Mitch, I just wanted to let you know that your videos talked me into buying a 2022 F150 Raptor. I'd have bought it from you all if you'd been able to get stock. I'd nearly given up, but I lucked into a Code Orange that someone chose not to accept. First time I've ever bought a vehicle with a text message. The verdict is that I love it. It's done what you said it would do. And it's seen the inside of a dealership for exactly three oil changes -- nothing else has gone wrong in two years! Since I haven't done off-roading for my entire life, the truck's ability to help me in rock crawling and rough terrain while I'm learning is a big deal. And I can't get over a Baja-racer truck that's quiet and comfortable on the highway. Who needs the Benz or the Caddy? It's my daily driver, my weekend playtoy, and my long-haul carrier. Next week, I'm making my second trip from Georgia to Utah to explore some more back trails and try some dune running. Just got the dune flag installed. I think I'd enjoy BlueCruise, but the adaptive cruise really helps -- even in Atlanta rush hour traffic. The only complaint I have is the truck is massive, nimble, quick, and selectively loud, facilitating me being a total a-hole on the road. A Code Orange Raptor seems to provoke every testosterone-based life form in a truck. Road rage is tacky so I have to grit my teeth and practice self-restraint. Lead, follow, or get out of the way! 🙂 Ford really does owe you -- thanks and keep up the good work!
You didn’t mention the most obvious distinction: the wide body!! The fenders front and rear are what give the raptor that iconic look. The wide stance is what gives us the wide body. And you’re totally right, it is a totally unique truck with all the points you mentioned. It is like you said, not just a suspension, axel, technology, appearance package added to a F 150. The frame, 5 link independent rear suspension, dual valve live fox shocks, wheels, tires (37s!), not just rear locker but front “locking” axel, wide body, bumpers, tailgate, grill, exhaust, even the high output Ecoboost, seats, steering wheel. It might be basted on the F150. But it is a totally different truck!
Great vid as always. On the red exterior, can you order the Raptor decal/sticker for the side and have installed properly by a dealership, or is it better to do through say a reputable body shop? I want Red, but I’d like Raptor sticker too.
Ford’s biggest advertisement right now for the whole 2024 F150 lineup is it finally having a HUD… a feature that’s been in EVERY competitor truck and been around since the 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass. Chevy threw it in the Corvette back in 1999 and added it to other vehicles in the lineup since. HUDs are such a good feature that 96% of new car buyers who get a car with HUD never buy another car without it. I guarantee Ford has lost at least $500 million over the last 10 years in potential F150 and Mustang buyers just for not having it. Everyone was expecting it in the new gen 2024 Mustang and when Ford didn’t put it in people made RUclips videos pointing it out as a huge discrepancy in the design.
Great video. Thank you for brining up the major flaw with the Raptor, lack of Bluecruise. I completely agree. In fact, this is the only thing that prevented me from buying a Raptor R (instead I bought another equivalent super truck).
It's a Gen 3 Refresh, or Gen 3.5 if that makes it simpler. Many manufacturers, such as ford, do mid life cycle refreshes. A Generation sticks around for 6-8 years, and they to a mid refresh around the 3-4 year mark, to keep buyers interested and to do minor updates and upgrades. Large updates and upgrades are reserved for next gen release.
Awesome video Mitchell keep up the hard work!! Thank you for the RUclips videos they do help me out when it comes to buying me a great truck in the future when I have my very own Family one day.
I think gen 4 will be a direct competitor to the RHO. People are talking hybrid but I don't think that will sell with all the issues powerboost has had. All ford needs to do is give it blue cruise, give the Shelby 525 HP tune, and drop the price to match the RHO. That's it as it keeps it competitive without rethinking the wheel
I heard that the 2024 ranger raptor order banks is closing on the end of the month. That's a great looking F-150. I just got the 2024 ranger lariat in hot pepper metallic. I love the newest generation of ranger. The high performance led headlights are amazing
There is not a better truck in the industry. Agree, it’s not perfect, but it’s the best out of the factory. The suspension is a little too sloshy on road for my liking, but that’s at the cost of off-road performance. Still a great road trip vehicle & overall win for Ford.
