Celeste has a solid healing power, perhaps not the best, but a very solid one. What makes her shine is that she can hurt a LOT the healing of other teams and prevent some debuffs, not to mention that she heals very quick, which helps to make your heroes in dire problem to finally survive.
I still think it's hard to argue against the massive dmg celeste can do while also being a healer. I mean, she counters Yasmine without being a counter to Yasmine simply because she will 1 shot the yas.
Running Twins + Trinity. Sebastian as 'swappable' and Krista able to tank; there are times I need Sebastian + other support (I.E. Morrigan against Rufus). I maxxed Celeste's group artifact a long time ago and it made a HUGE difference.
Thanks Charlie. I have one request. You spoke a lot about Celeste and Morrigan a lot, but you also made statements like Thea is the best with certain teams, Martha with certain teams. I would appreciate it if you would expand on those statements. When is Martha best? When is Thea best? Markus, maya?
I still prefer Celeste for overall use and being in my main team but I am very happy to see that Morrigan is much more useful than I thought. Sweet tip Charlie! I was already working on her to deal with those Rufus in adventure 9's and above but now I have even more reasons to do so and redouble my efforts on Corvus as they are best used together.
As a Rufus counter she is already pretty much a necessary hero to level (Morrigan). Try to take out a Rufus with protection against physical in an adventure without Morrigan.. So just like Sebastian, Isaac, Helios Morrigan is a kind of must have support, not to have maxed out but to have at 50% of the rest of the team. The question is: is it worth it to build an undead team. Corvus and Phobos can be annoying sometimes but they don't seem strong enough (yet).
As a healer, I find Morrigan is pretty limited because she only heals the undead - there are only three undead heroes, and that includes Morrigan. She is still a useful hero, it's just that you need very specific situations to call her the best healer.
Morrigan is best as a counter to Astaroth and Rufus. To a lesser degree against single target damage dealers like Yasmine if she is able to build the army of those little sh!tes of hers which quickly overwhelm Yasmine.
I have always enjoyed Celeste. She is one of my top heroes in both web and mobile. In my book, she is queen of healing. Morrigan is an absolute force, but she cannot take away the throne so easily. Both of these heroes have their own extraordinary uses. Thank you for this informative video.
How much different is Morrigan on Mobile vs Facebook? My Top 10 Players that I utilize in grand arena are: Corvus, Morrigan, Keira, Seb, Jet, K'arkh, Faceless, Astaroth, and Martha. Sometimes I use Corvus, K'arkh, Morrigan, Faceless, and Martha mainly on defense. Double healer where Morrigan heals 4 of the 5.
For most of the cases, I will prefer Celeste more because her healing is one target big amount which is really important for high damage dealer with weak defense properties, like Karhk, Dante... Plus, Celeste is half healer and half damage dealer, and her healing block ability is the best one among similar candidates because she blocks all healing to allies and enemies themselves.
as undead team user I Love Morrigan..and they just need to give Keira the undead tag too ,so I don't have to bring Martha with her everyTime 😅 let Morrigan do HER work
Corvus Celeste Dante Morrigan Sebastian try that 😉 If there is no Arachne and you are fighting Magic Teams, change Morrigan with Isaac. I like Morrigan and have her almost maxed but Celeste in this lineup is a Monster against a lot of Teams. Tbh my Dante is maxed and Cain too, it makes my Arena fights easy
I notice, the description for Morrigan's 4th skill is not right. Her skill is always active. If for example Morrigan is at level 80, and she fights a level 130 Rufus. When Rufus dies, he will not resurrect, and Morrigan summons a skeleton instead. Can anyone confirm this?
Agreed that Morrigan got more usefulness than before post the rise of Iris and Rufus. But I don't think she's fair to be called a healer outside of the undead team, mostly she's just a support with her artifact weapon for the physical attacking teams. But Celest is 100% a healer no matter which team you put her at, but whether or not she's the best really depends on the rest of line.
