Why is this metal in the wood?
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Why do you think someone hammered so much metal into this oak tree?
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У нас в ЦПКиО "Дубовая роща" в Запорожье тоже росли дубы с вбитыми в них "костылями" и скобами. В детстве, а это чуть меньше 60-ти лет назад, мы пацанами лазали по этим "железяка". Рассказывали старые люди что их оставили "махновцы" ещё в гражданскую. Это были их наблюдательные пункты.
I'm guessing some makeshift steps to get up into the tree. Possibly for a hunting hide or something.
Yep to get up to tree Stand, a hunter using Railway Shimming Spikes.
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Bingo!
It’s also done by greenies to sabotage sawmills.
If they were driven flush my money is on greenies.
@@allangibson8494 not sure i buy that. Sounds a bit like looking for drama for the sake of it.
Also, they weren't flush, they stuck out just enough to get footing, and was spaced apart and a bit off to the left and right in a way that would fit perfect for using them as steps.
There is some in a giant sycamore on my grandfather's property put in the same pattern, and I know why they were put there . The tree was on the edge of a small corn field the sycamore was used as a tree stand by my great grandfather in the 30s railroad spikes were strong and could be found easily on the side of the tracks
That is correct. At the corner of our farm same thing huge old oak that used to be our great great grand pappy's tree stand tree. The funny thing is dating the tree against my family tree would make that tree over 250 years old. Kinda of a mind blower. In 1993 my cousin and I built or sort of built a memorial at the base of that tree after we actually found some 30/30 casings which would have been our great grand fathers since his father hunted with an old Hawkins .32 yes he even hunted deer with the .32cal. And then we found my dads 30/06 and even his dads 308 casings and finally there was one of my old .270 casings we found. Some of the shells were 10 and 20 feet away possibly moved there by animals. I bought a Garret metal detector that year circa 1993 for Christmas and in the spring we dug up and found tons of family history including an old Ford my uncle hated so much he buried it in pasture down in a ravine because he told our aunt the truck was stolen at work so he could buy a new Chevy like my dad had. Yes the spikes in that position were made for climbing. Hand forged spikes like those would easily make them 100 years old or there abouts.
Anti lumber activists would do this to make it difficult for the lumber company
@@frankcpratt yes the eco terrorists act known as tree spiking started on the west coast in the early 80's and by 1900's activist were condemning the practice because spiking had killed several mill workers .but the usually installed there spikes randomly to devalue the whole log ,climbing spikes run up one side of the tree leaving more than 3/4 of the tree unaffected.
They dont use railroad spikes to move trees. This is called tree spiking. It's an eco terror tactic where by they go out before loggers and drive railroad spikes through the treet trunk to make it a threat for logggers to fell and process the tree. Loggers leave the trees cuz it's waay more effort than it's worth for the labor of removing them.
@@reaper_exd7498 .whos moving trees with railroad spikes ?the eco terrists would place spikes at random around the trees and only used metal spikes for a very short time ,they would typically use non ferrous metals and even ceramic rods to damage blades.
Usually spiking for a tree stand involves spiking on one side whereas, spiking around the tree (as was done here) was done to deter cutting the tree as unusable due to the danger involved.
I remember having 6 inch nail driving competitions into huge pine trees on a farm as kid.Some eventually many years later after I left the area went to a saw mill.
There is an almost 400-year-old bur oak across from where I grew up. There were spikes like the ones you pulled out of that log driven into the truck by someone who wanted to climb into the upper story. They were in the tree when I was a small kid in the early 1950s. 65 years later they were hardly visible.
That's too bad that nobody has removed them. Nearly gone indicates that tree has put on some girth. Still not too late to remove them to prevent full inclusion.
Я думал костыли на заводе штампуют, а они оказывается в деревьях растут😁
Ага, сняли урожай 😃😃😃
Тут 2 варианта - либо дерево загубить быстрее хотели(что сложно сделать), либо специально навредить тем, кто его пилить будет. Других вариантов нет. Диверсия на лицо😆
@@Konstantin557 судя по толщине ствола, дерево было высокое, и если костыли забиты во все брёвна то вывод может быть такой - это лестница в небо 🤗
@@George-eb8wu , да, скорее всего лазили по ним.
@@Konstantin557 мже там вулики колоди там були , якийсь бджоляр забив щоб лазити до бджіл...