I wouldn't mind one but I still have my 2012 F150 3.5 Turbo Eco. that still has a ton of life left in it . The body is still great and the black paint still shines . I love it so I think I will keep as long as it serves me well. Great video.....love the Raptor too !
I wanted black or white, but this red with plenty of black is sharp! I would tint the front row side windows more. I would want the 37 Performance package. A question. Is there a way to increase the max payload without sacrificing the suspension and incredibly smooth highway drive of the Raptor, not necessarily a huge amount but some relevant amount? I'm considering doing some overlanding, not a crazy, heavy full time set up, but a more minimalist approach, yes a pop up tent and some other things, but nowhere near maximizing weight as some do, and I don't want to have it sag in the back end. Regarding Blue Cruise, I'd love it if it was included, but as a subscription, I have zero interest. I do wish I could option the Raptor with the Powerboost. I also wish they offered a luxury interior version, max comfort leather seats and leather surround, massage and such like on the Platinum Plus.
Mitch, how does something like this compare to driving one of the regular trim F150s, like a Powerboost or Ecoboost, etc.? I'd love your take on not just the spec differences, but your experience as someone who's driven both!
Great points! We will start incorporating that into future videos! But to answer your question, the onroad ride quality is significantly better than a normal F-150. The longer travel suspension soaks up speed bumps and potholes much better. The live valve suspension seems to keep the truck planted on road. And it translates into a massive difference Offroad.
It's a gen 3.5. I've owned a 2021 and 2023, code orange and avalanche, and man they are great trucks. Still got the 2023 and daily it every day. Paid 70k for my 2021 brand new, now the prices are near 90k
Not true, also not rumored. You can literally see the pricing on Ford's website. Raptor starts at $78k, with 35" tires. You can then upgrade to Raptor 37 for $11.5k that introduces 37" tires, dual valve shocks, different design exterior, carbon fiber appliques, and leather and suede interior. Then you can go one further to a Raptor R, a $32k addition over base price, which changes even more. A 5.2L V8 engine, dual valve shocks, new exterior design, new interior design exclusive to the Raptor R, more performance, etc. The base Raptor is 450-hp whereas the Raptor R is 720-hp, so definitely a massive boost in performance, albeit for a lot worse mpg.
To me the F150 ended with the 23 model. That multi function tailgate, new ford badge, and amount of tech is just too much. It feels more like a gadget with wheels
I don’t not understand how people can afford these trucks. 80k+ for the regular and $113,000+ for a Raptor R. No way people can afford a 2000+ monthly payment.
To be perfectly honest. Why would anyone want to buy a Prius. For the record every single Toyota model has a recall. Why would anyone want a Toyota, when we all know that Ford makes the best. Isn't the slogan that F-150 are the "Cadillac ' of trucks.
Trash, never buying ford ever again 20+ yr customer here totally done with their bs, looking at 20 yr old chevys w/o all the garbage electronics and not over priced for the common man, henry is rolling is his grave jim
Not seeing how Blue Cruise a center of focus for you is always. I get the whole up sale of a product, but man it is not a focus that needs to be there. Ford is not Tesla...
I totally disagree with you about BlueCruise. I think it's the most annoying feature on a truck. Who wants a nanny cam? 360 Assist 2.0 is way better! I couldn't even listen to you anymore after that statement.
Gen 3 just facelift just like f150 new gen will be 2027 since ford always does a new gen every 6 years. Also they need to lower the price and make a 5.0 raptor in between this and R
@@roynelson3207 how are they are different generation from 21-23? Same engine, same chassis, same suspension (adding second valve), same UI and software. A HUD makes it a new generation?
@@RUclipsuser1aa new front, new rear, new suspension, new interior, new sync, new tech, new options... Gen 2s had 4 years, Gen 3s had 3 years. 24s are gen 4, figure it out
@@roynelson3207 gen 1 to gen 2 saw massive changes in the engine, Gen 2 to Gen 3 was massive changes to coil and 5 link, you’re saying 2024 is a massive change in …. What? It’s a 3.5 facelift
the raptor has a strengthened chassis to cope with jumping and such. Normal trucks cannot cope as their chassis were not designed for this purpose, they aren’t trash just a different class. Same goes for any brand truck
@@ajshapiro1269 😂 my friend I’ve just been having fun responding to your silly comment, I didn’t mean in any way to cause you angst. Please consider our dance concluded. Have a blessed day!
