One night of horror? I am a stupid fool as I endured 32 years of marital horror. I have been single for the past 6 years now. I still bear the scars but at least I can sleep at night without keeping one eye open
I’m sorry for what you endured. I am now in a similar situation. I’m trying to get out just not able to yet because of money . If it was just me but it’s not. Anyway I hope soon I can sound as strong as you do.
History is often incredibly difficult to stomach. Looking back at these ancient practices definitely makes you realize how far we've come in terms of human rights.
It’s hard for me to imagine how women survived all the way up to the 20th century. The way that they were treated, always being second class citizens, and being brutalized because the man’s word is law, and for whatever reason they always thought that sex with their wife was a God-given right. But just the way women were treated all the time, for thousands of years…. It’s just amazing to me that that the female sex even survived.
When I was a virgin at age 17, not married, but had my first sexual experience and I did not bleed. I wonder how many young women were ostracized or killed because their bodies didn't fit the narrative 😢
Thank you for sharing such a personal perspective. It is terrifying to think how many women in history suffered simply because biology didn't follow the 'rules' written by men. The lack of medical knowledge was just as deadly as any weapon.
@RedInk_History and just think of the lack of knowledge in general in the time the bible was written, yet still millions of people refer to it like it's the final say in anything important.
The preparations were highly detailed! They involved the bride dedicating her childhood toys to the household gods (Lares), wearing a specific white tunic (tunica recta), and having her hair styled into six braids using the head of a spear. It was a very symbolic transition from childhood to adulthood.
Hemlock and Opium!!! How fucked up and sick. Not to justify ANYTHING, but just have someone who watches and that verifies the consummation? Every culture has its own sick and disturbing elements to its history. This is really fucked up!
She would be so f'd from Hemlock & Opium she wouldn't know her own name. Personally if someone was cramming stuff up me, Id rather be unconscious....I can only imagine the pain the next day...and then, if u had an evil pig for a husband, the second night would be worse. Siiiiiiickkkkk. The world is, was, and will always be sick
It would NOT be water hemlock as it is a DEADLY poison with minute amounts causing death... Also, there was a fear that if a women tripped going over the threshold it was a bad omen.. Also there were other cultures who did similar things...with white "virginity " cloths..
Ancient remedies often walked a fine line between medicine and poison! ☠️ But you are absolutely right about the threshold superstition-it was taken very seriously. Great addition to the discussion. 🤝
@RedInk_History hemlock is EXTREMELY poisonous. There was a local story years ago of a man cutting hemlock with a pocket knife and then peeling an apple with the same knife and dying..
There were no crulity but earlier in srilanka also on there homecoming a white sheet is put to the bed of the of the newlyweds to confirm the bride is a vergin but all these ancient rituals are gone with the 19th century.
That is fascinating! It’s amazing how many cultures had specific rituals for that night. For the Romans, the 'roughness' (like parting hair with a spear) wasn't about hurting her, but reenacting the legend of the Sabine Women. It looked violent, but it was just mandatory theater! 🏛️
Yes Many rituals for the (WOMAN ) Proving virginity and so many more. We can't even get old. No gray hair or a single wrinkle . Man *Gets old becomes DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN, Woman* Gets old Becomes (OLD HAG /BROKE DOWN / DRIED UP) Stay slim and breast's must not sag. Dont get tired or sleepy and always smile and don't talk , too much
Am i the only one who see parts of these wedding practices part of modern weddings but tone down in way thats looks romantic like when my husband carried into our honeymoon suit. Him an i both thought its just what husbands do as romantic fun but now i know It was so the bride couldnt run away i wanted to be there but i wouldnt run but i wouldnt done that if i new where the tradition came from ! An the part with male relatives carring her reminds me of the bride sitting on best mans lap an grooms men gather around her an husband blind folded an has to reach up her dress to remove her garder i thought it was normal so i did it at my wedding but it did take long before i felt uncomfortable with sitting on my brother in law lap while my husband reached under my dress with men surrounding me an cheering him on like it was some sexual act they were watching an getting off on it ! An i yelled at him to hurry up because he was prolonging it i felt like .!
