I remember watching this when I was younger and I loved the whole thing. Then I watched the real Broadway show and saw many differences. Then a while later, found this again on DVD and thought how rushed it was. Still love it just wish it would take its time
I really don’t like much about this version. There are some good ideas but the sidekicks and character development are quite awful. I do love the score though !
While people seem to be jumping on Mongkut for his actions we have to remember something: this Necklace isn’t just some babble that he drug out of a drawer to give to his son, this was a FAMILY HEIRLOOM, a symbol of the royal family passed down from generation. By giving it to his servant lover, Chulalakorn is basically saying (though certainly unintentionally) “our family, and by extension you, is not worth anything. He was unintentionally insulting his father, so Mongkut’s anger , while inappropriate given the time and place (personally I would have waited until after the party or discuss things after the party), it was entirely justified given the culture.
So interesting to see the differences between the stage musical & the original film vs. the cartoon making it family friendly. This scene when Tuptim gets caught always gets me sobbing. Plus Anna standing up for herself against the King's toxic ways. The love story is different between what's usually known and the cartoon. Chulalongkorn is the oldest son but he's around 10-12. The Forbidden romance Tuptim gets into is with the scholar Lun Tha. She gets caught pretending to be a Priest as her way of escape with him. So sad they didn't do THE SMALL HOUSE OF UNCLE THOMAS Ballet sequence (my favorite scene in the whole musical) even though they use it as a cameo during GETTING TO KNOW YOU.
I will say, as janky as this version is in retrospect, especially compared to the broadway runs and 1956 film, this line is pure fire: “Every blow will cut into my heart and tell me who - *and what* - you are!”
If British soldiers were here, Sir Edward would probably order them to put the King of Siam in chains and have the others restrained to prevent intervention. The British delegates will accuse the king for lying to think he’s civilized. They will call him a savage barbarian for his actions. Sir Edward would even make a report to the British Colonial Governor from India or whatever or even Queen Victoria herself to possibly set up a trial for his deeds or something. There would be RETRIBUTION! Heck even British people might form an angry mob on the king. Something I saw in Disney’s Beauty and the Beast or an epic clash like Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
@@joshualee7006 the British would definitely arrest the king in a heartbeat while chaining him up and gagging him, and Siam would immediately be under British protection. They would even put the king on trial and see who’s lying.
Been a long time since I’ve seen this version! Yet I like the whipping scene in the 1956 movie better without the background music. I’m glad I wasn’t traumatized
It’s kinda bizarre to see this movie compared to the play versions. Especially with the start of the movie getting attacked by a giant sea dragon, making a Kralahome a wizard, Master Little being a caricature sidekick, a bunch of animal sidekicks and more. 😵💫 I wish I could ask Richard Rich what was the thought process for these ideas in this movie.
@@joshualee7006 Didn’t know they included him in the plays too. Kinda hoping the character has been improved upon, but wish you luck on your audition :)
To be honest when I saw a production of the musical, I went thinking the opening was going to be the same. I’m glad by the time Whistle A Happy Tune is sung that it wasn’t the case
Most likely because she was given to the King of Siam as a gift by the king of Barmah and most likely one of his own servants etc She had most likely dishonoured herself and offended the King of Burma and their country - hence her being killed.
I remember watching this when I was younger and I loved the whole thing. Then I watched the real Broadway show and saw many differences. Then a while later, found this again on DVD and thought how rushed it was. Still love it just wish it would take its time
I really don’t like much about this version. There are some good ideas but the sidekicks and character development are quite awful. I do love the score though !
@@RedaDoodles Agree. I do love the love story just wish it was developed more
They cut some of the most iconic moments from the Animated film!!! Why did they NOT do the Small House of Uncle Thomas scene?!! That's my favorite!!!
It was a good thing I saw the 50’s movie first
While people seem to be jumping on Mongkut for his actions we have to remember something: this Necklace isn’t just some babble that he drug out of a drawer to give to his son, this was a FAMILY HEIRLOOM, a symbol of the royal family passed down from generation. By giving it to his servant lover, Chulalakorn is basically saying (though certainly unintentionally) “our family, and by extension you, is not worth anything. He was unintentionally insulting his father, so Mongkut’s anger , while inappropriate given the time and place (personally I would have waited until after the party or discuss things after the party), it was entirely justified given the culture.
You got a very good point there, I'm glad you brought it up here. :)
Not to mention anyone that high born was surely destined for someone equally important and anything less would be a giant mess to say the least.
So does it symbolize he gives up royal custom and tradition for Tuptim?
