I think near the end you meant to say that you and your buddies would ride with the 51s with the minimum tension but a beginner who is nervous might ride with the 56. Instead you say both would ride with 56. It's a bit confusing.
I've been mountain biking for 25 plus years and I have always used 56's. Way better for releasing and clipping in. I have used 51's, but they can be hard to get out of sometimes, IMO. Peace of mind that you know you can unclip fast!
I have never tried 56's, but it sounds like it would be very easy to unintentionally dismount. I currently ride 51's with XT trail pedals and have set the retention spring to max tension. Even then I have had some accidental dismounts in fast, tight berms or mid-air when trying to whip the bike around to initiate a line change. It's either flats of 51's for me, since both require a very different riding style and provide good security. I wouldn't trust 56's since accidental dismounts mid-air or in a rock garden are way too scary and risky. I have even considered using Shimano's BMX race specific pedals, since they have stronger retention springs that the MTB version.
This video would have been great 2 months ago. I'm a road cyclist and wasn't familiar with SPD pedals so I got the 56 for my cyclocross bike (because it was the only one at the store). I find that at the start sprint of a CX race I sometimes unclip by accident which messes up my position on the race =(
56 releases too easily, I find. I'm a very experienced rider, and whenever I apply more force, be it up a hill or just wanting to go fast, they release at the worst moment. My foot just comes right out. I have to make an effort to keep my foot flat, and resist the natural movement, or they'll come out. And even then, with more effort, they'll still release. I didn't get them intentionally - at first, I didn't know there were 2 types. It was in buying some pedals that came with this type, instead of the 51 type, that I found out about this. So of course, I'm switching to the 51. I use the equivalent in Wellgo and Exustar, which also make these, and sell them at a far more reasonable price. Ditto for their pedals, which are equivalent, and often lighter weight than the Shimano equivalents (Exustar is about 30% lighter).
I started using clipless one year ago and used SH51. Unfortunately I crashed twice already with some nasty gash on my legs on the first and hematoma on my left inner thigh the second time around. Despite this, I see the benefit of clipless especially on longer rides with my adventure bike. Will try the SH56.
@@karlblockstock2579 I never got around to using the SH56😊. Continued using what I have and just made some mental practice. With it came muscle memory. If someone will start out with cleated pedals, I think it will benefit them using the 56 first.
I have always used 51s but I didnt know there are more types of cleats. Than I changed shoes and mounted 56s without realizing. I almost crashed at first trail, unclipping my foot just by pulling upward. 56s unclip really light compared to 51. I would recommend 56s for beginners or very recreational riders. For more serious riding only 51s :)
*Great **Latest.Bike** , good looking, good suspension and love the gearing. I've tested some bikes that were more then twice the price but not as good. Get lots of looks when riding.*
Warning: Old Retro Grouch here! The phrase "clipless" derived from the absence of TOE CLIPS. Clips, clipping in, clipping out, etc are all misnomers when used in conjunction with info about clip less pedals...there are NO "clips" in clip less pedal systems..hence the phrase...clip less. Modern systems use cleats...not clips..there is a substantial mechanical difference between the two. I got my very first pair of clip less Look road pedals in 1987 and yes I clearly remember falling over the very first time I used them on my commute home. Yes, I know road pedals are different than Mt/Commute pedals such as the ones in this video but the basics of using them are very much the same. Push down and forward to engage..twist to disengage. With some practice, clip less pedals are easy and intuitive to use with either 56 or 51. Sure there is a difference in the chamfer/cut of these two cleats, that requires more intentional effort to release but they are more similar than different. I think its also important to check and adjust the spring tension on the pedals themselves as well as making sure that the cleats mount to your shoes with enough clearance around them to allow the pedal to easily engage and disengage. The rubber on the sole of mt/commute cycling shoes varies from brand to brand and you may have to trim some away to allow the cleat enough room to easily engage the pedal. Mounting the cleats securely/tightly and making sure the angle is correct are also important. Some of that requires trial and error...and dont forget to take a wrench with you on your first few rides with new cleats ....the mounting screws can work loose. Ive been using Shimano, Ritchey, Time and Look pedals since 1986, long distance tours, commuting, century rides and mild mt riding. Yeah...Im an old school bike snob, I earned my snob credentials. Clipless pedals are SAFER than ancient toe clips w straps...MUCH SAFER! There is no such thing as being.."locked in" with clipless pedals...there is no padlock, no key and no deadbolt....only a spring loaded bail, which itself was derived from downhill ski bindings from the Look ski division. I used toe clips and straps as a teenager in the 1970s, early 80s..they sucked just as much as Sew Up tires of the same era..thank god for modern SAFE equipment.
frank doster just adjust the spring pressure on both sides to same tension. Loosen them up at first. Get real comfy make it second nature and enjoy. The 56 is great for casual riding. The 51 is firmer for going faster since the 56 can release on the upstroke.
