PREDATOR P3 - Should You Own One ?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2022
- I am lucky enough to own a number of high quality pool cues. But this P3 is the one I would take to WAR, each and every time. This video talks about why.
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I bought a P3 4 or 5 months ago and I'm very glad I did. Switching to a CF shaft (Revo) was a bit of a change, but it just *feels* great when you make contact with the cue ball.
Hey, Brian, just wanted to let you know that your honest review had a part in me opting for the P3 Cobalt Racer with Revo 12.4, which I've ordered and am expecting in a couple of days. I had a P2 some 6 years ago and I feel it was one of the best hitting cues I've ever had, so I have high hopes for this P3. Keep up the good work!
Nice review Brian, thanks for sharing your thoughts. As someone who has been thinking about buying the 'P3' it has been helpful to hear some feedback from an experienced pool player who knows what he is talking about and who has put the product through its paces. I think you have helped me decide which cue I am going to purchase when I upgrade my equipment over the next few months.
I've noticed that Predator 'Ikon' cues are more expensive than their 'P3' range, but the only real difference (so I'm led to believe) is that the 'P3' is your no nonsense, pure performance cue, whereas the 'Ikon' is basically just a 'blinged up' version of the 'P3'. I have been looking at upgrading my existing mid price range cue to a 'forever cue' and have narrowed down my choice to either a Predator 'P3' or 'Ikon'. I initially had my eyes set on an 'Ikon', but after doing a bit of research and reading/watching various reviews of the two cues, there is little difference between them other than the 'bling' and the not insignificant $300-$500 price difference! 😬. Personally, I am not someone who is overly fussed about bling or fancy wooden inlays, and I am certainly not willing to pay that kinda money for something which is essentially the same as a cue which costs $300-$500 less!. I have been saving up for 8 months, and if I go with the 'P3' I will have the cue and be playing with it before Christmas, whereas, if I hold out for the 'Ikon', I wouldn't have it in my hands until around late February/early March 2023, so all things considered the 'P3' definitely looks like the cue for me! 🙂🎱🎱🎱.
The picture i sent you of my pool table the cue was a p3 revo. Thanks so much again for finding me someone to redo my table.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
Nice cue and beautiful new table 🤩
Before P3 I thought I knew what feel, feedback and performance feels like. I didn’t. It’s such an amazing cue❤
Thanks for sharing Brian appreciate it
Love, love love my Ikon3! I love Predator although I'm having a bit of an issue with their Customer Service... but that's another story!
Thanks for the video Brian I have a predator P3 curly maple with the revo 12.9 with a tiger sniper tip. And couldn't be more pleased with it.
Very nice! You beat me to the P3 by a few months. But I am diggin it!
Oh yea Brian. I have the racer p3 cobalt. With cf shaft. I took the weight bolt out and I get stupid control.
I have been using one since August. Love mine.
Thanks for watching Tom. Please subscribe and let me know if there is anything you would like to see on the channel.
I recently picked up one with a radial pin. It is so good. It will be my player for a while.
Congratulations on the new cue. And thanks for watching.
I get mine Friday!!
Thought that was the p3 you were using, funny story, I had a 50.00 cue that I really liked, it was all black( probably metal shaft)any way after 40 or so years of shooting pool I thought I’m gonna treat myself( I’m 74) , I searched the internet, looked at Lucaszi, to fancy, wanted that all black look, found the P3, liked the idea of all the technology involved, ordered one, got the ( revo) 11.? Shaft, I was really impressed with the way it was packaged, they sent it in its own black cloth sleeve, it feels alive in my hand, my favorite cue!!!it is elegant, the silver tiger on the but is beautiful, I also found you on the internet, love the way you go over things, calm voice, it shoots better on the 9’ tables, by the way. Several of the guys have asked about the cue. Have a question, did you keep the “tiger” tip?
We'd say they're pretty great! Nice shirt btw!
What's the update on this cue? How are you liking it? I'm thinking about getting one.
Definitely on my want list for the future... Was definitely thinking about getting a carbon shaft for either my McDermott or Viking. Any advice on that?
I don't know enough about McDermott or Viking to make an intelligent recommendation but I would fit the shaft with the highest quality cue butt you have, so that you get the full benefit of the shafts capabilities.
Looks like you got a new table too it looks nice. Keep up the awesome content.
Yes! Thank you!
@@FXBilliardsis it a 9 foot olhausen?
