Excellent information. I was searching another issue I am having with my 2004 Vue Redline and thought I'd watch your video. I haven't had the BCM issue although my car is often in extreme heat in Arizona. Thanks for posting and don't give up on Saturn Vue. You may be one of the few people in the country that knows these cars so well, better than the dealers.
I know this is an old video, however, here's a tip... You saw signs of heat on the BCM board. You also saw that the silver capacitor can was swollen. This capacitor is an electrolytic type. They are known to have a super high failure rate. Swelling is one sign of failure. Leakage is another. They also commonly fail without any visual indication. It takes electrical test equipment to find those. It is likely that this cap was the total problem. It shorted the circuit and caused the other components to overheat, too. Another point about this particular cap... It is a type that does not have electrical pins that are soldered through the board. It has solder pads, underneath the cap. This is a Surface Mount Device (SMD) type. They require a little more advanced soldering skills to replace, but it can still be replaced easily. This cap, in a high quality brand, should not cost more than a couple of dollars. Because the board still worked to start the car, I would have replaced this cap and then just kept an eye out for any future problems. I do not think any type of reprogramming would have been necessary. You would do well to team up with a local person that has electronics repair skills, just like you have mechanical skills. Thank you for sharing so graciously. I hope this information helps, as well.
t1d100 Do you think it would be good idea to try to replace that capacitor before ill try to replace the BCM(if that is possible)? I have Saturn L200 and it runs great beside the dashboard ruclips.net/video/ieHsSm-jpM0/видео.html I pulled BCM and i can see those "wrinkles"...thanks for the advice
@@hobbypower2 I would not give you direct advice. I have the skills and tools, so, for me, I would give it a try. And, again for me, I would replace the main electrolytic caps as a matter of maintenance/age, even if they showed no signs of failing, because it is so hard to dig the BCM out of the car. If you do not have the skills/tools, find someone that does. HTH.
@@t1d100 Thanks for the reply.... it looks like there is just one aluminum cap on the BCM board so ill try to replace that after cleaning all the grounds on the car .... back in the day I saved quite few power supplies for desktop computers and swollen caps were main failure point but those were mainly radial caps .... time to order caps and dust off soldering iron ....thanks
Matthew, I own a 2004 saturn vue V6 with no issues as of now. Your video is very informative on current or upcoming issues related to not only the body control modules but the electrical system, as well vehicles from other manufacturers. Great video Matthew!
Matt, great video. My 2006 SA Vue is exemplifying all the symptoms of a bad BCM, i.e., fuel gauge is erratic, door locks are locking and unlocking by themselves, anti-theft light comes on while the vehicle is running, stalling while driving, major jumping when engaging the gear shifter into drive or into reverse and high idle then low, then high. My gas gauge has been acting erratically for about a yr now.....progressively gotten worse in the last few months. Anytime it's between a 1/2 and 1/4 qtr tank, it will sometimes read empty until I restart the car. This has been very helpful! Thanks
Unfortunately they have discontinued this part so finding one is going to be a challenge. May have to go used and reprogram but I am still trying to find a new or remanufactured one
Thanks you for post helpfully video,,, I was about to sell my car to the junk yar,,, nobody can figure out the problem in my SUV, now I know what is the problem,, thank you
Mine had the same problem and a used BCM got it working fine (except for the odometer). I didn't realize all the heat damage it had until I saw this video; I thought it was some manufacturing coating. Having the odometer fixed after going though a list of mechanics was disappointing - I was told it would cost $800 and I didn't trust that they could complete it. I bought a Tech 2 and got TIS2000 software and TIS2Web from ACDelco: not recommended if your not a dealer or can see exactly how to reprogram the odometer.
I bought a used 07 Saturn aura a few months ago & probably the worst decision I could have ever made!!! it’s been giving me nothing but a headache ever since about the 3rd week. It’s been in the shop 3 different times only for the BCM problem to come right back!! Literally Driving me crazy
I hit a deer the other day an had to replace the headlights radiator and fans an.. I was able the drive it home that be morning it's all fixed except. Now it won't start it wants to start only something is stopping it have any ideas with hiding ground wires or crankshaft sensor the oil light stays on when all the other gauges are off
Thanks for this. Same issue on my 06 Vue. Gas gauge won’t move, cranks but no fire. Then hours later it fires up. You ever find out if the dealer had to program the BCM or if there is a workaround for it?
Excellent video - I subscribed immediately. I am in the process of removing the BCM from my 2004 Saturn Vue but have yet to figure out how to physically remove the BCM. The bottom has a tab of some sort that fits into a channel, maybe on the right side only. Any hints?
Hm, this looks like a similar problem to my 2004 Saturn L300. We thought it had run out of gas but after adding at least 5 gallons, it still has power but won't start. When you try, the fuel guage doesn't move (not looked at the temperature panel). It also makes a clicking noise after trying. The garage I took it to says it's the ECM that's bad but could it actually be the BCM?
Hi Matt, you seem to love tough ones so I thought I would share a problem. 1998 Chevy express 2500 4.3L. 1 year ago started stumbling and stalling in reverse. In a few months it progressed todrive and reverse only in drive it was more of a cold running issue. Replaced thermostat and temp sending unit with no change. Engine started stalling while city driving when coming to stops or near idle with gas pedal. After more time it was flooding out on cold starts and would only start holding pedal to floor and a lot of cranking. Replaced CPS and programmed with no change. Finally got to a point of no start. A friend used a Snap on brick and came up with bad MAF sensor. Replaced and ran good for two 3 mile trips, next day started having same issues. Having said all this the puzzle is after the thermostat cycles one time it runs great with the exception of stumbling in reverse intermittently. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I had to have my 2009 vue towed today because of some simular problems. There was days it done just fine then it started getting worse like the radio and the onstar stopped working at times and the chime would not work or it would be delayed and the turn signal would work but no clicking. And it also wouldn't turn over. The wrecker driver stuck some jumper cables to it and everything started working. Like I said it has not started In the past but if you would wait 5 minutes then it would start but today it didn't work out that way.
