It would be so helpful to distinguish between carbohydrates that are good for you such as fiber and resistant starches and refined carbs such as sugar and flour that are bad for you. This needs to be stated every-time the term carbohydrate is used. In my mind this is a never ending source of confusion about nutrition.
This is true, but it doesn’t contradict anything they said. They didn’t recommend that people eat refined carbs. All they claimed is that it goes against the notion that carbohydrates are *inherently* bad, which it does.
@RiDankulous and rice! Sushi is great! You can also just eat the microwaveable bags of rice straight from the bag which is even better because it's not fully cooked so takes longer to digest/absorb.
At around the 4:00 mark, San Millan mentions that people can “lose mitochondria” from inactivity. Can someone point me to a paper or a video that talks about this? I am interested in the rate of loss, how soon the loss begins, of the loss is linear, and where it eventually levels out. I’m also interested in the physiological process by which the loss happens. Thanks.
Keep in mind that when Dr. Milan talks about the effect of carbohydrate consumption on “unhealthy” individuals, he’s talking about roughly 9 out of 10 of Americans.
Super interesting talk and a great guest to bring on. At about 1:20 in Inego talks about 2 athletes with identical V02 max but one can generate 350w with 8mmol lactate and the other 3 or 4 meaning still in the Z2 practically. For sure the 3-4mmol athlete will win a long race etc but was this difference at the cellular level exposing differences in genes or was the the athlete with 3-4mmol @ 350w just training in a different way to the other guy??
I wonder of a person's normal walking speed is correlated to mitochondrial health (and number). Supposedly there is a positive correlation between normal walking speed and longevity/health. I suppose though that a faster normal speed would not be maintained if one is sedentary for a long time.
Yes because our body is designed to move. Walk most of the time in a day. Walking = blood flow = blood flow = everything in the body works better. Our body is not designed to sit on the ass 12 hours a day like so many people today do..
Inigo San Millan stated that "if you don't have good functioning mitochondria and if you have carbohydrates, that's bad." According to a 2022 study from the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy, only 7% of the U.S. adult population have good cardiometabolic health, so carbohydrates are contraindicated for the vast majority.
I do not think that this “Puts to rest the notion that carbs or glucose are inherently bad for metabolic health”??? The carbs discussed when referring to the tribes are in no way similar to the carbs that people eat today in our “western or civilized” diets. How does this reconcile with newer science that clearly shows a direct link with heart disease to insulin resistance? Literally every patient on a heart surgeons operating table has arterial plaque & inflammation due to diabetes or smoking. Many people who reduce their carb intake end up with vastly improving bio markers including reducing or stabilizing CAC scores and reducing arterial inflammation and dramatically improving insulin sensitivity & metabolic health. Current thinking is that perhaps up to 90% of people in civilized countries have diabetes, mostly undiagnosed. Certainly some people have great metabolic function and can eat and utilize carbs without issue, but this is not the norm, as you can readily see just by looking around. Ultra processed seed oils and sugars are wreaking havoc on the vast majority of people, who cannot metabolize these efficiently. I guess Dr Milan does say this, but it appears that perhaps far fewer people have proper insulin response than current thinking. This being the case, then carbs are actually not great for the vast majority of people, even endurance athletes, who are showing to more and more have heart disease, likely due to a lifetime of smashing high carb sugar gels and drinks. I am one of them…..
@@pjbeattie1 from my understanding, they’re saying the lack of movement and exercise is the problem, not the type of sugar, which causes diabetes and other diseases.
it depends what carbs your eating , the vast majority of people eat the wrong carbs , and given that you say you smashed gels and sugar drinks you are probs one of them , i also find that these people do not want to hear what carbs we should or should not be eating , i was one of them until i saw the light. Also the Hadza people are not good examples in my opinion try looking elswhere like the Hunza peoples/tribes
Unfortunately we do not have access to the type of carbohydrates that the Haida eat. Even our “good” carbohydrates are highly engineered and far of being healthy.