No. I don't know. No accusation is made in this video. It is a lot of ominous music surrounding dramatic speech and it never names the ritual it claims to denounce. I don't know if they're being accused of breaking a hymen, removing a clitoral nib, or tattooing butterflies on her backside.
The video is referring to the forced breaking of the hymen (sometimes surgically by the matrons) to guarantee bleeding. In Roman law, the 'blood on the sheets' was often required as legal proof of the marriage's consummation and the bride's purity.
@RedInk_Historyperhaps that is what the video refers to but the video doesn't say that. Also, hymen breaking as a prelude to the wedding night, though rare today because hymens don't tend to last that long, is available in doctors' office across the modern world and hardly viewed as a form of assault. It definitely hasn't guaranteed anyone a submissive wife in any era. Of all the terrors faced by females in ancient Rome, I find it hard to believe that ritual hymen breaking was anywhere near the worst. The idea that any Roman aristocrat was dependent upon a gaggle of matrons to establish authority over a new bride is a bit of a tough sell.
@flickweethat means you made stuff up. This could just as easily be claiming Genital Mutilation. There is nothing between the lines, as you say, to disavow that reading.
It was of the times, that I understand. As a male who loves his counterpart females and honor them , I would find it hard not to fight against this brutality on a female, even if I lived in those times! I can't even today, watch a movie of a female being raped even knowing it's acting in a movie without turning the channel. It just violently angers me 💯. Females are to be protected at all costs!!! That's in my DNA and I make NO apologies!
It is definitely a difficult and brutal part of history to look back on. My goal is to shed light on these historical realities, however uncomfortable they may be, to better understand how far society has evolved.
It is easy to miss because it is so shocking! 🕰️ The specific 'how' is described around 03:50 - 05:00. The 'preparation' wasn't just advice; it was a surgical procedure performed by the matrons (using instruments and drugs like opium) to ensure the bride would bleed for the legal proof. It was less of a 'wedding night' and more of a medical operation. 🏥
Not really. They just hide it better and do it mostly with kids now, faciliated by institutions like the church and the CIA. Oh and with prostitutes and pornstars, mostly done by criminal gangs. That's what "normal" people pay for
Thank you for the honest feedback, Barbara. We are sorry the music balance was distracting! I am still tweaking the audio levels for future videos, so I will definitely make sure the music is lower next time. Thanks for giving it a try. 🙏
What if the man LOVED his wife and didn’t want these things to happen? This is what happened with the common people back then or with the higher up families? The wealthy? This can’t have been every class /element of society??
You are spot on. The crazy political marriages (and forced divorces) were mostly a problem for the Elite. Common people actually had much more freedom to marry for love because their unions didn't shift political power. The higher you went in society, the less freedom you had!.
History can often feel more intense than a horror movie. It’s important to document these ceremonies so we don't forget the actual human experiences of the past.
Yeah, again , there’s no way EVERY man only took teen wives and treated them like dogshit. Even those spoken out people are higher ups. So again, was the “Joe Shmo” of Rome a pedo, rapist? There was no love in Rome?
Great points! You're right to question the generalization. Most written history from Rome focuses on the wealthy/elite (Patricians), where marriage was almost purely a political contract. For the common 'Joe Schmo' (Plebeians), there was likely more freedom to marry for affection, though the legal laws regarding women were still very strict across the board. Love definitely existed, but the system wasn't designed for it.
Sadly, the mistreatment of women is a tragedy found in the history of almost every empire and era. The Red Ink of history stains the entire map, not just one region.
Which Muslim country you saw where this ever happened? Islam gave rights to woman. Quran taught to love wives. Quran says heaven is under mother feet. Stop the propaganda against Muslims
Women in all cultures faced cruelty in one way or the other. Islam, the only system in entire human history elevated women's honor, dignified her, protected her and granted her free will of living her life in full protection and happiness with free will. The only philosophy for the mankind to live an ideal peaceful and happy life on this planet earth is given by Islam. So lucky to be a Muslim. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ with love from Pakistan.