You and your buddies use 51 correct? Because you said 56 in the video. 56 would be for real beginners who are really afraid of not being able to unclip?
I got some of these but unfortunately at least in the case of Shimano PDM424 pedals, they function no differently to the standard cleats at all. A fraction easier to release yes, but as far as release angles etc, no difference :( I have some other pedals I might try with those at some point. If you have any advice though i'd appreciate it.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
7 лет назад
HEllo and thanks for your videos, Question: You recomended use MTB pedals for Roll in road bikes? thanks :) Im new in road bike and i looking for buy mi pedals and bike shoes.
Unless you're physically inept like my grandmother you should get the normal cleats. It's fairly easy to get used to. I don't see the need for beginner cleats.
The 56 cleats are actually dangerous imo because they come unclipped by accident if you're really torquing the bike with powerful pedaling (e.g. up a steep hill or riding fixed gear)
56 are the best cleats for touring and urban riding, in my opinion. First, because they're more likely to let go in an accident. 51s will drag you down the road if your bike gets stuck under a car (yes, this happened to me). Also, for touring, there's unclipping at the end of the day. On long group rides (150+) it's not unusual for someone to yell out "I can't unclip". Low tension and 56s would be good for those people.
i see you are still using mtb pedals on roadbikes. it would be wrong tu use roadbike pedals on mtb bikes? just got a brand new mtb, but my shoes are for my old roadbike... can it be done? thanks Dany
Great channel. Might be helpful for a bit of context here on clipless choice for beginners. When I started a few years ago, cycle shop sold me the mountain bike shimano pedals, for road cycling. I found them hard to use but didn't know better...when I found the road type shimanos, they were way better, easier to use. I know its a matter of personal preference largely, but beginners should take note that the road shimanos are a great option to consider off the bat. Key is to practice before you go out on the road and get used to remembering to clip out - not so much the difficulty of getting unclipped, just not forgetting!
I think near the end you meant to say that you and your buddies would ride with the 51s with the minimum tension but a beginner who is nervous might ride with the 56. Instead you say both would ride with 56. It's a bit confusing.
The discussion at 1:24 is incorrect - he's says he's describing the -56, but that applies to the -51.
I've been mountain biking for 25 plus years and I have always used 56's. Way better for releasing and clipping in. I have used 51's, but they can be hard to get out of sometimes, IMO. Peace of mind that you know you can unclip fast!
You've been a pussy that long?
I agree with you a 100%. I would never practice MTB with the 51. I go with the 56 all the way.
I have never tried 56's, but it sounds like it would be very easy to unintentionally dismount. I currently ride 51's with XT trail pedals and have set the retention spring to max tension. Even then I have had some accidental dismounts in fast, tight berms or mid-air when trying to whip the bike around to initiate a line change. It's either flats of 51's for me, since both require a very different riding style and provide good security. I wouldn't trust 56's since accidental dismounts mid-air or in a rock garden are way too scary and risky. I have even considered using Shimano's BMX race specific pedals, since they have stronger retention springs that the MTB version.
pushing the heal inwards ... is a bad habit to get yourself in as you will catch your heal on the rear wheel..beginner be aware!
This is a very confusing video as you seem to be mixing up 51 and 56 clips.
Only confusing for people, who are not all that bright! :-)
He says 56 sometimes when he means 51
I guess Im pretty off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch new tv shows online?