Hi, Brian. This is a very good video. Can I ask is there any other differences than color between limited edition(grey or other color) and this pure black one?Thanks
It’s just about color there’s no technological differences.
Nice new table!
Thanks! 😊 I'm lovin it!
How would you compare the P3 vs the Sport 2 cues?
I'm looking into getting a sport 2 because the price point is roughly 300 less than the P3 (both with a revo shaft).
The P3 cost more for a simple reason. It is a better cue. I own both and if I was going to war, I would take the P3. It's not pretty, but it's good. It should also hold value pretty well. I hope this helps.
Looks like you got a new table. Hope you are enjoying it.
Yes I am- thank you very much
Do you notice a difference between the P-30 butt construction and the C4+ butt technology in the Ikon? im debating on the 9k1 which is about $200-300 cheaper than the standard p3.
I think you only notice the different is you have been playing with one or the other for a very long time. I have used a Blak and Ikon for maybe 12 years or more so I can tell.
I cant wait to use this P3 with the Tiger Fortis 12mm Carbon Fiber shaft. Best CF shaft on the market in my opinion.
Good choice!
I was using a P3 and switched to a SP2 a few months ago just because one came out with a nice blue color that I liked. And because the P3 I have, although it was blue (cobalt blue racer, something like that it was called) I could only find it without a wrap and I prefer with a wrap. And I have to say, although as a poor amateur player (APA -3 or something 😅) I can’t notice a difference in “how it feels”, there is a BIG audible difference. The SP2 has a high pitch “thump” to it that really bothers me. Initially I thought that maybe I somehow got a cracked shaft (although I don’t think it’s possible with carbon fiber) or that maybe it’s the tip (I have different tips between them), but when I switched the shafts (both Revo, 12.4, one with a kamui clear black medium and one with a Victory Soft), it was still the SP2 that made the noise. So I’ve kept searching for P3s with a wrap and a nice blue color, but they’re extremely rare it seems. I’ve just ended up ordering a nice green P3 just now (called “Predator P3 Nova”. With a wrap, of course. It would have been great if it was with blue instead of the green, but maybe it will grow on me. And got to your video again looking for P3 reviews 😁
Sadly, I can’t find any direct P3 vs SP2 reviews/comparisons. And also most videos I find are really really old, like 3+ years.
Anyway, your video gives me more peace of mind now, that I made the right choice in the end, and will stick with the P3. Until a beautiful blue one comes out, but still has to be P3. Will probably sell my old P3 without a wrap, as well as my SP2
Hey Brian, would you consider the predator/revo line a more advanced player cue? Currently using meucci LD & a lucasi LD. Looking forward to contacting you for zoom lessons shortly, thx for your time and effort!
Anyone at any level can benefit from a Revo. But you should stay within your budget. The better you get the more benefits you get out of the shaft. And it should last a very long time as well as holding it's value much better than some other shafts.
@@FXBilliards thx B. I’m fortunate to be able to afford most any equipment, just didn’t want to bite off more than I can chew. Or in golf terms, giving a set of tour blades to a intermediate player! Not sure if you were ever a golfer. I’m going to go ahead and order the 12.4 shaft with my lucasi but. Thx for your time. I will be in touch for zoom lessons
Started out last year with a cheapie Viking Valhalla cue, put a 314-3 shaft on it n loved the difference.
Now, I wanted the full on Predator experience...
my Grey curly maple P3 is on the way with a Revo 12.4 WVP.
YOLO, baby
Follow up: That P3 is AMAZING 👏 so smooth n accurate. I can actually get a closed bridge on my draw shots with the 12.4 with my sausage fingers! Very little transition from my 314-3 but feels totally different...glad I bought the whole cue n not just the shaft. Big difference. Thnx Bryan
@@glockasauruswrex6362 Did you ever try the 12.4 Revo on your custom cue before going to the full P3 + Revo 12.4 setup? I got to demo a P3 with a Revo shaft and loved it and felt comfortable right away shooting with english across a 9 foot Rasson. Definitely got way more accurate than my cheap solid maple shaft and I could live with the hollower "pingy" sound of the CF to get better accuracy.
@@b4ssfunk3d nah i loved the 314-3 shaft n figured the Revo would be bomb...n it is! Been shooting with it over a year now n it's my cue for life!
