Turkey does not need to someone who uses bad words against Turkey. I know she seems nice but I live in Turkey and we do not like her in our country. Not because she is feminist. Because she uses wrong informations...
Elif is one of the first collaborates of the Islamic government in Turkey, with her other liberal friends. She had the role of to bash out the criticisms from the seculars against the new Islamic government. Then, when the Islamic government needed her no further, she fled to the UK. Now, the Turkish seculars suffer under the Islamic government, and she enjoys London.
She newer lives in Turkey. She doesn't know about Turkey at all. Like she blames turkey and Pakistan only. She doesn't talk about other world problem...
Thoroughly impressed with her. India also needs someone like her talking some sense into opposing political tribes which are creating chaos through damaging rhetoric.
I live in the UK and wish for the same over a nice cup of tea ! Elif always makes one think even if we don 't always agree with everything she says .She gives pause for thought .
Elif Şafak'ın bu kadar iyi İngilizce konuştuğunu bilmiyordum. Harbiden teklemeden konuşuyor helal olsun. Tabii ki anlattıkları her zaman ilgi çekici, dinlemeye değer. Ozellikle 15:40 civari din hakkinda dedikleri cok basit, ama cok da dogru seyler kanaatimce.
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage They must be the worst teachers because Im answering the original post, not yours! Fix your lopsided brain before you harrass me with your stupidity again.
I'm originally from Turkey 30 years living in London ( nearly all my life) I went to Turkey last year and I realise how much I don't belong there mentally and after brexit I realised I don't belong to UK physically
@@pewienkurczak4581 I don't ned applie for residency I am rich I can buy any citizenship in the world is nothing to do with citizenship what I was trying to say is even in uk they look at you and they judge you for your ethnicity without knowing you
summerian anunnaki That’s a normal feeling. You’re not English, you’re turkish with adopted english mentality, of course you’re not going to be neither here nor there, you decided to be neither.
I am a great fan of her work. She is a motivation for the migrants in UK who have well established themselves in a western society without being cut from their native land.
Is there a chance for a talk between Elif Shafak and Jordan Peterson? If anyone who reads this has a chance of initiating such a conversation... I'm begging you to try!
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Yup... But I wrote that 5 years ago. At that point he still seemed intellectually humble. And so the idea of an intellectual discussion between people with different views seemed interesting.
I watched this, I had not heard of Erif before and I'm very glad to have found out about her. Something I would like the feminist movement to consider [please think before hitting me with a missile comment and binning it off] that the language we use in association with human rights and also toxic behaviour is rooted in words with an association to gender "feminism", "masculinity", "patriarchy" etc. It is my feeling that it is no wonder people exclude themselves from the principles these words define as they cannot identify with even on the simplest terms. I also think it is derogatory to tell people they are stupid because they don't identify with use of language in the same way we might because we have consumed media, literature from certain sources. It is a hard nut to crack. I looked the Universal declaration of Human Rights and was dismayed to see the word "brotherhood" used in Article 1. However, "human rights" and "equality" are genderless terms and I feel strongly that they should be used more often when describing these issues. Perhaps someone on here can convince me otherwise and if you can, I'm all ears :) Going back to Erif's message on fiction. I really agree on empathy and seeing through others eyes, walking in others shoes etc. I saw she has written a book called "The Happiness of Blond People". I've not read it and I might. I would think if you are thinking of applying this to the UK I actually don't see blond people very often and quite often it is coloured with bleach. I wondered if maybe she means in Scandinavia where the majority are blond in some of the countries they have benefits system which looks after the needy more than in the UK as is my understanding. I understand what I have written here may seem critical in the most part, but I agree with a lot Erif principles, she is very eloquent and I think we need to see more people like her speaking about politics and the rights of minorities etc.
I hope Elif understands Democracy no longer exists in America. It has changed shape entirely so one cannot use that word now. Hence an Independent party gathering slowly and/or joining forces with the other side in more of a Coalition. Democracy can be death to us here in America if allowed to persist in its current form.
karim Tabrizi it's the "intellectuals" that tend to be out of touch with the average brit. It's the "intellectuals" that got us into this multi cultural mess by assuming they know what's best
I respect Safak as a writer. But a political activist? Name ONE thing she fought for. My grandma yelling at Erdogan on TV is more of an activist than she is.