@JanetG-Queen My worthy friend there is no space for honor killings in Islam. This is the only religion which is so kind and advocates empathy that in its holy book Quran it says killing of one human being is like killing the whole of mankind and saving one life is as if you saved the whole of mankind. If you catch your spouse with another person (adultery), you are not supposed to kill her/him. You are simply allowed to divorce her/him keeping all her/his other rights intact. Islam advocates the policy of do for others what you would love doing for yourself. No class difference based on financial strength ie rich and poor or color of skin ie white or black is accepted in Islam. Equality, justice and human freedom is what this religion is all about. No capitalism, colonialism, fascism or inequality in society is acceptable. Stay blessed always. ❤❤❤❤❤
What Happened to Roman Brides Who Said NO , Watch This out 🔥:
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Thank God I m born in 20th century
Women have suffered in so many ways
One night of horror? I am a stupid fool as I endured 32 years of marital horror. I have been single for the past 6 years now. I still bear the scars but at least I can sleep at night without keeping one eye open
Thank you for sharing your story, flickwee I am so sorry you had to go through that, but I’m glad to hear you are finally safe and finding peace.
@xtheflabeox8813 i love seeing this kind of support in the comments. Thank you for being such an uplifting part of this community!
Oh my darling. You are not a stupid fool. I endured things, that now would be considered criminal. I am happy you have found peace.
I’m sorry for what you endured. I am now in a similar situation. I’m trying to get out just not able to yet because of money . If it was just me but it’s not. Anyway I hope soon I can sound as strong as you do.
I can’t imagine going through that. I’m glad you made it out, and you’re safe and happy now. ❤️
Stupidity could kill
This is really sickening!! the torture and the brutality. A dog was treated better.
Not in West Virginia that has no beastiality laws and the prase "Screwed the pooch" was coined.
History is often incredibly difficult to stomach. Looking back at these ancient practices definitely makes you realize how far we've come in terms of human rights.
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It’s hard for me to imagine how women survived all the way up to the 20th century. The way that they were treated, always being second class citizens, and being brutalized because the man’s word is law, and for whatever reason they always thought that sex with their wife was a God-given right. But just the way women were treated all the time, for thousands of years…. It’s just amazing to me that that the female sex even survived.
They had to keep some of us alive
In order to reproduce
They didn't have to treat u well
Just alive
@Nicole-w6z7otrue and they’re gonna get their comeuppance. Yesindeedy.
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This is sickeningly brutal torture.
When I was a virgin at age 17, not married, but had my first sexual experience and I did not bleed. I wonder how many young women were ostracized or killed because their bodies didn't fit the narrative 😢
In didn't eithor.....!I would have been killed also!!! Wow!!!
Thank you for sharing such a personal perspective. It is terrifying to think how many women in history suffered simply because biology didn't follow the 'rules' written by men. The lack of medical knowledge was just as deadly as any weapon.
@evilsteven5201It really puts things into perspective. We are very lucky to live in an age where science has (mostly) replaced superstition. ❤️
@RedInk_History and just think of the lack of knowledge in general in the time the bible was written, yet still millions of people refer to it like it's the final say in anything important.
@evilsteven5201chicken or other blood fooled many.
Women have suffered for thousands and thousands of years
It is heartbreaking how often these stories repeat throughout history. Thanks for watching.
True, but we circumcise baby boys to this day. Pretty barbaric...
True, so have men. Millions of men have given their lives defending their women, family and country.
And they still suffering 😢
What did they on preperation?
The preparations were highly detailed! They involved the bride dedicating her childhood toys to the household gods (Lares), wearing a specific white tunic (tunica recta), and having her hair styled into six braids using the head of a spear. It was a very symbolic transition from childhood to adulthood.
Hemlock and Opium!!!
How fucked up and sick.
Not to justify ANYTHING, but just have someone who watches and that verifies the consummation?
Every culture has its own sick and disturbing elements to its history.
This is really fucked up!
She would be so f'd from Hemlock & Opium she wouldn't know her own name. Personally if someone was cramming stuff up me, Id rather be unconscious....I can only imagine the pain the next day...and then, if u had an evil pig for a husband, the second night would be worse. Siiiiiiickkkkk. The world is, was, and will always be sick
And all involved women torture
This rituals is still present in some counties , although in a soft manner . Only white bed sheet is used now to note the blood spots.
