I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Fischl. I try to play Yae. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Raiden. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Kuki. My Fischl deals more damage. I want to play Keqing. Her best team has Fishl. I want to play taser, quickbloom. They both want Fischl. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the stringless. She isn't satisfied. I give her Aqua Simulacra. "I don't need this HP%" She tells me. "Give me Golden troupe." She grabs Kazuha and forces him to swirl electro. "You just need to give Oz full uptime. I can deal more damage with thundering pulse". I can't pull for thundering pulse, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Oz. She says "Oz, reveal thyself" There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd electro application. What a cruel world.
can you explain what stunlock actually means? from what i saw it's when a streamer gets mad and starts ranting about someone else's opinion. idk if that's the real definition :')
Faruzan us really the only character than I think is broken/good but only at c6. Every other good character is typically good/broken at c0 and insane at c6.
She literally is not. Yae has better stats and scalings, she just deals more damage. Fischl is a battery+applicator with low field time but her damage is way worse than yae at c0-c5. C6 fischl is better though.@@ladderlappen4585
The problem here is that Yae can be better or worse than Fischl depending on how hard you whale for her, so different people is going to have different experiences on the matter. It's the same thing with Xingqiu vs Yelan.
@None38389 but that's pointless then, a 5 star with constellations(specially c6)is always better than a 4 star with a similar role because of how gacha games work. In most scenarios for the majority of people, it's more accurate to compare them to c0 5 stars. If you want to compare them with constellations, you should do it with each constellation
I think a lot of people under estimate Fischl's damage output due to her often being run with another electro on fielder, leading to it being slightly more difficult to see who is doing the damage. It is kind of hard to keep track when your screen is full of purple numbers. While there are cases where you'd want to use another electro character instead, over all she is the best electro unit in the game.
People care less about damage, when you don't actually play characters. People don't like playing Fischl, because you does not play Fischl. You put Oz and goodbye. At least Yae has some gameplay.
@@timkalierYae has gameplay and still has comparable damage to a 4*. As Zyox mentioned, Fischl allows you to play your favourite unit on-field. If I pulled Yae my account would barely benefit, maybe my Tighnari but that's it.
As far as I know the only time Yae is better than Fischl is on Spread teams, which is mainly Alhaitham and Tighnari. The reason is Spread is a dendro reaction, not an electro one, which means Fischl won't trigger her A4 which causes her damage to tank
Yeah they 're like Yelan and xingqiu one does more Dmg and the other one is more versatile but paired together they're strong and apply a lot of electro
Yae Miko (Japanese: 八や重え神み子こ Yae Miko), also known as Guuji Yae (Japanese: 宮ぐう司じ Guuji) or the Guuji, is a playable Electro character in Genshin Impact. A kitsune of many facets, Yae Miko oversees the Grand Narukami Shrine, owns the Yae Publishing House, and is worse than Fischl.
Fischl damage is single target and there's many stronger single target teams in the game than her aggravate or any of her teams and in AoE she's straight up bad , if clorinde isn't better that means she's B tier lol
@@kingdoom5022 Not really, not that are free also, she's often pairs as a support or with an Anemo which increases her value for AoE. Fischl is just free energy and dmg. Anyone who thinks Fischl isn't S tier is either dumb or a whale ong.
ok I'm gonna stunlock myself for a moment and say that we should not compare C0 five stars to C6 four stars. The average price for a C0 five star at 0 pity is around 95 wishes and 240 wishes for a C6 four star on a rate up banner (according to tenten OPPA). That's just average, five stars have pity and guarantees so it could be as low as a 10-pull to get them once their banner starts. Meanwhile you can't do anything to reduce the amount of wishes needed for four stars except get extremely lucky. And I do mean extremely because the four stars are competing with two other banner rate ups meanwhile the five stars are only competing with one. And no, fischl being a 1.0 character that's on the monthly shop doesn't matter, because first, not everyone has been playing since 1.0 and have seen as many good banners with fischl on them because as new characters get added the amount of good banners to pull on gets diluted. Especially when everyone is saying "just pull for who you like" there can be tons of characters that you like these days and none of them could have fischl on them. The starglitter argument doesn't work either because if you apply it to fischl, it can also be applied for C4 XL, C6 XQ, C2 Beidou, and any of the starter characters that is super hard to get constellations for. At that point you're gonna be out of starglitter in no time, and not to mention how hard it is to get starglitter when you're starting out in the first place, where you don't have any duplicates on anything and you're saving for months on end, not getting any starglitter at all. And you could be waiting up to 5 months for the character to be rotated back into the shop. Why this is so important for fischl is that from C0 - C5 she doesn't get almost any good constellations, the one that increases skill damage being okay. But at C6 she gets a massive damage upgrade and a 17% increase of OZ uptime, which means 17% more A4 procs and particle generation and electro application. Meanwhile most of the 1.0 content creators and theorycrafters have had the 1.0 four stars for over 3 years now and have completely forgotten how different those characters are at lower constellations, or with no constellations at all. And when they talk about how "broken" they are, they are of course referring to their power level at C6 because anything below C6 doesn't exist to them so why should they even consider it, but a viewer watching might think they are actually talking about C0 because that's what their fischl is on, and it will make no sense to them how she would be better. Because comparatively Miko's damage at C0 is very visibly better than C0 fischl, in and out of dendro teams but especially out of dendro teams. She also has 100% uptime on electro application and particle generation while fischl has 5s of downtime. Some players might also not pull on every character like a lot of content creators do and have way less teams where fischl's off field electro application is needed, so it is of inherently less value to them. But yea this isn't just a fischl problem, it can be also said for Yelan and XQ or or Hu Tao and XL. I just wish people would either specify when they are talking about C6 four stars every single time to not be taken out of context or not compare them in general because of everything that I just mentioned.
