Can Case Knives redeem themselves?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Case Large Stockman Micarta. Let's open it together and see if I got a good one, or another lemon, shall we?
This unboxing will likely decide if I ever buy another Case knife.
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I just got into traditionals and the 4 case knives I just bought have been of really nice quality, so maybe I’ve just been lucky so far
When they are good, they are pretty good. But my experience is so hit or miss with them, that I won't buy another one unless I can handle it and inspect it personally.
Don't care if the edge comes toothy, as long as the grind is good (GEC comes toothy too), and I'm happy with Tru-sharp steel even though many folks are rude about it. But do Case make a good knife? Yes, when they want to. Too often though they don't - their Quality Control is non-existent. To put in context, I return 1 in 10 GECs but I return 4 in 5 Cases. Here in the UK it's almost impossible to buy these knives other than by mail order, but if you can possibly examine a knife before you buy, that's the way to go - particularly with Case. Great presentation of three similar knives from three different brands, enjoyed that.
To avoid blade rub on a Stockman, always open the central blade (usually Sheepfoot) before either of the others, then close it again after you've opened the blade you want to use. Not everyone can be bothered with that rigmarole though.
If you use your knives, they get scratched up anyways. I don't really bother with it anymore.
I got a bad RR once and gave them a call. Wasn't even put on hold. Talked to a real person and I received replacement in less than a week.
Great video very informative like the way you don't cut the crap 👍
I like Case knives. The TUESDAY Case knives🤣
Exactly. When you get a good one, it's pretty good. But so many aren't.
Okay , it’s great to see somebody putting out videos on traditional slipjoints again . Most seem to have fallen off the radar a couple three or four years ago . You are spot in about the toothy edges on Case knives . Every one I’ve ever gotten has been that . Most have a burr on one side so it’s obvious on which side was put to the grinder last . I believe what Case calls their “Tru Sharp” steel is equal to a 420hc which is what Buck went to in later years . Maybe like a 440c and not as good as 440a . It’s good pocket knife steel though . A bit sad about you’re bone handled stockman . You should return it and have them make things right .
Gotta get up early for a doctors appointment in the morning but I’ll watch more if your stuff when I get a chance .
Keep it going man !
Yeah, I sent in that bone handled Case stockman a couple weeks ago... I will be doing a follow up review on the knife they return to me, the process, etc...
Same experience with Case. I wanted one for a while and bought a stockman on sale at a hardware store packaged in a clamshell pack. They are packaged with the blades open. the sheepsfoot blade was so bent it had a curve in it like a pringle potato chip. I returned it and never bought another one again. Then last Christmas I got a small Case trapper with a bone handle from my mom and it is a beautiful knife. This one came in a box. It is my favorite watch pocket knife. I think the issue with Case is that they're handmade and they don't pay attention to quality control.
Yeah, their red trapper that I have in the video is pretty good... but even that one, a "good one" isn't as well made as the Rough Ryder Reserves that I have...
I have purchased about 40 Case knives of many models, materials and sizes in the last few years. I am finding that quality is very good as a rule. Some sharpening and a little oil are necessary sometimes. I have only returned one trapper. I am happy with Case's quality vs price. Good video.
I had always heard that, but in my recent experience its been very hit or miss... more miss than hit. WHen you get a good one, its GOOD.
But when I compare it to Rough Rider Reserve, who are nearly all good and better than even the good Case knives... it's hard to pick Case these days, at least for me...
Good job
Would love to see Case go back to the quality of the old days
If Case would stop tumbling everything and put some more into blending and finishing they would have something worth what they charge.
They cut a lot of corners to try and keep costs down, which I get.. But honestly, I would rather than put a little more time and effort into their knives to make sure that ALL of them are up to standard, and would gladly pay more for them. But when other companies produce twice the knife for half the cost, its hard to justify or recommend their products.
But yeah, if they put in the effort, would I pay $100 for what is today a $64 Case knife, knowing its been made properly? Hell YES.
