As others have pointed out, this test was done during the summer construction holiday when a lot of businesses give their staff vacation on top of the construction industry workers. Also, schools are on summer vacation. Try this again in mid-September. Even better -- wait for the first snowstorm and try then. More importantly, there are two factors that are not included in this test: Cost and Stress-level.
from my experience it took cote vertu to brossard 50 minutes in car it is possible, but it depend of time and if governement doesnt try to shut down highway
So excited for the way our slow abandonment of cars is making a better future! Even with the few issues we've seen the rem is faster, safer, and more comfortable than driving! big slay!!!
The rest of the country meaning english provinces are at least 10 years behind Quebec for green energy , transportation, , sustainability, Montreal ranked # 1 in the world . Montreal is unique and cannot be compared to any other city in North america . Toronto has a USA car culture and people are living around concrete buildings and in ghettos ... Montreal is like New York and europe for culture , arts , architecture and a city alive
@@jeanbolduc5818 Meh, visiting from Vancouver I wasn't so impressed. It is pretty great; the subway, the mid-rise apartments everywhere, smaller streets etc.. and in that sense it's unique and appealing, but I wouldn't say that it's necessarily more compelling. It's a neat city that I'd like to visit again, but despite Vancouver's somewhat homogeneous aesthetic, extreme cost, generally larger roads, and bimodal housing distribution, the transit system as a whole is more usable and imo has less of a car culture than Montreal, but that's just a brief impression. The food is hyped pretty hard in Montreal, and the place is kind of assumed to have more "culture" whatever that means, but it took a surprisingly long amount of time to find anything that wasn't likely to just be average while walking around. Many of the same chains as any other city, and fairly predictable touristy areas. It was quite pretty in late Dec though and I'd be happy to return to explore what I'm sure is a hell of a lot that I wasn't able to see. If I knew French, I'd probably pick it over Toronto, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Calgary. Vancouver could really take a few pages out of Montreal's book in terms of embracing public art, but Montreal could take a lesson from SkyTrain and figure out a better payment system
Not only is it faster, you get to do something with the time - you can read, text, have a snack, and do literally anything else other than stare over a steering wheel.
@@shauncameron8390 It is wild we just accept the idea that we need to personally do all the work to get us from A to B. The amount of time and energy we spend focusing on steering and accelerating a car is incredible ... when actually, we can just have a bus driver, train driver, or autonomous train to it for us. We don't need to accept that
Another thing to consider, when i was commuting by train (in Dublin, Ireland 30 years ago). A collegue and I set out at about the same time to work, we lived near each other. He maintained that his (slightly longer) journey was a few minutes faster than my train ride. And when we go to the office he would read his morning news paper. But i had read the paper on the train, so my journey (though longer) was mor eefficient...
Taking the REM doesn’t make you pay 30000 every 5 years. REM doesn’t make you find parking. REM doesn’t make you pay for parking. REM doesn’t make you get car insurance.
yall should have tested my bestie, the bus 90, to compare when yall had the chance. it used to take me 35mins max during rush hour on school days and legit 15mins during non-peak hours. it never let me down 😢 i miss the fast commute so much
Don't forget getting somewhere that isn't the REM station. Try going west-east or east-west. You'll almost definitely need a connection bus, you're waiting outside and depending on which station the wait can be long and outside. Don't forget the walking in between. If you are 2 minutes late in the morning you miss your bus and might take 10-20 minutes more. Or if it comes 20 seconds earlier than scheduled you might be late and it's not your fault. Ive been 50 minutes late to work because my first bus was 5 minutes late because of traffic causing me to miss my connection 2nd bus. This doesn't happen with the REM but you're stuck taking the bus to and from it
You should also compare it to somebody going in other parts of Montreal and having to transfer to other metro / bus lines and the walks between them. And also, it's not everybody who lives near to the REM station. That's what happens often: the metro or bus can be fast during rush hours, but if you have 2 transfers in your route, that's gonna be a very long trip. And because the REM can't be directly connected to the metro, it adds even more transfer problems. Another huge problem is the fact there are no really good prices of tickets for people owing cars. I remember having a job where I could use the metro to get, but because I had a car, it made no sense to pay for both car fuel and a metro pass. But if I could buy a bunch of tickets for a decent price, it would make me take the metro more often.