I mean sure but what if miko isnt on banner. I will pull her even tho I have a triple crown fischl, but just cause Design and she fun. But fischl even at C0 is just way comfier to slot into your shitty starter team than miko imo
Unlike niche 4* characters that are dedicated supports to a specific 5* unit who becomes extremely difficult to obtains constellations for assuming that you do not want the unit they support, like Gorou and Faruzan, it is relatively much easier to add cons to units like Fischl, Bennett, Xiangling and Xingqiu that are not tied to a specific banner and are available on shop. They have been given for free overtime as well, and you don't need to be a 1.0 player to get them to c6. I played around 2.0 and got them all to c6 halfway into Inazuma because I made 4* cons a priority just like the 5* characters I want. It takes discipline and a bit of luck as well. Most content creators don't even consider her c6 a lot of the time and focus exclusively on her A4 passive. And if you are F2P and don't have stringless, Fischl's c4 can be valuable for activating Song of Stillness' passive without a healer. If you are a newbie the only thing you should be doing is wishing for 5* characters that can quickly let you tackle the abyss for freemogems. You will have enough resources in your world to get the 5* you want later. The last banner of Fischl was with Neuvillette alongside Xingqiu, and if you got him, then congratulations on picking up the best carry in the game.
day 1 fischl main ! She only gets stronger each nation 1.0 - release 2.0 - inazuma, sara release 3.0 - dendro (massive buff) 4.0 - golden troupe shes a four star! i have her c6 im f2p ! spread the gospel fischl is cracked 🙏🙏 + amazing personality, just like me fr, has a pet crow, Prinzessin der Verurteilung, skin, good voicelines, battery + fischl w everyone has her
@@onee-chansplaytoy5863 Its debatable, depends on the teams, weapons, Fischl constellations and artifact quality. This is why so many people have different opinions and why there is a discussion in the first place.
its really a testament to how broken the og 4 stars were that they tried to powercreep em multiple times with 5 stars (yelan for xingqiu, yae for fischl, etc.) and they literally cant. they just gain synergy with each other lmao
@@izkmj I haven’t played her in any team where you don’t place the turrets, go through your team, then burst then reset the turrets, whether that’s on field yae, or Alhaitham split up time.
Ok but genuine question, why is her usage rate so low? There must be a reason right? I know the usage rate may be misleading sometimes, but clearly other good characters like nahida or xingqiu still got a high usage rate, so what is the reason why she is not used if she is so good according to him?
I think 4 stars are unironically harder to get than 5 stars now. There's so many that reruns for any of them are incredibly rare, which makes getting a particular one like fischl an almost impossible feat. And then when they finally get a rerun, you're competing with 2 other 4 stars and a 50% chance to just get a weapon. I can't count the amount of times I've wanted to get a specific 4 star on the event banner just to only get the other 2 a bunch, even if i do like 80 wishes. Meanwhile if youre trying to get yae, you have very good chances of getting her as long as you saved up in advance. This isnt to say yae or fischl is better, i just think the "everyone has [insert 4 star here]" argument is completely irrelevant in modern genshin because of how increasingly difficult it is to get a specific one. And then not only do content creators assume we have every 4 star, they assume we have every c6 4 star as well. But thats almost impossible now. We seriously need to abandon the mentality that everyone has been playing since 1.0 where 4 stars got reruns practically every other month
As someone who has tried to c6 fischl on her past 2 banners and didnt get a single fischl on her previous 4 star uptime banner before neuvillette i agree. It took me 3 years to get my first fischl c0. And i spent like over 100 wishes only to get her c4 on neuvillettes banner. Well at least i got a c1 neuv.
saying one of the best characters in the game is worth less than 7 wishes is wild. like no, getting the 4 star cons from the shop is actually way more worth it, its worth 7 wishes (and u dont even need cons if u dont want it, but getting the character itself is worth the 34 starglitter so so much)
@@raspiethesoviet i agree getting a guaranteed 4 star for the price of 7 wishes is well worth it and not difficult (well mentally resisting the urge to use star glitter for a 5 star is another story gambling addiction aware). The problem is she like every other 4 star character is only available twice a year. And to get guaranteed c6 thats like 3 years. I admittedly caved in my starglitter for furina wishes that i was going to pay for a c5 fischl.
not the yae havers coping, people you can still put fischl with yae and make both of them better, i dont stop playing hu tao just because xiangling exists.
I find shinobu just a lot better to use with dendro teams. she has more reliable electro app (esp at c2) and more reliable to hit for hyperbloom. fishcl might be better for off field electro dmg, but she’s not as good in hyperbloom (also, even with a pretty good build I find it annoying to keep oz up full time 😭😭)
For real though, the only reason I have Fischl on one team is because of how quickly I can swap off, and Yae is on another because she (used to be) the only dps (until I got Furina who *slaps)* It’s not that big of a deal to press E three times but that’s my only reasoning when I choose one over the other :) Also it’s funny to sit afk and watch them die and they both do that >:D
Reminds md of how someone said that Sucrose isn't good anymore, and she doesn't deserve her spot as one of the best 4 stars, because people aren't using her in abyss. And she's not meta because non of her teams are better than Neuvilette teams and- (yata yata yata) When in reality, people are just using her 5 star counterpart Kazuha. Which is more or less a similar situation here.
Sucrose is unironically better than kazuha imo, main problem is that she feels so bad to play 😭😭😭 girlie is a 6 star character with 2 star gameplay wth
@@catfoodtastesgood5808 how is she better xd kazuha's grouping capabilities are unmatched, can double swirl, a4 is able to reach 40%+ element dmg bonus, the only thing sucrose does better is that she gives around 200-250 EM, which kazuha can do too with c2(even buffing himself aswell) if your kazuha is c0 and we don't include that kazuha is just more comfortable to play and you play smth like spread hyperbloom etc. where EM>bonus dmg% then yeah go ahead sucrose can be better, otherwise kazuha is just a superior unit
Fischl was my first level 70 character and my 2nd first level 90 (after Yoi). She was in my team ever since I got her. She got to level 10 friendship faster than Xingqiu even though I got him waaay first. She used to be my main dps before and she's cracked. Now I use her every abyss and in almost every one of my team.
