Alright guys, this time I'll drop you off a comment =) I am immensely happy to see how much Steven has gotten back in the game. For a long time Tim was the only one who knew what was going on in Netrunner, but now I see that after the anatomy success Steven is really understanding the meta and can make really accurate assessments of the cards. For example Quetzal's playstyle, what type of runner decks are winning now (constant pressure) Thumbs up (y) :) I was usually watching your vids just for some random card connection, which might have eluded me ... but now when Steven has really stepped up the game, the vids are a lot more interesting for me :) Keep up the good work and stay on the Netrunner path ;)
A point about Order of Sol that you might have missed: You can proc it in the Corp's turn by either using PW, or simply by insisting on being broke by the end of your own turn. Used well, it's a free 2 credits per turn engine. I've been toying with it on a Hardware Nasir deck and I'm really surprised by how well it works.
28:45-28:52.....Zach had SOOOOO many jokes to make about "playing the ladies", but he was so pro, and just kept on going, head down and making sure he missed that golden opportunity, Bravo! Sort of...
I run an Nasir deck that uses the Motivation + Oracle may engine. Knowing what was on the top of my deck, I was able to Eureka-out a Rachel Beckman. Instant eternal glory 5ever! Also, Order of Sol + Personal Workshop is silly-squared.
Hades Shard has won me every game since I put it in my deck. My deck is exceedingly geared for this, Iain Sterling: R.E.D. (Keyhole). I wait to drop till I can win then drop trash. I can't show it till the drop win. It cause preemptive Jackson.
Also just to give you some feedback on the Stealth Decks. I've made a Nasir Stealth Deck and after some serious testing I can say that is almost there. Just recurring credits, no "sustain econ" and the stealth breakers. Toolbox + Net Celebrity + Aesop + Cache + Ghost Runner + Lockpick + 2x Sillencer + 3x Cloak and for breaker Dagger, Blackcat and Refractor. and Personal Workshop of course The deck is bonkers because you can enter a server consisting of Vitkro 2.0 , Eli , Eli Ichi 2.0 , Viktor 2.0 with about 0 to 1-2 credits in your pool ( if u have most of your rig done). The only problem is that because of the nature of the recurring credits, you can do that only one per turn. But when you think about it, with a normal rig you would be paying 20-30c most likely anyway, so that is even worse. The only Problem for this deck is Sea-source + Scorch earth and heavy Asset Econ (which NEH is mostly guilty of). And currently the only runner who can run this Is Nasir, because he is the only one who can spit out the rig fast enough through personal workshop and constant running. I am gonna try a modified version with Replicator, so u can spit all of the stealth hardware, because all of them cost 1c ... but that needs testing :) Anyway, just giving u some feedback. P.s. Also yeah, Running 2x Personal touch in the deck to pump the Blackcat to 4 ... Going through Eli for 1 stealth credit (recuring ) = GG :)
Isn't Blackcat the same as Corroder credit-wise to break Eli without stealth. Seems better with datasucker or shaper breaker strength increase cards. Blackcat feels like a Nasir card if he wants to try and go for 3 stealth breakers. Duggars is great to catch your board state up mid game or yeah grab a game winning combo. Box E really helps make this better. Box E is great for Stimhack players. Anarchs really have an interesting card pool growing.
Ice Carver + BlacKat lets it break Eli 1.0 for 'free' with a Dyson Fractal credit. I base all my runner decks on easily breaking Eli. It's good. It's actually somewhat consistent if you run Datasuckers and/or Ice Carver.
Coud not agree with Stephen more about Quetzal. Out of that Anatomy deck (which I've run a bunch of out of Whizzard), I think she provides unrivalled early pressure. With, say, Mimic and Datasuckers she can get everywhere so cheaply. E3, like it was with Overmind, I reckon is a red herring. I think MAYBE Whizzard is still a little stronger in that deck because of the preponderance of assets out of NEH, but I'd have to test some more. I mean, what do those NEH decks run? Eli and Wraparound. With her, you can even click through double stacked Eli, or a single Knight to get through 2 Wraparounds.
I emailed ffg about wendigo when the pack first came out. The reply I got from lukas says: "Joseph, Thanks for the question. “Use” applies to anything that the Runner can choose to trigger (not mandatory actions). Hope that helps," So in the case of medium and nerve agent, you get the token (it says place a token, not you may place a token) and I think access additional cards as it seems the additional accesses are worded as a constant effect. Clearly this was card was designed to nerf the clearly overpowered and meta definining card Expert schedule analyzer as it's the only program paid ability run card that is also a triggered ability when successful and thus affected by wendigo.
Mário Ladeia Liberato de Matos On the way. X-Wing in particular takes time to polish, and we're improving the HUD this time around to make it even better.