Station to station, it will be faster. Home to exact work location, not so sure as you'll probably end up using 2 or 3 different method of transport. This said, I'd still take the REM over any transport mode.
agreed. plus think about how much time you would loose if you got in a car crash, and how much time you gain by being able to do work on the bus or train
If I could contribute in the comments, it's this: Years before the construction of the REM, the only public transportation travel routes between the city/island of Montreal and the South Shore were some of the RTL buses, the STM's Yellow Line and The AMT (currently called EXO) commuter train lines: Mont Sainte-Hilaire and Candiac, except that both the Candiac and the Mont Sainte-Hilaire Train Lines operate on the weekdays only.
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So many things can differ, how long you wait for the bus, mal functions on the train, works on the streets, where in Montreal you want to end, from where in Brossard you want to start… etc
Another question that could be asked: How much faster and more comfortable is the transit with the REM compared to the express busses (South Shore) and the electric train (Deux-Montagnes) it replaces. - Maybe a video idea for when the next branch goes into service?
Going station to station is not a fair comparison. I don't think Gare Centrale is most people's final destination. For me, my work is 30 minutes from Gare Centrale by public transit, whereas the same distance gets done in 10 minutes by car.
While I get that this video is not directed to me as someone who lives on the island, I feel like this is just a very narrow question. What about cost, stress level, convenience once in the city.
Of course the REM is faster and better for the planet .. cbc should spend money on real cultural news Since a lot of Canadians do not know anything about Canada
the biggest problem of your demonstration: nobody is going to the gare central by car. next time try to go somewhere else in the city, like going to the mc gill university, or Olympic stade or the different hospitals. or more to the east or west. anywhere which is away from a 10 minutes walk from the gare centrale. in this case, the car wins, because the public transport in montreal is not designed to support the city but only the buildings around the gare centrale.
Not an accurate reflection of how people travel. A commuter will drive from their house, not from Brossard Station. From door to door, the car will always be faster to downtown, but that isnt what attracts riders to transit. What the South shore needs is a efficient and predictable bus network serving the REM, so people will have an option other than the car from their front door that is reliable and predictable. That is what people want.
sorry dude, but the true game over is metro+rem from cote vertu to brossard it took me less of one hour and i am confident it is same time or shorter from any metro station to brossard in car it is only possible without traffic jam and if they dont try to block higway with their damed construction
@@SonsOfSevenless In terms of capacity/hour, the REM beats any "light rail" system by a solid margin. It also shares more common caracteristics with metro systems than "light rail" ones. The system runs Alstom Metropolis trains which are from the same family as the MPM-10 from the Orange and Green lines. Light rails systems tend to use "lighter" vehicles such as Siemens LRV or Alstom Citadis or Flexity which look more like trams. Light rail systems also don't feature GO4 automation. The capacity of each vehicle doesn't really say much about what type of system it is. The Paris metro runs 3, 4 and 5 cars trains and the Montréal metro used to run 3 cars trains on the blue line. So if the deciding factor is vehicle capacity, the REM is still a metro.
@@binoutech in public transportation terms it's a "pre metro" which is a light rail train with metro characteristics. In modern north American terminology this would be called an LRT. Calling it a metro is a misnomer, Montreal has a metro, and it's not the REM. the maximum theoretical capacity/hour is actually lower on the REM than the Deux Montagnes commuter rail line it replaced, because the trains carry 600 passengers instead of 2000. The REM train has nothing to do with the MPM-10 Azur also, what "family"?
I don't understand people judging new public transports only on whether they are fast or not. First because the most important factor is the level of CO2 emission: if we do not cut down on emissions quickly, Humans will go extinct. Second, we spend more time in recreational screen watching each day than commuting. So how about cutting down a few minutes on that pleasure time to help the next generation having a future worth living.... Let's stop being so spoiled and selfish.
But the best way to ensure that people actually use it is to make it competitive with driving. Most people care about their own time more than the environment.
@@thatoneguy611 I agree that it is how some people think, and it is unfortunate. But it is a tall order to ask of new technology to do better right off the bat than stuff that has been around for 100 years. Can you imagine the REM competing with the old Ford T? It would win hands down. It will all come down to whether we will take seriously the responsibilities that come with technology, and love our kids enough. If we do not, then we might follow the way of the dinosaures. :)
Happy 🌎 Day! REM!! Public transport beats personal autos any day in an urban environment. This news piece never ventures into the cost of “owning” a car. 1. cost of vehicle (almost always borrowed = debt = interest paid on debt) 2. Insurance payments, yearly 3. Municipal taxes, often more than one, paid yearly 4. Maintenance of vehicle, sometimes daily 5. Fueling the vehicle, daily 6. Parking cost, paid multiple times each day (if you’re a renter you’re paying each month meaning each day. Then after just a few short years you have to do it all over again$$$ Cost of public transport: 1. A monthly pass 2. A weekly pass 3. A daily pass 4. A one way ticket No searching for parking. Lots less stress. Time for reading. Time for talking face to face with another human being. Time for a nap, or time to simply think.🌎
@@InnuyaIt's not legal to work those two weeks in the construction industry, unless it's emergency construction but then you need to pay all your employees twice their salaries.