dude I hate people who keeps saying people who talk a lot is yapping like what do you expect like he is a steamer, what is he meant to do? like just sit and play the game without talking to chat or commentating? Y'all just say yapping to win an argument you lost
I can’t take it anymore! I’m sick of Fischl (not really)! I try to play Yae. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Raiden. My Fischl deals more damage. I want to play Aggravate. The best teams have Fischl. I want to play Cyno, Keqing, Yae, Raiden, Lisa, Dori, Razor. They all want Fischl. She grabs me by my throat (yes harder my Prinzessin). I pull on Standard and Ass Banners for her. I cook for her, mine for her, commit genocide for her. I give her R5 Stringless. She isn’t satisfied. I give her Aqua Simulacra, Polar Star, Skyward Harp, The First Great Magic. “Why the hell aren’t they R5” she insults me (uwu). “Gives me more field time” she demands. She grabs Nahida and makes the poor Archon throw herself against the enemies. She kidnaps Kazuha and makes him jump up and down like a Mario spinoff to debuff enemies. She seduces Bennett, and takes all of his juicy buff for herself. She isn’t satisfied. “You just need to … forget it, I have no weakness, just give me 54.4 CV artifacts to deal more damage”. I don’t have any 54.4 CV artifacts, my luck is shit. She forces me to refresh resin, I can’t refresh resin, I don’t have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. “Thou hath outlived thy usefulness, my final farewell to thee”. She summon Oz. She orders: “By Royal Decree”. I stare into the birb’s eyes. There’s nothing there. Nothing but pure, 50% of most Aggravate team damage, no icd, electro damage. What a cruel world ( I prefer being choked).
Not really, since he is talking about the teams that fischl and yea work in, wich he doesn't play them becuase he prefer a different type of team combo, not becuase they are not good,but becuase he doesn't prefer them due to their play styel. However, his point still stand strong, in teams that need yea or fischl in them,fischl is your best option,being one of the best support since the game released.
as someone who REALLY doesn’t like fischl as a character and ONLY plays her for the meta (playing her makes me feel like a meta slave) she is…..unfortunately too broken (she’s my highest ranking character on akasha too…shaking)
Was deciding to pull for yae, if c18 fiscl is no different or better off field I probably won’t pull her. But she’s good for character showcase where I can put her near ei and ei’s complex family
My favourite game character is Yae, but i know Fischl is more useful in general. And for anyone saying that she isnt worth building or that she is bad, hey you are the one missing the shot and is not that relevant if you have many characters built anyway.
@@zeljkomirkovic3271because he got stuck arguing why fischl is better than yae with his chat and couldn't get to the actual point of the stream, which is basically what being stunlocked is, getting stuck
still fischl, yae is only better in aoe (but with an anemo fischl is better again) or an aggravate team with high dowtime from your main dps, as far as electro goes fishcl is a jack of all trades and a master of most.
I know she is better than Yae Miko. I think Fischl is even better than Barnett objectively but Bannett has no second, no replacement and that is why Bannett is invaluable, used so much and every one can agree he is S tier. No way Yae is better than Fischl at C0 it should not even be compared. In a free to play comp. In my knowledge, The S tiers are: Bannett, Kazuha, Nahida and Furina. S- Raiden, Yelan, Xingqui, Fischl, Neuvillette and Xiangling A+ Tier Kokomi, Alhaithm, Venti, Nilou and Kuki. A- Ayaka, Ganyu, Hutao, Lyney, Yoimiya, Xiao etc. Zhongli to me personally, I don’t value shield but He can be between A+ or A-. Their use rate does not necessarily translate to utility and how good a character is. Nahida and Fischl can out damage 80% of duo comp. unless compared to whales or high constellation 5* and Refined weapons.
So like I compared my Yae and Fischl right. C0 Yae 2pc em/atk using atlas 70:180, C6 Fischl 2pc em/atk using aqua 75:215,. Paired with Nahida and Kazuha, Fischl did 28% of the team dmg while yae did 45%. I'm guessing the argument is that fischl just gives more to your team than yae, in that case it's true
@@leylintempest1714 Ah now that I think about it, the calcs prob didnt take into account her a4 atk spam, mb lol. But I did some testing in abyss now with nahida spamming her bsc, my yae def still did a bit more damage than oz in single target but it's kinda close ngl, prob a diff of 10% at least
Tbh fischl's own damage fluctuates depending on how you play it and on ur team, like usually you use beidou + fischl in aoe so u can on field sucrose, who is prob the best character at proccing fischl's a4 in the whole game lmao, but u cant really on field sucrose with yae bc you spend like 17 years going right here! Right now! Emerge!
Is at least Yae C6 better than Fischl C6? Other than that just imagine: C1 making her first extend duration od totems instead of destroying them C4 giving her interuption resistance after using E. Just making 2 meh constellations interesting but not even op. Dream
There's no reasons to pull for Yae, it's only valid if u like her design or... Idk if u like her but she is sooooooooo useless compared to fischl, Yae miko is just a joke(a really bad joke) Why mihoyo didn't give her snapshot in her abilities is something we never going to understand
wait people play yae on field? doesnt she just get slapped to death like a fly by a hilichurl? with the lowest base hp/defence in game sort of thing? I myself am always afraid to keep mine on field ngl especially scince my mikos artifacts dont have that much hp/def rolls
@inser3882 Sure, depends. Personally, I get pretty good milage out of Aggravate Yae, and you can see her usage rates. (But those rates are also because she's good as a duo DPS in Spread teams.) Either way, I think Aggravate has meta worthy damage regardless of its popularity (or lack there of).
@@loganholder3948 the way I see it is that aggravate is good sure but the teams right now with characters like furina, lyney and neuvillette just have much better damage floors and ceiling.