I have used RR spikes for deerstand steps! If you look at the placement of the spikes that's what it looks like to me! Steps!
Скорее всего костыли нужны были для того чтобы регулярно лазить наверх кроны.
А наверху был оборудован наблюдательный пункт или огневая точка.
Дело в Беларуси происходит, там достаточно все по-тяжелой было во время Второй мировой.
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Ета филмь из беларуссия?
Makes the most sense.
@@x0718 Да, это Беларусь.
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I agree it was used as a tree stand. When I was young we use to use railroad spikes for the same thing. We would get spikes laying around RR tracks.
These spikes were used in train line construction. They were hammered in to anchor the rails on the wooden sleepers.
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West Indies.
Based on the placement it’s cleats for climbing. It isn’t normal these days to use live trees as utility poles but it wasn’t unheard in the past. These however could have been there a long time. In the American civil war trees were used as semaphore signal towers.
Rail road spikes I have 8 in a railroad tunnel no longer used. And they are a foot apart going up the wall. It's also a great place to play harmonica
Смотрю все ваши ролики и вижу что в руках держит бензопилу один и тот же парень, возник вопрос или он у вас в рабстве или просто вам не доверяет технику))). Парни!!! вы молодцы, зарабатываете копеечку действительно своими руками. Удачи вам. С уважением Иван.
Один пилит, второй снимает и помогает в других моментах. Каждый должен заниматься своим делом. Спасибо, Иван, что смотрите нас. С Уважением авторы канала BelkoWood - Юрий и Владимир
@@BelkoWood Я понимаю, это просто я пошутил))) С уважением Иван
@@user-tt7iy9vh2w не верьте ему. Юрий, который оператор, держит Владимира, который с пилой, в рабстве)))
А вообще по делу - Юра, откуда в чистом поле столько дубовых бервенов?)
@@alexandrnikiforenko8385 Приветствую!!, неее.... ты не прав, скорее всего он не доверяет им свою любимую технику)))
По-любому в рабстве!
By the spacing of the spikes someone once used that tree to hunt from railroad spikes were used to climb in and out of the stand.
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That's what I thought too! Perfectly spaced for climbing
Rail road spikes. Used for climbing. Could be for deer stands , telegraph wiring installs. The pattern of the placement was definitely for climbing but appear decades old and how far their embedded. Say 50 ys plus so the spacing grows farther apart as the tree grows taller and the trees ring growth starts to encrust its layers over the spikes
That's not how trees grow. The spikes don't move.
Ну, народ, вы даж не молотки, вы - КУВАЛДЫ!!! Так держать! И часто вам попадаются деревья, которые было бы проще в металлолом? Сегодняшнее - второе на моей памяти. Удачи!!!
В большинстве случаев в старых деревьях есть металл, конечно не в таком количестве, но всё же))))
@@BelkoWood металлоискатель надо перед пилением прозванивать, много цепей и времени сэкономит
@@Gerich13. тоже об этом задумывался, но что делать если внутри зазвенит металл - не пилить?
Думаю они раньше нас об этом подумали. А не используют потому что это бессмысленно.
@@igor5771 можно найти и вытащить "пинпойнтер точечно ищет (это металлоискатель ручной маленький)
In America I've seen it done by the people trying to save the trees. They'll "spike" the trees with railroad spikes to damage the feller, bucker, or sawmills saws. Super dangerous. Lots of guys get hurt by saws bucking up without extra metal in the wood. I doubt that's what this is, just reminded me of it.
Yep. Eco-nuts, hit that with a saw and shrapnel flies everywhere. Some Sawyer would have a bad day.
Worst thing is most of those idiots do or have lived in houses that were made out of wood . If there was any cosmic Justice . A plane full of environmentalists would crash land into a building full of environmentalists .
I learned about this reading Edward Abbey, and it was my first thought. It probably is for a tree stand though.
Вот как и крадут втихую вековые деревья. Ходил по лесу одни пенки от дубов.
Обычное дело, это была лесенка из железнодорожных костылей!...
За долгое время чего мы только не находили в деревьях после проживания финов...
Какая порода дерево?
@@Odessa769 сосна
@@Villagerus47 Этим соснам наверно больше ста лет. Гигантские какие-то.
@@Odessa769 Не, не особо...