I have a 1st edition predator with original shaft. Since bought a z shaft in '05 or '04? Lately I've been looking at carbon fiber shafts & bought a 314 /2. Seems to hit more solid...still working with it. Any help would be appreciated! I enjoy you sharing. Thanks
If nothing else, the CF shaft is going to last a very long time. So rather than investing in more 314s I would hold out for a Revo.
Thank you. I'll see what I can do with this CF I have now.
Great cue! I've had the black wrap P3 for about a year now and have no desire to test other cues.
You might be playing with the best cue currently made. Have a great day Steve and thanks for watching.
I tried one and immediately got comfortable with it in 5 minutes with the 12.4 Revo shaft. I was shooting more accurately and felt no vibration or buzzing in the butt when making solid shots. That being said, I feel like I was feeling the difference in the shaft more than the actual cue itself, I play with a cheap solid maple shaft that isn't a low deflection shaft and felt like long shots across the table were a lot easier to make with less deflection of the carbon fiber shaft. I'm saving money up for a Revo 12.4 to get a slight performance edge on my game
I love my BK RUSH but I shoot with a custom cue , the SP2 has caught my eye though, just something about that blue
I have a SP2 and it's pretty nice. The rubber grip feels good and it feels more "sporty"
How much difference is there really compared to a cheap butt with the revo shaft? I always thought the shaft makes the difference.
I don’t think beginner players will notice the difference but as you get better you can feel the quality in everything that is involved in a cue, from the grip to the tip. it’s like anything else- a soccer mom who drives her kids to school every morning doesn’t appreciate the performance in a BMW M3. But you are right in that I would rather have a cheap but and great shaft than an expensive Cue and a cheap shaft.
Looks like you have a new table too!
Yes Ronnie. And I am diggin it. I got it three weeks ago but most of my videos are delayed before I release them on YT.
Off topic to the video, how do you think the predator felt compares to the simonis? Thanks
I think the Predator Cloth is faster than Simonis 860 - But it is also brand new so that might change over time. I do like it and I will let you know how well it holds up over time. In full disclosure, they provide me with cloth. But I do love it. So far it is the best I have every owned.
Looking for a grey one!
Hey Brian, can you compare Predator grip technologies like C4+, P3 30-piece, and True Splice (or all the Predator grip technologies available)... in terms of playability and feel of the shot? Is there a difference between this technology between Predator stick lines since they don't all have the same price? If the price is under $1500, which cue has the best playing feel (paired with the Revo 12.4)? I don't care too much about the appearance of the cue, I only care about the quality of the shot and the solid, durable feel. Thanks for reading my comment.
Cutting to the chase, I would get a predator P3 with a Revo shaft. The absolute best technology for the price, and it will hold its value, unlike some of the less expensive shafts.
I asked Predator what was the best pin and they said the Radial Pin but he P3 is Uni-Lock which I’m not a fan of. What’s your take on the Radial Pin?
The Radial might actually be better BUT I own 6 Predator cues and I am not going to use anything that I can not move around from cue to cue. All 6 are Uni-Lock. BTW, I really like Uni-Lock and have been using it for 15 years. And it also fits my "somewhat less expensive" Lucasi cues perfectly. I have 4 of those as well. Zero chance of me going to Radial and giving up all of that versatility.
Hi Brian, I am coming back to the game after a many year hiatus. I have never played a LD anything and my current cue is a custom with standard shaft. I am just starting to get my game back and was thinking of getting a Predator cue. Have yet to find a P3,, but was thinking of a Roadline cue. Do you think I am better off with something like a 314 shaft or going all in and seeing if I can find one with a Revo shaft. All of the Predator cues in my price range are scarce. Your input would be appreciated.
I really enjoy your videos and value your opinions.
Since I’ve started using carbon, fiber shafts, I can’t imagine going back to wood But I would probably buy at 314 before I would buy one of the cheap brand carbon fiber shafts. And the Revo shaft with a broomstick at the end is still going to cost you over $400 used. It might be a good idea to start out with a 314 that will fit your custom cue.
@@FXBilliards thanks for the response Brian.
I cannot find this cue anywhere? Do you know who carries it? Preferably with a leather wrap. Thanks Bryan!
Predatorcues.com. If they don’t have it, it may not be in stock anywhere.
beauitful stick
Hi Brian, whats more important the shaft or cue?
