They'll say anything to try to placate the community, but in the end, I think they'll still push through things, like Sets, that nobody wants. If they were serious, they'd abandon some of their unpopular ideas
12:50 Interesting, I was begging them to acknowledge the fact that I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NEW COMMANDERS VOICE!!! they suck!!! I want my old crew voice back!! 20:40 so basically WG lacks communication. Yep, they should have fking said it's not going to be supported YET but they didn't say that leading to many people reasonably outraged from this 22:38 I still remember what they said in their Commanders video: they said Skilled players possessed a clear advantage to those who were new to the game. Then WTF are skilled players if they aren't supposed to be better than new players!?? That's like saying a skilled AR player who has played for years in CODM shouldn't be better than a normal player. I'm actually more pissed at this than I thought because all of the crew skills I have are more than 4 or 5 levels, that TOOK me like a lot of battles!!! 25:15 Did he never hear about TANK ROLES in PC?!?! If they have put those in then the new players would have UNDERSTOOD what these tanks were supposed to do!! OMG!!! And then they have the gut to say Tech Tree are confusing!! Tf??!! I've played this game since I was 8 YEARS OLD, tech trees were never confusing at all!! Nah I'm not trusting them with these answers. They never even acknowledge the feedbacks that were worried commanders or new currencies will be paid ( probably for now ) Edit: okay, I think I need to apologize for how I said up there. I'm just frustrated with how they addressed the problems because it doesn't feel like they're actually addressing them but for the sake of trying to calm the players down. I've played for almost 9 years so it's hard for me to take it in
Yes, but no. No commanders, or UNINSTALL. No sets, or UNINSTALL. Organization of sets does not matter. No Steel, or UNINSTALL. No pay to play, or UNINSTALL. Honestly, roll back this update, fire whoever pushed this direction, or UNINSTALL. Don't go soft. Keep up the good fight against WG.
Yeah, listened is a stretch. They said stats would remain in game ... but everything else (sets/commanders) they were still in and would be and if we didn't like it ... we could go to hell .. essentially. They were getting visibly upset by all the people saying sets and commanders sucked in chat.
Tbh. There’s a lot of Yapping on WG Stream. They making such a long words about it just to confused player base. Instead of saying “Yeah we won’t do this because X”. Like for god sake just be honest to the playerbase, straight to the point you want this or nay?
You picked up some excellent points here ... i can live with Commanders if theyre remodelled, but don't start nerfing them once ive spent time & resources on them ! Sets .. well thats a whole other mess, ive never seen any feedback that new players found them difficult to navigate. The sets ARE difficult to fathom out though. Plus this whole thing about levelling the playing field between new & veterans is BS ! Makes me feel like what's the point of investing time & resources to have no advantages in the game .
The current game is rigged. Win streaks are rewarded with losing streaks. It's all by design, part of the programming. Designed to frustrate players into spending. This will drive me away from the game more than any of this stupid update.
They’re not listening they never intended to put most of the BS stuff into the game, I recorded a YT vid on my channel the day before WG did this stream and predicted 90% of what they where going to say, it’s all marketing rubbish, they want commanders and sets and will spin it that they have made the changes we want when we never wanted it in the first place. Commanders and sets are in the game to be monetised to pay for UE5 end of story.
He said that "There's been feedback that the new players find the Tech trees overwhelming". This is a lie. The truth is "Theres been feedback "The sets are overwhelming". WG Leave the tech tree alone.
Not gonna lie, I don’t fee very listened to. I commented this on Droodles’ video as well, but, pretty much almost every problem I have with the UE5 update, hasn’t really been addressed, and the very few they did address, were not really addressed to a satisfactory level. It’s still looking like they’re going to go through with a disaster. They’ll polish it up and make it prettier and cleaner, sure, but it’s still a disaster. So it’s still looking like I’ll still need to get ready to park my account and get my bags and walk away.
I attended the live update and to be honest Thane & Andre (Lead Designers) spent most of the stream justifying the changes to the game. Those two get a -D in listening skills. The real star was Alexandra who obviously reading the player comments and translating into a more supportive feedback and ensured we the community got the most of the information. As for tank sets they are going to re-work it so its easier to find the tanks veterans of the game want to locate.