You really put your hand axe 🪓 to the test, and it looked like it passed with flying colors. I am impressed with how it performed from what I saw in the video.
was a shame to use it for that.... should have used a sledge or something else
Yep tree hugers was really rampant in the 80s/90s
Not in russia or belarus.. Where this is.. No these spikes are either hunters for a hide or from ww2 for partisans for snipers, was very common. You go up the tree pew pew.. And your companions keep the germans busy lower down from a camoflaged firing pit.
Tree huggers use to do that also to prevent loggers from cutting the trees down for milling .the spike would usually damage the big round blades and sometimes injure the millers
This is what I was going to suggest as well but you beat me to it
I shoulda read further before duplicating your reply!
Where did you grow up that you know that? For me it was happening in NorCal & Oregon Cascades, Earth First!
Yeah. Hippies love doing this to trees because they believe in the false faith of man made global warming. So sad
@Paul Jinkerson people spiked trees to protect old growth forests & habitat, destroyed by clear cutting. Erosion from clear cutting then silted rivers & reduced salmon breeding areas, impacting other industries & livelihoods downstream.
Forests also produce enormous volumes of clean air that benefits all life on earth.
Whether or not climate change is man made, we can still make measures to mitigate the disruption.
This is an opportunity to apply the precautionary principle. Until we know for certain something is harmful, avoid it until it's confirmed to be benign.
What have you to lose for taking the path least harmful?
@@patrickhayes3099 limbs and fingers of the loggers comes to mind. But what’s a few maimed humans to save a tree ,right ?smdh
The ladder is ingenious.
It's very hard on the axe head pounding spikes like that, it puts it out o round/oval
Прыемна глядзець як хлопцы працуюць з дрэвам! Так смачна сякера грызе цьверды дуб.
Всегда очень приятно читать такие комментарии, СПАСИБО💪💪💪💪
І праўда, вельмі прыемна ! Але некалькі слоў ад аўтара роліку вельмі б дапамаглі глыбей зразумець што і дзе адбываецца.
А дошкі-плахі вельмі прыгожыя ! Вачэй не адарваць...
Whoever adds the music to your videos does a wonderful job
Free lovers trying to prevent cutting them Down .
Tree lovers.
Most likely used to get up to a tree stand. Not terribly uncommon to find foreign objects in timber. Found horseshoes, hames, axes, porcelain insulators, wire, bullets, nails, glass, rocks and such in logs over the years. Cut one job where they had just trimmed up trees and put insulators on them to string telegraph wires across the mts years ago, line was abandoned and wires and insulators left.
I admire these fellows work ethic and very hard work. I wish they would start and finish cuts as a team. One good kick back and some is going to seriously injure themselves.
Have a nice scar to prove it.
Это железнодорожные костыли для шпал.
Именно они, кто-то мёдом видимо занимался
Они самые вариантов применения 2:
1-й уже написали ранее это залезть-слезть с дерева по расположению похоже на него
2-й защита против лесорубов обычно используется "калибр" поменьше и объем побольше чтобы точно отпало желание пилить именно это
Капитан очевидность! Ты ли это?
AN easier way to remove spikes that are protruding is to use a pipe wrench and turn them like a screw. The wood will release and them will pull right out. Less tiring than swinging a 3 or 5 lb hammer / axe.
Y’all killed it,lotta railroad spikes.kudos.good video.keep doing what your doing 😎😎😎👍👍👍
And the chain did not hit the metal. Which happens very rarely. Thank you for watching us💪💪💪✌️✌️
Growing up in Michigan we had them in a huge pine on my grandparents property. It was the biggest tree in the county, and the only way you could reach the first branches. I still remember climbing those spikes and figuring out my intense fear of heights.
Is that tree still alive today?
By the looks of the staggering I would guess someone used that tree to hunt from and those use to be the ladder
That is the most glorious chainsaw I have ever seen!
They are railroad spikes used to hold the rails in place on the ties.
Another possibility to consider ... Years ago forestry had a phone wire strung in trees for long distances. Could be for climbing to a terminal.
We believe, of course. There are many cases. We find so many interesting things in trees. But never found gold coins😅😅😅
More likely,They look like railroad spikes,old ones........
Когда-то на этом дубе была браконьерская зАсидка и костыли служили ступеньками.
@@BelkoWood not yet... any time now though....
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@@BelkoWood золотые монеты 🤣👍Золото, бриллианты 😄😁
Maybe it's better to use a metal detector first, to avoid the destruction of the chainsaw.