The 3.6 L twin turbo EcoBoost is trash. More moving parts means more problems and build quality these days seems to be an oxymoron. God help you if it has the start-stop function. If you're going to get a Raptor, get a Gen 1 or a Raptor R.
Mitch, I just wanted to let you know that your videos talked me into buying a 2022 F150 Raptor. I'd have bought it from you all if you'd been able to get stock. I'd nearly given up, but I lucked into a Code Orange that someone chose not to accept. First time I've ever bought a vehicle with a text message. The verdict is that I love it. It's done what you said it would do. And it's seen the inside of a dealership for exactly three oil changes -- nothing else has gone wrong in two years!
Since I haven't done off-roading for my entire life, the truck's ability to help me in rock crawling and rough terrain while I'm learning is a big deal. And I can't get over a Baja-racer truck that's quiet and comfortable on the highway. Who needs the Benz or the Caddy? It's my daily driver, my weekend playtoy, and my long-haul carrier. Next week, I'm making my second trip from Georgia to Utah to explore some more back trails and try some dune running. Just got the dune flag installed. I think I'd enjoy BlueCruise, but the adaptive cruise really helps -- even in Atlanta rush hour traffic. The only complaint I have is the truck is massive, nimble, quick, and selectively loud, facilitating me being a total a-hole on the road. A Code Orange Raptor seems to provoke every testosterone-based life form in a truck. Road rage is tacky so I have to grit my teeth and practice self-restraint. Lead, follow, or get out of the way! 🙂
Ford really does owe you -- thanks and keep up the good work!
2024 is still Gen 3. Love my 2023! 🤙🏼
Make the Raptor R video
You've got me sold. . .How do I get one?
You didn’t mention the most obvious distinction: the wide body!! The fenders front and rear are what give the raptor that iconic look. The wide stance is what gives us the wide body. And you’re totally right, it is a totally unique truck with all the points you mentioned. It is like you said, not just a suspension, axel, technology, appearance package added to a F 150.
The frame, 5 link independent rear suspension, dual valve live fox shocks, wheels, tires (37s!), not just rear locker but front “locking” axel, wide body, bumpers, tailgate, grill, exhaust, even the high output Ecoboost, seats, steering wheel. It might be basted on the F150. But it is a totally different truck!
No limited slip or locker up front. Just ABS.
Got my 802 today. Love it couldn’t justify another $60k for the R.
The R is great for real dune running but pretty much a flex.
If you’re gonna spend 12k more for the 802, you might as well go all in and get the R.
It’s missing the 2021 raptor price.
😂😂😂😂😂
One...million.....dollars......$$$
I’m on my 4th Raptor. Now own a Gen3 2022. Was very tempted to trade for Braptor. What stopped me was no cooled seats.
LOVE YOUR VIDS!!!
DEFINITELY A RAPTOR R VID👍👍
So u made me buy a lariat and then a raptor 37 ... now im getting this ":D
Gen 3 and 4 look really good but my favorite look is gen 2
Yea, and I feel like the new tundra took a lot of inspiration from the gen2.
There's no 4th gen raptor....
Yes, raptor R video!
Great vid as always. On the red exterior, can you order the Raptor decal/sticker for the side and have installed properly by a dealership, or is it better to do through say a reputable body shop? I want Red, but I’d like Raptor sticker too.
Ford’s biggest advertisement right now for the whole 2024 F150 lineup is it finally having a HUD… a feature that’s been in EVERY competitor truck and been around since the 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass. Chevy threw it in the Corvette back in 1999 and added it to other vehicles in the lineup since. HUDs are such a good feature that 96% of new car buyers who get a car with HUD never buy another car without it. I guarantee Ford has lost at least $500 million over the last 10 years in potential F150 and Mustang buyers just for not having it. Everyone was expecting it in the new gen 2024 Mustang and when Ford didn’t put it in people made RUclips videos pointing it out as a huge discrepancy in the design.