I’m having trouble with my 2007 Saturn aura XR. How I know the car won’t start is when the gas gauge wouldn’t work before fully starting and the abs light and traction service and service engine light will come on. And sometimes it would start and then randomly while I’m driving the abs light comes on and none of my gauges work and I have to push hard on the gas to go like it’s struggling to accelerate. I’ve almost gotten into an accident because of this. However,yesterday I was stranded at work for two hours cuz my car wouldn’t start but made a single click sound when I tried to start it and then another click when I left off of the key. It’s never done that before so now I’m stuck wondering if it’s really the bcm or a combination of the bcm and the starter
Great video , I just bought a 2005 ion 5 speed. No gas Guage, no crank , no fuel pressure. I can hear a click under the radio and the lock out light is flashing. It has a aftermarket ignition switch in it. I tried the key re-learn, nothing , any thoughts? Thank you for this video , really helps.👍👍
Matt I have a problem with my 2003 L 300 Saturn rough idle will not rev pass 2000rpm throttle position sensor was replaced I did not change the gas pedal
Hey Matt, Please tell me how to get the BCM *OUT* of the slide. I saw one RUclipsr said to push down on it and pull toward you. When I do that I can get one side or the other to pop out, but not both. As soon as either the left or right side pops out, the module is on a kilter and in a bind - can't get the other side out. Thanks for your help. Jim
Hey Matt can that BCM still do it's job with the car now running I have an 06 sat vue it can sit still just idling and radio and dash will flicker of press on the break to take off lost of power there or even just turning the steering wheel...one time I turn the car off hit the power lock to lock the vehicle and lost all electric power then but after 3 Minute's or less the interior lights came back on......Could the BCM be the problem. When ground wires are good and hot wires from battery have no corrosion.....plz let me know wut u think
I'm thinking about buying a 08 120k looks super clean what should I look out for? Here in the rust belt the unibody literally just disappeared I'm thinking from the a.c. obv..and it's several I've seen complete section on the back gone..08 with the3.6 vvt do the same?
It's a used motor out of a 07 Vue I used my wiring harness cause there wasn't anything wrong with it I have the wiring harness for the used motor should I have used it...it wouldn't make a difference would it
Hi Matt THANKS A BUNCH for sharing. Got a 2004 Saturn vue red line V6/ 3.5 and has been showing for months a light with a car and a tool wrench inside on the left side of the dashboard, I've been told it means maintenance but have changed motor and transmission oil, spark plugs and after driving it few minutes it comes on. The scanner does not show any code. In a chance would like your advice about it and how to deal/fix it PLEASE 👍
My vue starts blinking for a out 5 mins when you crank it. The radio, dssh lights, inside lights, head and tail lights all blink. The power steering doesn't work either until the blinking/flickering subsides. Happens only in cold weather.
Hi Matt: I have a Saturn vue 2003 that cranks but won't start. I was told that could be the fuel pump. I put both pumps brand new and won't start,but it cranks. What it could be? Thanks.
man its good to see a "mechanical" mechanic. I know you have to have computers, scanners nowa days to work on cars but even with all the tech, there are still no mechanics. most "technicians" don't have a mechanical bone in their bodies. I wish you were in atlanta lol
Question. This may sound so dumb but I used to own a WRX so I promise I learned a lot on the fly with that little baby, and I’m not 100% ignorant. So the fuse box in the engine...there are fuses for the ignition and power windows etc, how the hell do I remove those? Is it cool to just use pliers? Specifically I am trying to remove the 30A for the power windows. I’ve check the inside fuse and replaced the relay box so this is my last shot at the power window issue. However...I seriously have no clue how that sucker comes out. I have a 2004 Saturn Vue but I assume it’s a pretty universal approach...🙏❤️😇 - Gina Marie
I had issues with my driver and passenger windows not rolling up, took it to a Chevy dealer that got all the old Saturn dealership customers when they went out of business. Chevy dealer said it was a bad BCM and quoted me $900 for the BCM and $200 to program it. I said pass and found a local mechanic that said the wiring was just shot. A weekend and $100 later my windows worked. Course now the passenger one is wonky again but I generally don't have passengers and it's a 2003 ION so just keeping it for the next year or so because the AC is shot (leak in the system, the local mechanic that did a great job on my windows just topped off the refrigerant and a few months later it stopped working again) and with 200k miles it's at the point where I'd be better off with a new vehicle.
It's getting fuel an I'm trying to check the fire there's no way to check it it has no plug wires it has plug boots so I'm figuring out a way to do that
Hello, my name is Jose Ilarraza, I have a 2005 Saturn vue - 2.2 engine, fwd, 4 cylinder, I been having issues with the car.. I have spent over $2500 changing parts, and taking it to the mechanic- with no luck.. the check engine light comes on , I plug in the obd scanner and it gives me a P0300 random miss fire , but I replaced the spark plugs, module control unit, oil change, belts, and still the same problem.. I don’t know what to do!!! Can you please help me??
II have a Saturn 2002 L300 145k miles the service light started showing up for 30 sec sporadically , took it to advance auto to search but the code wasn't available,. Then I noticed that the interior lights and lights over the mirror wouldn't work sometimes and now the key fob doesn't want to work and the key acts as though it doesn't want to go in the door lock. Does this sound like a bad body control module? Is the part located in the same place as the vue?
+Harriet McQuay this one sounds at a bit complicated would you like to trade emails or phone numbers? I bet we could put our heads together and figure it out.