You know what though, I understand why people think characters like kuki, miko, raiden, are better than characters like fischl, beidou, xinqiu. Zyox always say x character is broken, x character is so good, x character is better than this character, but in his guides you almost never see the actual damage numbers from these characters because at any given time there's 30 instances of damage happening from everyone on the team I still don't even know exactly how good those characters are. You watch his showcases, but there's so many numbers on screen from the teams those characters are usually in you can't actually see what makes them better. He made 2 videos talking about why nahida is completely broken and I'm actually not sure what the damage she's doing or allowing others to do is. I run her in my Alhaitham team every abyss (if you can read, you will notice that one half of my teams at least do not do "big number") and it's just like, she's there, I'm sure she's adding a ton of value, but I don't know exactly why. That's how it feels with a lot of the non hypercarry broken characters Edit: I do NOT think "1 big number = better", my point here is that you cannot see how much value fischl adds to a taser team unless you build her, put her in the team, and then time your clears and compare, because her personal damage is almost impossible to actually see in a taser or quicken team. Apply this to other characters often ran in reaction based teams like beidou or nahida as well
hooooo i pretty sure your one of those people who think navia is broken, most of the time multiple numbers are better than big number, beidou perfectly embodies this concept
also nahida literally adds a free 250 em to alhaitham, applies so much dendro to everyone for any reaction at any speed, can hold deepwood for res shred, her dmg is excellent in aoe like she can do hundereds of thousands in seconds, shes absoutely can be argured as the most broken character in genshin, plus alhaitham mainly shines in single target and nahida in aoe so they can cover each other.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Fischl. I try to play Yae. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Raiden. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Kuki. My Fischl deals more damage. I want to play Keqing. Her best team has Fishl. I want to play taser, quickbloom. They both want Fischl.
She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the stringless. She isn't satisfied. I give her Aqua Simulacra. "I don't need this HP%" She tells me. "Give me Golden troupe." She grabs Kazuha and forces him to swirl electro. "You just need to give Oz full uptime. I can deal more damage with thundering pulse".
I can't pull for thundering pulse, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Oz. She says "Oz, reveal thyself" There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd electro application. What a cruel world.
Kid has a credit card!!😂
PLS
OMGG OPPA FISCHL 😭😭😭
If your Fischl is out damaging your Miko your Miko needs a lot of work haha
@@KategariYami If your Miko is out damaging your Fischl your Fischl needs a lot of work haha
It’s so interesting to see how long he gets stunlocked for
Probably doing it on purpose to make a video longer or just a complete idiot
The one guy'd into stunlock combo was honestly crazy
can you explain what stunlock actually means? from what i saw it's when a streamer gets mad and starts ranting about someone else's opinion. idk if that's the real definition :')
@starkissed its when you cant move on a character- when youre frozen or electrocharged a bunch of times continuously for example
the moment he stopped being stunlocked about fischl the hyperbloom stunlock comes in again and the cycle repeats
Is this the origin of the "yae>fischl guy" ban
Yeah it is
YEP Aware
Bro revisited year old stunlock ICANT😂
Every time zy0x says 'X character is good', I keep having to remind myself if he's talking about C0 or C6.
the reason why fischl is broken is her talent. her c6 is really good but shes even at c0 better than yae.
Faruzan us really the only character than I think is broken/good but only at c6. Every other good character is typically good/broken at c0 and insane at c6.
Her A4 passive is really good, and her skill in general
She literally is not. Yae has better stats and scalings, she just deals more damage. Fischl is a battery+applicator with low field time but her damage is way worse than yae at c0-c5. C6 fischl is better though.@@ladderlappen4585
@@ladderlappen4585I've been playing C6 Fischl dps and it's actually kinda fun
As an Itto main, I don't understand the problem with admitting that the character you like more is objectively worse than others in terms if meta.
yeah but fischl is GENUINELY strong
as a cyno, wanderer, wriothesley, and ayato enjoyer same. they're not bad of course but there are better characters (in terms of meta) than them
The problem here is that Yae can be better or worse than Fischl depending on how hard you whale for her, so different people is going to have different experiences on the matter. It's the same thing with Xingqiu vs Yelan.
@@defaultio3354 I think they were talking about the yae guy
@None38389 but that's pointless then, a 5 star with constellations(specially c6)is always better than a 4 star with a similar role because of how gacha games work. In most scenarios for the majority of people, it's more accurate to compare them to c0 5 stars. If you want to compare them with constellations, you should do it with each constellation
ALL I KNOW IS THEY ARE GOOD TOGETHER. PERIOD 😂
I think a lot of people under estimate Fischl's damage output due to her often being run with another electro on fielder, leading to it being slightly more difficult to see who is doing the damage. It is kind of hard to keep track when your screen is full of purple numbers. While there are cases where you'd want to use another electro character instead, over all she is the best electro unit in the game.
I run her in KQ Aggravate and she probably does more damage than Keqing in there
@@randomguy8107 Same lol, fischl is fucking busted
People care less about damage, when you don't actually play characters. People don't like playing Fischl, because you does not play Fischl. You put Oz and goodbye. At least Yae has some gameplay.
@@timkalierThen you would play Physchl and unlock the Prinzessin der Maschinengewehr
@@timkalierYae has gameplay and still has comparable damage to a 4*. As Zyox mentioned, Fischl allows you to play your favourite unit on-field. If I pulled Yae my account would barely benefit, maybe my Tighnari but that's it.
As far as I know the only time Yae is better than Fischl is on Spread teams, which is mainly Alhaitham and Tighnari. The reason is Spread is a dendro reaction, not an electro one, which means Fischl won't trigger her A4 which causes her damage to tank
And, like, Yae only outperforms in Spread in terms of personal damage, Fischl is still there to hold elegy or battery your second electro if needed.
@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 This is the definition of misinformation.
@@AlwaysThirstys Which part is misinformation?
Yae outdamages Fischl in Spread?
Fischl can hold Elegy?
Fischl can battery a second electro?
i legit dont get the "yae vs fischl" debate when one of the best teams is putting both together.
Seeing Lyney in S tier makes me giggle until my toes wiggle
Edit: Y'ALL I MEAN IN A GOOD WAY MOST PPL UNDERRATE HIM
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that’s 4.0 usage tho
He does do alot of damage.
Especially against tulpa he is one of the best.
That oh so broken neuvilette cant do shit there lmao
@@shi-chan5779what…that’s like saying lyney is awful against the pyro cube like WHAT
@@shi-chan5779 when you have to pick an elemental hard counter to feel good about a character
As a yae main and a big fan of fischl this hurts me a lot STOP COMPARING MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS
Fischl is better. Ur just a simp because yae is a 5*
The real ones play them together. 🙏
@@Ananta9817This is the way, Yae reaches her maximum damage potential when paired with Fischl while Yae is generally Fischl’s best aggravate team
Yeah they 're like Yelan and xingqiu one does more Dmg and the other one is more versatile but paired together they're strong and apply a lot of electro
@@simo8345-mh2ck and yelan is better 👀
Yae Miko (Japanese: 八や重え神み子こ Yae Miko), also known as Guuji Yae (Japanese: 宮ぐう司じ Guuji) or the Guuji, is a playable Electro character in Genshin Impact.