That is not a better healer but better fitter in certain teams. She heals her teammates just after they re dead and returned to sceletons, except 2, what means she can heal not only a very limited group of allies, yet it is not a full team even
Morrigan is still very niche. She is only good in an undead team and even then her heals only affect like half the team. She is an ok counter to rufus but is she worth leveling just for that? I think not. Still too niche in a world of universally op heroes like Isaac, sebastian that counter several heroes at the same time.
Since underconning my Celeste I've found she never dies and as a result has been a much more effective healer, since you know, dead healers can't heal. If you are going to run her with other healer and mages make sure she doesn't have the highest intel.
when you say Morrigan better healer than Celeste, do they both have similar levels of glyphs/skins/artifacts? as healing depends on the magic attack level
bruh he pets morrigan can have are axel and oliver which are healer pets and morrigan can already heal herself it would have been better if her pets were albus and mara because albus boosts pure damage and mara boosts like stun,control,blinding,silence,slow,charm and the chance of activation is like 200% which is really usefull
But ANY other healer you can put into any lineup. She is just way to limited unless the make more characters undead like Keira and Dorian. Which IMO they should be because they are undead I mean ghost and vampire... Seriously??????
You're 2 years late on her blue skill. No wonder you didn't think she was nerfed on mobile, which you mentioned in your live stream during Morrigan's Brawl event.
She was not nerfed in mobile. She was made stronger. Teams which I could defeat before, I can no longer defeat, even when their overall battle power is significantly lower than mine (a difference of 50K or more).
Not sure of the value of this video - you don't choose celeste as just a healer. If you want just a healer it is Martha. Morrigan is just not overly useful for most players.
@@2drealms196 Don't pronounce your judgments on basis of Arena top 50. While Arena scores are important, they indicate only countering difficulties. However, it is Grand Arena that shows player preferences without any bias: for this reason you might see non-top Arena heroes like Luther, Chabba and, in this current case, Thea represented more often.
@@2drealms196 She is not good for defense. She is good for offense teams that need a pinch healer. For example, with Jhu, Seb, Galahad, Nebula, she shines and heals well. Another combo I got is QingMao, Galahad, Seb, and Artemis. Or Galahad, Seb, Yasmine, QingMao (for melee teams with high armor)/Nebula (for mage teams), Thea These combos are weird, but they work well in offense teams. These combo are mostly critical hit teams, and they are damage oriented, meaning that they depend on critical hits to kill the other teams before the team can defend. Try them in the maximum hero levels and see for yourselves if they are good at attacking.
I thought the same and she is great for lower levels, but the longer you play and the higher level you get more people get these heroes which knock over her teapot: 1/2 the mages, Galahad, Keira, Nebula, Aurora, Arachne, Luther, Daredevil, and Cleaver of course will bring her to the front line which will cause basically any attack from frontline heroes to knock it over.
@@HeroWarsCentral Then the only other alternative is to help them get into a gold league by leveling Martha for the Osh meta. But that is a long play. Celeste is by far the best early access healer and remains a great healer into the far end game. I strongly disagree - you absolutely should be encouraging new players to enhance Celeste as she will help them throughout all of the game. I will watch how often you reach for Celeste now that you are in a gold league...
Celeste has a solid healing power, perhaps not the best, but a very solid one. What makes her shine is that she can hurt a LOT the healing of other teams and prevent some debuffs, not to mention that she heals very quick, which helps to make your heroes in dire problem to finally survive.
agree. and one more thing : celeste artifact is very quick to active during battle
Morrigan is very limited to the undead team whereas Celeste can be used in almost any team
Wrong. I use a weak Morrigan to defeat a strong Rufus.
Morrigan is effective against Dante.
I still think it's hard to argue against the massive dmg celeste can do while also being a healer. I mean, she counters Yasmine without being a counter to Yasmine simply because she will 1 shot the yas.
She is a counter to Yasmine mostly because she cancels Yasmine poison everytime she ults !