@@ilanabiri9153 many countries with solid athletes and long lifespans eat yams/ and different varieties of sweet potatoes. It's a high quality carbohydrate that's readily available.
Given they are a primitive society on what basis was this established and what are the causes of what would be very premature deaths in our terms and what is their general health compared to other populations till they die? The devil is so often in the details
yes they have very high infant mortality (~21%)due to harsh living conditions and no medical technology which drastically drags down overall life expectancy. When rel .minor cuts and injuries get infected it's often fatal. But generally if they make it to 18 they quite often make it to 60, so there is still many older adult Hadza around to test how their lifestyles and diet affect their relative mitochondrial efficiency and metabolic health as older adults.
I eat white bread every day and my Hb1C is at the bottom of the reference range. blanket statements without context are useless. I train between 10 and 12 hrs per week, a mix of running cycling and weightlifting, my body can well use the carbs.
Not the biggest fan of white bread, but I too see it as an essential part of my fueling to sustain the workouts I need to complete. Similarly, structured workouts on the trainer and long distance z2 rides outdoors, paired with lifting as a supplementary exercise in the side. White break absolutely ain’t going to do anything bad unless I eat in excess over what my body needs
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It would be so helpful to distinguish between carbohydrates that are good for you such as fiber and resistant starches and refined carbs such as sugar and flour that are bad for you. This needs to be stated every-time the term carbohydrate is used. In my mind this is a never ending source of confusion about nutrition.
key takeway, we are designed to move and degenerate when we dont
The main carb that the Hadza eat is a very fiber dense root that is very high in resistant starch though, not the refined carbs that we eat
This is true, but it doesn’t contradict anything they said. They didn’t recommend that people eat refined carbs. All they claimed is that it goes against the notion that carbohydrates are *inherently* bad, which it does.
So, eat beans. Also high in resistant starch.
@@RiDankulous👍Potatoes also.
@RiDankulous and rice! Sushi is great! You can also just eat the microwaveable bags of rice straight from the bag which is even better because it's not fully cooked so takes longer to digest/absorb.
They also eat berries and honey. I heard they can drink about 1 liter of honey a day while hunting!
At around the 4:00 mark, San Millan mentions that people can “lose mitochondria” from inactivity. Can someone point me to a paper or a video that talks about this? I am interested in the rate of loss, how soon the loss begins, of the loss is linear, and where it eventually levels out. I’m also interested in the physiological process by which the loss happens. Thanks.
@@quengmingmeow ROS
Keep in mind that when Dr. Milan talks about the effect of carbohydrate consumption on “unhealthy” individuals, he’s talking about roughly 9 out of 10 of Americans.
Super interesting talk and a great guest to bring on. At about 1:20 in Inego talks about 2 athletes with identical V02 max but one can generate 350w with 8mmol lactate and the other 3 or 4 meaning still in the Z2 practically. For sure the 3-4mmol athlete will win a long race etc but was this difference at the cellular level exposing differences in genes or was the the athlete with 3-4mmol @ 350w just training in a different way to the other guy??
I wonder of a person's normal walking speed is correlated to mitochondrial health (and number). Supposedly there is a positive correlation between normal walking speed and longevity/health. I suppose though that a faster normal speed would not be maintained if one is sedentary for a long time.
Yes because our body is designed to move. Walk most of the time in a day. Walking = blood flow = blood flow = everything in the body works better. Our body is not designed to sit on the ass 12 hours a day like so many people today do..
@@peterz53 Fat people who start to walk will lose weight and losing weight correlates with increased longevity
Inigo San Millan stated that "if you don't have good functioning mitochondria and if you have carbohydrates, that's bad." According to a 2022 study from the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy, only 7% of the U.S. adult population have good cardiometabolic health, so carbohydrates are contraindicated for the vast majority.