This video would have been great 2 months ago. I'm a road cyclist and wasn't familiar with SPD pedals so I got the 56 for my cyclocross bike (because it was the only one at the store). I find that at the start sprint of a CX race I sometimes unclip by accident which messes up my position on the race =(
56 releases too easily, I find. I'm a very experienced rider, and whenever I apply more force, be it up a hill or just wanting to go fast, they release at the worst moment. My foot just comes right out. I have to make an effort to keep my foot flat, and resist the natural movement, or they'll come out. And even then, with more effort, they'll still release. I didn't get them intentionally - at first, I didn't know there were 2 types. It was in buying some pedals that came with this type, instead of the 51 type, that I found out about this. So of course, I'm switching to the 51. I use the equivalent in Wellgo and Exustar, which also make these, and sell them at a far more reasonable price. Ditto for their pedals, which are equivalent, and often lighter weight than the Shimano equivalents (Exustar is about 30% lighter).
I started using clipless one year ago and used SH51. Unfortunately I crashed twice already with some nasty gash on my legs on the first and hematoma on my left inner thigh the second time around. Despite this, I see the benefit of clipless especially on longer rides with my adventure bike. Will try the SH56.
That wasn't a hematoma. You were on your period
@@aaronsbraga nothing worthwhile to do? I get a rare notification from youtube and I see an absolutely STUPID comment for a post I made 3 years ago..
@@mhannixd541 You got me ROFL 🤣
@@mhannixd541 how is the sh56
@@karlblockstock2579 I never got around to using the SH56😊. Continued using what I have and just made some mental practice. With it came muscle memory. If someone will start out with cleated pedals, I think it will benefit them using the 56 first.
I got 56 and in the stiffer spring setting is really hard to declip by accident but still so easy to do when you want
51 is for pros
I have always used 51s but I didnt know there are more types of cleats. Than I changed shoes and mounted 56s without realizing. I almost crashed at first trail, unclipping my foot just by pulling upward. 56s unclip really light compared to 51. I would recommend 56s for beginners or very recreational riders. For more serious riding only 51s :)
*Great **Latest.Bike** , good looking, good suspension and love the gearing. I've tested some bikes that were more then twice the price but not as good. Get lots of looks when riding.*
Warning: Old Retro Grouch here!
The phrase "clipless" derived from the absence of TOE CLIPS.
Clips, clipping in, clipping out, etc are all misnomers when used in conjunction with info about clip less pedals...there are NO "clips" in clip less pedal systems..hence the phrase...clip less.
Modern systems use cleats...not clips..there is a substantial mechanical difference between the two.
I got my very first pair of clip less Look road pedals in 1987 and yes I clearly remember falling over the very first time I used them on my commute home. Yes, I know road pedals are different than Mt/Commute pedals such as the ones in this video but the basics of using them are very much the same. Push down and forward to engage..twist to disengage.
With some practice, clip less pedals are easy and intuitive to use with either 56 or 51. Sure there is a difference in the chamfer/cut of these two cleats, that requires more intentional effort to release but they are more similar than different. I think its also important to check and adjust the spring tension on the pedals themselves as well as making sure that the cleats mount to your shoes with enough clearance around them to allow the pedal to easily engage and disengage. The rubber on the sole of mt/commute cycling shoes varies from brand to brand and you may have to trim some away to allow the cleat enough room to easily engage the pedal.
Mounting the cleats securely/tightly and making sure the angle is correct are also important. Some of that requires trial and error...and dont forget to take a wrench with you on your first few rides with new cleats ....the mounting screws can work loose.
Ive been using Shimano, Ritchey, Time and Look pedals since 1986, long distance tours, commuting, century rides and mild mt riding. Yeah...Im an old school bike snob, I earned my snob credentials.
Clipless pedals are SAFER than ancient toe clips w straps...MUCH SAFER! There is no such thing as being.."locked in" with clipless pedals...there is no padlock, no key and no deadbolt....only a spring loaded bail, which itself was derived from downhill ski bindings from the Look ski division.
I used toe clips and straps as a teenager in the 1970s, early 80s..they sucked just as much as Sew Up tires of the same era..thank god for modern SAFE equipment.
I got my first clipless pedals a couple months ago and chose the SH-56. Getting used to them on Zwift, while waiting fro the Spring :-)
Wonderful to have on hand for little ones.