A kitsune of many facets, Yae Miko oversees the Grand Narukami Shrine, owns the Yae Publishing House, and is worse than Fischl.
Okay but the way youtube formatted what I assume was originally furigana left the jp text as "YayaEeMimiKoko GuuguuJiji" and that is very funny.
Gucci Yae
when zyox explains like this, all I can imagine is mika
the randos saying clorinde will be better TRUUEEE Prayge
Fischl damage is single target and there's many stronger single target teams in the game than her aggravate or any of her teams and in AoE she's straight up bad , if clorinde isn't better that means she's B tier lol
@@kingdoom5022 Not really, not that are free also, she's often pairs as a support or with an Anemo which increases her value for AoE. Fischl is just free energy and dmg. Anyone who thinks Fischl isn't S tier is either dumb or a whale ong.
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You mean anyone who thinks fischl is S tier are that
@@kingdoom5022 keep coping. you arent convincing anyone
idc if she will be better or bad ILL PULL
love that you are screaming when they are supposed to be played together. THATS content
0:50 Saying that Xiangling is worse than Fischl is definitely a take of time.
rare zy0x W
Realest take of all time
i mean, when both c0 it is more than 100% correct. when both c4+ they are close
Fischl is way better than bennett slave
W take
ok I'm gonna stunlock myself for a moment and say that we should not compare C0 five stars to C6 four stars. The average price for a C0 five star at 0 pity is around 95 wishes and 240 wishes for a C6 four star on a rate up banner (according to tenten OPPA). That's just average, five stars have pity and guarantees so it could be as low as a 10-pull to get them once their banner starts. Meanwhile you can't do anything to reduce the amount of wishes needed for four stars except get extremely lucky. And I do mean extremely because the four stars are competing with two other banner rate ups meanwhile the five stars are only competing with one.
And no, fischl being a 1.0 character that's on the monthly shop doesn't matter, because first, not everyone has been playing since 1.0 and have seen as many good banners with fischl on them because as new characters get added the amount of good banners to pull on gets diluted. Especially when everyone is saying "just pull for who you like" there can be tons of characters that you like these days and none of them could have fischl on them. The starglitter argument doesn't work either because if you apply it to fischl, it can also be applied for C4 XL, C6 XQ, C2 Beidou, and any of the starter characters that is super hard to get constellations for. At that point you're gonna be out of starglitter in no time, and not to mention how hard it is to get starglitter when you're starting out in the first place, where you don't have any duplicates on anything and you're saving for months on end, not getting any starglitter at all. And you could be waiting up to 5 months for the character to be rotated back into the shop.
Why this is so important for fischl is that from C0 - C5 she doesn't get almost any good constellations, the one that increases skill damage being okay. But at C6 she gets a massive damage upgrade and a 17% increase of OZ uptime, which means 17% more A4 procs and particle generation and electro application.
Meanwhile most of the 1.0 content creators and theorycrafters have had the 1.0 four stars for over 3 years now and have completely forgotten how different those characters are at lower constellations, or with no constellations at all. And when they talk about how "broken" they are, they are of course referring to their power level at C6 because anything below C6 doesn't exist to them so why should they even consider it, but a viewer watching might think they are actually talking about C0 because that's what their fischl is on, and it will make no sense to them how she would be better.
Because comparatively Miko's damage at C0 is very visibly better than C0 fischl, in and out of dendro teams but especially out of dendro teams. She also has 100% uptime on electro application and particle generation while fischl has 5s of downtime. Some players might also not pull on every character like a lot of content creators do and have way less teams where fischl's off field electro application is needed, so it is of inherently less value to them.
But yea this isn't just a fischl problem, it can be also said for Yelan and XQ or or Hu Tao and XL. I just wish people would either specify when they are talking about C6 four stars every single time to not be taken out of context or not compare them in general because of everything that I just mentioned.
BRO MADE AN ARGUMENT LONG AS MY HOMEWORK AINT NO WAY 🤯
just start playing earlier XD
I ain't reading all that. But i believe you man ❤
I mean sure but what if miko isnt on banner.
I will pull her even tho I have a triple crown fischl, but just cause Design and she fun.
But fischl even at C0 is just way comfier to slot into your shitty starter team than miko imo
Unlike niche 4* characters that are dedicated supports to a specific 5* unit who becomes extremely difficult to obtains constellations for assuming that you do not want the unit they support, like Gorou and Faruzan, it is relatively much easier to add cons to units like Fischl, Bennett, Xiangling and Xingqiu that are not tied to a specific banner and are available on shop. They have been given for free overtime as well, and you don't need to be a 1.0 player to get them to c6. I played around 2.0 and got them all to c6 halfway into Inazuma because I made 4* cons a priority just like the 5* characters I want. It takes discipline and a bit of luck as well.
Most content creators don't even consider her c6 a lot of the time and focus exclusively on her A4 passive.
And if you are F2P and don't have stringless, Fischl's c4 can be valuable for activating Song of Stillness' passive without a healer.
If you are a newbie the only thing you should be doing is wishing for 5* characters that can quickly let you tackle the abyss for freemogems. You will have enough resources in your world to get the 5* you want later. The last banner of Fischl was with Neuvillette alongside Xingqiu, and if you got him, then congratulations on picking up the best carry in the game.
FISCHL 🔛🔝
True (true)
True
true and real
Factually correct and based
BIRD GAMING 🔛🔝 (yes i main fischl)
day 1 fischl main ! She only gets stronger each nation
1.0 - release
2.0 - inazuma, sara release
3.0 - dendro (massive buff)
4.0 - golden troupe
shes a four star! i have her c6 im f2p ! spread the gospel fischl is cracked 🙏🙏 + amazing personality, just like me fr, has a pet crow, Prinzessin der Verurteilung, skin, good voicelines, battery + fischl w everyone has her
As Yae Miko simp, Fischl is just better but Yae is hotter 😏
finally a lucid one
debatable
Yae hotter, Fischl cooler
@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 cooler in what way ? cause i find her annoying af
Have you seen her princess outfit though?
fischl is my fav genshin character and my main
based!!