I heard such a different interview than many commenters here, and I have been red-pilled for a long time. What I heard is getting away from globalization and back to the individual experience and background is essential to making us more sensitive and human. She is against using mass immigration and finds it dangerous. People need to step away from the internet and immerse themselves in individualized activities like reading and enter into more relational experiences. Maybe that's what triggered so many in the comment section... I am 4/5 of the way through and don't find support for the arguments mentioned here
This is insane interview and I enjoyed the way she explicitly illustrating her point of view. Though I didn’t agree with her, I have respect for her prospectives.
no. in Turkey, cutting head is never happened in recent centuries and no one asks for it. It is an arabic attitude. A few days ago, a syrian immigrant man in Turkey threatened someone to cut his head off in an interview and received a huge reaction on social media. He was subsequently arrested and deported.
If this is what you gathered from what she said for 44 minutes, good luck with your comprehension. Turkey cannot join EU now because the country it turned into, and some part of the reason for that transformation were the elites of Turkey and distrust of the west towards all Turks.
@@CanaryAlien I very much know about Turkey and have travelled to Istanbul - there are all kinds of people in Turkey - Islamic fanatics, moderates who side with fanatics and seculars who oppose both the silent moderates and Islamic fanatics. Ironically, Indian politics is similar, but we have to contend with two religions here instead of just one. So before you talk the language of politicians try to be a human, so that better politicians can emerge.
@@vbcool83 "try to be a human"... That's a very clever piece of advice, I'll try to be a human from now on. Thanks a lot. What is "ironic" about your comment about India?
There is something contradictory about the notion of cultural diversity and the notion that Turkey or anywhere else has lost it's heritage and identity. On the one had there is a lording of cultural identity and in the next breath a castigation of tribalism. If you identify as a group, you are identifying as a tribe. If you promote multi-culturalism you are promoting strife between tribes being thrust together when they have different imperatives. If you want to be a global citizen, then behave as an individual, identify as an individual, let go of tribalism and cultural identity. Us and them is a manifestation of group identity, we have a way to go before people transcend this level of consciousness, so the oppression of imposed multiculturalism will continue to ferment resentment. This is exploited by those who have imposed it, through divide and rule and then another imposed solution, through a co-opting of cultural expression by corporations, which sanitise and commodify them and sell them back to us, whilst building a global technocratic tyranny.
OFC nostalgia. It's SIMPLE, if Muslims are coming with their beliefs and tell us how to live be sure we will push back those beliefs. Let her go and tell this to the people in Turkey, lets see what they will tell her.
Between the Russian bots, fake accounts and the actual racist bigots, it's difficult to have a proper conversation on the topics raised. So many negative and false claims made. Which is the whole point for some. Without sharing understanding there will always be mistrust of the other.
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage Forgive me, my last response seems closed. Your original question before you changed the post was “why do you comment against you own best interest?” You raise a very good question, and one that goes to the heart of the multicultural debate. People on both sides of the debate believe they have the best interests of their country. From some that dislike immigration, I can see that new people coming in to the country with different cultures might be conceived as a threat. Perhaps they believe there will be less resources to go around as a result of more people, or that wages are being suppressed as people accept lower pay. All these concerns are reasonable and one might even say intuitive. But that’s only a feeling. You have to look at the evidence before you can conclude the truth of these feelings. In terms of financial stability, in today’s world the large economies have the most weight and bargaining power for preferential trade deals. The USA, EU and China are the largest. After that, India, Japan, Brazil Russia and Indonesia. All of these trading entities have access to large populations. In terms of culture, most people don’t uproot their livelihoods to move to another country if they don’t think that country is a place they would like to live and work. Studies have been done that show immigrants contribute proportionally more to the economy than domestic workers. The countries with the highest immigration are often the ones with many job vacancies. The idea that immigrants are on the whole taking domestic workers jobs is not borne out by the evidence. In terms of cultural threats, I agree that low education, ultra conservative ideologies do not by nature integrate well in to host countries, but it does happen. I my view, this remains the greatest challenge to harmony within a multicultural society. But it takes all cultures to look for mutual understanding before any level of societal integration can happen.