No, he is a young man who made a very boneheaded decision without thinking
So interesting to see the differences between the stage musical & the original film vs. the cartoon making it family friendly. This scene when Tuptim gets caught always gets me sobbing. Plus Anna standing up for herself against the King's toxic ways.
The love story is different between what's usually known and the cartoon. Chulalongkorn is the oldest son but he's around 10-12. The Forbidden romance Tuptim gets into is with the scholar Lun Tha. She gets caught pretending to be a Priest as her way of escape with him.
So sad they didn't do THE SMALL HOUSE OF UNCLE THOMAS Ballet sequence (my favorite scene in the whole musical) even though they use it as a cameo during GETTING TO KNOW YOU.
0:43 Older Louis: (narrating) I could do nothing but watch in great shock.
But that monkey stepped in and you ran away with the prince and Tuptim.
0:34 Older Louis: (narrating) The Kralahome’s wicked plan had finally begun to take flight.
Making the king become a barbarrian in front of the British.
@0:35
Who who who?! 😂
😂
you should see what the Nostalgia Critic made out of it in his review of the film he even compared it to Daffy Duck going hoohoohoohoo
I will say, as janky as this version is in retrospect, especially compared to the broadway runs and 1956 film, this line is pure fire:
“Every blow will cut into my heart and tell me who - *and what* - you are!”
@@thehouseofgloryhoundz edited accordingly
“I cannot believe you’d do this”
“you WILL believe when hear whip”
Lmfao oh my god 😂
If British soldiers were here, Sir Edward would probably order them to put the King of Siam in chains and have the others restrained to prevent intervention.
The British delegates will accuse the king for lying to think he’s civilized. They will call him a savage barbarian for his actions.
Sir Edward would even make a report to the British Colonial Governor from India or whatever or even Queen Victoria herself to possibly set up a trial for his deeds or something.
There would be RETRIBUTION!
Heck even British people might form an angry mob on the king. Something I saw in Disney’s Beauty and the Beast or an epic clash like Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
You do know that this isn’t fully accurate, right?
@@joshualee7006 Thought we could see British soldiers get involved in this event.
@@efcoolstar3849it would be but then Siam/Thailand would be under the British crown and not their own
@@joshualee7006 the British would definitely arrest the king in a heartbeat while chaining him up and gagging him, and Siam would immediately be under British protection. They would even put the king on trial and see who’s lying.
Been a long time since I’ve seen this version! Yet I like the whipping scene in the 1956 movie better without the background music. I’m glad I wasn’t traumatized
I remember how terrifying king mungkot can be and i was disgusted by his actions!!!😠😠😠
British soldiers should’ve been there to arrest him or maybe shoot him.
It’s kinda bizarre to see this movie compared to the play versions. Especially with the start of the movie getting attacked by a giant sea dragon, making a Kralahome a wizard, Master Little being a caricature sidekick, a bunch of animal sidekicks and more. 😵💫
I wish I could ask Richard Rich what was the thought process for these ideas in this movie.
And I was actually planning to audition for master little in the play
@@joshualee7006 Didn’t know they included him in the plays too. Kinda hoping the character has been improved upon, but wish you luck on your audition :)
@@molinagrn65 sorry dude it was a joke
To be honest when I saw a production of the musical, I went thinking the opening was going to be the same. I’m glad by the time Whistle A Happy Tune is sung that it wasn’t the case
The Thai hate this movie. I'm shocked someone your age knows it exist.
I'm shocked you know my age. :)
I never heard of this movie til Nostalgia Critic review it.
@Thomas Shalloo I am super, thanks for asking" Was that in the movie or did NC edit it? I legit want to know : D
@Thomas Shalloo From what i have seen online, the 1956 movie with same name "The King and I " seems like the only movie worth watching
@@drmarioprojectm1510 Why do you keep saying that lol
0:34 - “Your Daffy Duck impression could use some work!”
-Nostalgia Critic
Good that the king finally understood but he is too rude to Anna and his son. Why would Tuptim be killed in Birma?
Most likely because she was given to the King of Siam as a gift by the king of Barmah and most likely one of his own servants etc
She had most likely dishonoured herself and offended the King of Burma and their country - hence her being killed.
2:14 Kralahome: Insolent coward.
These Asians really take honour very seriously.
Tuptim is very pretty.
The King has got to be the worst character of the movie.
He can be not very sympathetic in this movie at times, but I think that title goes to Master Little with how racist they depicted him. 💀
That's probably why this film is banned in Thailand--King Mongkut's portrayal is just so inaccurate.