I have a green bone sea horse whittler . It’s a beautiful knife until you look at the back spacers. The small blades have the weakest springs and the grinds are uneven . Even the large blade isn’t all that snappy . I have a Halloween collectible that is pretty good but it has that nearly useless serrated russlock . I wish I could replace it with the drop point .
yeah, I won't buy a Case knife unless I can personally inspect it first. They are way too hit or miss to buy one blindly...
Man am I nervous (I was excited) ...I bought a 6375 amber bone jumbo stockman with a med job sheath and its going to be here tomorrow, this will be my first Case knife. I hope I'm not disappointed. My 2nd concern is if I got the right sheath, all they give is some measurements that it will fit a 4.5" closed knife, my is 4.25" so it should be the right one but there is no info on what sheath to get.
Just and update...The knife arrived today and I'm very happy, got a good one, the knife was purchased from Knife Country USA, and everything is very well done, all the transitions are excellent, tiny amount of blade rub on the sheepsfoot and spey and not enough to bother me and I'm very picky about that, none on the main clip point, I did have to put about 20 swipes on each blade on the whetstone, its labeled as CS (Case states 1095) the amber jigged bone is superb, the mirror polish is great, clean tangs, the back springs passed the visual test with no spaces visible but not the light test, and its very minor on one side, My hats off the the fine people at Knife Country USA, I don't know if they hand picked that knife, but its a keeper and the medium job sheath was superb as well and fits the jumbo stockman perfectly.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 Case is good but you should definitely pick up a Rough Ryder.
Nice video. I agree Case knives are hit or miss. From my perspective, most pass my value vs. quality standard and I don’t send many back. I do tune up all the blades when they come in. (Strop and or fine stone). You should try the Copperhead last year’s special knife of the year,, but you can still get them. I have several GEC’s but I have given up on them because they are so limited. I don’t have the patience to hunt around and try to get one. I gave you a 👍, but I probably shouldn’t because I’m still pissed that you got rid of the Z900rs. 😃
I want to like them, and a good is nice, but the steel is barely up to victorinox quality…. The Rough Rider Reserve at least uses D2.
I agree that case is largely relying on yesteryear and collectors to stay in business.
I wish there was a better stockman and trapper in that price range….
Very interesting video - thank you.
I don't know much about slip joints. Enjoyed the video.
Thanks man... While I lean towards the one handed opening and locking style knives, I sorta have a soft spot for traditional knives...
I have maybe 25 case knives, I've only sent one back, had no snap at all on the clip blade. the sharpening at case is more of a suggestion. I sharpen every one I get. Good luck, don't give up on them.
I think that for me, there isn't a single one that can stand up to the quality, materials and fit and finish of the Chinese Rough Ryder Reserves... That they also cost more than the RRR, is what sours me... I do have some decent ones, but they are very hit or miss... If you get a good one, they are solid... but they are just as likely to be crap.
I only buy knives that I can handle and look at so I never end up with crap. Cuts down on buying cool stuff but I actually use my knives and an not a collector which has brought the price up.
Yeah, some knives I will buy unseen, if I trust the brand. Case is NOT one of those brands. I tend to want to go through the inventory and find the nice one...
And when Case does it right, I like them. I have a few Case knives that are well put together... Sadly, they are the exception these days...
I think grit and dust get in a new slip joint at the factory in the final polishing process.
I'd say half of the case knives I bought were garbage quality. Either they were too gritty with the opening action, or the spring tension was too weak, making the snappy feel almost non existent. I'm just down to a sodbuster jr and a large trapper, and everything on those are perfect.
Yeah, same here... you really have to sift through the pile to get a good one, and that's a shame that the brand has fallen like that...
My amber bone medium stockman had the same issues yours has
Yeah, its unfortunate... We have people constantly yelling about buying American, but in so many cases, being made in America doesn't mean what it used to...
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Nice Case!
Very good review. I’m not much of a stockman guy, but I really dig the satin finish and the Micarta. I love my Case knives. I’ve gotten pretty good examples. Rough Ryder with that R on the bolsters looks super cheap. Big turn off for me.