Keira, If I recall correctly, was Undead, but that marker seems to have gone!
Morrigan is my favorite hero in the game! She's in my main lineup and her little skeletons have pulled through so so many times to get a win!
I might consider her if they make Keira an undead but until then, I'll level her just as a support, not a permanent member of my team.
She's way of Eternity on Mobile.
If all of Charlie's intelligence was going to level Helios...Helios would be the most underleveled hero ever ;-)
I have been working on Morrigan lately. Thanks for the added information.
I've recently started leveling her more seriously and I really like Celeste now.
I generally use Celeste for her other skills, the healing is just a bonus she brings with her.
Running Twins + Trinity. Sebastian as 'swappable' and Krista able to tank; there are times I need Sebastian + other support (I.E. Morrigan against Rufus).
I maxxed Celeste's group artifact a long time ago and it made a HUGE difference.
Thanks Charlie. I have one request. You spoke a lot about Celeste and Morrigan a lot, but you also made statements like Thea is the best with certain teams, Martha with certain teams. I would appreciate it if you would expand on those statements. When is Martha best? When is Thea best? Markus, maya?
I still prefer Celeste for overall use and being in my main team but I am very happy to see that Morrigan is much more useful than I thought. Sweet tip Charlie!
I was already working on her to deal with those Rufus in adventure 9's and above but now I have even more reasons to do so and redouble my efforts on Corvus as they are best used together.
I been using Morrigan since I got her early game. Usually she was the last one alive so I knew she was a great hero.
Damn this subscribe thing you put noways scared the shit out of me I had max volume. Was unable to think for like 5 seconds :(((
Thanks for always keeping it real for us Charlie!
Thanks Charlie, building up morrigan to use as an alternative to celeste and martha
Thanks for sharing! I'm trying to build an undead team too!
It is my experience that Martha is the best overall character in the healing/utility/ tanky categories.
As a Rufus counter she is already pretty much a necessary hero to level (Morrigan). Try to take out a Rufus with protection against physical in an adventure without Morrigan.. So just like Sebastian, Isaac, Helios Morrigan is a kind of must have support, not to have maxed out but to have at 50% of the rest of the team. The question is: is it worth it to build an undead team. Corvus and Phobos can be annoying sometimes but they don't seem strong enough (yet).
Morrigan is definitely on-deck for me to level up. I haven't yet b/c of the resources it will take to level both her and Corvus.
Morrigan can become such a pain if pet Oliver is assigned..
Great infos - will consider those in my leveling decisions!
As a healer, I find Morrigan is pretty limited because she only heals the undead - there are only three undead heroes, and that includes Morrigan. She is still a useful hero, it's just that you need very specific situations to call her the best healer.
Morrigan is best as a counter to Astaroth and Rufus. To a lesser degree against single target damage dealers like Yasmine if she is able to build the army of those little sh!tes of hers which quickly overwhelm Yasmine.
Morrigan is my favourite hero, but I always use her together with another healer (Celeste, Dorian or Thea).
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I have always enjoyed Celeste. She is one of my top heroes in both web and mobile. In my book, she is queen of healing. Morrigan is an absolute force, but she cannot take away the throne so easily. Both of these heroes have their own extraordinary uses. Thank you for this informative video.
Interesting, Morrigan is on my Undead team, but I worried about her performance so also have Dorian. Perhaps I should change things around.
Another new reason to level up Morrigan this day.
So past the point of no return on Celest. I'll stay all in.
Hey Charlie, great video as always!
"Celeste is NOT the Best Healer"* *in every team Nice video!
i wish they add more undead heroes like karkh for eg as the way of eternity
How much different is Morrigan on Mobile vs Facebook? My Top 10 Players that I utilize in grand arena are: Corvus, Morrigan, Keira, Seb, Jet, K'arkh, Faceless, Astaroth, and Martha. Sometimes I use Corvus, K'arkh, Morrigan, Faceless, and Martha mainly on defense. Double healer where Morrigan heals 4 of the 5.
if Kiera or Dorian were undead, Morrigan would've been broken - day 34 of nothing
Thanks for the videos Charlie
Morrigan is sitting duck in the era where iris is so common in top teams.