Leave the tech tree alone, I spent a lot of time grinding xp to research a tank and now I have been grinding for credits which is slower than xp. Just for wg to tell me to bad and take them away and then I have to regrind them again?? F¥€k that!! Sets are BS! Commanders are BS!
Yup, my thoughts exactly, well done. The sets thing, for me are the deal breaker. Anyone who says these "sets" are easier to understand, or even cooler, are idiots. Theres other things I dislike alot but ill leave it foe later
There is no place for me to give them comments directly in game. There should be. The stacking of tanks, the commanders, all of the build up and maintenance of the tanks are secondary to the actual game play. The tanks and maps are low quality. When you try to raise the quality, it makes the game unplayable. When you lower the quality, the game looks like a low quality cartoon. The quality of the classic version is way better than the current test version of Unreal. Unreal Engine is a downgrade as far as game play graphics goes. That is a major beef IMO. I wont invest more $$ until I see realistic game play, like I see in classic version. Also, I want comments and I want to interact with other players in game. That is a big part of the fun for me.
Lol, you said at one point you were going to pause until he said something useful... still waiting!😂 Commanders would be ok if you could select your own skills.. Sets... dumbest thing I've seen in years! I don't think this is the same group of devs that designed Blitz originally, they knew what they were doing .
Some of their arguments just don’t ad up unless they have info/data everybody else does not have. This accounts for sets, economy, ui etc. and the proposed changes don’t fix it to deal with these issues so the arguments fall flat in parts. Unless they address this proper it’s not going to be good and they will waste time and energy, as a result people will still be unhappy with the outcome.
That giy in the blakc hoodie was talking nonsense about the tech tree they gotta fire him the tech tree is fine One of his point was that all the ta ks cant fit on the screen like tf???
When the most of us quit playing their game and walk away...Then these people involved can laugh it up now...then when the game fall on its face and fails....and this company goes broke...guess we will have the last laugh😅 😂😜🤪😛
im still mad about this update so much crap that doesnt need to be added, also 23:50 its unfair to the new players anyway because THEY ARE NEEW!!!! they suck thats why they are new thats like comparing a bloody pro league player to someone whos played for a few battles they are new they are bad its how it works like bruuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i think wgs mistake with the reforged update isnt the communication part, but over ambitious developement agenda rather than doing 3 things at a time really well, they did too much and got caught up with what we call "developement fog" or "developement disorientation", the over ambundance of changes, and the amount of management needed to land *every single change right* is something that takes years sometimes even a decade to achieve, and they are regugitating their own vomit fu** up as we speak.
Honestly i dont want any of them coming to unreal engine 5 just want high graphics thats it.we have some solutions for lag but its ok, THATS IT THATS WAHT WE WANT ATLEAST KEEP THE TECH TREE AND MAKE COMMANDERS FREE.
You think so? Nothing changes, just promises for minor but not core changes. Unlimited ammo but they call it realistic game. Minus credits in battle but they don’t make consumables cheaper 😂 have they explained how you will get fadin’s medal 😂 they listen but I don’t trust them.
Imagine starting an highly successful and historically based game and ruin it with garbage genz commanders. Ffs use Patton, Monty, Ike there’s so many characters to use instead of a Connor Macgregor clone
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Yes there will be a second part of this video. I didnt like some of their answers tbh
They'll say anything to try to placate the community, but in the end, I think they'll still push through things, like Sets, that nobody wants. If they were serious, they'd abandon some of their unpopular ideas
12:50 Interesting, I was begging them to acknowledge the fact that I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NEW COMMANDERS VOICE!!! they suck!!! I want my old crew voice back!!
20:40 so basically WG lacks communication. Yep, they should have fking said it's not going to be supported YET but they didn't say that leading to many people reasonably outraged from this
22:38 I still remember what they said in their Commanders video: they said Skilled players possessed a clear advantage to those who were new to the game. Then WTF are skilled players if they aren't supposed to be better than new players!?? That's like saying a skilled AR player who has played for years in CODM shouldn't be better than a normal player. I'm actually more pissed at this than I thought because all of the crew skills I have are more than 4 or 5 levels, that TOOK me like a lot of battles!!!