Hello from the US, love your channel - as for your question I guess environmentalist, "tree huggers"....used to drive steel nails and spikes into trees to prevent loggers from taking them. Don't know if they still do. Cheers!
That 2nd and 3rd logs, I would love to have some 1" of those
The spikes are a makeshift ladder to get up the tree to pollard / pick fruit or as a lookout tower , over time the tree grows around them
Protesters used to drive metal stakes or nails into logs so it would take out saw blades or lathe knives in the mills. It may not be true here but I've worked in a few mill on the west coast where I've seen it.
Какой тяжёлый и прекрасный труд. Красивые парни делают красивую работу!
In the 70s a bunch of save the trees people were around doing what they called spiking trees to tear up the chain saw if you tried to cut it down although those look like climbing spikes
May I suggest that after the first cut, remove the ladder and lay the saw on the trunk for the remaining cuts to prevent uneven thickness cuts and wobbling of the saw.
Тогда необходимо перенастраивать рамку. А если через пару спилов снова пойдёт горбатая доска? Снова ставить лестницу и перенастраивать?
If it's on the bottom of the tree, it could be for a fence , we do the same in Australia to hold the barbed wire
Servia para escalar as árvores, muito usado por caçadores.
Тут не только пилы да топоры нужны,а и металоискатели.Обалдеть.
Потому на заводах стоят металлодетекторы (сканеры). А скобы бьют и от черных лесозаготовителей
Дерево все помнит. Бывает там и поинтереснее вещи попадаются😉
и собак находят.
@@nurlan.rakhmanov.9318 сутулых
Deer stand. Had many of those in my area after they pulled several of the railroad lines in the 80's
Uwielbiam moment, kiedy odkrywa rysunek drzewa, zmiatajac wiury. Magiczny moment🙂
tekstura drewna jest bardzo piękna. Dlatego to robimy - codziennie coś nowego
Beautiful wood
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We used to use railroad spikes to climb trees like a ladder when we deer hunted.
I think it would have been easier to saw on 3-4 sides of the spike then knock it out.
Вот что меня действительно удивило
.. дак это то, что эта пила как стихл только не стихл...?..)) 10:05
…. Зачем этот металл в дереве? … Как зачем? Что бы мастера побыстрее покупали новые цепи. И , если, вдруг, у них в жизни горя не хватает , то, это самое то…
Respect brothers!
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На этом дубе наверняка была браконьерская сидка на кабанов. Что бы не колотить лесницу , забивают железно- дорожные костыли . В верху на суках делают настил из жердей можно сидеть и ждать до утра. Под дубы, ходят кабаны за желудями или на грязевые ванны. Из далека не увидишь костыли всë не преметно. 😉
Years back, environmentalists would spike trees to try and prevent loggers from deforresting an area. If the chainsae hits the spike the chain breaks and it may seriously harm the operator.
Would like to know the type and model of the saw your using and where to get please. Nice job !
Earth First used to hold seminars on how to do this to prevent logging
It more than likely wasnt nefarious... We used rail ties as steps for climbing to tree stand. Was there an old tree stand in it?
It was put into the tree to assist climbing to a tree stand for hunting. I have also used valve push rods to make climbing easier
Железнодорожные костыли в дубе??? Может так лестницу на дуб сделали?
Да скорее всего именно так и было
Sigo vcs no canal a muito tempo aprendi muita coisas com vcs
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These spikes were used to build the underground railroad and simply stayed inside the trees. DNC history lesson.
Балдёжное видео:-) Как и всегда:-)
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That was a good deer stand!
Hello,
Your videos are really great. Thank you for sharing this.
I would like to know what type of chain you use for your sawing. What angles do you use to sharpen them?
Thank you for all
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Looks like tree huggers got to your tree before you did. Good find really. Tha gree grew up as you did. The find may have cost you more damage as intended had you gents were being good boys.
Lucky you found the steel now instead of when they get grown Over with bark
my grandpa used to hang his random yard tools like a shovel or rake or whatever in the notches of trees and then forget that he put them there and all the trees grew around them so you just be walking and see a shovel sticking out of the tree hahaha
Я думаю,бить топором хоть и по мелким , но железкам - так себе идея, разве что не было другого выхода.
Years ago, activists used to drive huge spikes into trees to stop loggers from cutting them down and destroying the tree. Not sure if these are of the same vein of thought but worth a mention.