For most of the cases, I will prefer Celeste more because her healing is one target big amount which is really important for high damage dealer with weak defense properties, like Karhk, Dante... Plus, Celeste is half healer and half damage dealer, and her healing block ability is the best one among similar candidates because she blocks all healing to allies and enemies themselves.
I see how it is now, Facebook gets vanilla Morrigan with her op healing, while mobile gets reworked . . . .
as undead team user I Love Morrigan..and they just need to give Keira the undead tag too ,so I don't have to bring Martha with her everyTime 😅 let Morrigan do HER work
Keira is an Undead on Mobile though
Wish Morrigan's heals started a little sooner than 20% health.
if i was starting today and had access to them i would use the undead team.. that said i wish synergy wasnt a thing and hero power meant something
Corvus Celeste Dante Morrigan Sebastian try that 😉
If there is no Arachne and you are fighting Magic Teams, change Morrigan with Isaac.
I like Morrigan and have her almost maxed but Celeste in this lineup is a Monster against a lot of Teams.
Tbh my Dante is maxed and Cain too, it makes my Arena fights easy
Celeste is more universally useful for me but I often use Morrigan when I want to distract enemy teams with Dante or Arachne.
Do you know what is the beast teammate for Celeste ?
Celeste is always my go to Healer with her other abilities
She is my favorite hero in all of Hero Wars. So I’m right there with you.
I don't even have her yet
I notice, the description for Morrigan's 4th skill is not right. Her skill is always active.
If for example Morrigan is at level 80, and she fights a level 130 Rufus. When Rufus dies, he will not resurrect, and Morrigan summons a skeleton instead.
Can anyone confirm this?
Incorrect.
Agreed that Morrigan got more usefulness than before post the rise of Iris and Rufus. But I don't think she's fair to be called a healer outside of the undead team, mostly she's just a support with her artifact weapon for the physical attacking teams. But Celest is 100% a healer no matter which team you put her at, but whether or not she's the best really depends on the rest of line.
Morrigan is really nice to play with
I like her ability of preventing healing and decent magic attack
Celeste not part of my first line up, maybe one day
That is not a better healer but better fitter in certain teams. She heals her teammates just after they re dead and returned to sceletons, except 2, what means she can heal not only a very limited group of allies, yet it is not a full team even
Morrigan is still very niche. She is only good in an undead team and even then her heals only affect like half the team. She is an ok counter to rufus but is she worth leveling just for that? I think not. Still too niche in a world of universally op heroes like Isaac, sebastian that counter several heroes at the same time.
I use my morrigan a lot in the tower (yes, I yet to reach 130 lvl... :D)
corvus and morigan a good heroes you can put them on many teams to counter specific teams this new rufus meta corvus is superb vs him
thank you Charlie
Valid points about morrigan and celeste is def best used manually
Since underconning my Celeste I've found she never dies and as a result has been a much more effective healer, since you know, dead healers can't heal. If you are going to run her with other healer and mages make sure she doesn't have the highest intel.
Axel as pet helps on that, especially against Cornelius.
buddy, that's Morrigan that is your thumbnail / poster frame, not Celeste.
thank you charlie
This is a great video!
when you say Morrigan better healer than Celeste, do they both have similar levels of glyphs/skins/artifacts? as healing depends on the magic attack level
Is this for mobile or FB? Nevermind I see the pets
I've never used Celeste as a healer
bruh he pets morrigan can have are axel and oliver which are healer pets and morrigan can already heal herself it would have been better if her pets were albus and mara because albus boosts pure damage and mara boosts like stun,control,blinding,silence,slow,charm and the chance of activation is like 200% which is really usefull
I agree, just too many heroes need to level :)
Morrigan is growing on me too - with Corvus as main tank she's becoming one of my key supports.