"Nah, I'm better" - Yae Miko
well shes not.
@@onee-chansplaytoy5863 Its debatable, depends on the teams, weapons, Fischl constellations and artifact quality. This is why so many people have different opinions and why there is a discussion in the first place.
Zyox banned the poor guy because the guy was right
its really a testament to how broken the og 4 stars were that they tried to powercreep em multiple times with 5 stars (yelan for xingqiu, yae for fischl, etc.) and they literally cant. they just gain synergy with each other lmao
Eeeqeee in 2024 is insane. That damn near discredited the whole video 😩 why are people still doing that rotation
what's the latest yae rotation
@@izkmj I haven’t played her in any team where you don’t place the turrets, go through your team, then burst then reset the turrets, whether that’s on field yae, or Alhaitham split up time.
Ok but genuine question, why is her usage rate so low? There must be a reason right? I know the usage rate may be misleading sometimes, but clearly other good characters like nahida or xingqiu still got a high usage rate, so what is the reason why she is not used if she is so good according to him?
That is unclear but if you think fischl is not good then man try playing her sometimes
I think i cut out the full context. He said the usage rate is based on people who had that character. + people actually not using her.
Hmm, prob because people play Hyperbloom more than Aggravate/Spread?that's why Kuki is more popular, I am just guessing thought
Because popularity over meta
@@18shailesh_ i do have her built and i do play her in some abyss rotation but the truth is i found myself play her less than other units
This is a certified hood yapper
I think 4 stars are unironically harder to get than 5 stars now. There's so many that reruns for any of them are incredibly rare, which makes getting a particular one like fischl an almost impossible feat. And then when they finally get a rerun, you're competing with 2 other 4 stars and a 50% chance to just get a weapon. I can't count the amount of times I've wanted to get a specific 4 star on the event banner just to only get the other 2 a bunch, even if i do like 80 wishes. Meanwhile if youre trying to get yae, you have very good chances of getting her as long as you saved up in advance.
This isnt to say yae or fischl is better, i just think the "everyone has [insert 4 star here]" argument is completely irrelevant in modern genshin because of how increasingly difficult it is to get a specific one. And then not only do content creators assume we have every 4 star, they assume we have every c6 4 star as well. But thats almost impossible now. We seriously need to abandon the mentality that everyone has been playing since 1.0 where 4 stars got reruns practically every other month
She’s literally in the shop ???
Good luck saving like 40 starglitter when it's way more worth it to buy wishes
As someone who has tried to c6 fischl on her past 2 banners and didnt get a single fischl on her previous 4 star uptime banner before neuvillette i agree. It took me 3 years to get my first fischl c0. And i spent like over 100 wishes only to get her c4 on neuvillettes banner. Well at least i got a c1 neuv.
saying one of the best characters in the game is worth less than 7 wishes is wild. like no, getting the 4 star cons from the shop is actually way more worth it, its worth 7 wishes (and u dont even need cons if u dont want it, but getting the character itself is worth the 34 starglitter so so much)
@@raspiethesoviet i agree getting a guaranteed 4 star for the price of 7 wishes is well worth it and not difficult (well mentally resisting the urge to use star glitter for a 5 star is another story gambling addiction aware). The problem is she like every other 4 star character is only available twice a year. And to get guaranteed c6 thats like 3 years. I admittedly caved in my starglitter for furina wishes that i was going to pay for a c5 fischl.
this is a fantastic episode
I too agree that Fischl is better
not the yae havers coping, people you can still put fischl with yae and make both of them better, i dont stop playing hu tao just because xiangling exists.
Her skin is really pretty
"Her skin is really pretty" "leaves"
HOLY BASED
the worst thing about fischl is the way she always breaks up my eimiko teams by doing more damage than one of them ):
I find shinobu just a lot better to use with dendro teams. she has more reliable electro app (esp at c2) and more reliable to hit for hyperbloom. fishcl might be better for off field electro dmg, but she’s not as good in hyperbloom (also, even with a pretty good build I find it annoying to keep oz up full time 😭😭)
I use them both tbh but Yae more in abyss cause her burst does a ton lot of damage with nahida
Any based fellow Yae pullers in 4.4?
I'm already based because I have her C2R1 lol
Nah. I already got her C0 R1. Does 14k per tick and 17k per tick with Zhongli . 😊
Certainly, my Fischl is looking for a new team to play
@@blaze8308 Mine's at C6R5, does 45k per tick unbuffed, she's at least better than Fischl at doing damage now. :)
I am once again reminded why to not look at RUclips comments for Genshin takes. Holy shit guys
Filled with waifu-pilled hypercasual misinformations spreaders
@@ba_sic yea and wallet gamers
errhm actually c6 bennett ruins albedo!!🤓👆 -random youtube commenter i talked to😔
@@columbinadamselettefan 💀
ok ive come back after i just found out he said likes fischl a lot ok zy0x ur hand in marriage
For real though, the only reason I have Fischl on one team is because of how quickly I can swap off, and Yae is on another because she (used to be) the only dps (until I got Furina who *slaps)*
It’s not that big of a deal to press E three times but that’s my only reasoning when I choose one over the other :)
Also it’s funny to sit afk and watch them die and they both do that >:D
ITS ALWAYS XIANGLING!!!
Fischl carries every aggravate DPS lol
Reminds md of how someone said that Sucrose isn't good anymore, and she doesn't deserve her spot as one of the best 4 stars, because people aren't using her in abyss. And she's not meta because non of her teams are better than Neuvilette teams and- (yata yata yata)
When in reality, people are just using her 5 star counterpart Kazuha. Which is more or less a similar situation here.
Sucrose is unironically better than kazuha imo, main problem is that she feels so bad to play 😭😭😭 girlie is a 6 star character with 2 star gameplay wth
@@catfoodtastesgood5808 how is she better xd
kazuha's grouping capabilities are unmatched, can double swirl, a4 is able to reach 40%+ element dmg bonus, the only thing sucrose does better is that she gives around 200-250 EM, which kazuha can do too with c2(even buffing himself aswell)
if your kazuha is c0 and we don't include that kazuha is just more comfortable to play and you play smth like spread hyperbloom etc. where EM>bonus dmg% then yeah go ahead sucrose can be better, otherwise kazuha is just a superior unit
@@catfoodtastesgood5808 Its funny when those comparisons always ignore personal damage that kazuha brings.