So much elevated above ground open air light rail is a great fair weather solution. I really hope Montreal gets a lot of "fair weather" this winter. And every winter from now on
Nice video, but the REM to West-Island has been delayed from early 2023 to mid-2024 to late 2024 and now 2025! Really? Instead of making false promises why were we just not told it was 2025? The budget has mushroomed from 6.4 Billion to 8.0 B which means at least 10+ B. Of course in Quebec, nothing is ever on time or on budget. One more disaster before it even runs one kilometer, if it ever runs at all...
i tested i can tell you metro+rem is faster, in car you are often stuck in traffic jam so from green line or orange line to brossard you can go to brossard in less of one hour
Vancouver has Skytrain, and it takes about the same time as the cars as well. I think they do it on purpose because if the train is too fast, everyone will be using the train and it will be too busy.
Interesting conspiracy theory, but it makes no sense. The Skytrain already operates at great frequencies, it's not artificially limited to not be as good as a car.
@jonathandpg6115 lis sur ce lien la réponse et il faut cesser de toujours utiliser des termes anglais car ils ne sont pas aussi précis que le terme français fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_m%C3%A9tros_l%C3%A9gers_du_monde
I live in this area. No way your getting in town faster by public transportation especially with the new bridge. Not to mention, why didnt the test end when the car is parked?
Speed, duh. There is so much more hanging on the choice than time. So what if driving an expensive wasteful polluting SUV gets you there a few minutes sooner?
I hate your REM. You ruined life on Ile des sœurs. Now I need a car even to make groceries on Ile des sœur. When I am returning home from McGill metro at 5-6 pm There’s a huge line of people waiting to go back to Ile des sœur. Before it was every 10 minutes bus. Now it’s 30 minutes…. Same in the morning. I need to go to the down town or green line metro McGill. I don’t want to take bus, then REM, then go 10 minutes to get the green line. Before I just used 168 bus.
But you could easily catch a T-Bone. The likely hood of you being involved in a collision is FAR higher than anyone being mugged or shanked on Transit.
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As others have pointed out, this test was done during the summer construction holiday when a lot of businesses give their staff vacation on top of the construction industry workers. Also, schools are on summer vacation. Try this again in mid-September. Even better -- wait for the first snowstorm and try then. More importantly, there are two factors that are not included in this test: Cost and Stress-level.
and CO2
from my experience it took cote vertu to brossard 50 minutes
in car it is possible, but it depend of time and if governement doesnt try to shut down highway
End of the video
There's also the question of whether the availability of the REM reduces congestion and artificially improves the car time…!
@@stephenspackman5573 I would suspect yes, but only once phase 2 is made available to the public sometime in 2025.
So excited for the way our slow abandonment of cars is making a better future! Even with the few issues we've seen the rem is faster, safer, and more comfortable than driving! big slay!!!
fewer cars is the future of any big city,
Yo doppelganger
Montreal, doing urbanism right. Now if only the rest of the country would take note.
The rest of the country meaning english provinces are at least 10 years behind Quebec for green energy , transportation, , sustainability, Montreal ranked # 1 in the world . Montreal is unique and cannot be compared to any other city in North america . Toronto has a USA car culture and people are living around concrete buildings and in ghettos ... Montreal is like New York and europe for culture , arts , architecture and a city alive
@@jeanbolduc5818 Montreal wasn't amalgamated as rest of canadian cities
It was and the powerful municipalities rejected it.
@@jeanbolduc5818 Meh, visiting from Vancouver I wasn't so impressed. It is pretty great; the subway, the mid-rise apartments everywhere, smaller streets etc.. and in that sense it's unique and appealing, but I wouldn't say that it's necessarily more compelling. It's a neat city that I'd like to visit again, but despite Vancouver's somewhat homogeneous aesthetic, extreme cost, generally larger roads, and bimodal housing distribution, the transit system as a whole is more usable and imo has less of a car culture than Montreal, but that's just a brief impression. The food is hyped pretty hard in Montreal, and the place is kind of assumed to have more "culture" whatever that means, but it took a surprisingly long amount of time to find anything that wasn't likely to just be average while walking around. Many of the same chains as any other city, and fairly predictable touristy areas. It was quite pretty in late Dec though and I'd be happy to return to explore what I'm sure is a hell of a lot that I wasn't able to see. If I knew French, I'd probably pick it over Toronto, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Calgary. Vancouver could really take a few pages out of Montreal's book in terms of embracing public art, but Montreal could take a lesson from SkyTrain and figure out a better payment system
@@o67_ant
Thanks to the Anglo-majority on-island suburbs fighting for and winning their independence from the central city.