Think of the shaft as tires on Porsche. A $100k car with $50 tires runs like a $10k car. The Shaft is the key, but a solid base is going to make the shaft play up to it's full potential. The feedback you get from a shot is often the result of the Cue and not the shaft, so your "feel" for the shot is better with a quality cue. Thanks for watching Dave.
Should I get this over the 9k2? Also what is the length of the cue stick? Seems a bit short.
These cues are all a standard 58 inches unless you buy a 30'' shaft which is rare. Predator does not make any short cues. I think you should invest in the best cue you can afford and that you like. A good cue will last a lifetime. And the higher performance cues like the P3 will hold value longer (as has been proven over the last 15 years.)
Thanks for replying, I ended up getting the P3 and should be delivered today!👍
What's your opinion on the z-3 shaft?
Great Shaft. I do better with a thicker shaft and the Z is thinner but it is an amazing shaft.
New table, whata beaut 👊👏
Thanks.
I’ve been using a predator sp2 lanzo I think it’s called but I just purchased the predator p3 becote. Never shot with the p3 so I’m hope it’s equal if not better than the sp2
Sport two is good P3 is even better.
@@FXBilliards it’s supposed to come tomorrow I’m pretty excited about it
Thanks for sharing B. And when you mentioned going to war or the BBQ wouldn't you rather have the REVO shaft on the P3 instead of it's original. I know you don't got time to answer all of your comments. But hopefully you can mention something about it in your next video. Thanks alot B. for you time, content, and abundance of free knowledge you are a Really good educator/teacher and entertainer thanks for doing what you do on RUclips very Glad there's a person like you
I prefer the Revo shaft on anything ,at any time. I’m thinking these days most P3 are sold with a Revo shaft. I think the person that would get a P3 either wants or already owns a Revo.
Hey I got the same cue, it’s amazing!!!
Nice. It is a great cue. I waited years but I'm glad I got one. Thanks for watching.
@@FXBilliards i got lucky at an auction and got it with a 3143 shaft and a Mezz WX900 and an extension. All brand new! At the time I didn’t really know much about the cue but since I’ve got it it’s really a game changer, upgraded to the revo 12.4 and never looked back. I changed the predator too a Kamui tan clear and I’m loving it! Thanks for the reply as well!
Just purchased a brand new predator 9K2
Congratulations on the new cue - As a pool player, the feeling of having a new cue is pretty cool. And you got a good one there. Thanks for watching.
Which ikon was it that was 3 times cheaper than P3😂. I can’t find anything like that these days.
My ikons were bought over 15 years ago. They cost about three times as much today but they’re also a lot more intricate today and the aesthetics are nicer.
Is that a new table? Looks bigger and a different color?
Yes Sharky. Olhausen 9 foot table with 4 1/2" pockets. The cloth is Predator's Arcadia Reserve Tournament Blue Pool Table Cloth. Thanks for watching.
Mine comes in on monday, i didnt get the wrap tho
Nice !!!
314 -3 what’s the best tip soft ?
BEST is a matter of taste. I like Victory Soft and Kamui Black Soft. Those are really the only two I use.
I 've had the red stripe P3 for about 3 years. Yes, it's the ugliest cue I own, but damn, does it play well.
I have one. With a super soft tip. Feels really heavy to me without any weight in it. I over hit a lot of shots with it. any suggestions?
If the cue feels heavy without any weights in it you’re gonna have a problem because it’s hard to find a cue any lighter than 17oz. Over hitting a ball is not usually a result of cue weight, but of stroke.
Practice your control more. I was over hitting when my cue was 18oz so I made it 21oz and drilled on control like a mad man and now I’m locked in on the 21oz. SVB plays with a 24oz cue and look at what he can do with it.
Have you used 9k-1?
No I have not.
What tip do you use on this cue? 🤙
kamui soft and victory soft.
I want the Ikon 4-4
Nice cue, I have an Ikon 2- and a 4-3 and would love a 4-5 but they seem to be out of stock.
What's your favourite game in pool Bryan?
Straight Pool and 8 Ball.
You have changed to a 9 foot table!!
Yes, I have had it for three weeks but my videos are often "stacked up" weeks in advance. That's why you are just seeing it.
@@FXBilliards That's a sharp looking table for sure! How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking? I have an 8ft Olhausen myself and had the pockets tightened up. It's a great table!
Why are you talking about your p3 and not your new table?!?!
LOL. I have had the new table for three week. I usually will not endorse something until I have at least 100 hours with it. BUT, I love the new table. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments and support of the channel.