"dendro left me broken" -fischl
You mean "stronger than ever"
This is almost hasanabi level of stunlock
I personally don’t like Yae’s personality and love Fischl a lot so this confirmed my decision to not pull for Yae for her next rerun lol
Fischl was my first level 70 character and my 2nd first level 90 (after Yoi). She was in my team ever since I got her. She got to level 10 friendship faster than Xingqiu even though I got him waaay first. She used to be my main dps before and she's cracked. Now I use her every abyss and in almost every one of my team.
I still regret missing that Fischl skin… I’m getting it after buying enough Welkins.
I use yae and fischl in the same team🗿
I think he likes fischl
Guys, remember that ihaling copium for so long might give you brain damage
bro got stunlocked, and stunlocked, and then got stunlocked again.ICANT
Did they buff yapping in the NA servers?
dude I hate people who keeps saying people who talk a lot is yapping like what do you expect like he is a steamer, what is he meant to do? like just sit and play the game without talking to chat or commentating? Y'all just say yapping to win an argument you lost
@@GoldedArchipelago ig they actually buffed yapping...
tazlikesbread should ride down a long, screeching hot metal slide in a birthday suit.
I don't want to compare them so I got both yae and fischl at c6 and use them together
I can’t take it anymore! I’m sick of Fischl (not really)! I try to play Yae. My Fischl deals more damage. I try to play Raiden. My Fischl deals more damage. I want to play Aggravate. The best teams have Fischl. I want to play Cyno, Keqing, Yae, Raiden, Lisa, Dori, Razor. They all want Fischl. She grabs me by my throat (yes harder my Prinzessin). I pull on Standard and Ass Banners for her. I cook for her, mine for her, commit genocide for her. I give her R5 Stringless. She isn’t satisfied. I give her Aqua Simulacra, Polar Star, Skyward Harp, The First Great Magic. “Why the hell aren’t they R5” she insults me (uwu). “Gives me more field time” she demands. She grabs Nahida and makes the poor Archon throw herself against the enemies. She kidnaps Kazuha and makes him jump up and down like a Mario spinoff to debuff enemies. She seduces Bennett, and takes all of his juicy buff for herself. She isn’t satisfied. “You just need to … forget it, I have no weakness, just give me 54.4 CV artifacts to deal more damage”. I don’t have any 54.4 CV artifacts, my luck is shit. She forces me to refresh resin, I can’t refresh resin, I don’t have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. “Thou hath outlived thy usefulness, my final farewell to thee”. She summon Oz. She orders: “By Royal Decree”. I stare into the birb’s eyes. There’s nothing there. Nothing but pure, 50% of most Aggravate team damage, no icd, electro damage. What a cruel world ( I prefer being choked).
the ones calling fischl overrated are hypocrites that don't want to acknowledge a 4 star being better than a 5 star. *coughs in xq v furina*
TRRRRUUUEEEE
If he keeps saying fischl is broken character , then why he almost never uses her in his streams ? Checkmate lol
Not really, since he is talking about the teams that fischl and yea work in, wich he doesn't play them becuase he prefer a different type of team combo, not becuase they are not good,but becuase he doesn't prefer them due to their play styel.
However, his point still stand strong, in teams that need yea or fischl in them,fischl is your best option,being one of the best support since the game released.
@@Frozen_memories
How is she one of the best supports when she isn't top 5 best supports ?
@@kingdoom5022 are you really relying on rankings to judge a character's strength? keep coping
@@kingdoom5022You are correct, with how much damage she does, Fischl is clearly a hypercarry herself
@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 calling fischl a support is kinda blasphemous tbh (wait i think i answered the wrong person 💀)
as someone who REALLY doesn’t like fischl as a character and ONLY plays her for the meta (playing her makes me feel like a meta slave) she is…..unfortunately too broken (she’s my highest ranking character on akasha too…shaking)
Of course the video ends with a mention of hyperbloom ICANT
My Fischl isn't even built. Why did I bother watching this?🤣
I am a casual farming Golden Troupe for Furina and casually building my Fischl and Albedo on the side, maybe its time?
i pulled for yae because Hot Woman. but i choose to play fischl because her aura is 9000. we are not the same.
Was deciding to pull for yae, if c18 fiscl is no different or better off field I probably won’t pull her. But she’s good for character showcase where I can put her near ei and ei’s complex family
People don't like playing Fischl, because you does not play Fischl. You put oz and goodbye. At least Yae has some gameplay.
Whats the dmg distribution website??
Bro really said yae has better personality and looks than Fischl 😥
As a yae enjoyer, I might even be able to argue that Fischl is as broken as Xingqiu
Not bro still thinking yae is better ☠️☠️☠️ wake up to reality
My favourite game character is Yae, but i know Fischl is more useful in general. And for anyone saying that she isnt worth building or that she is bad, hey you are the one missing the shot and is not that relevant if you have many characters built anyway.
yae is best in aoe situation vs 3 units at a time. While fischl is better is single target
is this new stunlock?
I hope it is because shit's funny
She's broken but goddamn i hate using her
Because she is a 4*?
Fischl is my star and, by far, most used character.
Stunlocked again om
WHAT DOES STUNLOCK ACTUALLY MEAN PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN 😭😭
It's when you get hit and stunned multiple times to the point where you can't do anything, like a mitachurl shield ram
@@beangum ohh thanks and whats the deal with the xiao simp Why does everyone say he got stunlocked?
@@zeljkomirkovic3271because he got stuck arguing why fischl is better than yae with his chat and couldn't get to the actual point of the stream, which is basically what being stunlocked is, getting stuck
@@beangum ohh I get it now, thank you soooo muchh
@@zeljkomirkovic3271 yw
I agree that fischl is better than yae but fischl lacks aoe. That's where kuki and beidou becomes better
H3 music got me jiggy
Miko is better in spread, Fischl is better everywhere else.