Whatever you choose begginers pick mix pedals with both clips on one side and flat on the other. Thats my advice
Bro, what’s the purpose of the 2 bolts above the shoes?
thanks for the info, getting my first pair of clipless shoes, worried. I will break my neck. I will try smh56
frank doster just adjust the spring pressure on both sides to same tension. Loosen them up at first. Get real comfy make it second nature and enjoy. The 56 is great for casual riding. The 51 is firmer for going faster since the 56 can release on the upstroke.
I think to get sh56 cleats for winter use.
What about SM-SH55 and SM-SH52?
The bike shops are busy now. Are Shimano Pedals PD RS 500 MPD pedals?
You and your buddies use 51 correct? Because you said 56 in the video. 56 would be for real beginners who are really afraid of not being able to unclip?
56 are also for general riding. I use them for touring. After 200 km, unclipping and getting ofc the bike need to be as easy as possible. 😄
Watched this after I crashed with my 3 years old daughter. My M520 pedals came with SH51 cleats. Wish I knew these informations before that.
II have been riding cleats for 35 years and I don't think I would use them with a kid on back.
Many thanks for your video. I am just starting and it has been very helpful.
¡Saludos!
Thank you sir you might just saved my life
I got some of these but unfortunately at least in the case of Shimano PDM424 pedals, they function no differently to the standard cleats at
all. A fraction easier to release yes, but as far as release angles etc, no difference :( I have some other pedals I might try with those at
some point. If you have any advice though i'd appreciate it.
Did you set the tension adjustment screw close to zero?
Thank you! That was super helpful.
Thank you for the very helpful vid.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
HEllo and thanks for your videos, Question: You recomended use MTB pedals for Roll in road bikes? thanks :) Im new in road bike and i looking for buy mi pedals and bike shoes.
It's not necessary that mtb shoes n pedals in road bike I've seen riders using mtb pedals I've ordered my first pair of cleats shoes n pedals
Can I use the SH56 even not on a Shimano pedal?
Unless you're physically inept like my grandmother you should get the normal cleats. It's fairly easy to get used to. I don't see the need for beginner cleats.
The 56 cleats are actually dangerous imo because they come unclipped by accident if you're really torquing the bike with powerful pedaling (e.g. up a steep hill or riding fixed gear)
Unless you’re a pro that look for the extra 5% or whatever efficiency rate it gives get a 56 because your not looking for times but safety
56 are the best cleats for touring and urban riding, in my opinion. First, because they're more likely to let go in an accident. 51s will drag you down the road if your bike gets stuck under a car (yes, this happened to me). Also, for touring, there's unclipping at the end of the day. On long group rides (150+) it's not unusual for someone to yell out "I can't unclip". Low tension and 56s would be good for those people.
do either of these cleats give you any float ?
Yes, around 8 degrees from memory. Given some movement of your foot in your shoe, it's a bit more in practice.
Thanks for the tips !
Thank you!
SM SH56 = Look X-Track Easy Cleat?
1:18 you said 56 but you meant 51!
i see you are still using mtb pedals on roadbikes. it would be wrong tu use roadbike pedals on mtb bikes? just got a brand new mtb, but my shoes are for my old roadbike... can it be done? thanks Dany
koolfoolable thanks a lot!
Are the actual cleats different for both versions?
palmer3977 that’s the point- only cleats are different.
Great channel. Might be helpful for a bit of context here on clipless choice for beginners. When I started a few years ago, cycle shop sold me the mountain bike shimano pedals, for road cycling. I found them hard to use but didn't know better...when I found the road type shimanos, they were way better, easier to use. I know its a matter of personal preference largely, but beginners should take note that the road shimanos are a great option to consider off the bat. Key is to practice before you go out on the road and get used to remembering to clip out - not so much the difficulty of getting unclipped, just not forgetting!
Thanks :)
You dont show the differences…
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how much that shoes and pedal set ?
56 cleat on wifes shoe, 51 on mine. Ive been clipless for 20 yrs, however wife is yet to try hers. She’s a big chicken.
Retro Dude, Old man on his bikes oh she’s so me. Unless that’s I’m not a wife .. oh man but your comment made me laugh
Your information is inaccurate and flat out wrong. 51 is the one-direction-release, and the 56 is the multi-direction. Conclusion: video sucks!
He did say it correctly a few times but definitely messed it up a bunch so I was left confused a bit
Can u donate me some of that pls?
Yeahhh I'm the 1K like in this Video
how much that shoes and pedal set ?