@@RobertWinter2 exactly. The unspoken pandemic
I do not think that this “Puts to rest the notion that carbs or glucose are inherently bad for metabolic health”??? The carbs discussed when referring to the tribes are in no way similar to the carbs that people eat today in our “western or civilized” diets. How does this reconcile with newer science that clearly shows a direct link with heart disease to insulin resistance? Literally every patient on a heart surgeons operating table has arterial plaque & inflammation due to diabetes or smoking. Many people who reduce their carb intake end up with vastly improving bio markers including reducing or stabilizing CAC scores and reducing arterial inflammation and dramatically improving insulin sensitivity & metabolic health. Current thinking is that perhaps up to 90% of people in civilized countries have diabetes, mostly undiagnosed. Certainly some people have great metabolic function and can eat and utilize carbs without issue, but this is not the norm, as you can readily see just by looking around. Ultra processed seed oils and sugars are wreaking havoc on the vast majority of people, who cannot metabolize these efficiently. I guess Dr Milan does say this, but it appears that perhaps far fewer people have proper insulin response than current thinking. This being the case, then carbs are actually not great for the vast majority of people, even endurance athletes, who are showing to more and more have heart disease, likely due to a lifetime of smashing high carb sugar gels and drinks. I am one of them…..
@@pjbeattie1 from my understanding, they’re saying the lack of movement and exercise is the problem, not the type of sugar, which causes diabetes and other diseases.
it depends what carbs your eating , the vast majority of people eat the wrong carbs , and given that you say you smashed gels and sugar drinks you are probs one of them , i also find that these people do not want to hear what carbs we should or should not be eating , i was one of them until i saw the light. Also the Hadza people are not good examples in my opinion try looking elswhere like the Hunza peoples/tribes
Unfortunately we do not have access to the type of carbohydrates that the Haida eat. Even our “good” carbohydrates are highly engineered and far of being healthy.
@@ilanabiri9153 many countries with solid athletes and long lifespans eat yams/ and different varieties of sweet potatoes. It's a high quality carbohydrate that's readily available.
Maybe not exactly, but what we have is close enough. Things like blueberries and honey are all great.
Good overview, but its still move more to be able to move more... nothing really eye opening or actionable that we weren't already aware of
Takeaway is 150 mins a week or more of zone 2. This is going to improve your cardiorespiratory fitness and mitochondrial health
Great interviewee - thanks!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill pros do nearly double that nearly every day!
Exercising with specificity, training that mitochondrial optimised zone
Hadza life expectancy is below 40 years , so no comparison.
Given they are a primitive society on what basis was this established and what are the causes of what would be very premature deaths in our terms and what is their general health compared to other populations till they die? The devil is so often in the details
yes they have very high infant mortality (~21%)due to harsh living conditions and no medical technology which drastically drags down overall life expectancy. When rel .minor cuts and injuries get infected it's often fatal. But generally if they make it to 18 they quite often make it to 60, so there is still many older adult Hadza around to test how their lifestyles and diet affect their relative mitochondrial efficiency and metabolic health as older adults.
Put the average westerner there and he will not survive 4 weeks. Life expectancy is a very poor indicator of health.
I guarantee you if you eat white bread every day , you are going to have high blood sugar
That would depend on the bread, the amount, when you eat it and how active you are.
@@winstonallen6933 Easily debunked since there are many people who eat white bread every day and don’t have high blood sugar. Stop fear mongering.
I eat white bread every day and my Hb1C is at the bottom of the reference range. blanket statements without context are useless.
I train between 10 and 12 hrs per week, a mix of running cycling and weightlifting, my body can well use the carbs.
Not the biggest fan of white bread, but I too see it as an essential part of my fueling to sustain the workouts I need to complete.
Similarly, structured workouts on the trainer and long distance z2 rides outdoors, paired with lifting as a supplementary exercise in the side. White break absolutely ain’t going to do anything bad unless I eat in excess over what my body needs
What is white bread? I bake bread with organic white bread flour, salt, water, yeast. It is nothing like what you buy in a shop.