With regards to the Brexit vote, there was a very good reason in the UK why UK citizens in the regions of highest immigration were more likely to vote in favour of staying in the EU. It’s because they know many immigrants and call them friends, colleagues, nurse, doctor, teacher and pupil (education forms a massive part of the immigration numbers in the UK). The more people know and understand their fellow person, the less threat they become. Other than one or two areas in the UK, the highest leave voting areas had a tiny proportion of immigrants. Of course these people will be more likely to distrust people they haven’t met. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP) www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-workers-uk-tax-treasury-brexit-migrants-british-citizens-a8542506.html www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/timeseries/jp9z/unem migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/ theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-areas-with-low-immigration-voted-mainly-for-brexit-62138 migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/where-do-migrants-live-in-the-uk/
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it. There are many reasons why people wish to live in other countries. The term “migrant/immigrant” covers so many different types of people and personal circumstances. Some migrants move for economic reasons, some for work experience, others for cultural reasons, some for education and research, some to avoid oppression and others for love. I think it’s also important to separate Illegal economic migrants and genuine asylum seekers. Illegal economic migrants should be returned to their country of origin as there will be no protections for them in a different country. Genuine asylum seekers need support. Personally, I wouldn’t say people always abandon their birth countries or think that they are so bad. I know someone that came to the UK for love and left behind a country they feel passionately for. Some people have no intention of staying in a host country, like the majority of foreign students or contract professionals. Depending on the individual circumstances, there are many reasons why individuals who emigrate choose to return to their birth countries. A recent example would be the expanding Polish economy and their efforts to court Poles in the UK to return to Poland. I can understand how someone might feel they belong to more than one place. If you were to spend time in another country that you liked and felt comfortable in, I’m sure you would naturally start to feel attached to the place and the people. I think it’s the highest complement to come from one culture and choose to spend part of one’s life living and working in another. As long as it’s done in a respectful way. www.ft.com/content/2329a046-ba6f-11e7-8c12-5661783e5589 www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/july2018revisedfrommaycoveringtheperiodtodecember2017
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Yet another feminist spouting the usual cliched statements like "The personal is the political." Try doing a man's job and see how personal your political ideology seems then!
When are Channel 4 going to give as much air-time to other deranged conspiracy theorists as they do feminists? Get a few dozen Scientologists on your headline interview shows in the next few months.
that feeling when you find people who think the same way you do ❤️
I love the way she talks, the way she thinks and the way she writes.
What an incredibly insightful woman.
I appear to have discovered her late but very glad to have done so.
I think I'm in love with this women
Same
Can’t blame ya
Get in line. Almost done with 40 Rules of Love myself and sent Three Daughters of Eve to my dear ex wife.
Speechless beauty with unique thoughts, emotions, and feelings.. I like her.
Turkey is very lucky to have such a writer. Sadly the country is not aware of it, like it is never aware of most of its wonders.
@@bankerbilbo7472 yürü be:)
Turkey needs her.
Turkey does not need to someone who uses bad words against Turkey.
I know she seems nice but I live in Turkey and we do not like her in our country. Not because she is feminist. Because she uses wrong informations...
Elif is one of the first collaborates of the Islamic government in Turkey, with her other liberal friends. She had the role of to bash out the criticisms from the seculars against the new Islamic government. Then, when the Islamic government needed her no further, she fled to the UK. Now, the Turkish seculars suffer under the Islamic government, and she enjoys London.
No, we don't. So shut up, if you lived in Turkey and were Turkish , you would not like her.
@@norell791 What I Meant Is 'We Dont Need Her To Come and Lecture Us'. She Ran away from Turkey because of Islam.