Yeah, that is my one gripe with that one. Otherwise its fantastic for the money...
Just buy the older models.
Most old school knives are hit and miss. The stockman is the worst, when the blades rub and opening your spay blade is a nail breaker.
Yeah, that was what I experienced with the Stockmans from Case...
I've had about a half dozen Case knives and had issues with every one so far, just ordered their s35vn trapper, really hoping I get a good one this time👍
A Trapper in S35VN? Hmmm... That sounds tasty. Report back on how it turns out? If they step up their game on that one, I might pick one up. I wonder if they are coming out with a premium line to try and keep pace with GEC? Would take more than better materials though... the fit and finish would need to improve as well.
Curious how yours turns out.
@Dave's Man Cave yeah just seen it at DLTtrading for $94, it's the only Case I've ever seen like it with through slots in the blade for nail nicks. Can't wait to test it out🤜💥🤛
Thanks for the video.
I'm here in the UK and am enjoying the more classic slip joints, because that is really all we are allowed in the UK.
Non locking and 3" or less in length.
I'm thinking of a canoe as I have the Buck stockman and hate the exposed sharp corners (of the tang) when it is closed.
I'm wondering about the black sycamore as for some reason I don't think I like bone.
UK price £80 (GBP) which is about $101 (US dollars) as of May 2022.
However, it's the quality question and can I spend that much if the quality has been off?
Thanks
Sucks that your country doesn't trust you with locking or larger knives. There are so many things that you miss out on... :-(
@@SquireSCA Yes it's not so good. We can have them if we are at home or in public with a good reason i.e. camping and fishing but not walking around. Also we are certainly not allowed anything for self defence. The minute you suggest that you have a pencil for self defence then you can get into big problems. I find that odd. We cannot defend ourselves but could use something to hand in the situation of life threatening harm. Which is the time you find out that you have nothing!
@@grayintheuk8021 it is kind of a weird situation where they tell you that things are too dangerous to allow people to carry simple tools like knives, but that it’s not dangerous enough to justify carrying something for self defense.
I automatically don’t trust a government that doesn’t trust the very people that elected them. They work for me. They do what I tell them, not the other way around.
They are representatives, not leaders: Big difference.
@@SquireSCA It's literally part of the religion of the people that occupy most governments now that we are their slaves here to serve them.
I know this is an old comment, but I wouldn't. Buy a Rough Ryder.
My experience with Case the last 3 years has led me to believe- They CAN make a good knife... but they won't.
I'd recently gone back to my childhood preference for my G'father's & Uncle's knives- meaning Case. I have some Benchmade and Microtech but I retired and larger blades are overkill now... plus my new breakfast and lunch crowds get nervy around autos. I get it. In my Case collection (exceeding 30, including a few I inherited) no 2 open and close the same. ALL made after the 80s have hotspots transitioning to bolster. NONE could even be opened without scratching the blade finish- on the knife itself. Bad pins... Lazy Closes vs Nail Breakers... on and on BEFORE some of them are getting close to the $100 mark. Most notably- I never bothered calling about warrenty stuff cuz an argument over how to pronounce abalone gets us nowhere.
Then someone handed me a Lionsteel BM1... and I couldn't decide between that or a BM2. So I bought them both. (To replace spey blades, med and large pens, and a newer upgraded Buck)
Now I'm liquidating my Case products for others: a JACK1 (to replace toothpicks & slimline trappers) & a BM13 (to replace half stockman and mini copperheads). Maybe a Warhorse or Shuffler (to replace barlows & trappers). I've held about 15 in the Traditional Series and the consistency of build, action, and out of the box sharpness is shocking! Shocking that the word hasn't gotten out about this Italian company. And shocking that Case isn't feeling the heat!
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Its another case of a company that has let quality control go to hell, and they survive only because of their "history"... Their quality is so hit or miss these days... The Chinese companies are crushing their quality, at half the price, and sooner or later, Case is gonna fail. If not for the fact that they cater to the "collectors"... which in most cases means "hoarders"... They would have had to close their doors years ago...