It is definitely sobering to realize how many of these ancient rituals still have echoes or symbolic equivalents in various cultures today.
It would NOT be water hemlock as it is a DEADLY poison with minute amounts causing death... Also, there was a fear that if a women tripped going over the threshold it was a bad omen.. Also there were other cultures who did similar things...with white "virginity " cloths..
Ancient remedies often walked a fine line between medicine and poison! ☠️ But you are absolutely right about the threshold superstition-it was taken very seriously. Great addition to the discussion. 🤝
@RedInk_History hemlock is EXTREMELY poisonous. There was a local story years ago of a man cutting hemlock with a pocket knife and then peeling an apple with the same knife and dying..
There were no crulity but earlier in srilanka also on there homecoming a white sheet is put to the bed of the of the newlyweds to confirm the bride is a vergin but all these ancient rituals are gone with the 19th century.
That is fascinating! It’s amazing how many cultures had specific rituals for that night. For the Romans, the 'roughness' (like parting hair with a spear) wasn't about hurting her, but reenacting the legend of the Sabine Women. It looked violent, but it was just mandatory theater! 🏛️
Yes
Many rituals for the (WOMAN )
Proving virginity
and so many more. We can't even get old. No gray hair or a single wrinkle . Man *Gets old becomes DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN,
Woman* Gets old Becomes
(OLD HAG /BROKE DOWN / DRIED UP)
Stay slim and breast's must not sag. Dont get tired or sleepy and always smile and don't talk , too much
I was forced every day for 35 years even when I was having my periods
So what was the surgery that the older women performed on them? Did I miss where they said or am I supposed to assume something?
Monsters 👹👹👹
Άντρες*
Sick world..
But is this theory actually proved by historical and archeologists??
I had a wonderful family joan
Am i the only one who see parts of these wedding practices part of modern weddings but tone down in way thats looks romantic like when my husband carried into our honeymoon suit. Him an i both thought its just what husbands do as romantic fun but now i know It was so the bride couldnt run away i wanted to be there but i wouldnt run but i wouldnt done that if i new where the tradition came from ! An the part with male relatives carring her reminds me of the bride sitting on best mans lap an grooms men gather around her an husband blind folded an has to reach up her dress to remove her garder i thought it was normal so i did it at my wedding but it did take long before i felt uncomfortable with sitting on my brother in law lap while my husband reached under my dress with men surrounding me an cheering him on like it was some sexual act they were watching an getting off on it ! An i yelled at him to hurry up because he was prolonging it i felt like .!
No. I don't know. No accusation is made in this video. It is a lot of ominous music surrounding dramatic speech and it never names the ritual it claims to denounce.
I don't know if they're being accused of breaking a hymen, removing a clitoral nib, or tattooing butterflies on her backside.
The video is referring to the forced breaking of the hymen (sometimes surgically by the matrons) to guarantee bleeding. In Roman law, the 'blood on the sheets' was often required as legal proof of the marriage's consummation and the bride's purity.
@RedInk_Historyperhaps that is what the video refers to but the video doesn't say that.
Also, hymen breaking as a prelude to the wedding night, though rare today because hymens don't tend to last that long, is available in doctors' office across the modern world and hardly viewed as a form of assault. It definitely hasn't guaranteed anyone a submissive wife in any era.
Of all the terrors faced by females in ancient Rome, I find it hard to believe that ritual hymen breaking was anywhere near the worst.
The idea that any Roman aristocrat was dependent upon a gaggle of matrons to establish authority over a new bride is a bit of a tough sell.
I read between the lines.
@flickweethat means you made stuff up.
This could just as easily be claiming Genital Mutilation. There is nothing between the lines, as you say, to disavow that reading.
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It was of the times, that I understand. As a male who loves his counterpart females and honor them , I would find it hard not to fight against this brutality on a female, even if I lived in those times! I can't even today, watch a movie of a female being raped even knowing it's acting in a movie without turning the channel. It just violently angers me 💯. Females are to be protected at all costs!!! That's in my DNA and I make NO apologies!
It is definitely a difficult and brutal part of history to look back on. My goal is to shed light on these historical realities, however uncomfortable they may be, to better understand how far society has evolved.