Great video. Thank you for brining up the major flaw with the Raptor, lack of Bluecruise. I completely agree. In fact, this is the only thing that prevented me from buying a Raptor R (instead I bought another equivalent super truck).
It's a Gen 3 Refresh, or Gen 3.5 if that makes it simpler. Many manufacturers, such as ford, do mid life cycle refreshes. A Generation sticks around for 6-8 years, and they to a mid refresh around the 3-4 year mark, to keep buyers interested and to do minor updates and upgrades. Large updates and upgrades are reserved for next gen release.
Fun to watch 😂 owned already😜🎉 0:44
New Cam phasers on my GEN2 - the replacements were Gen3.
Awesome video Mitchell keep up the hard work!! Thank you for the RUclips videos they do help me out when it comes to buying me a great truck in the future when I have my very own Family one day.
I think gen 4 will be a direct competitor to the RHO. People are talking hybrid but I don't think that will sell with all the issues powerboost has had. All ford needs to do is give it blue cruise, give the Shelby 525 HP tune, and drop the price to match the RHO. That's it as it keeps it competitive without rethinking the wheel
Now that is finally a look I love- the lack of all the "raptor" logos is a total win for me
Decal delete
Makes it clean
I heard that the 2024 ranger raptor order banks is closing on the end of the month. That's a great looking F-150. I just got the 2024 ranger lariat in hot pepper metallic. I love the newest generation of ranger. The high performance led headlights are amazing
Awesome bro........ Greetings from india🇮🇳🤠🤠🤩🤩🙌
Yes make a raptor r video please!!!🙏🏻
Let me get with Scotty Kilmer on that EcoBoost motor.
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@@CORaptorguy4 YT him, if you don't know who he is
There is not a better truck in the industry. Agree, it’s not perfect, but it’s the best out of the factory.
The suspension is a little too sloshy on road for my liking, but that’s at the cost of off-road performance. Still a great road trip vehicle & overall win for Ford.
I wouldn't mind one but I still have my 2012 F150 3.5 Turbo Eco. that still has a ton of life left in it . The body is still great and the black paint still shines . I love it so I think I will keep as long as it serves me well. Great video.....love the Raptor too !
More coffee must watch
Please make the video for the 803A Equipment Group, I really wanna see it in Action!
Can you do a video on the King Rancher Expedition?
I wanted black or white, but this red with plenty of black is sharp! I would tint the front row side windows more. I would want the 37 Performance package. A question. Is there a way to increase the max payload without sacrificing the suspension and incredibly smooth highway drive of the Raptor, not necessarily a huge amount but some relevant amount? I'm considering doing some overlanding, not a crazy, heavy full time set up, but a more minimalist approach, yes a pop up tent and some other things, but nowhere near maximizing weight as some do, and I don't want to have it sag in the back end. Regarding Blue Cruise, I'd love it if it was included, but as a subscription, I have zero interest. I do wish I could option the Raptor with the Powerboost. I also wish they offered a luxury interior version, max comfort leather seats and leather surround, massage and such like on the Platinum Plus.
Mitch, how does something like this compare to driving one of the regular trim F150s, like a Powerboost or Ecoboost, etc.? I'd love your take on not just the spec differences, but your experience as someone who's driven both!
Great points! We will start incorporating that into future videos! But to answer your question, the onroad ride quality is significantly better than a normal F-150. The longer travel suspension soaks up speed bumps and potholes much better. The live valve suspension seems to keep the truck planted on road. And it translates into a massive difference Offroad.
Got a 23 37p I went and test drove the new 37 I just can’t get over the new headlights , the 21-23 were perfect also not a big fan of the new 37 beads
Love mine!!
Is it a v6 or v8 I keep getting varying results online
@@ChampionMasterFlameI bought the V6. V8 was just a touch more than I wanted to spend. So far the truck has been nothing but perfect. 👌
@@scottbraden14 I heard some people say the v8 is worse for the raptor compared to the v6 could you give me the exact model of yours pleade
@@ChampionMasterFlame 2024 801A Raptor V6
Does the HUD show navigation?