THANKS TO YOUR VIDEO BROTHER DETECTS THE FAILURE OF MY L200 2003 ALREADY PURCHASES ANOTHER USED BCM BUT NOW NO ONE CAN PROGRAM IT ":( I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT STEP BY STEP WITH THE GM TECH 2 "OR TELL ME THAT ANOTHER SCANNER COULD PROGRAM IT" GREETINGS FROM LAREDO TX "
ORLANDO GARCIA if it is a used BCM it does not have to be reprogrammed or flashed however the mileage will not be the same as your old BCM because the BCM is where the memory for the mileage is stored so long as it is used you should be able to plug and play but the mileage will read different there is a manual procedure that you can use to relearn your BCM it's about a 30-minute step by step process though you do not need a tech 2 to do it.
DO YOU KNOW HOW IS THIS MANUAL PROCESS? WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT I INSTALL ASI PLUG AND PLAY "AND I CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME" CONTINUES WITHOUT MARKING THE METERS OF THE BOARD "AND IT WILL ONLY BE" BUT DOES NOT BECOME "AND IF I CHANGE THE MILEAGE" PHYSICALLY YOU DO NOT SEE DAMAGE TO ANY OF THE 2 TABLETS I WOULD THANK YOU BEFORE BROO ...: c
My 2009 Saturn Aura's AC stopped working. Tried replacing the heating/ AC control unit it didn't work. I'm thinking it's the body control module. If anyone has any advice it be much appreciated!
I got a 04 Saturn ion 5 speed. All my gauges work battery is fine. But it won't crank won't start.. all the fuses and relays are fine. I got power going to my starter. What do you think it could be?
Great video! I have a 2004 Saturn Ion that will not start in the temp dips below a certain temp. I'm going to try and switch out the ignition switch since my research has shown this might be the issue. Any thoughts?
Hey Matt I’m curious about something I have an 06 Saturn Vue starts up and runs fine until you put it in gear and then it dies every time could I be looking at a bad catalytic converter any input would be really appreciated thanks
Possible yes. When you put it into gear your are putting a load on the engine. It is possible that it is not breathing correctly or that the electrical system is not pushing 12v to the propper areas like coils for spark.
Great video! I have a 2005 Saturn VUE with 46000 original miles on it. My wife drives it and she says the high beams would intermittently turn on on their own when she was driving the other day at night. That same night, the lights turned on automatically while the vehicle was parked in the driveway (we were all asleep at 2:40 a.m. - from the monitoring camera) with no one in the vehicle. It drained the battery. In your opinion, could this be the BCM or Daytime Running Light Sensor or Ambient Lamp Sensor or something else?
I have an 06 Pontiac Grand Prix base.. I've gone through the whole car and disconnected everything electrical cleaned and reconnected all while the battery was disconnected... then unhooked the fuse box cleaned and scotched brighted the grounds and positive connections re assembled it. Replaced the battery, alternator, and starter.. I've replaced the starter and ignition relay. After the relays where replaced I got a service theft system light on the center dash tried doing the relearn and nothing.. I then replaced the locking cylinder and ignition switch and nothing... so now I'm thinking BCM because of weird dash behavior and the car wont start at all and sometimes clicks when I try to turn it over.. I'm at a loss and it's been a pain in my butt XD
Great work Brother! I’m waiting for my new DELCO/ROLA BCM to get here in 2-3 days. Currently experiencing no start on 1999 Grand Prix GTP. Got DTC code P1626 Anti-Theft no fuel delivery mode. Changed the ignition Switch first but still no start. Hopefully it’s the BCM?
Did the bcm fix your problem on the 99 Grand Prix I have a problem where the radio light goes dim the left side of the dash goes Dim sometime it doesn’t wunna start good and it only did it once but everything was pitched black on my 02 Prix I suspect a faulty bcm
Desperately need help with my 04 vue so can you plz connect with me so I can ask question bout bcm on my vue maybe get my family vehicle running Matthew
I have a 2006 Saturn Vue that I drove to the store and came out and it won't start it not the battery but it a no crank and no start could it be the ECM
You can install a push button wired with a fuse straight to the starter. It will bypass the computer. When it won't start, put the key to ON then use the push button.
yea you can.....However be warned when doing this on a modern vehicle. Bypassing the computer is BIG NO NO and can result in very unpleasant consequences. Bypassing the computer upon start up will also bypass safety mechanisms like the neutral safety switch. If you were to ever get into a accident that involved an injury and investigation you might find your self in serious trouble and regardless of who's fault due to the fact that safety mechanisms have been bypassed you will be at fault and liable for everything.
Having these same issues ! Ive replaced the key, battery cables, alternator... The keylock light comes on & it will not start. I used to be able to switch the key back n forth and my guages will jump up. I disconnect the battery and reset the conputer and that worked foe a while but now ive had it disconnected firva week NOTHING and swutching my key back n forth kills my battery . This is aggravating as hell
I'm having trouble with gas gauge and temp gauge too. I have a 2005 Saturn Relay . I bet it is a BCM too. Thanks for the input. I wonder if it is in the same location and if it's as easy to access? If anyone has a idea or a site I can reference, please contact me.
I have 2007 Saturn Vue . After driving it for awhile or going up a hill its like it loses power and doesn't wanna go no matter how much I push the gas . What could be the problem?
I know my car won’t start when the radio won’t work and the button to open my back trunk won’t work. Also my miles on my dashboard won’t show. And power locks didn’t work one time
Hi Matt Thanks for the video. Were you ever able to find a company that could repair or rebuild the motherboard of the BCM? If so did it fix the no start problem? I see you have link to amazon where original equipment BCM can be purchased. I was hoping you had luck in the repaired motherboard of BCM. I appreciate your time.