Pandering at its finest. Females. How about women and girls
@dov_god122you must be a child 😅
Oké
You nevr did say what happened and how it was done.
It is easy to miss because it is so shocking! 🕰️ The specific 'how' is described around 03:50 - 05:00. The 'preparation' wasn't just advice; it was a surgical procedure performed by the matrons (using instruments and drugs like opium) to ensure the bride would bleed for the legal proof. It was less of a 'wedding night' and more of a medical operation. 🏥
that is crazy world changed alot
It did
Not really. They just hide it better and do it mostly with kids now, faciliated by institutions like the church and the CIA. Oh and with prostitutes and pornstars, mostly done by criminal gangs. That's what "normal" people pay for
Its HISTORY HEY NOW IN TODAY'S WORLD ITS THE OPPOSITE 😅
Music is too much for this video. I have to listen hard and the music is very distracting. I can’t enjoy the story. Very sad about that.
Thank you for the honest feedback, Barbara. We are sorry the music balance was distracting! I am still tweaking the audio levels for future videos, so I will definitely make sure the music is lower next time. Thanks for giving it a try. 🙏
What if the man LOVED his wife and didn’t want these things to happen?
This is what happened with the common people back then or with the higher up families? The wealthy?
This can’t have been every class /element of society??
You are spot on. The crazy political marriages (and forced divorces) were mostly a problem for the Elite. Common people actually had much more freedom to marry for love because their unions didn't shift political power. The higher you went in society, the less freedom you had!.
Men!!!
Ewwwww my goodness!! This is so stupid!!
Horror movie
History can often feel more intense than a horror movie. It’s important to document these ceremonies so we don't forget the actual human experiences of the past.
Yeah, again , there’s no way EVERY man only took teen wives and treated them like dogshit. Even those spoken out people are higher ups. So again, was the “Joe Shmo” of Rome a pedo, rapist? There was no love in Rome?
Great points! You're right to question the generalization. Most written history from Rome focuses on the wealthy/elite (Patricians), where marriage was almost purely a political contract. For the common 'Joe Schmo' (Plebeians), there was likely more freedom to marry for affection, though the legal laws regarding women were still very strict across the board. Love definitely existed, but the system wasn't designed for it.
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See and ppl say feminism
Mitä tapahtuu tälläkin hetkellä muslimimaissa,eipä paljon tuosta taida erota!😢😢😢
Sadly, the mistreatment of women is a tragedy found in the history of almost every empire and era. The Red Ink of history stains the entire map, not just one region.
Which Muslim country you saw where this ever happened? Islam gave rights to woman. Quran taught to love wives. Quran says heaven is under mother feet. Stop the propaganda against Muslims
@IqraJahangir-e7yi love this
@AzeezLateef-j8r❤❤
Women in all cultures faced cruelty in one way or the other. Islam, the only system in entire human history elevated women's honor, dignified her, protected her and granted her free will of living her life in full protection and happiness with free will. The only philosophy for the mankind to live an ideal peaceful and happy life on this planet earth is given by Islam. So lucky to be a Muslim. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ with love from Pakistan.
Thank you for the kind words and the love from Pakistan! ❤️🇵🇰
Then please explain honor killings?
@JanetG-Queen My worthy friend there is no space for honor killings in Islam. This is the only religion which is so kind and advocates empathy that in its holy book Quran it says killing of one human being is like killing the whole of mankind and saving one life is as if you saved the whole of mankind. If you catch your spouse with another person (adultery), you are not supposed to kill her/him. You are simply allowed to divorce her/him keeping all her/his other rights intact. Islam advocates the policy of do for others what you would love doing for yourself. No class difference based on financial strength ie rich and poor or color of skin ie white or black is accepted in Islam. Equality, justice and human freedom is what this religion is all about. No capitalism, colonialism, fascism or inequality in society is acceptable. Stay blessed always. ❤❤❤❤❤
@RedInk_HistoryHonored indeed😊
The Romans were fucked up. The worst of their time.
Sick
History wasn't always a fairytale! 🥀 It was a brutal time
or jus primae noctisor jus primae noctis