Anybody had back springs raising up while applying pressure cutting into something
A big turn off for me. The last 3 case knives I’ve bought had that problem. I want to like
Case because I am a knife nut and case makes a handsome knife ,but it has to be user
Friendly. Never seen that problem on any other knife.maybe I’ll give them one more try.
I have not noticed that, but I will check them and if they do it, report back...
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For the most part I haven't really got a bad case, but my papaw had on that was horrible
I got two that were good, and one that was junk. But to be honest, even the "good" ones, aren't any better than the Rough Ryders... And they aren't even in the ballpark of the Boker or GEC....
I don't buy a lot of new ones, but the old ones from the 70s are outstanding quality
@@isaacupchurch9320 that applies to a lot of American companies, unfortunately…
@@SquireSCA true
No!
Haha. The annoying part is they CAN make a good knife. I have a few. The problem is that their quality control is over the place... So long as you can inspect it before you buy it and pick a good one, they are fine.
I have reviewed a couple since this video... And they are excellent. But, I had to open several boxes to get that "good one"...
I typically don't have the issue with Rough Ryder Reserve...
@@SquireSCA I've never thought of getting a RR reserve. I also have some beautiful case knives. I wish they would give us decent prices.
@@JustineWiniker Case knives are decently priced, IMHO. But go and check out a Rough Rider Reserve. I think you will be impressed. Make sure its one of the Reserve models.
@@JustineWiniker Well, when you get a good Case knife, the price I think is fair. $65-$80 for one that comes properly made, in this day and age is good value. My gripe with Case has never been the price. They are fairly cheap, for US made knives.
My gripe has been that their quality control is very hit or miss at that price point...
@@SquireSCA I use the two rule! If I lose it and have to buy another, it's obscene!
I don't think you know how much some of them cost back in the day! $10 for a full size delrin Sodbuster!!
Case is over priced for what you get.
I mean, it's a US product and they have a decent warranty... My Case Trapper, is excellent... It's just very hit or miss. I would say that they are worth considering if you have access to inspect them before buying, to make sure you get a good one...
@@SquireSCA Unless they increase the quality enough for it to be worth the extra 40 dollars for a Case, Rough Ryder is better.
The short answer is no, they absolutely cannot redeem themselves. The "Tru-Sharp" is an absolute joke. Unless you are framing your knife for a musical movie & don't want your knife to be sharp.
LOL. Yeah, I tuned up the edge and its sharp now, but time will tell how often I need to touch it up...
I’ve sharpened countless Case knives with the Tru-Sharp steel, having a sharpening business for years. That steel is absolutely not my favorite. I own 6 Case knives myself and have owned many others in the past. I prefer the CV steel and the only stainless one I have now is the single blade Copperhead (because it’s beautiful and can’t find it in CV.) That being said, I’ve never had any trouble getting the true sharp stainless steel sharp. I’ve had them whittling hair. It’s not S30V or 20CV but it’ll absolutely get sharp. I carried a Case Trapper for about 6 years straight with that steel. Everyone that knew me knew my knife to be scary sharp at all times. I’m not just saying that because I sharpen knives well. My copperhead is plenty sharp after a stropping right out of the box.
My issue is that they could use a better steel that "stays sharper longer". It's really not a user steel. I love some of Case Knives. Probably one of my first knives ever. But they are more of a "show knife" than a "user knife". If that makes any sense.
Please shut up about the likes and get on with it, god
Is how you grow a channel, dude. Or do you view content creators as obligated to entertain and inform you entirely on their dime, and invest their time, without the intent for some form of personal gain?
stop talking.
Why? You can always hit mute if you just want to look at knives but not hear anything. Or maybe you can write a script for me, and I can use the words that you want to hear or approve of? Open to ideas... ;-)
I thought this was a valuable video but im a bit biased as I was deliberately looking for content on Case quality control.