25:15 Did he never hear about TANK ROLES in PC?!?! If they have put those in then the new players would have UNDERSTOOD what these tanks were supposed to do!! OMG!!! And then they have the gut to say Tech Tree are confusing!! Tf??!! I've played this game since I was 8 YEARS OLD, tech trees were never confusing at all!!
Nah I'm not trusting them with these answers. They never even acknowledge the feedbacks that were worried commanders or new currencies will be paid ( probably for now )
Edit: okay, I think I need to apologize for how I said up there. I'm just frustrated with how they addressed the problems because it doesn't feel like they're actually addressing them but for the sake of trying to calm the players down. I've played for almost 9 years so it's hard for me to take it in
They honestly dgaf... this is just some lame-azz attempt to put a positive spin on the playerbase's outcry.
Yes, but no.
No commanders, or UNINSTALL.
No sets, or UNINSTALL. Organization of sets does not matter.
No Steel, or UNINSTALL.
No pay to play, or UNINSTALL.
Honestly, roll back this update, fire whoever pushed this direction, or UNINSTALL.
Don't go soft.
Keep up the good fight against WG.
Commanders should exist only as a skill is not needed to visualize them. Instead, leave the national voice of the crew.
I've quit WoT Blitz and the Reforged test. I'm done with WarGaming and their bullshit.
Man, idk what are they smoking at WG, but it must be a really good shit when they think tech trees are way more overwhelming then fucking sets 😂😂😂
oh dw I have a whole video on it
Yeah, listened is a stretch. They said stats would remain in game ... but everything else (sets/commanders) they were still in and would be and if we didn't like it ... we could go to hell .. essentially. They were getting visibly upset by all the people saying sets and commanders sucked in chat.
I knew Stats would be the first thing they cave on, there is no money in it for them. Meh.
Tbh. There’s a lot of Yapping on WG Stream. They making such a long words about it just to confused player base. Instead of saying “Yeah we won’t do this because X”. Like for god sake just be honest to the playerbase, straight to the point you want this or nay?
Goodbye, Blitz....Hello, War Thunder
It’s not really the devs who make the decisions but yeah
You picked up some excellent points here ... i can live with Commanders if theyre remodelled, but don't start nerfing them once ive spent time & resources on them !
Sets .. well thats a whole other mess, ive never seen any feedback that new players found them difficult to navigate. The sets ARE difficult to fathom out though. Plus this whole thing about levelling the playing field between new & veterans is BS ! Makes me feel like what's the point of investing time & resources to have no advantages in the game .
The current game is rigged. Win streaks are rewarded with losing streaks. It's all by design, part of the programming. Designed to frustrate players into spending. This will drive me away from the game more than any of this stupid update.
Been saying this for years. So obviously rigged. One game tank is useless next it’s f Ken superpower. They perfected rage tactics
They’re not listening they never intended to put most of the BS stuff into the game, I recorded a YT vid on my channel the day before WG did this stream and predicted 90% of what they where going to say, it’s all marketing rubbish, they want commanders and sets and will spin it that they have made the changes we want when we never wanted it in the first place. Commanders and sets are in the game to be monetised to pay for UE5 end of story.
Well said mate. Yea you're not wrong about the marketing bs.
He said that "There's been feedback that the new players find the Tech trees overwhelming". This is a lie.
The truth is "Theres been feedback "The sets are overwhelming".
WG Leave the tech tree alone.
Yes agreed
If we get erwin rommel as a commander i would scream
Not gonna lie, I don’t fee very listened to. I commented this on Droodles’ video as well, but, pretty much almost every problem I have with the UE5 update, hasn’t really been addressed, and the very few they did address, were not really addressed to a satisfactory level. It’s still looking like they’re going to go through with a disaster. They’ll polish it up and make it prettier and cleaner, sure, but it’s still a disaster. So it’s still looking like I’ll still need to get ready to park my account and get my bags and walk away.
I attended the live update and to be honest Thane & Andre (Lead Designers) spent most of the stream justifying the changes to the game. Those two get a -D in listening skills. The real star was Alexandra who obviously reading the player comments and translating into a more supportive feedback and ensured we the community got the most of the information. As for tank sets they are going to re-work it so its easier to find the tanks veterans of the game want to locate.