Awww was a little disappointed with the assessment of Port Anson Grid, gotta think of the asset mind game as well. Runner starts in a server with any unrezzed ICE and an unknown pair of cards in the server, Rez Anson, does the runner want to continue? What about using Mushin No Shin and putting an Anson with it? Sure the runner shouldn't run anything he's not willing to check, but there are plenty of situations where they are forced to check something. What would you do as the runner if an Anson was rezzed into a 3 advanced card, still gonna look at it?
***** Hmmm... www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-card-spoilers/_/the-spin-cycle/mala-tempora/city-surveillance-mala-tempora Well that took a creepy turn, but I'll take it.
Wendigo has the potential to ruin Yog's day. I've thrown Wendigo into a Postmodern deck and it's been a really great addition. Not as good as Blue Sun is going to be, but still. Also Chronos Project replaced False Lead, and Shattered Remains replaced Snare (Love the ability to advance a trap, and nuke a plascrete if it exists) in my Postmodern deck. I'd like to know your thoughts on the one downside of Grail ice that I've seen. If you don't have something to increase your hand size, you're sitting on two cards in your hand at all times just for that Grail ice. That crowds the HELL out of your hand. In my experience so far it hasn't been worth it.
Crisium Grid might make Feint a thing. Bypass 2 ICE, still get to access because the run's not considered successful, trash Crisium Grid and access HQ.
Alright guys, this time I'll drop you off a comment =)
I am immensely happy to see how much Steven has gotten back in the game. For a long time Tim was the only one who knew what was going on in Netrunner, but now I see that after the anatomy success Steven is really understanding the meta and can make really accurate assessments of the cards. For example Quetzal's playstyle, what type of runner decks are winning now (constant pressure) Thumbs up (y) :)
I was usually watching your vids just for some random card connection, which might have eluded me ... but now when Steven has really stepped up the game, the vids are a lot more interesting for me :)
Keep up the good work and stay on the Netrunner path ;)
A point about Order of Sol that you might have missed: You can proc it in the Corp's turn by either using PW, or simply by insisting on being broke by the end of your own turn.
Used well, it's a free 2 credits per turn engine. I've been toying with it on a Hardware Nasir deck and I'm really surprised by how well it works.
ASteelNeuron Thanks for mentioning! Yeah, that consideration makes it much better. Is it enough though?
Steven just walked in and proclaimed "Guys, I was so wrong about BlacKat. So, so very wrong."
Great video! Let's not underestimate Crisium Grid though. Account Siphon counter? Yes please!
Account Syphon, Keyhole, Medium, oh my!
ahahahh i laughed my ass off at 3:49. I dont get how you guys remained so calm
The Dota comment was hilarious
"I was saying Boo-erns!" 17:58 hahahah
Lol at 45:55 how the exchange abruptly ends when tim tells zach to " keep going" was a lil awkward haha.
28:45-28:52.....Zach had SOOOOO many jokes to make about "playing the ladies", but he was so pro, and just kept on going, head down and making sure he missed that golden opportunity, Bravo! Sort of...
Peacelord2002 It's turning a new leaf for sure.
I run an Nasir deck that uses the Motivation + Oracle may engine. Knowing what was on the top of my deck, I was able to Eureka-out a Rachel Beckman. Instant eternal glory 5ever! Also, Order of Sol + Personal Workshop is silly-squared.
Noise Keyhole? Try Ian Stirling, Logos, Keyhole, Hades Shard with a ProCo. Guy at my FLGS runs that and is quite devistating.
Hades Shard has won me every game since I put it in my deck. My deck is exceedingly geared for this, Iain Sterling: R.E.D. (Keyhole). I wait to drop till I can win then drop trash. I can't show it till the drop win. It cause preemptive Jackson.
Cerebral Imaging + IQ + Panic Button seems like a good combo. Rez IQ then bump it's strength?
Also just to give you some feedback on the Stealth Decks. I've made a Nasir Stealth Deck and after some serious testing I can say that is almost there.
Just recurring credits, no "sustain econ" and the stealth breakers. Toolbox + Net Celebrity + Aesop + Cache + Ghost Runner + Lockpick + 2x Sillencer + 3x Cloak and for breaker Dagger, Blackcat and Refractor. and Personal Workshop of course
The deck is bonkers because you can enter a server consisting of Vitkro 2.0 , Eli , Eli Ichi 2.0 , Viktor 2.0 with about 0 to 1-2 credits in your pool ( if u have most of your rig done).
The only problem is that because of the nature of the recurring credits, you can do that only one per turn. But when you think about it, with a normal rig you would be paying 20-30c most likely anyway, so that is even worse.
The only Problem for this deck is Sea-source + Scorch earth and heavy Asset Econ (which NEH is mostly guilty of). And currently the only runner who can run this Is Nasir, because he is the only one who can spit out the rig fast enough through personal workshop and constant running.
I am gonna try a modified version with Replicator, so u can spit all of the stealth hardware, because all of them cost 1c ... but that needs testing :)
Anyway, just giving u some feedback.