Not only is it faster, you get to do something with the time - you can read, text, have a snack, and do literally anything else other than stare over a steering wheel.
That's because driving requires you to pay attention at all times.
@@shauncameron8390 It is wild we just accept the idea that we need to personally do all the work to get us from A to B. The amount of time and energy we spend focusing on steering and accelerating a car is incredible ... when actually, we can just have a bus driver, train driver, or autonomous train to it for us. We don't need to accept that
the true test it is from cote vertu to brossard or montmonrency to brossard
for me it took 50 minutes
can a car laval to brossard is faster ?
underrated point
REM is running at slower speed and frequency. Despite that it was still faster.
And it will probably get faster with time as they fine tune the system.
The Montreal transit agency should use this video as a promo.
You should also take into consideration the cost of the Rem and the cost of gas and wear on your car. How many tons of co2 will this eliminate.
Don't forget insurance and property tax on your car
Another thing to consider, when i was commuting by train (in Dublin, Ireland 30 years ago). A collegue and I set out at about the same time to work, we lived near each other. He maintained that his (slightly longer) journey was a few minutes faster than my train ride. And when we go to the office he would read his morning news paper. But i had read the paper on the train, so my journey (though longer) was mor eefficient...
Taking the REM doesn’t make you pay 30000 every 5 years. REM doesn’t make you find parking. REM doesn’t make you pay for parking. REM doesn’t make you get car insurance.
Ram stayed the same speed. Regardless of is the road is open or busy. So tie or win.
yall should have tested my bestie, the bus 90, to compare when yall had the chance. it used to take me 35mins max during rush hour on school days and legit 15mins during non-peak hours. it never let me down 😢 i miss the fast commute so much
Don't forget getting somewhere that isn't the REM station. Try going west-east or east-west. You'll almost definitely need a connection bus, you're waiting outside and depending on which station the wait can be long and outside. Don't forget the walking in between. If you are 2 minutes late in the morning you miss your bus and might take 10-20 minutes more. Or if it comes 20 seconds earlier than scheduled you might be late and it's not your fault. Ive been 50 minutes late to work because my first bus was 5 minutes late because of traffic causing me to miss my connection 2nd bus. This doesn't happen with the REM but you're stuck taking the bus to and from it
You should also compare it to somebody going in other parts of Montreal and having to transfer to other metro / bus lines and the walks between them. And also, it's not everybody who lives near to the REM station. That's what happens often: the metro or bus can be fast during rush hours, but if you have 2 transfers in your route, that's gonna be a very long trip. And because the REM can't be directly connected to the metro, it adds even more transfer problems.
Another huge problem is the fact there are no really good prices of tickets for people owing cars. I remember having a job where I could use the metro to get, but because I had a car, it made no sense to pay for both car fuel and a metro pass. But if I could buy a bunch of tickets for a decent price, it would make me take the metro more often.
Station to station, it will be faster. Home to exact work location, not so sure as you'll probably end up using 2 or 3 different method of transport. This said, I'd still take the REM over any transport mode.
agreed. plus think about how much time you would loose if you got in a car crash, and how much time you gain by being able to do work on the bus or train
If I could contribute in the comments, it's this: Years before the construction of the REM, the only public transportation travel routes between the city/island of Montreal and the South Shore were some of the RTL buses, the STM's Yellow Line and The AMT (currently called EXO) commuter train lines: Mont Sainte-Hilaire and Candiac, except that both the Candiac and the Mont Sainte-Hilaire Train Lines operate on the weekdays only.
So many things can differ, how long you wait for the bus, mal functions on the train, works on the streets, where in Montreal you want to end, from where in Brossard you want to start… etc
Another question that could be asked: How much faster and more comfortable is the transit with the REM compared to the express busses (South Shore) and the electric train (Deux-Montagnes) it replaces. - Maybe a video idea for when the next branch goes into service?
You used the construction vacation to do your test. Do it again in september.