Hey Thanks for quick reply. I sent BCM to the exact company and they sent it back as repaired, they did some soldering to the BCM motherboard. So far same issues and exactly what you showed in this video.
update on this for now- took out all fuses and checked each one inside engine, if any are worn,look even bit burnt or tiny crack this could cause a issue. After replacing practically all the 10A fuse we have a starting VUE. I took time to mark all fuses and printed fuse guide off www.autogenius.info/saturn-vue-2005-2007-fuse-box-diagram/. Used as a checklist. hope this helps. So BBA-reman might be scamming or maybe "soldering" was done within the BCM we may never know. Issues we are having still are interior lighting. I have to say in video you talk about the fuel cluster, this is now functioning once change of fuse that to knowledge was receiving intermittent current from tiny crack. Thanks Matt for taking time to put video up.
you can reset the anti theft by going through a 30 minute step by step relearn process. email me and i can email you the steps. Using a tech 2 computer makes this process very easy. Highgrooveauto30@gmail.com
no a brand new BCM has to be reprogrammed because it comes completely blank memory for values for things like anti theft. email me highgrooveauto30@gmail.com and i can send you the 30 minute relearn procedure.
You could always take the MB to an electronics repair shop and have the components tested, ought to cost around $20 to do a quick test of the board....Maybe another $30 to replace the bad chip or at least the knowledge that the board is 100% of the problem and not the wiring or the board went bad because of a short in the wiring which is probably the root of the problem and will just burn out another board if not traced and repaired...
Hey Matt i have a 03 l300 with a no start issue no fuel no sprk, i cleaned the connections and the base of the ecm but nothing also ck all the fuses and realays no luck, i also notice that the fuel gauge is all the way to empty , could i have a bad bcm? pls help thxs a lot
problem facing in Chevrolet captiva 2007 manual, DTC U0073, U0121 and P0500 ,,,,suddenly odometer stops working ,all needles(Temperature, rpm, speed etc.) showing 0 reading , ac stops cooling while blower keep running,reverse gear light stops working and all happen intermittently and all together. Can anybody suggest solution?
Matt, I have an issue with the tail lights. When I turn the tail lights on, I hear a clicking sound in the bcm. After replacing fuses and relays, it worked perfect for one day, now no taillights at all. The motherboard has some small burnout by the connector containing the taillight inputs. Change the bcm, can I get one from EBay?
+Boyd Nelson yes you can get a used BCM however the mileage is also stored within the BCM so whatever BCM you buy will have the mileage of the previous car on it and you will have to make a note of that you will not be able to keep your normal mileage or change the mileage the only way you'd be able to do that is if you buy a new BCM and have it reprogrammed by the dealer
I have a similar problem where there is total silence, it doesnt even try to crank. I turn the key and nothing, not a whisper. I disconnect the battery, re-connect, and it usually starts again. So -something- needs resetting *shrug*
I have a 2000 saturn ls1. Having issues, trying to find help! Drove car to the store, started the car it went dead immediately. Got it started again got home, knew the battery was getting weak so i changed the battery. Now it won't stay running. Replaced map sensor, tps, cps, ects, icm, idle air valve, bcm was checked. All tests for compression, fuel pressure, vacuum are good. Still won't stay running. Cuts off after 3 seconds. Security light is not on. Key fob doesn't work. Any ideas? Need the car to run desperately! Anyone have this issue before?
Matthew I have a 2003 saturn vue I can start it up and when I put it it in drove my headlights start to blink and my power locks start locking and unlocking on it's own...i don't know if it's got to do with a alarm or bcm.
It’s good to have people like you that know the ins and outs of cars like this. Manufacturers should be specializing people like you.
Excellent information. I was searching another issue I am having with my 2004 Vue Redline and thought I'd watch your video. I haven't had the BCM issue although my car is often in extreme heat in Arizona. Thanks for posting and don't give up on Saturn Vue. You may be one of the few people in the country that knows these cars so well, better than the dealers.
I know this is an old video, however, here's a tip... You saw signs of heat on the BCM board. You also saw that the silver capacitor can was swollen. This capacitor is an electrolytic type. They are known to have a super high failure rate. Swelling is one sign of failure. Leakage is another. They also commonly fail without any visual indication. It takes electrical test equipment to find those. It is likely that this cap was the total problem. It shorted the circuit and caused the other components to overheat, too. Another point about this particular cap... It is a type that does not have electrical pins that are soldered through the board. It has solder pads, underneath the cap. This is a Surface Mount Device (SMD) type. They require a little more advanced soldering skills to replace, but it can still be replaced easily. This cap, in a high quality brand, should not cost more than a couple of dollars. Because the board still worked to start the car, I would have replaced this cap and then just kept an eye out for any future problems. I do not think any type of reprogramming would have been necessary. You would do well to team up with a local person that has electronics repair skills, just like you have mechanical skills. Thank you for sharing so graciously. I hope this information helps, as well.
t1d100 Do you think it would be good idea to try to replace that capacitor before ill try to replace the BCM(if that is possible)? I have Saturn L200 and it runs great beside the dashboard ruclips.net/video/ieHsSm-jpM0/видео.html I pulled BCM and i can see those "wrinkles"...thanks for the advice
@@hobbypower2 I would not give you direct advice. I have the skills and tools, so, for me, I would give it a try. And, again for me, I would replace the main electrolytic caps as a matter of maintenance/age, even if they showed no signs of failing, because it is so hard to dig the BCM out of the car. If you do not have the skills/tools, find someone that does. HTH.
@@t1d100 Thanks for the reply.... it looks like there is just one aluminum cap on the BCM board so ill try to replace that after cleaning all the grounds on the car .... back in the day I saved quite few power supplies for desktop computers and swollen caps were main failure point but those were mainly radial caps .... time to order caps and dust off soldering iron ....thanks
Matthew,
I own a 2004 saturn vue V6 with no issues as of now. Your video is very informative on current or upcoming issues related to not only the body control modules but the electrical system, as well vehicles from other manufacturers.
Great video Matthew!