She newer lives in Turkey. She doesn't know about Turkey at all. Like she blames turkey and Pakistan only. She doesn't talk about other world problem...
This woman's words are just pure fresh air
Thoroughly impressed with her. India also needs someone like her talking some sense into opposing political tribes which are creating chaos through damaging rhetoric.
Excellent Brave woman storyteller with feminist eyes of the future living in the present times. Merci bien🍀
She supported Erdoğan until last years, for her populism.
@@zingardoh1 she is the opposite of Erdogan
@@zingardoh1 She is so so eloquent , what a precious person is she for our world :)))
I love her , l live in Turkey and l wish I can find people like her here and talk all day in a cafe while drinking Türk kahvesi 😊
I live in the UK and wish for the same over a nice cup of tea ! Elif always makes one think even if we don 't always agree with everything she says .She gives pause for thought .
Intelligent and wise woman.
Elif Şafak'ın bu kadar iyi İngilizce konuştuğunu bilmiyordum. Harbiden teklemeden konuşuyor helal olsun. Tabii ki anlattıkları her zaman ilgi çekici, dinlemeye değer. Ozellikle 15:40 civari din hakkinda dedikleri cok basit, ama cok da dogru seyler kanaatimce.
To all those patriotics out there, who attacking her, please educate yourself about your own country ( Britain ) before you embrace patriotism.
Yeah, because hating your country is so much cooler! She needs a little more education and you need to relearn British history it seems..
@UC898RRLwdySf8M9LvHq6MFw im answering the original post.. your question is rhetorical unless you're an absolute trogg-brained idiot?
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage I think you've got brain problems.
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage They must be the worst teachers because Im answering the original post, not yours! Fix your lopsided brain before you harrass me with your stupidity again.
Patriotism should be about the welfare of people, not about flag waving and xenophobia, imo.
I'm originally from Turkey 30 years living in London ( nearly all my life) I went to Turkey last year and I realise how much I don't belong there mentally and after brexit I realised I don't belong to UK physically
@@pewienkurczak4581 I don't ned applie for residency I am rich I can buy any citizenship in the world is nothing to do with citizenship what I was trying to say is even in uk they look at you and they judge you for your ethnicity without knowing you
summerian anunnaki That’s a normal feeling. You’re not English, you’re turkish with adopted english mentality, of course you’re not going to be neither here nor there, you decided to be neither.
You are in "Araf".
Intelligent people don't belong anywhere the populist Right gets a foot hold.
If only leaders of the world thought like her, it would be a better place. ♥️
I am a great fan of her work. She is a motivation for the migrants in UK who have well established themselves in a western society without being cut from their native land.
Is there a chance for a talk between Elif Shafak and Jordan Peterson? If anyone who reads this has a chance of initiating such a conversation... I'm begging you to try!
My goodness just the idea of what that conversation would entail is intellectually orgasmic!
Why? Peterson is a grifter who narcissistically pretends to know more than he does. Shafak shows a willingness to learn.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Yup... But I wrote that 5 years ago. At that point he still seemed intellectually humble. And so the idea of an intellectual discussion between people with different views seemed interesting.
Not only Türkiye but the world needs women like her. Grateful to see that women like Elif Shafak do exist!
I watched this, I had not heard of Erif before and I'm very glad to have found out about her. Something I would like the feminist movement to consider [please think before hitting me with a missile comment and binning it off] that the language we use in association with human rights and also toxic behaviour is rooted in words with an association to gender "feminism", "masculinity", "patriarchy" etc. It is my feeling that it is no wonder people exclude themselves from the principles these words define as they cannot identify with even on the simplest terms. I also think it is derogatory to tell people they are stupid because they don't identify with use of language in the same way we might because we have consumed media, literature from certain sources. It is a hard nut to crack. I looked the Universal declaration of Human Rights and was dismayed to see the word "brotherhood" used in Article 1. However, "human rights" and "equality" are genderless terms and I feel strongly that they should be used more often when describing these issues. Perhaps someone on here can convince me otherwise and if you can, I'm all ears :) Going back to Erif's message on fiction. I really agree on empathy and seeing through others eyes, walking in others shoes etc. I saw she has written a book called "The Happiness of Blond People". I've not read it and I might. I would think if you are thinking of applying this to the UK I actually don't see blond people very often and quite often it is coloured with bleach. I wondered if maybe she means in Scandinavia where the majority are blond in some of the countries they have benefits system which looks after the needy more than in the UK as is my understanding. I understand what I have written here may seem critical in the most part, but I agree with a lot Erif principles, she is very eloquent and I think we need to see more people like her speaking about politics and the rights of minorities etc.