Going station to station is not a fair comparison. I don't think Gare Centrale is most people's final destination. For me, my work is 30 minutes from Gare Centrale by public transit, whereas the same distance gets done in 10 minutes by car.
1:34 Why didn't Kwabena use Carte Opus?
Because he doesn't actually use public transportation himself.
I'm surprised cash is still in use.
it is only useful if you use often
if it is only once it is cheaper to buy ticket from machine
Is Ottawa's LRT train really faster than... walking? NO
While I get that this video is not directed to me as someone who lives on the island, I feel like this is just a very narrow question. What about cost, stress level, convenience once in the city.
Of course the REM is faster and better for the planet .. cbc should spend money on real cultural news Since a lot of Canadians do not know anything about Canada
Do it second week of September and get back to us.
It must be nice living in Montreal
the biggest problem of your demonstration:
nobody is going to the gare central by car.
next time try to go somewhere else in the city, like going to the mc gill university, or Olympic stade or the different hospitals.
or more to the east or west.
anywhere which is away from a 10 minutes walk from the gare centrale. in this case, the car wins, because the public transport in montreal is not designed to support the city but only the buildings around the gare centrale.
Not an accurate reflection of how people travel.
A commuter will drive from their house, not from Brossard Station.
From door to door, the car will always be faster to downtown, but that isnt what attracts riders to transit.
What the South shore needs is a efficient and predictable bus network serving the REM, so people will have an option other than the car from their front door that is reliable and predictable. That is what people want.
He took the bus to the station though. It took him 6 minutes
sorry dude, but the true game over is metro+rem
from cote vertu to brossard it took me less of one hour and i am confident it is same time or shorter from any metro station to brossard
in car it is only possible without traffic jam and if they dont try to block higway with their damed construction
"light-rail" err, idk, that seems like you spelt "metro" wrong 🤣
Azur MPM-10 metro: 1600 passengers
REM: 600
REM is light rail, like Calgary or Ottawa.
@@SonsOfSevenless Rem is designed to have 90s headways unlike most light rail systems, it also has full go4 automation and platform screen doors.
@@binoutech light rail vs heavy rail is about capacity. It's not about headways or automation or platform screen door s
@@SonsOfSevenless In terms of capacity/hour, the REM beats any "light rail" system by a solid margin. It also shares more common caracteristics with metro systems than "light rail" ones. The system runs Alstom Metropolis trains which are from the same family as the MPM-10 from the Orange and Green lines. Light rails systems tend to use "lighter" vehicles such as Siemens LRV or Alstom Citadis or Flexity which look more like trams. Light rail systems also don't feature GO4 automation.
The capacity of each vehicle doesn't really say much about what type of system it is. The Paris metro runs 3, 4 and 5 cars trains and the Montréal metro used to run 3 cars trains on the blue line. So if the deciding factor is vehicle capacity, the REM is still a metro.
@@binoutech in public transportation terms it's a "pre metro" which is a light rail train with metro characteristics. In modern north American terminology this would be called an LRT. Calling it a metro is a misnomer, Montreal has a metro, and it's not the REM. the maximum theoretical capacity/hour is actually lower on the REM than the Deux Montagnes commuter rail line it replaced, because the trains carry 600 passengers instead of 2000. The REM train has nothing to do with the MPM-10 Azur also, what "family"?
I don't understand people judging new public transports only on whether they are fast or not. First because the most important factor is the level of CO2 emission: if we do not cut down on emissions quickly, Humans will go extinct. Second, we spend more time in recreational screen watching each day than commuting. So how about cutting down a few minutes on that pleasure time to help the next generation having a future worth living.... Let's stop being so spoiled and selfish.
Buses run on water or something?
@@DeeLove4ever Does the concept of emission per person say something to you or does that surpass your capacity?
@@DeeLove4ever technically yes with electric bus
But the best way to ensure that people actually use it is to make it competitive with driving. Most people care about their own time more than the environment.
@@thatoneguy611 I agree that it is how some people think, and it is unfortunate. But it is a tall order to ask of new technology to do better right off the bat than stuff that has been around for 100 years. Can you imagine the REM competing with the old Ford T? It would win hands down. It will all come down to whether we will take seriously the responsibilities that come with technology, and love our kids enough. If we do not, then we might follow the way of the dinosaures. :)
Brilliant👏
Happy 🌎 Day! REM!!