если они были вбиты по всей длине ствола то возможно кто то по ним залезал на дерево или что то было привязано к ним
Скорее всего да, использовали их в качестве лестницы, вероятнее бортники
The Sawmill would be very happy.
Baileys used to offer a Metal detector with a concave dish to check before you saw
Вы со всяким железом в дереве не первый раз сталкиваетесеь. Может глупый вопрос. С гвоздями "закисшими" помогает сначала ударить на забивание, чтобы сорвать его с места. Или по вашему опыту это не работает?
Пионеры!) На дереве был домик для детей;)
Use induction to heat the spikes and, they will burn themselves loose, and then it will be easy to lift them out.
People are Cruel for the Tree 🌳 too ( Beautiful woods and Work
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I say that your trees has been just as hideouts. The nails as steps up hasty and safe.
Probably yes
Just wondering what you're using those thick pieces of wood for normally you cut them one inch, they don't work is easy. The railroad spikes were put in probably 30 years ago if they were older than 30 years they've already disappeared into the wood he wouldn't even know they were there.good job getting them out.
Those slabs are used in furniture production. HIGH END furniture.
Доброго времени вам, ребята. Вопрос...а какой угол заточки для продольного реза вы точите?
Yikes!, railroad spikes. At least they were visible- old deer stand maybe?
I’ve heard of spiking. I’m not sure how it’s done. It’s supposed to make the cutting of old growth forests less profitable for people who want to cut them down. Finding just one spike with a blade is expensive.
И один фиг были спилены.
Эээх
Жалко лес.
С друг стороны, видя что творите из дерева - это огонь 👍
Деревья тоже смертны. Хоть не на дрова пошло, уже хорошо. А деревья бацка новых заставит посадить, он сажать любит
Так роспіл е! На таки слейди!
Від деревени теж бомба!
Але це я дивлюсь у кожному
вашему роспіле! Шановно,а що далі відбуваеться хотілось
би побачити!
Here in the Philippines if you find centennial tree in the forest with single nail that means sign of treasure buried by Japanese army during word war 2.but that nail is to much may be they use it climb that tree
Would it have been possible to start - where the log becomes to wide - from the wider side? Cut left arm, cut right arm (as deep as possible) and then turn the saw around and continue from the bottom side of the log?
Maybe a little more saw handling but maybe as well a nicer cut?
The hippies used to do that to try to get the loggers to stop cutting down trees when they’d be cutting them in the boards they would fly out and hurt the people operating the sawmill
They were drove in for tree stand steps
Its called spiking, a method landowners would use to keep loggers from poaching there trees.spiking started gaining popularity in the 20s and has destroyed millions of dollars in sawmill equipment and is now illegal to do in Michigan with heavy fines and jail time. My dads a tree climber for more than 25 years and some of the stories he tells me are interestingly captivating.
They're makeshift tree pegs homeboy, my cousin found an old lever action rifle grown into a tree one time
Cadillac of deer stand steps.
Tree huggers use rebar at a steep angle & drive it in deep. Cost me a chain or 2...
That's how deer hunters climbed into trees back in the day railroad spikes
Na Europa, as serrarias tem q usar RX ou detectores de metal, nas toras, antes de as serrar, pois devido às guerras, muitas delas tem balas e ou estlhaços de granadas, até de widia !
We used those as steps to our deer stands when I was a mere boy😅
It is for climbing, for some reason. But not for hurt. The way you can cut today, they had no idea of anything like it . That is an old, old tree. Think back. Love
I bet some kids built a tree fort and used those lovely rail road spikes as a ladder.
I heard of a guy putting railroad spikes in his black walnut trees because someone stole his trees. It could've been done by a hunter or some tree hugger
I've seen railroad spikes in trees, it's almost always for climbing purposes, the tree huggers try to hide them and most often use screws cuz they too weak to pound a spike🤘👽🤘
So we think that it was either the hunters who drove in order to hunt from above. Or beekeepers🐝🐝🐝🐝.
Most likely for climbing. That's just for what purpose they climbed a tree. It's a question
@@BelkoWood Or a treehouse --- Maybe snipers
It could be that tree was used as an anchor for logging.
Это прибрежное дерево, к которому крепилась баржа на время стоянки. Такой костыль не только для железной дороги. На Березине дуб спилен? Там таких много.
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I would assume to climb up the tree? Maybe a treehouse at some point?