Liking what Elif says about artists/writers not identifying as tribal. Thought-provoking interview all round. Thanks.
I hope Elif understands Democracy no longer exists in America. It has changed shape entirely so one cannot use that word now. Hence an Independent party gathering slowly and/or joining forces with the other side in more of a Coalition. Democracy can be death to us here in America if allowed to persist in its current form.
Too intelligent and subtle to be understood by the main stream of nowBritain.
Couldn't agree more I shouldn't be surprised by the number of dislikes.
Love her so much, such a beautiful feminine woman, at the same time a great thinker
wonderful thinker, thank you 👏
I wonder if she lives in a community forced into multiculturalism?
A lot of the working class do and they disagree with her profoundly.
who made you the voice of the people, sod off
And also I would say most working class do agree with her.
Pat H oh the irony 😂
She's a classy lady and intellectual. Perhaps you should stick to page 3
karim Tabrizi it's the "intellectuals" that tend to be out of touch with the average brit.
It's the "intellectuals" that got us into this multi cultural mess by assuming they know what's best
Her books are fun to read
Fun ?
Saatlerce dinleyebilir
I personally think it is incredible as the people could not change their smaller defect but wanna change a whole world
I respect Safak as a writer. But a political activist? Name ONE thing she fought for. My grandma yelling at Erdogan on TV is more of an activist than she is.
I wish she would publish her very early stories and novels she wrote as a kid and a teenager
Wonderful conversation! No "us vs them" there is only "us" on this only known habitable plant in space.
I think what she says about forgetting history and tribalism is spot on. It's tribalism that got Europe in to two world wars.
@@Gggbvcx ahh there it is we can always rely on racism when you're stuck for something intelligent to say. Got anything a bit more original mate?
Love it x
I heard such a different interview than many commenters here, and I have been red-pilled for a long time. What I heard is getting away from globalization and back to the individual experience and background is essential to making us more sensitive and human. She is against using mass immigration and finds it dangerous. People need to step away from the internet and immerse themselves in individualized activities like reading and enter into more relational experiences. Maybe that's what triggered so many in the comment section... I am 4/5 of the way through and don't find support for the arguments mentioned here
Great interview. Impressive and inspiring guest.
This is insane interview and I enjoyed the way she explicitly illustrating her point of view. Though I didn’t agree with her, I have respect for her prospectives.
amazing human being :))) Thank you for your contribution
Ah! No Tribe! Thank you.
Like Ms Shafak, I have the same two citizenships as her.
The amount of contradiction I find in this interview is astonishing.
Stunning
This woman has a better grasp and command of the English language than the Rightwing Snowflakes who cry about Multiculturalism 😂🤣
Perhaps because many teachers are spending their time focusing on kids arriving without any English
I love Eliffffffff
Artist always have the support of God! Loved the interview 🎨❤️
شي مغربي هنا لايك.
All races are mixture of many races, all languages are drawn from many languages, all religions are borrowed from many religions.
'The answer is asking questions..' is that profound? No. Thats what children do, how about try researching and formulating your own opinion??
Oh my god she's trying to GET PEOPLE TO THINK AND NOT "ASK GOOGLE/ SIRI/ALEXA"
@@BilloRaniJi asking Siri questions is all you need in life!
I guess that's what she said. Just that while forming opinions, one should strive to stay away from Twitter hashtags and politicians.