Leave the tech tree alone, I spent a lot of time grinding xp to research a tank and now I have been grinding for credits which is slower than xp. Just for wg to tell me to bad and take them away and then I have to regrind them again?? F¥€k that!! Sets are BS! Commanders are BS!
Yeah it’s a bummer for sure, I feel you!
Yup, my thoughts exactly, well done.
The sets thing, for me are the deal breaker. Anyone who says these "sets" are easier to understand, or even cooler, are idiots.
Theres other things I dislike alot but ill leave it foe later
There is no place for me to give them comments directly in game. There should be. The stacking of tanks, the commanders, all of the build up and maintenance of the tanks are secondary to the actual game play. The tanks and maps are low quality. When you try to raise the quality, it makes the game unplayable. When you lower the quality, the game looks like a low quality cartoon. The quality of the classic version is way better than the current test version of Unreal. Unreal Engine is a downgrade as far as game play graphics goes. That is a major beef IMO. I wont invest more $$ until I see realistic game play, like I see in classic version. Also, I want comments and I want to interact with other players in game. That is a big part of the fun for me.
Lol, you said at one point you were going to pause until he said something useful... still waiting!😂
Commanders would be ok if you could select your own skills..
Sets... dumbest thing I've seen in years!
I don't think this is the same group of devs that designed Blitz originally, they knew what they were doing .
Some of their arguments just don’t ad up unless they have info/data everybody else does not have. This accounts for sets, economy, ui etc. and the proposed changes don’t fix it to deal with these issues so the arguments fall flat in parts. Unless they address this proper it’s not going to be good and they will waste time and energy, as a result people will still be unhappy with the outcome.
That lead developer guy should pursue a career in politics
That giy in the blakc hoodie was talking nonsense about the tech tree they gotta fire him the tech tree is fine
One of his point was that all the ta ks cant fit on the screen like tf???
When the most of us quit playing their game and walk away...Then these people involved can laugh it up now...then when the game fall on its face and fails....and this company goes broke...guess we will have the last laugh😅 😂😜🤪😛
Just woke up at 5 and saw this
Immediately put a smile on my face :)
lmfao sorry mate i call bs on that WG have never listened to their community in their entire history s oI have a hard time believing they are now
Yea idk mate. I'm trying to be optimistic you never know
New update, sounds good. BRING BACK PREMIUM TIME FOR GOLD!
im still mad about this update so much crap that doesnt need to be added, also 23:50 its unfair to the new players anyway because THEY ARE NEEW!!!! they suck thats why they are new thats like comparing a bloody pro league player to someone whos played for a few battles they are new they are bad its how it works like bruuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i think wgs mistake with the reforged update isnt the communication part, but over ambitious developement agenda
rather than doing 3 things at a time really well, they did too much and got caught up with what we call "developement fog" or "developement disorientation", the over ambundance of changes, and the amount of management needed to land *every single change right* is something that takes years sometimes even a decade to achieve, and they are regugitating their own vomit fu** up as we speak.
No sets. Commanders are ok if balanced. Bring back general chat. Its not too complicated. We want our tech trees.
Honestly i dont want any of them coming to unreal engine 5 just want high graphics thats it.we have some solutions for lag but its ok, THATS IT THATS WAHT WE WANT ATLEAST KEEP THE TECH TREE AND MAKE COMMANDERS FREE.
IF THE SETS OR OTHER BULLSHIT STAY I GO ITS THAT SIMPLE
Finally
You think so? Nothing changes, just promises for minor but not core changes. Unlimited ammo but they call it realistic game. Minus credits in battle but they don’t make consumables cheaper 😂 have they explained how you will get fadin’s medal 😂 they listen but I don’t trust them.
Imagine starting an highly successful and historically based game and ruin it with garbage genz commanders. Ffs use Patton, Monty, Ike there’s so many characters to use instead of a Connor Macgregor clone
No, they didn't.
really
I was happy with every talking point touched on in the stream man, so promising
Don’t think they caught the sarcasm…lol!