Matt, great video. My 2006 SA Vue is exemplifying all the symptoms of a bad BCM, i.e., fuel gauge is erratic, door locks are locking and unlocking by themselves, anti-theft light comes on while the vehicle is running, stalling while driving, major jumping when engaging the gear shifter into drive or into reverse and high idle then low, then high. My gas gauge has been acting erratically for about a yr now.....progressively gotten worse in the last few months. Anytime it's between a 1/2 and 1/4 qtr tank, it will sometimes read empty until I restart the car. This has been very helpful! Thanks
I have 2004 vue for like 10 years and I love it never have a problem with them !! 190k still work strong !
Lucky. I wish mine was like that.
Hey bro I watched every other video and then came upon yours and fixed my issue immediately. Thanks for being the difference bro
Thxs Matt I was thinking about purchasing a 2004 SATURN VUE V6 AWD your comments probably save me a headache on mechanical issues.
Yeah run away. Run very far away!
@@MattShaughnessy6 Hey, I don't have to run away...I just won't go there to buy it. thxs again
Thanks for the video! This should get me on the right track.
Hey dude! Boise here also born and raised here. Got these same intermittent issues in my wifes 2005 ion 1
Unfortunately they have discontinued this part so finding one is going to be a challenge. May have to go used and reprogram but I am still trying to find a new or remanufactured one
Thank you so much...
I am now enlightened
You make my day buddy I have exactly same issue with Saturn vue 3.5
Thanks you for post helpfully video,,, I was about to sell my car to the junk yar,,, nobody can figure out the problem in my SUV, now I know what is the problem,, thank you
Did it work
Good work!
Mine had the same problem and a used BCM got it working fine (except for the odometer). I didn't realize all the heat damage it had until I saw this video; I thought it was some manufacturing coating. Having the odometer fixed after going though a list of mechanics was disappointing - I was told it would cost $800 and I didn't trust that they could complete it. I bought a Tech 2 and got TIS2000 software and TIS2Web from ACDelco: not recommended if your not a dealer or can see exactly how to reprogram the odometer.
I bought a used 07 Saturn aura a few months ago & probably the worst decision I could have ever made!!! it’s been giving me nothing but a headache ever since about the 3rd week. It’s been in the shop 3 different times only for the BCM problem to come right back!! Literally Driving me crazy
so much help. thank you
Excellent I don’t know shit about vehicles but I learned a lot
great video. well done
Great info. Thanks pro!
I hit a deer the other day an had to replace the headlights radiator and fans an.. I was able the drive it home that be morning it's all fixed except. Now it won't start it wants to start only something is stopping it have any ideas with hiding ground wires or crankshaft sensor the oil light stays on when all the other gauges are off
Thanks for this. Same issue on my 06 Vue. Gas gauge won’t move, cranks but no fire. Then hours later it fires up. You ever find out if the dealer had to program the BCM or if there is a workaround for it?
Excellent video - I subscribed immediately. I am in the process of removing the BCM from my 2004 Saturn Vue but have yet to figure out how to physically remove the BCM. The bottom has a tab of some sort that fits into a channel, maybe on the right side only. Any hints?
Hm, this looks like a similar problem to my 2004 Saturn L300. We thought it had run out of gas but after adding at least 5 gallons, it still has power but won't start. When you try, the fuel guage doesn't move (not looked at the temperature panel). It also makes a clicking noise after trying. The garage I took it to says it's the ECM that's bad but could it actually be the BCM?
Hi Matt, you seem to love tough ones so I thought I would share a problem. 1998 Chevy express 2500 4.3L. 1 year ago started stumbling and stalling in reverse. In a few months it progressed todrive and reverse only in drive it was more of a cold running issue. Replaced thermostat and temp sending unit with no change. Engine started stalling while city driving when coming to stops or near idle with gas pedal. After more time it was flooding out on cold starts and would only start holding pedal to floor and a lot of cranking. Replaced CPS and programmed with no change. Finally got to a point of no start. A friend used a Snap on brick and came up with bad MAF sensor. Replaced and ran good for two 3 mile trips, next day started having same issues. Having said all this the puzzle is after the thermostat cycles one time it runs great with the exception of stumbling in reverse intermittently. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I had to have my 2009 vue towed today because of some simular problems.
There was days it done just fine then it started getting worse like the radio and the onstar stopped working at times and the chime would not work or it would be delayed and the turn signal would work but no clicking. And it also wouldn't turn over. The wrecker driver stuck some jumper cables to it and everything started working. Like I said it has not started In the past but if you would wait 5 minutes then it would start but today it didn't work out that way.
have you checked all fuses in engine fuse box?
I’m having trouble with my 2007 Saturn aura XR. How I know the car won’t start is when the gas gauge wouldn’t work before fully starting and the abs light and traction service and service engine light will come on. And sometimes it would start and then randomly while I’m driving the abs light comes on and none of my gauges work and I have to push hard on the gas to go like it’s struggling to accelerate. I’ve almost gotten into an accident because of this. However,yesterday I was stranded at work for two hours cuz my car wouldn’t start but made a single click sound when I tried to start it and then another click when I left off of the key. It’s never done that before so now I’m stuck wondering if it’s really the bcm or a combination of the bcm and the starter
Great video , I just bought a 2005 ion 5 speed. No gas Guage, no crank , no fuel pressure. I can hear a click under the radio and the lock out light is flashing. It has a aftermarket ignition switch in it. I tried the key re-learn, nothing , any thoughts? Thank you for this video , really helps.👍👍
I have a 04 saturn that's doing the same thing but it starts and dies could this be the reason. The body control module
Matt I have a problem with my 2003 L 300 Saturn rough idle will not rev pass 2000rpm throttle position sensor was replaced I did not change the gas pedal
Hi Matthew. Do you have a follow up video on the Saturn Vue BCM replacement and programming
Hey Matt,
Please tell me how to get the BCM *OUT* of the slide. I saw one RUclipsr said to push down on it and pull toward you. When I do that I can get one side or the other to pop out, but not both. As soon as either the left or right side pops out, the module is on a kilter and in a bind - can't get the other side out. Thanks for your help.