Bell hooks and Elif Shafak
Well she is lovely and idealistic! Unfortunately there are people, not far from Turkey, who would cut her head off for that!
no. in Turkey, cutting head is never happened in recent centuries and no one asks for it. It is an arabic attitude. A few days ago, a syrian immigrant man in Turkey threatened someone to cut his head off in an interview and received a huge reaction on social media. He was subsequently arrested and deported.
keykey Good on Turkey.
@@louptrjack7354 you know Turkey wrong
@@norell791 ne anlatıyosun ablacım sen?
Turkey 🇹🇷
An inspiration!
She wants Turkey to join the EU?
obviously
If this is what you gathered from what she said for 44 minutes, good luck with your comprehension. Turkey cannot join EU now because the country it turned into, and some part of the reason for that transformation were the elites of Turkey and distrust of the west towards all Turks.
@@vbcool83 if that's all you know about Turkey, good luck with your life!
@@CanaryAlien I very much know about Turkey and have travelled to Istanbul - there are all kinds of people in Turkey - Islamic fanatics, moderates who side with fanatics and seculars who oppose both the silent moderates and Islamic fanatics. Ironically, Indian politics is similar, but we have to contend with two religions here instead of just one.
So before you talk the language of politicians try to be a human, so that better politicians can emerge.
@@vbcool83 "try to be a human"... That's a very clever piece of advice, I'll try to be a human from now on. Thanks a lot.
What is "ironic" about your comment about India?
Gives a long answer about her feminism and sisterhood, but then immediately says she doesn't beleive in collectivistic identities. Contradiction?
Christian Moore Are you saying men and women are one and the same? Gender is an identity?
@@Selenite11 Men and women are similar in some ways and different in others. Gender is a form of identity, yes. Any other inane questions?
CDM 1 It took you a year to respond and even now you don’t answer. Why bother? Oh, please don’t reply.
Caution- Comments are going to be disabled.
Are we keeping the likes even or what?
There is something contradictory about the notion of cultural diversity and the notion that Turkey or anywhere else has lost it's heritage and identity. On the one had there is a lording of cultural identity and in the next breath a castigation of tribalism. If you identify as a group, you are identifying as a tribe. If you promote multi-culturalism you are promoting strife between tribes being thrust together when they have different imperatives. If you want to be a global citizen, then behave as an individual, identify as an individual, let go of tribalism and cultural identity. Us and them is a manifestation of group identity, we have a way to go before people transcend this level of consciousness, so the oppression of imposed multiculturalism will continue to ferment resentment. This is exploited by those who have imposed it, through divide and rule and then another imposed solution, through a co-opting of cultural expression by corporations, which sanitise and commodify them and sell them back to us, whilst building a global technocratic tyranny.
OFC nostalgia. It's SIMPLE, if Muslims are coming with their beliefs and tell us how to live be sure we will push back those beliefs. Let her go and tell this to the people in Turkey, lets see what they will tell her.
She is nothing like turkish women.She is intelligent.And open minded.
I am Turkish and intelligent.Most of us are intelligent.But you are stupid to write such a comment
Against the “us and them” of religion and then clearly outlines the faith systems she looks down upon as less enlightened 🥱 Nothing new under the sun
In summary; there are exceptions to every well established, observable pattern. So let's ignore the pattern.
Diversity usually leads to ghettos in capitalist countries. Elif has done well so would be able to avoid these poorer, crime-riddled areas.
Wise woman
Between the Russian bots, fake accounts and the actual racist bigots, it's difficult to have a proper conversation on the topics raised. So many negative and false claims made. Which is the whole point for some.
Without sharing understanding there will always be mistrust of the other.
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage Forgive me, my last response seems closed. Your original question before you changed the post was “why do you comment against you own best interest?” You raise a very good question, and one that goes to the heart of the multicultural debate.
People on both sides of the debate believe they have the best interests of their country. From some that dislike immigration, I can see that new people coming in to the country with different cultures might be conceived as a threat. Perhaps they believe there will be less resources to go around as a result of more people, or that wages are being suppressed as people accept lower pay. All these concerns are reasonable and one might even say intuitive. But that’s only a feeling. You have to look at the evidence before you can conclude the truth of these feelings.
