Lovely to see your enthusiasm and your attitude to keep these pipes together for their real purpose of making music. Best of luck to you. The open wood is 4 octaves and one note, looks like a claribel flute or open diapason. The reed is a clarinet and a good one by the sound (NB, best to not blow reeds by mouth as your saliva will condense on the metal parts and corrode the tongue causing damage, this used to be a sackable offence at some organ companies). Your 61 notes of stopped diapason is a complete 5 octaves and also sound nice. Good find and do please show us what you do with these.
Thanks for your response. Very good advice about blowing the reed pipes by mouth because of the moisture affecting the reeds. I will take it to heart! LOL! Thanks again, and please check out the other videos showing the full story behind the restoration of #4055. Michael F.
Thanks for your reply. Whatever they are they work well and I'd like to try them in a midi solution at some point. I guess there are lots of these ranks sitting in people's storage units! :) Thanks again and thanks for watching, Michael F.
@ any time you can get a rank of organ pipes for free is good, Same goes for any other organ parts (windchest, regulators, blowers). I’m in SE Michigan and got chance to rescue a Wurlitzer 6 rank chest (diapason, viol, viol Céleste, clarinet, orchestral oboe and flute), the bottom half of a 16’ tuba horn rank (about 44 pipes) a 16’ bourdon octave minus two pipes, the two 7 note offset chest for the tuba and some swell shutter motors, all Wurlitzer, all was about to go in the dump🙁
Okay that's a treasure! However, might not be quite as useful as you'd hoped. They're probably from a church organ -- sadly, we're seeing the slow demise of church organs, so pipes like those are readily available. The metal pipes look like "vox humana" pipes to me. The lead sheets on the tops of the open pipes for tuning are called "shades." Don't expect your air compressor to sound right -- the pipes need a large volume of air rather than huge pressure. Think of blowing up an air mattress rather than a bicycle tire. I "accidentally" purchased a decommissioned church organ, everything but the console, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it! At least I have the blower, bellows, and wind chests! I love your value as a conservationist, but you might even want to consider salvaging some of the pipes for their lovely wood.
Thanks for your detailed reply. I did originally intend to use some of the pipes in my organ and use others for the beautiful, aged timber. When I realized that they were complete ranks I had second thoughts. What happens to them is a bit up in the air, but I do agree with you that it may be more difficult to use them as fully functioning ranks. I have a half-formed idea of building a large windchest on wheels and link it into the W105 with Midi. I see you have some videos on your page with midi solenoids etc. Do you have any experience of building midi solutions? Again, I really appreciate your comments, and thanks for watching. Cheers Michael Fotheringham
61 pipes, 5 octaves on the last set... When I was really into pipe organs years ago, I probably could have looked at those and known the rank... But nope, memory fails. Maybe tibia? but they seem a bit thin.
I can see I'm going to have to google Tibia pipes. I thought ranks were always named after an instrument, ie violins, piccolos etc. I've a lot to learn. Luckily as a pensioner I have the time :) LOL!
@@WurlitzerOrganRescueMany are named that way, but there are also a lot that aren't (more so in church style organs than theatre ones). They're normally separated by tone quality. Diapasons have a fat, slightly reedy tone with lots of low harmonics, the classic "organ sounds". Open Diapason, Principal, Fifteenth are examples. Flutes have a soft, pure tone with few higher harmonics. Confusingly, the Stopped Diapason is a flute! Strings look similar to diapasons but thinner (small scale) which pushes the tone to the higher harmonics for the sizzling sound, and some, like Celestes, are tuned slightly off to give a shimmering beat when combined with other stops. And reeds are pretty self-explanatory!
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not a pro and I wasn't sure if all intermediate notes are included in pipe ranks, ie sharps. I know on my W105 the basic melody ranks are only 14 pipes and don't include all the extra :) Thanks again! Michael F.
Thanks. I guess you can divide quicker than I can :) Seriously, I do think the ranks are complete and really want to build them into a unit which can be connected to my 105 by midi. No clue how it will sound, but that's the beauty of being able to experiment !! :) Thanks Michael F.
Yes you need a full 12 pipes per octave! I would have expected 56 notes per rank, or perhaps 61 in rare cases, but I'm not sure if that's standard for Wurlitzers.
Lovely to see your enthusiasm and your attitude to keep these pipes together for their real purpose of making music. Best of luck to you.