Edit: Wait, you guys burst with Miko?
A better electro unit than Fischl? Zhongli.
I’m latterly a fischl main ofc she does damage
I will go play Keqing, Kuki, Xiangling and Chevreuse now.
Sanest Fischl Main
I mean Sara is there because Raiden is like way above sooooo....
I don't remember the last time I play Yae
So.... who is hetter in overload?
still fischl, yae is only better in aoe (but with an anemo fischl is better again) or an aggravate team with high dowtime from your main dps, as far as electro goes fishcl is a jack of all trades and a master of most.
Whenever you add bennett and take snapshotting into account, Fischl takes the W
I know she is better than Yae Miko. I think Fischl is even better than Barnett objectively but Bannett has no second, no replacement and that is why Bannett is invaluable, used so much and every one can agree he is S tier. No way Yae is better than Fischl at C0 it should not even be compared.
In a free to play comp. In my knowledge,
The S tiers are:
Bannett, Kazuha, Nahida and Furina.
S-
Raiden, Yelan, Xingqui, Fischl, Neuvillette and Xiangling
A+ Tier
Kokomi, Alhaithm, Venti, Nilou and Kuki.
A-
Ayaka, Ganyu, Hutao, Lyney, Yoimiya, Xiao etc.
Zhongli to me personally, I don’t value shield but He can be between A+ or A-.
Their use rate does not necessarily translate to utility and how good a character is.
Nahida and Fischl can out damage 80% of duo comp. unless compared to whales or high constellation 5* and Refined weapons.
So like I compared my Yae and Fischl right. C0 Yae 2pc em/atk using atlas 70:180, C6 Fischl 2pc em/atk using aqua 75:215,.
Paired with Nahida and Kazuha, Fischl did 28% of the team dmg while yae did 45%. I'm guessing the argument is that fischl just gives more to your team than yae, in that case it's true
it depends on the aoe involved and how much her a4 passive is proced but even then fishcl should atleast be close to yae so idk why you got that calcs
@@leylintempest1714 Ah now that I think about it, the calcs prob didnt take into account her a4 atk spam, mb lol. But I did some testing in abyss now with nahida spamming her bsc, my yae def still did a bit more damage than oz in single target but it's kinda close ngl, prob a diff of 10% at least
@@wave266Are you driving Fischl with on-field Nahida? Because Nahida doesn’t trigger a lot of Fischl A4
Tbh fischl's own damage fluctuates depending on how you play it and on ur team, like usually you use beidou + fischl in aoe so u can on field sucrose, who is prob the best character at proccing fischl's a4 in the whole game lmao, but u cant really on field sucrose with yae bc you spend like 17 years going right here! Right now! Emerge!
I..don’t have fishcl😭
Don't care if she's better, Yae's hotter
how delusional is this guy
the battle of mid is crazy
Are we talking about ganyu vs ayaka?
Is at least Yae C6 better than Fischl C6?
Other than that just imagine:
C1 making her first extend duration od totems instead of destroying them
C4 giving her interuption resistance after using E.
Just making 2 meh constellations interesting but not even op. Dream
10:35 your welcome I made him watch more of his boyfriend's videos hihi
Casuals who cant compute how op fischl is, Classic
There's no reasons to pull for Yae, it's only valid if u like her design or... Idk if u like her but she is sooooooooo useless compared to fischl, Yae miko is just a joke(a really bad joke)
Why mihoyo didn't give her snapshot in her abilities is something we never going to understand
wait people play yae on field? doesnt she just get slapped to death like a fly by a hilichurl? with the lowest base hp/defence in game sort of thing? I myself am always afraid to keep mine on field ngl especially scince my mikos artifacts dont have that much hp/def rolls
Fischl is very good... in teams that aren't very meta. Her only meta team is Aggravate, and only Yae and Keqing are really used there.
Aggravate is arguably not meta too
@@inser3882it is because of dendro itself if you have Nahida c2+ it’s definitely meta
@inser3882 Sure, depends. Personally, I get pretty good milage out of Aggravate Yae, and you can see her usage rates. (But those rates are also because she's good as a duo DPS in Spread teams.) Either way, I think Aggravate has meta worthy damage regardless of its popularity (or lack there of).
@@Marz333 no shit 💀 c2 nahida is broken
@@loganholder3948 the way I see it is that aggravate is good sure but the teams right now with characters like furina, lyney and neuvillette just have much better damage floors and ceiling.
my favorite streamer with big W takes
You know what though, I understand why people think characters like kuki, miko, raiden, are better than characters like fischl, beidou, xinqiu.
Zyox always say x character is broken, x character is so good, x character is better than this character, but in his guides you almost never see the actual damage numbers from these characters because at any given time there's 30 instances of damage happening from everyone on the team
I still don't even know exactly how good those characters are. You watch his showcases, but there's so many numbers on screen from the teams those characters are usually in you can't actually see what makes them better.
He made 2 videos talking about why nahida is completely broken and I'm actually not sure what the damage she's doing or allowing others to do is. I run her in my Alhaitham team every abyss (if you can read, you will notice that one half of my teams at least do not do "big number") and it's just like, she's there, I'm sure she's adding a ton of value, but I don't know exactly why. That's how it feels with a lot of the non hypercarry broken characters
Edit: I do NOT think "1 big number = better", my point here is that you cannot see how much value fischl adds to a taser team unless you build her, put her in the team, and then time your clears and compare, because her personal damage is almost impossible to actually see in a taser or quicken team. Apply this to other characters often ran in reaction based teams like beidou or nahida as well
Just see how fast the boss dies 1 team Vs 2 team.
average genshin players when big number
hooooo i pretty sure your one of those people who think navia is broken, most of the time multiple numbers are better than big number, beidou perfectly embodies this concept
also nahida literally adds a free 250 em to alhaitham, applies so much dendro to everyone for any reaction at any speed, can hold deepwood for res shred, her dmg is excellent in aoe like she can do hundereds of thousands in seconds, shes absoutely can be argured as the most broken character in genshin, plus alhaitham mainly shines in single target and nahida in aoe so they can cover each other.
Do you think one big number is better than consistent damage? cuz if so then I have bad news for you