Yes, it gives me when I’m supposed to turn next (including distance). I love the HUD and worth getting a ‘24 vs older gen 3.
Still rolling the Gen 1 with 37's.
because all the redesigned to me it is gen 4, but that it just me. make Raptor R video! please
It's a gen 3.5. I've owned a 2021 and 2023, code orange and avalanche, and man they are great trucks. Still got the 2023 and daily it every day. Paid 70k for my 2021 brand new, now the prices are near 90k
24s are gen4
@@roynelson3207 definitely not lol
@@stoppardstop yep. Everything is calling them Gen 4 including Ford
@roynelson3207 ford is not calling them Gen 4s. Call ford performance and ask them if 2024 is a gen4
@@stoppardstop I did...
I’m not driving a frigging 4 door anything. Why did they do away with raptor supercabs?
Still waiting for the modular bumper info you said you were gonna talk about…
how is it in tight spaces or mall parking spaces . is it anointing ?
Nice review. I have to mention your voice sounds slightly muffled.
I think it’s a refreshed gen 3
Yall selling that beauty? 👀
2024 150raptor is watt？5 link？🤨02:33
MAKE A RAPTOR R VIDEO PLEASE!!!!!
That truck takes a speed limit sign as a suggestion.
80 grand + and still don't even get wheel well liners...
Can you buy this truck at invoice if so my husband would like to buy it
Take off the moon roof and the engine block heater. How $
Note to FORD-
AWESOME RAPTORS,,,
BUT TOWING CAPABLE,,,
So we can pay for a 90k plus vehicle...
Not a criticism,,, a fact😉
Charge 25k for the wheels tires and suspension is what I heard 😂
Not true, also not rumored. You can literally see the pricing on Ford's website. Raptor starts at $78k, with 35" tires. You can then upgrade to Raptor 37 for $11.5k that introduces 37" tires, dual valve shocks, different design exterior, carbon fiber appliques, and leather and suede interior.
Then you can go one further to a Raptor R, a $32k addition over base price, which changes even more. A 5.2L V8 engine, dual valve shocks, new exterior design, new interior design exclusive to the Raptor R, more performance, etc. The base Raptor is 450-hp whereas the Raptor R is 720-hp, so definitely a massive boost in performance, albeit for a lot worse mpg.
But what are you really getting over a lariat besides wheels & tires (~$3k), suspension (~$3k), widebody (you can get over fenders for
To me the F150 ended with the 23 model. That multi function tailgate, new ford badge, and amount of tech is just too much. It feels more like a gadget with wheels
Uh it’s the same damn truck as the 23.
A badge means it’s not an f150 now?
@@RUclipsuser1aa learn to read the whole statement before acting ignorant next time bubba
@@mav4516 it’s the same truck as the 23. How can you say the 23 was the last f150 when the 24 is literally 98% the same lol
7:51 tremor has these
gen3.5
Why is there no engine options.
I’m old school and love the sound of a v8. Just my opinion but ford needs to offer the v8 as an option
They have raptor R, 30 k upgrade for V8
@ yes I know about that. But most people can’t afford that.
I’m just saying a NA 5.0 or 7.3 would be a nice option
I don’t not understand how people can afford these trucks. 80k+ for the regular and $113,000+ for a Raptor R. No way people can afford a 2000+ monthly payment.
There are people making 6 figures+ a year so yes there are.
To be perfectly honest. Why would anyone want to buy a Prius. For the record every single Toyota model has a recall. Why would anyone want a Toyota, when we all know that Ford makes the best. Isn't the slogan that F-150 are the "Cadillac ' of trucks.
Does anyone's sun roof rattle?
I've had 2 (21 and 23) and no rattles. My 2018 rattled
No
Trash, never buying ford ever again 20+ yr customer here totally done with their bs, looking at 20 yr old chevys w/o all the garbage electronics and not over priced for the common man, henry is rolling is his grave jim
Not seeing how Blue Cruise a center of focus for you is always. I get the whole up sale of a product, but man it is not a focus that needs to be there. Ford is not Tesla...
Paying V8 pricing for a stupid 6 cyl and overpaying for the V8 model truck is far from perfect. Its ridiculously stupid.
no front locker on 100k truck. Talk about cheaping out.