But ANY other healer you can put into any lineup. She is just way to limited unless the make more characters undead like Keira and Dorian. Which IMO they should be because they are undead I mean ghost and vampire... Seriously??????
When in serious doubt, put Markus as a healer, and he will be the best. :)
Rufus Celeste Nebula Monkey Dorian I prefer celeste as a secondary healer that Im not totally relying on so I pair her with other healers
Thank you
Celeste and Morrigan are actually similar
Hey Charlie, I like my Celeste
Celeste over morrigan in non undead team
Who says "Morgan" rather than "Morrigan" ??
celeste and martha is the best healers but ofc some teams work better with something else
gracias por el video amigo
thx Charlie
We stan our Queen.
The way things are now , Celeste is the best healer overall , but as we know this game changes every six months or so ....
Celeste is more universally useful for me
She is good against Rufus. It's annoying he can't be killed be other damage than physical. Keira and Yasmine players like her.
Martha is the best healer hands down!
My Luther loves to break her teapot :)
I agree!
Of course she's not! Celeste is supposed to be a wizard, not a healer!
tactical bump
You're 2 years late on her blue skill. No wonder you didn't think she was nerfed on mobile, which you mentioned in your live stream during Morrigan's Brawl event.
She was not nerfed in mobile. She was made stronger. Teams which I could defeat before, I can no longer defeat, even when their overall battle power is significantly lower than mine (a difference of 50K or more).
@@jose4877 Her single heal was extremely important to the team. Corvus dies easier now.
Not sure of the value of this video - you don't choose celeste as just a healer. If you want just a healer it is Martha. Morrigan is just not overly useful for most players.
You just described the value of the video. The value is Celeste isn’t the best healer in all teams.
@@HeroWarsCentral But she is more valuable in more teams than Morrigan though.
I know I am going get a lot of flak for this.... here goes.... Thea is not a bad healer. She is good for me.
Is she really that good though? I rarely see anyone in the top 50 use her for Arena defense.
@@2drealms196 Don't pronounce your judgments on basis of Arena top 50. While Arena scores are important, they indicate only countering difficulties. However, it is Grand Arena that shows player preferences without any bias: for this reason you might see non-top Arena heroes like Luther, Chabba and, in this current case, Thea represented more often.
@@2drealms196 She is not good for defense. She is good for offense teams that need a pinch healer.
For example, with Jhu, Seb, Galahad, Nebula, she shines and heals well.
Another combo I got is QingMao, Galahad, Seb, and Artemis.
Or Galahad, Seb, Yasmine, QingMao (for melee teams with high armor)/Nebula (for mage teams), Thea
These combos are weird, but they work well in offense teams.
These combo are mostly critical hit teams, and they are damage oriented, meaning that they depend on critical hits to kill the other teams before the team can defend.
Try them in the maximum hero levels and see for yourselves if they are good at attacking.
Not need the best one just don't recommend the worst one HWC!
nice vid!
Cellest is ok Marha is life. :D
Luther is able to counter Martha though . . .
I thought the same and she is great for lower levels, but the longer you play and the higher level you get more people get these heroes which knock over her teapot: 1/2 the mages, Galahad, Keira, Nebula, Aurora, Arachne, Luther, Daredevil, and Cleaver of course will bring her to the front line which will cause basically any attack from frontline heroes to knock it over.
More interesting info....
Celeste is still my best healer in here ;)
soooo many good hero's to lvl up.....sigh
I got the points
If your goal is to help new players, shouldn't you be telling them that Celeste is where they should be putting their resources?
Absolutely not
@@HeroWarsCentral Then the only other alternative is to help them get into a gold league by leveling Martha for the Osh meta. But that is a long play. Celeste is by far the best early access healer and remains a great healer into the far end game. I strongly disagree - you absolutely should be encouraging new players to enhance Celeste as she will help them throughout all of the game. I will watch how often you reach for Celeste now that you are in a gold league...
The anti tanks healer
Celestial the queen