Jim
Hey Matt can that BCM still do it's job with the car now running I have an 06 sat vue it can sit still just idling and radio and dash will flicker of press on the break to take off lost of power there or even just turning the steering wheel...one time I turn the car off hit the power lock to lock the vehicle and lost all electric power then but after 3 Minute's or less the interior lights came back on......Could the BCM be the problem. When ground wires are good and hot wires from battery have no corrosion.....plz let me know wut u think
Thank you!
I'm thinking about buying a 08 120k looks super clean what should I look out for? Here in the rust belt the unibody literally just disappeared I'm thinking from the a.c. obv..and it's several I've seen complete section on the back gone..08 with the3.6 vvt do the same?
It's a used motor out of a 07 Vue I used my wiring harness cause there wasn't anything wrong with it I have the wiring harness for the used motor should I have used it...it wouldn't make a difference would it
Hi Matt THANKS A BUNCH for sharing. Got a 2004 Saturn vue red line V6/ 3.5 and has been showing for months a light with a car and a tool wrench inside on the left side of the dashboard, I've been told it means maintenance but have changed motor and transmission oil, spark plugs and after driving it few minutes it comes on. The scanner does not show any code. In a chance would like your advice about it and how to deal/fix it PLEASE 👍
I got the same issue 😔
07 Vue has fire getting fuel new crankshaft sensor, all fues r good spines over just will not start, any ideas?
Hello fellow Shaughnessy!! 😊
Hi! how's It going?
Thank you
Hey I got a 2004 Saturn vue 2.2l it starts and drives but won't shift the rpms just keep going up what could it be
My vue starts blinking for a out 5 mins when you crank it. The radio, dssh lights, inside lights, head and tail lights all blink. The power steering doesn't work either until the blinking/flickering subsides. Happens only in cold weather.
Hi Matt: I have a Saturn vue 2003 that cranks but won't start. I was told that could be the fuel pump. I put both pumps brand new and won't start,but it cranks. What it could be? Thanks.
man its good to see a "mechanical" mechanic. I know you have to have computers, scanners nowa days to work on cars but even with all the tech, there are still no mechanics. most "technicians" don't have a mechanical bone in their bodies. I wish you were in atlanta lol
I have a 2005 vue, they key is not turning the vehicle on, the cluster is the only thing the comes on if I jump it. What could my problem be?
It's amazing how bad dealer service departments can be. Sometimes it seems they're just trying to run ap a $600 plus bill on everyone they can.
Nice video. Good info. But, there is always a but, the cause of the overheating needs to be addressed. I am not criticizing.
Do you know why my dome light would stay on while driving only it happened after replaced battery
Question. This may sound so dumb but I used to own a WRX so I promise I learned a lot on the fly with that little baby, and I’m not 100% ignorant. So the fuse box in the engine...there are fuses for the ignition and power windows etc, how the hell do I remove those? Is it cool to just use pliers? Specifically I am trying to remove the 30A for the power windows. I’ve check the inside fuse and replaced the relay box so this is my last shot at the power window issue. However...I seriously have no clue how that sucker comes out. I have a 2004 Saturn Vue but I assume it’s a pretty universal approach...🙏❤️😇 - Gina Marie
I had issues with my driver and passenger windows not rolling up, took it to a Chevy dealer that got all the old Saturn dealership customers when they went out of business. Chevy dealer said it was a bad BCM and quoted me $900 for the BCM and $200 to program it. I said pass and found a local mechanic that said the wiring was just shot. A weekend and $100 later my windows worked. Course now the passenger one is wonky again but I generally don't have passengers and it's a 2003 ION so just keeping it for the next year or so because the AC is shot (leak in the system, the local mechanic that did a great job on my windows just topped off the refrigerant and a few months later it stopped working again) and with 200k miles it's at the point where I'd be better off with a new vehicle.
Is the BCM in the same location on a 2001 Saturn l300? Thanks for any info. Im having the same issue with mine.
We have a 2002 Saturn Vue that won’t stay started it shakes and dies. It will start but won’t stay started. Any suggestions
It's getting fuel an I'm trying to check the fire there's no way to check it it has no plug wires it has plug boots so I'm figuring out a way to do that
Hello, my name is Jose Ilarraza, I have a 2005 Saturn vue - 2.2 engine, fwd, 4 cylinder, I been having issues with the car.. I have spent over $2500 changing parts, and taking it to the mechanic- with no luck.. the check engine light comes on , I plug in the obd scanner and it gives me a P0300 random miss fire , but I replaced the spark plugs, module control unit, oil change, belts, and still the same problem.. I don’t know what to do!!! Can you please help me??
II have a Saturn 2002 L300 145k miles the service light started showing up for 30 sec sporadically , took it to advance auto to search but the code wasn't available,. Then I noticed that the interior lights and lights over the mirror wouldn't work sometimes and now the key fob doesn't want to work and the key acts as though it doesn't want to go in the door lock. Does this sound like a bad body control module? Is the part located in the same place as the vue?
+Harriet McQuay this one sounds at a bit complicated would you like to trade emails or phone numbers? I bet we could put our heads together and figure it out.
Hi Matt. Great video! At the end, you mentioned that you would look into sending it out for a rebuild and reprogram. What ever became of that?
Nothing good.....buy a used one from a junk yard that will allow you to return.
@@MattShaughnessy6 ..are you on Facebook or how can I reach you
@@brookslegacytrucking7279 highgrooveauto30@gmail.com or find me on facebook
Would this stop your taillights from working?
I wish you lived in Wisconsin I am having this same issue on my truck.
Look and Mite be buying a 2004 Saturn Ion 2 2.2L what do say about this car and If The BCM does go where can I pick one up…?
I have a Vue that blew a spark plug. Broke the coil that was hanging out and now won't start at all. Any idea???