In terms of financial stability, in today’s world the large economies have the most weight and bargaining power for preferential trade deals. The USA, EU and China are the largest. After that, India, Japan, Brazil Russia and Indonesia. All of these trading entities have access to large populations.
In terms of culture, most people don’t uproot their livelihoods to move to another country if they don’t think that country is a place they would like to live and work. Studies have been done that show immigrants contribute proportionally more to the economy than domestic workers. The countries with the highest immigration are often the ones with many job vacancies. The idea that immigrants are on the whole taking domestic workers jobs is not borne out by the evidence.
In terms of cultural threats, I agree that low education, ultra conservative ideologies do not by nature integrate well in to host countries, but it does happen. I my view, this remains the greatest challenge to harmony within a multicultural society. But it takes all cultures to look for mutual understanding before any level of societal integration can happen.
With regards to the Brexit vote, there was a very good reason in the UK why UK citizens in the regions of highest immigration were more likely to vote in favour of staying in the EU. It’s because they know many immigrants and call them friends, colleagues, nurse, doctor, teacher and pupil (education forms a massive part of the immigration numbers in the UK). The more people know and understand their fellow person, the less threat they become. Other than one or two areas in the UK, the highest leave voting areas had a tiny proportion of immigrants. Of course these people will be more likely to distrust people they haven’t met.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-workers-uk-tax-treasury-brexit-migrants-british-citizens-a8542506.html
www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/timeseries/jp9z/unem
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/
theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-areas-with-low-immigration-voted-mainly-for-brexit-62138
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/where-do-migrants-live-in-the-uk/
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
There are many reasons why people wish to live in other countries. The term “migrant/immigrant” covers so many different types of people and personal circumstances. Some migrants move for economic reasons, some for work experience, others for cultural reasons, some for education and research, some to avoid oppression and others for love. I think it’s also important to separate Illegal economic migrants and genuine asylum seekers. Illegal economic migrants should be returned to their country of origin as there will be no protections for them in a different country. Genuine asylum seekers need support.
Personally, I wouldn’t say people always abandon their birth countries or think that they are so bad. I know someone that came to the UK for love and left behind a country they feel passionately for. Some people have no intention of staying in a host country, like the majority of foreign students or contract professionals. Depending on the individual circumstances, there are many reasons why individuals who emigrate choose to return to their birth countries. A recent example would be the expanding Polish economy and their efforts to court Poles in the UK to return to Poland.
I can understand how someone might feel they belong to more than one place. If you were to spend time in another country that you liked and felt comfortable in, I’m sure you would naturally start to feel attached to the place and the people. I think it’s the highest complement to come from one culture and choose to spend part of one’s life living and working in another. As long as it’s done in a respectful way.
www.ft.com/content/2329a046-ba6f-11e7-8c12-5661783e5589
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/july2018revisedfrommaycoveringtheperiodtodecember2017
@my playlist shows why men are rejecting marriage Well now you've just become a troll. Shame.
Apperently ,she supported Erdoğan.I like her.She was wrong about Erdoğan then.
That is why the Japanese nation has existed before Jesus Christ was born...
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wow ! great
I Do The Right Thing i believe i win
Transparent beautiful woman....
The very tired bourgeois Elif Safak , multiculturalism is dead long live nationalism
This is what happens when two fertile minds interact - I listened mesmerised and I could go on listening on on and on.
I'm in love with you Ma'am.
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Turkey bahot uchal Raha Britain kea support sea
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Ūetta er mjög gott Viðtal og ræða. Ég vil líka því lengur viðtal - það er mjög upplýsandi
Yet another feminist spouting the usual cliched statements like "The personal is the political."
Try doing a man's job and see how personal your political ideology seems then!
julian bishop It triggered you when she said ‘feminist’ didn’t it? LOL
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When are Channel 4 going to give as much air-time to other deranged conspiracy theorists as they do feminists? Get a few dozen Scientologists on your headline interview shows in the next few months.
Shafak off.
Keep reading and learning- but I think she's a real babe!