The open wood is 4 octaves and one note, looks like a claribel flute or open diapason. The reed is a clarinet and a good one by the sound (NB, best to not blow reeds by mouth as your saliva will condense on the metal parts and corrode the tongue causing damage, this used to be a sackable offence at some organ companies). Your 61 notes of stopped diapason is a complete 5 octaves and also sound nice. Good find and do please show us what you do with these.
Thanks for your response. Very good advice about blowing the reed pipes by mouth because of the moisture affecting the reeds. I will take it to heart! LOL!
Thanks again, and please check out the other videos showing the full story behind the restoration of #4055.
Michael F.
Reed rank is most likely a clarinet. A vox rank would have shorter resonators.
Thanks for your reply. Whatever they are they work well and I'd like to try them in a midi solution at some point. I guess there are lots of these ranks sitting in people's storage units! :)
Thanks again and thanks for watching,
Michael F.
@ any time you can get a rank of organ pipes for free is good, Same goes for any other organ parts (windchest, regulators, blowers). I’m in SE Michigan and got chance to rescue a Wurlitzer 6 rank chest (diapason, viol, viol Céleste, clarinet, orchestral oboe and flute), the bottom half of a 16’ tuba horn rank (about 44 pipes) a 16’ bourdon octave minus two pipes, the two 7 note offset chest for the tuba and some swell shutter motors, all Wurlitzer, all was about to go in the dump🙁
Okay that's a treasure! However, might not be quite as useful as you'd hoped. They're probably from a church organ -- sadly, we're seeing the slow demise of church organs, so pipes like those are readily available. The metal pipes look like "vox humana" pipes to me. The lead sheets on the tops of the open pipes for tuning are called "shades." Don't expect your air compressor to sound right -- the pipes need a large volume of air rather than huge pressure. Think of blowing up an air mattress rather than a bicycle tire. I "accidentally" purchased a decommissioned church organ, everything but the console, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it! At least I have the blower, bellows, and wind chests! I love your value as a conservationist, but you might even want to consider salvaging some of the pipes for their lovely wood.
Thanks for your detailed reply. I did originally intend to use some of the pipes in my organ and use others for the beautiful, aged timber. When I realized that they were complete ranks I had second thoughts. What happens to them is a bit up in the air, but I do agree with you that it may be more difficult to use them as fully functioning ranks.
I have a half-formed idea of building a large windchest on wheels and link it into the W105 with Midi. I see you have some videos on your page with midi solenoids etc. Do you have any experience of building midi solutions?
Again, I really appreciate your comments, and thanks for watching.
Cheers
Michael Fotheringham
@@WurlitzerOrganRescue we have an email conversation started, under my cheddarmonger account, so I'll share whatever info I've figured out!
61 pipes, 5 octaves on the last set... When I was really into pipe organs years ago, I probably could have looked at those and known the rank... But nope, memory fails. Maybe tibia? but they seem a bit thin.
I can see I'm going to have to google Tibia pipes. I thought ranks were always named after an instrument, ie violins, piccolos etc. I've a lot to learn. Luckily as a pensioner I have the time :) LOL!
@@WurlitzerOrganRescueMany are named that way, but there are also a lot that aren't (more so in church style organs than theatre ones). They're normally separated by tone quality. Diapasons have a fat, slightly reedy tone with lots of low harmonics, the classic "organ sounds". Open Diapason, Principal, Fifteenth are examples. Flutes have a soft, pure tone with few higher harmonics. Confusingly, the Stopped Diapason is a flute! Strings look similar to diapasons but thinner (small scale) which pushes the tone to the higher harmonics for the sizzling sound, and some, like Celestes, are tuned slightly off to give a shimmering beat when combined with other stops. And reeds are pretty self-explanatory!
If the open set is 50 pipes, it's four octaves plus one extra note (or two extra depending on how ya count).
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not a pro and I wasn't sure if all intermediate notes are included in pipe ranks, ie sharps. I know on my W105 the basic melody ranks are only 14 pipes and don't include all the extra :)
Thanks again!
Michael F.
Thanks. I guess you can divide quicker than I can :) Seriously, I do think the ranks are complete and really want to build them into a unit which can be connected to my 105 by midi. No clue how it will sound, but that's the beauty of being able to experiment !! :)
Thanks
Michael F.
Yes you need a full 12 pipes per octave! I would have expected 56 notes per rank, or perhaps 61 in rare cases, but I'm not sure if that's standard for Wurlitzers.