GOOD VIDEO BROO IT HAS HELPED ME A LOT"
ORLANDO GARCIA thank you glad it has helped!
THANKS TO YOUR VIDEO BROTHER DETECTS THE FAILURE OF MY L200 2003 ALREADY PURCHASES ANOTHER USED BCM BUT
NOW NO ONE CAN PROGRAM IT ":(
I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT STEP BY STEP WITH THE GM TECH 2 "OR TELL ME THAT ANOTHER SCANNER COULD PROGRAM IT" GREETINGS FROM LAREDO TX "
ORLANDO GARCIA if it is a used BCM it does not have to be reprogrammed or flashed however the mileage will not be the same as your old BCM because the BCM is where the memory for the mileage is stored so long as it is used you should be able to plug and play but the mileage will read different there is a manual procedure that you can use to relearn your BCM it's about a 30-minute step by step process though you do not need a tech 2 to do it.
DO YOU KNOW HOW IS THIS MANUAL PROCESS? WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT I INSTALL ASI PLUG AND PLAY "AND I CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME" CONTINUES WITHOUT MARKING THE METERS OF THE BOARD "AND IT WILL ONLY BE" BUT DOES NOT BECOME "AND IF I CHANGE THE MILEAGE" PHYSICALLY YOU DO NOT SEE DAMAGE TO ANY OF THE 2 TABLETS
I WOULD THANK YOU BEFORE BROO ...: c
what are you experiencing with Vehicle? Make?Model?
My 2009 Saturn Aura's AC stopped working. Tried replacing the heating/ AC control unit it didn't work. I'm thinking it's the body control module. If anyone has any advice it be much appreciated!
I got a 04 Saturn ion 5 speed. All my gauges work battery is fine. But it won't crank won't start.. all the fuses and relays are fine. I got power going to my starter. What do you think it could be?
My Chevy Cobalt had the same issue it was a ground wire called g105 to the transmission maybe that might help you
Great video! I have a 2004 Saturn Ion that will not start in the temp dips below a certain temp. I'm going to try and switch out the ignition switch since my research has shown this might be the issue. Any thoughts?
Did you? And did it work? I just got a recall on ignition. Having problems. Please and thanks.
@@lilygrace9111 yes it did!
I also noticed intermittent smoke coming out of steering wheel when applying brakes.
Yup I think this happen to my saturn sky 2.0 or its my clutch position stater switch
Hey Matt I’m curious about something I have an 06 Saturn Vue starts up and runs fine until you put it in gear and then it dies every time could I be looking at a bad catalytic converter any input would be really appreciated thanks
Possible yes. When you put it into gear your are putting a load on the engine. It is possible that it is not breathing correctly or that the electrical system is not pushing 12v to the propper areas like coils for spark.
You are awesome where did you get the module ? How do I order one
Great video! I have a 2005 Saturn VUE with 46000 original miles on it. My wife drives it and she says the high beams would intermittently turn on on their own when she was driving the other day at night. That same night, the lights turned on automatically while the vehicle was parked in the driveway (we were all asleep at 2:40 a.m. - from the monitoring camera) with no one in the vehicle. It drained the battery. In your opinion, could this be the BCM or Daytime Running Light Sensor or Ambient Lamp Sensor or something else?
fuse box short.
I have an 06 Pontiac Grand Prix base.. I've gone through the whole car and disconnected everything electrical cleaned and reconnected all while the battery was disconnected... then unhooked the fuse box cleaned and scotched brighted the grounds and positive connections re assembled it. Replaced the battery, alternator, and starter.. I've replaced the starter and ignition relay. After the relays where replaced I got a service theft system light on the center dash tried doing the relearn and nothing.. I then replaced the locking cylinder and ignition switch and nothing... so now I'm thinking BCM because of weird dash behavior and the car wont start at all and sometimes clicks when I try to turn it over.. I'm at a loss and it's been a pain in my butt XD
What about a Saturn aura 2005 its alrma will go off of I have the doors open even if I unlock with my fob if I don't insert my key
Great work Brother!
I’m waiting for my new DELCO/ROLA BCM to get here in 2-3 days. Currently experiencing no start on 1999 Grand Prix GTP. Got DTC code P1626 Anti-Theft no fuel delivery mode. Changed the ignition Switch first but still no start. Hopefully it’s the BCM?
Who you get to program yours
Did the bcm fix your problem on the 99 Grand Prix I have a problem where the radio light goes dim the left side of the dash goes Dim sometime it doesn’t wunna start good and it only did it once but everything was pitched black on my 02 Prix I suspect a faulty bcm
Desperately need help with my 04 vue so can you plz connect with me so I can ask question bout bcm on my vue maybe get my family vehicle running Matthew
I have a 2006 Saturn Vue that I drove to the store and came out and it won't start it not the battery but it a no crank and no start could it be the ECM
You can install a push button wired with a fuse straight to the starter. It will bypass the computer. When it won't start, put the key to ON then use the push button.
yea you can.....However be warned when doing this on a modern vehicle. Bypassing the computer is BIG NO NO and can result in very unpleasant consequences. Bypassing the computer upon start up will also bypass safety mechanisms like the neutral safety switch. If you were to ever get into a accident that involved an injury and investigation you might find your self in serious trouble and regardless of who's fault due to the fact that safety mechanisms have been bypassed you will be at fault and liable for everything.
Having these same issues ! Ive replaced the key, battery cables, alternator... The keylock light comes on & it will not start. I used to be able to switch the key back n forth and my guages will jump up. I disconnect the battery and reset the conputer and that worked foe a while but now ive had it disconnected firva week NOTHING and swutching my key back n forth kills my battery . This is aggravating as hell
im looking for help on a 2000 sl1 saturn 4 door starts and dies with a security light on and in ten minutes or so it will start and run fine any help?