P.s. Also yeah, Running 2x Personal touch in the deck to pump the Blackcat to 4 ... Going through Eli for 1 stealth credit (recuring ) = GG :)
QuantaKill It seems that Eli is really getting handled, between Quetzal and Blackat. Personal Touch falls prey to Will'O. The dance continues!
Still yet to see a Will'O deck that works and that upgrade doesn't get trashed during a random HQ or R&D access :D
Isn't Blackcat the same as Corroder credit-wise to break Eli without stealth. Seems better with datasucker or shaper breaker strength increase cards. Blackcat feels like a Nasir card if he wants to try and go for 3 stealth breakers. Duggars is great to catch your board state up mid game or yeah grab a game winning combo. Box E really helps make this better. Box E is great for Stimhack players. Anarchs really have an interesting card pool growing.
that new criminal runner is Leela Patel. Some kind of ability where the corp must return an unrezzed card to HQ
I can't believe it... As if Team Covenant's videos weren't awesome enough they reference boxty. Cha cha cha cha, delicious
Those beards aren't just for show!
Shattered Remains plays well with Toshiyuki Sakai
Ice Carver + BlacKat lets it break Eli 1.0 for 'free' with a Dyson Fractal credit.
I base all my runner decks on easily breaking Eli. It's good. It's actually somewhat consistent if you run Datasuckers and/or Ice Carver.
put IQ on HQ with panic button
Coud not agree with Stephen more about Quetzal. Out of that Anatomy deck (which I've run a bunch of out of Whizzard), I think she provides unrivalled early pressure. With, say, Mimic and Datasuckers she can get everywhere so cheaply. E3, like it was with Overmind, I reckon is a red herring. I think MAYBE Whizzard is still a little stronger in that deck because of the preponderance of assets out of NEH, but I'd have to test some more. I mean, what do those NEH decks run? Eli and Wraparound. With her, you can even click through double stacked Eli, or a single Knight to get through 2 Wraparounds.
I emailed ffg about wendigo when the pack first came out. The reply I got from lukas says:
"Joseph,
Thanks for the question. “Use” applies to anything that the Runner can choose to trigger (not mandatory actions). Hope that helps,"
So in the case of medium and nerve agent, you get the token (it says place a token, not you may place a token) and I think access additional cards as it seems the additional accesses are worded as a constant effect.
Clearly this was card was designed to nerf the clearly overpowered and meta definining card Expert schedule analyzer as it's the only program paid ability run card that is also a triggered ability when successful and thus affected by wendigo.
Joseph Lindsay Haha, or perhaps icebreakers :)Thanks for the clarification!
Where are the x-wings finals videos at gencon 2014?
Mário Ladeia Liberato de Matos On the way. X-Wing in particular takes time to polish, and we're improving the HUD this time around to make it even better.
Thanks!
Awww was a little disappointed with the assessment of Port Anson Grid, gotta think of the asset mind game as well. Runner starts in a server with any unrezzed ICE and an unknown pair of cards in the server, Rez Anson, does the runner want to continue? What about using Mushin No Shin and putting an Anson with it? Sure the runner shouldn't run anything he's not willing to check, but there are plenty of situations where they are forced to check something. What would you do as the runner if an Anson was rezzed into a 3 advanced card, still gonna look at it?
Kitsune --> Shi-Kyu in MedTech?
where's the quetzal? that's the surprise!
box-e on professor?
I think you guys may be underestimating BlacKat. Other than that, good stuff as always!
P.S. You guys seemed more ribald than usual :)
Rebazar We may well have! It's such a hard evaluation against Corroder until Stealth becomes a really prevalent thing.
Levy University is the other Ritzy card that I can think of.
Well now we're much more interested in attending...
OMG! Team Covenant REPLIED TO MY POST! AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaah! You guys are, like, Netrunner Superstars! AAAaaaaAAAAHHHH!
Chuck Porter We've been following you closely Chuck. We've known you since you were born.
It's great to finally make contact.
***** Hmmm... www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-card-spoilers/_/the-spin-cycle/mala-tempora/city-surveillance-mala-tempora
Well that took a creepy turn, but I'll take it.
Wendigo has the potential to ruin Yog's day. I've thrown Wendigo into a Postmodern deck and it's been a really great addition.
Not as good as Blue Sun is going to be, but still.
Also Chronos Project replaced False Lead, and Shattered Remains replaced Snare (Love the ability to advance a trap, and nuke a plascrete if it exists) in my Postmodern deck.
I'd like to know your thoughts on the one downside of Grail ice that I've seen. If you don't have something to increase your hand size, you're sitting on two cards in your hand at all times just for that Grail ice. That crowds the HELL out of your hand. In my experience so far it hasn't been worth it.
Jason Heilig Maybe it's time for Grail in The World is Yours*?
What song/sound is this at the end of every video?
FranzBinder20 It is an in-house composition!
Crisium Grid might make Feint a thing. Bypass 2 ICE, still get to access because the run's not considered successful, trash Crisium Grid and access HQ.