As in OVERPRICED!
How much should it cost?
Don't care for a turbo, I would rather have a proven V8.
I totally disagree with you about BlueCruise. I think it's the most annoying feature on a truck. Who wants a nanny cam? 360 Assist 2.0 is way better!
I couldn't even listen to you anymore after that statement.
Gen 3 just facelift just like f150 new gen will be 2027 since ford always does a new gen every 6 years. Also they need to lower the price and make a 5.0 raptor in between this and R
Almost perfect true it needs a coyote no v6s not you can't get KR or platinum with coyote 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I have a 24 Raptor, and while its more powerful on paper, my 21 F150 with 5.0 had better low end torque. I really do wish the coyote came in these
@@mm64e50 so you think your 5.0 had more low end torque than the 3.5 EB?…lol
Seeing them take the 5.0 from the KR was an absolute Tragedy
@@mav4516 yeah I own a 18 platinum with 5.0 wouldn't trade it for no v6 no matter what plus coyotes get better mpg in real world vs those v6 ecoboost
@@ryanmason9241yeah he’s on drugs lmao
This is still just a gen3, mid cycle refresh is just that. But it’s still a bad engine for a stupid price so it’s all moot anyway.
That thing just looks like a regular f150 now. So watered down
This is a facelift of the gen 3
24s are gen4
@@roynelson3207 how are they are different generation from 21-23?
Same engine, same chassis, same suspension (adding second valve), same UI and software.
A HUD makes it a new generation?
@@RUclipsuser1aa new front, new rear, new suspension, new interior, new sync, new tech, new options... Gen 2s had 4 years, Gen 3s had 3 years. 24s are gen 4, figure it out
@@roynelson3207 new front, new rear? What are you talking about? The grill and headlight? Lol
@@roynelson3207 gen 1 to gen 2 saw massive changes in the engine, Gen 2 to Gen 3 was massive changes to coil and 5 link, you’re saying 2024 is a massive change in …. What?
It’s a 3.5 facelift
it needs a coyote with a whipple
My raptor has better autopilot that the 21 bmw I just came out of
Alaskimo❤😊😂😅🎉
Really! Go buy a Prius? Why not a Mach e?
😂 true!!!
Q cuma vdest
Perfect if you could a the 5.0 in it.... that v6 sounds like a 💩
Gen 1.4
👍🤝
So the other F150s have trash frames?? 😂😂😂
the raptor has a strengthened chassis to cope with jumping and such. Normal trucks cannot cope as their chassis were not designed for this purpose, they aren’t trash just a different class. Same goes for any brand truck
@@curtis4925 no you’re right they have weak frames or poorly engineered
@@WesNorton-xd1lnis that why ram and gm trucks frames bend and not ford? Troll on
All you are wrong, they just don’t have the “strong back bone.”
@@freedomisntfree_44ignorant should not comment. Bend is better than break. Ford frames are literally 20th century design.
A 6-banger in a full-size truck... for THAT money? 😂 No, thanks.
Seriously, and no laser weapons or rocket launchers either!! What’s Ford thinking? 🙄
@@MikeKilo1969 If only you'd made it on that sophomore debate team, you'd be killing it.
@@ajshapiro1269 I know right? Silly me for missing the opportunity to challenge the arguments and assertions of others for a grade!
@@MikeKilo1969 You've been paid as much attention as you deserve. Everything beyond that would be a waste of time.
@@ajshapiro1269 😂 my friend I’ve just been having fun responding to your silly comment, I didn’t mean in any way to cause you angst. Please consider our dance concluded. Have a blessed day!
Cam Phasers still junk.
2023 model looks much better.
Where's the V8
It's in the Raptor R
150 k with markups
@@justinstiff5641 and that's the problem!
@@hunterrock3272 Agreed 👍
plz gym
The 3.6 L twin turbo EcoBoost is trash. More moving parts means more problems and build quality these days seems to be an oxymoron. God help you if it has the start-stop function. If you're going to get a Raptor, get a Gen 1 or a Raptor R.
This truck is a scam.
Why?