Rick Salyars email me. Highgrooveauto30@gmail.com. lets put see if we can figure it out.
I'm having trouble with gas gauge and temp gauge too. I have a 2005 Saturn Relay . I bet it is a BCM too. Thanks for the input. I wonder if it is in the same location and if it's as easy to access? If anyone has a idea or a site I can reference, please contact me.
Email me if you would like and I will try to help. I check my email several times a day because it gets filled up fast. highgrooveauto30@gmail.com
So does the dealership need to reprogram them
I have 2007 Saturn Vue . After driving it for awhile or going up a hill its like it loses power and doesn't wanna go no matter how much I push the gas . What could be the problem?
Probably clogged convertor.
great stuf
Where’s the tcm by module in the glove compartment
I know my car won’t start when the radio won’t work and the button to open my back trunk won’t work. Also my miles on my dashboard won’t show. And power locks didn’t work one time
Where can I find body control manual
Hi Matt
Thanks for the video. Were you ever able to find a company that could repair or rebuild the motherboard of the BCM? If so did it fix the no start problem? I see you have link to amazon where original equipment BCM can be purchased. I was hoping you had luck in the repaired motherboard of BCM. I appreciate your time.
try these guys.......us-shop.bba-reman.com/shop/vehicle-makes/saturn/saturn-vue-body-control-module/
Hey Thanks for quick reply. I sent BCM to the exact company and they sent it back as repaired, they did some soldering to the BCM motherboard. So far same issues and exactly what you showed in this video.
update on this for now- took out all fuses and checked each one inside engine, if any are worn,look even bit burnt or tiny crack this could cause a issue. After replacing practically all the 10A fuse we have a starting VUE. I took time to mark all fuses and printed fuse guide off www.autogenius.info/saturn-vue-2005-2007-fuse-box-diagram/. Used as a checklist. hope this helps. So BBA-reman might be scamming or maybe "soldering" was done within the BCM we may never know. Issues we are having still are interior lighting. I have to say in video you talk about the fuel cluster, this is now functioning once change of fuse that to knowledge was receiving intermittent current from tiny crack.
Thanks Matt for taking time to put video up.
can i get a junkyard bcm and install it?
Hi, matt I had a 2002 Saturn l200 which die on me while driving and want start no now what wrong white my car. No check engine light or codes
I have the same problem. Did you figure out what's wrong with it?
Any ideas about how to reprogram the BCM...
you can reset the anti theft by going through a 30 minute step by step relearn process. email me and i can email you the steps. Using a tech 2 computer makes this process very easy. Highgrooveauto30@gmail.com
ruclips.net/video/p9r-914J6bI/видео.html apparently this works....
Thanks buddy. My 06 is doing something similar. Can the vehicle be driven with a new bcm but not programmed by the dealer?
no a brand new BCM has to be reprogrammed because it comes completely blank memory for values for things like anti theft. email me highgrooveauto30@gmail.com and i can send you the 30 minute relearn procedure.
hey can I get that from you too....
You could always take the MB to an electronics repair shop and have the components tested, ought to cost around $20 to do a quick test of the board....Maybe another $30 to replace the bad chip or at least the knowledge that the board is 100% of the problem and not the wiring or the board went bad because of a short in the wiring which is probably the root of the problem and will just burn out another board if not traced and repaired...
Hey Matt i have a 03 l300 with a no start issue no fuel no sprk, i cleaned the connections and the base of the ecm but nothing also ck all the fuses and realays no luck, i also notice that the fuel gauge is all the way to empty , could i have a bad bcm? pls help thxs a lot
ruclips.net/video/dFAaCcbgTrI/видео.html. I answer your question and give you some thoughts and ideas here. thanks for watching!!
Where ru located? I have a L300 that’s been in the shop for 2 weeks. Waiting on a pcm now hoping that will fix it 😭
idaho
problem facing in Chevrolet captiva 2007 manual, DTC U0073, U0121 and P0500 ,,,,suddenly odometer stops working ,all needles(Temperature, rpm, speed etc.) showing 0 reading , ac stops cooling while blower keep running,reverse gear light stops working and all happen intermittently and all together. Can anybody suggest solution?
Hey bud 2006 Saturn vue 2.2 intermittent no start code po1682 fuel gage in op and car outline with a wrench in middle and no rpms
Matt, I have an issue with the tail lights. When I turn the tail lights on, I hear a clicking sound in the bcm. After replacing fuses and relays, it worked perfect for one day, now no taillights at all. The motherboard has some small burnout by the connector containing the taillight inputs. Change the bcm, can I get one from EBay?
+Boyd Nelson yes you can get a used BCM however the mileage is also stored within the BCM so whatever BCM you buy will have the mileage of the previous car on it and you will have to make a note of that you will not be able to keep your normal mileage or change the mileage the only way you'd be able to do that is if you buy a new BCM and have it reprogrammed by the dealer
Okay, I was a great
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I have a similar problem where there is total silence, it doesnt even try to crank. I turn the key and nothing, not a whisper. I disconnect the battery, re-connect, and it usually starts again. So -something- needs resetting *shrug*
Me too. Loss of power steering as well. Did you figure it out?
How can I take bcm out ?
What If the ignition won’t turn at all?!?
I have a 2000 saturn ls1. Having issues, trying to find help! Drove car to the store, started the car it went dead immediately. Got it started again got home, knew the battery was getting weak so i changed the battery. Now it won't stay running. Replaced map sensor, tps, cps, ects, icm, idle air valve, bcm was checked. All tests for compression, fuel pressure, vacuum are good. Still won't stay running. Cuts off after 3 seconds. Security light is not on. Key fob doesn't work. Any ideas? Need the car to run desperately! Anyone have this issue before?
Matthew I have a 2003 saturn vue I can start it up and when I put it it in drove my headlights start to blink and my power locks start locking and unlocking on it's own...i don't know if it's got to do with a alarm or bcm.