Public transport beats personal autos any day in an urban environment. This news piece never ventures into the cost of “owning” a car. 1. cost of vehicle (almost always borrowed = debt = interest paid on debt) 2. Insurance payments, yearly 3. Municipal taxes, often more than one, paid yearly 4. Maintenance of vehicle, sometimes daily 5. Fueling the vehicle, daily 6. Parking cost, paid multiple times each day (if you’re a renter you’re paying each month meaning each day.
Then after just a few short years you have to do it all over again$$$
Cost of public transport: 1. A monthly pass 2. A weekly pass 3. A daily pass 4. A one way ticket
No searching for parking. Lots less stress. Time for reading. Time for talking face to face with another human being. Time for a nap, or time to simply think.🌎
This would have been better top gear style.
You can go by bike on Champlain so Hammond could have pedaled to Montreal
its vacation time. dont forget.
Hey thats my bus stop 🥲
Is "the construction holiday" a real thing?
I've been trying to get hold of a plumber and all are on construction holidays.
Yep. Two weeks here in Quebec where most construction workers and contractor work shuts down.
@@jasonlabrecque8852 is it a union/"union" thing? I reckon a contractor could make a killing if they worked those two weeks if everyone else is off
@@InnuyaIt's not legal to work those two weeks in the construction industry, unless it's emergency construction but then you need to pay all your employees twice their salaries.
Why isnt there a city which is just all forest and grassland with the odd skyscraper dotted around and a monorail connecting them
Literally Vancouver???
So much elevated above ground open air light rail is a great fair weather solution. I really hope Montreal gets a lot of "fair weather" this winter. And every winter from now on
The trains ran last winter and built for ice, snow, cold , wind and the bridge always moving
Nice video, but the REM to West-Island has been delayed from early 2023 to mid-2024 to late 2024 and now 2025! Really? Instead of making false promises why were we just not told it was 2025? The budget has mushroomed from 6.4 Billion to 8.0 B which means at least 10+ B. Of course in Quebec, nothing is ever on time or on budget. One more disaster before it even runs one kilometer, if it ever runs at all...
No
If they built it right it should always be faster.
They were against open mid day roads. Beats case for the car. Rem is still running at low frequency and slow speeds. It's only up from here
i tested i can tell you metro+rem is faster, in car you are often stuck in traffic jam
so from green line or orange line to brossard you can go to brossard in less of one hour
Vancouver has Skytrain, and it takes about the same time as the cars as well. I think they do it on purpose because if the train is too fast, everyone will be using the train and it will be too busy.
Usually faster and cheaper on the train. Haven't considered buying another car in a long time.
Interesting conspiracy theory, but it makes no sense. The Skytrain already operates at great frequencies, it's not artificially limited to not be as good as a car.
No offense but the REM is not a good thing it is not reliable it keeps having problems car's dont buses are sometimes late
It is NOT a light rail, nobody calls it LRT. It is a Métro like Toronto
its a light rail actually
@jonathandpg6115 lis sur ce lien la réponse et il faut cesser de toujours utiliser des termes anglais car ils ne sont pas aussi précis que le terme français
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_m%C3%A9tros_l%C3%A9gers_du_monde
I live in this area. No way your getting in town faster by public transportation especially with the new bridge. Not to mention, why didnt the test end when the car is parked?
Speed, duh. There is so much more hanging on the choice than time. So what if driving an expensive wasteful polluting SUV gets you there a few minutes sooner?
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Nooooo.
The REM is no more faster than the Metro on an average weekend.
lol
IT ISNT LIGJT RAIL DAMMMIT
it is though
this is the most useless comparaison
Does our tax really pay for that kind of stuff ? 😂😂😂
Yes, because that's the future of cities. Not cars.
only if its during traffic otherwise just drive thats faster
I hate your REM. You ruined life on Ile des sœurs. Now I need a car even to make groceries on Ile des sœur.
When I am returning home from McGill metro at 5-6 pm There’s a huge line of people waiting to go back to Ile des sœur. Before it was every 10 minutes bus. Now it’s 30 minutes….
Same in the morning. I need to go to the down town or green line metro McGill. I don’t want to take bus, then REM, then go 10 minutes to get the green line. Before I just used 168 bus.
Good thing there will be a rem station right at McGill then, that will be a pretty fast commute for you once it's fully opened
@@booketoiles1600 in 2 years ?!!! Return my bus schedule until you will be open.
propaganda news metwork pushing what they push best
Can't catch covid in my car - or a knife.
Bro too scared Fr
But you could easily catch a T-Bone. The likely hood of you being involved in a collision is FAR higher than anyone being mugged or shanked on Transit.
Right, because driving is the safest activity we humans partake in.