"No, my brother's not a playing card, he deserves a strong name". I kind of agree with this. Ace is cute but he is a Cassasdine. They all have strong names.
@Sheree Jewell But Nikolas said he named him Spencer for Lucky and Lulu to bridge the gap between Spencer's and Cassasdine's. I mean Spencer is a strong name but I think he also gave him the name to piss off some of his relatives. I mean Luke killed off most of the Cassasdine's.
@@YaaAgubyKete From what I understand, I know he killed Mikkos, Helena's husband and then over the years it was implied that he killed a few more, I'm not sure.
I mean technically yes that was shitty and esme should pay for her crimes but tbh Ryan did create her to make her think in that way. She doesn’t know real love and what it means to have interactions where you aren’t manipulating people.
So… it’s okay for Spencer to go to prison when he was manipulated by Esme, but Esme gets a pass? She only manipulated Spencer because Ryan manipulated her… please make that make sense. Laura can go now.
He would absolutely have a lot of support. I know a lot of people have their issues with Spencer being a guardian because of his age and inexperience, but he's 20 and has more means than most people. Truthfully, even if he was 30, doing anything for the 1st time is trial and error, and you learn along the way. That's the reality for 1st time parents or guardians. He's in a much better situation than Annabelle. I don't particularly care for this SL, but if it brings Sprina closer (MOC), then I'll suffer through it.
@@KeshaSA Also, sis. I'm beyond tired of all the Spencer hating. I'm really over it and I'm tired of him being held to a higher standard but his peers and even the adults are given free passes. He's one of the few characters who has owned up to what he's done, done some time and is actively working on being better.
You know there’s been a lot of situations where a lot of families have kids and the next thing you know they’re in situations where a older brother or older sister just so happens to be a guardian of a little brother or a little sister and it seems to me that Spencer is in that picture based on his pride and how protective he is and how he changed since he got released from jail.
I'm assuming that Laura is suffering from amnesia as well. I'm sick and appalled that they are using her as Annabelles redeemer. That vile creature was horrible. The fact that her only redeeming quality is that she can't remember what a monster she was just shows how unlikable they made her. Annabelle framed and drugged Trina, violated Cam(your grandson) and Minis most intimate moment, and drugged Oz. All this was done WITHOUT Ryan's input. So, miss me with this Ryan made her do it BS. Again, find Jesus and ALL the Apostles for redemption Annabelle because you need all the help you can get. Last thing, Laura Spencer and Annabelle are the same age. If he's too young, then so is she. But Dikolas slept with her anyway. Let's not forget that.
U are right, Laura has amnesia. She can't be that dumb or crazy. Because I don't see after a few days with her she's all team esme. She lived with her n didn't like her n now she is on her side. I understand every child should be raised with a mother but in certain situations it should be the case. In this case, Esme needs to be far away from that baby. Spencer to, as he's too young n needs to have a life. The child should be raised by his grandparents or placed for adoption.
😂 i agree!!! I just think and other people have also already said this. That GH really likes to use pregnancy to “redeem” some bad female characters. It s just very wrong. GH, do better.
@Ritnicha27 Hey Friend. I think that as well. It's a bit insulting to think that our our only path to redemption as a female is through pregnancy. This Annabelle redemption is falling flat because none of her victims has had the opportunity to speak their minds and get closure, Spencer included. GH needs to quit with all the babies and write more compelling SL, and stop writing characters into these horrible boxes. Unless and until they address all the elephants 🐘 in the room with regards to Trina and the racial undertones, the s*xu*l exploitation of Cam and Mini, and the emotional and mental abuse of Spencer, this entire Annabelle redemption arc is a Hell No for me. BTW you are so lovely. 😊
@@lisacox3750 Well unless Esme gets the charges dropped next soon, gets a job and home she isn't a good candidate to raise a baby. Some mothers get to be in a prison with their baby but it's not ideal. Most babies are taken away from their incarcerated mother after 48 or 72 hours birth. They're given to a relative or foster care. So even if Spencer didn't get custody , his grandmother Laura or Uncles Victor or Sonny could step up. They're that babies family too.
Spencer is one of the few responsible people on this show. He also may be the only person to go to prison and reform. His circumstances may not be ideal to be a parent,m to his brother, but he's a better option than Laura and esme. I hope Victor intervenes and convinces the judge to grant Spencer custody (without Spencer knowing). I hope the writers continue to not screw this up.
Laura needs some perspective. I need just one person to list every monster in port Charles who has kids. Having kids isn’t a some type of moral reset. We get it, she’s kind. But having laura play the fool to Esme is such a bad choice. I’ll be honest, I’m almost want her to get screwed over, so she can feel first hand what Esme is capable of.
It's insane to me since Laura was the one that literally called Annabelle a scorpion 🦂. I can't express how much I hate this coddling and over compensation of that witch. She came with the sole purpose of decimating Laura's entire family, and sadly, it seems like she is aiding and abetting Annabelle in doing so.
@@KeshaSA 💯. I understand Laura projecting her own life onto this situation a little, but completely caping for her makes little sense to me. The writing has Laura out here looking stupid. And that’s me being kind. No way any reasonable person would live through what Lauras family experienced the last year with Esme and not be more cautious. Even if you wanted to believe she had possibly changed. Holding hands and laughing with a girl who filmed revenge porn of one of your grandsons and is the reason your other grandson went to jail? I need someone to call out Laura at this point.
@@nfgc86 I'm really trying to exhibit some growth with this nonsense, but it's hard. I wonder how all the other moms (Portia, Liz, and Carly) are going to feel about this Annabelle re-do? After all, it was their kids that were directly impacted.
@@KeshaSA Carly got to snatch esme up at the metrocourt, so they probably think that’s good enough…They already had Elizabeth being Esme’s caretaker and falling on her sword out of guilt bc of Nik…And frankly, I don’t think the show has the balls to let Portia have a moment around this. They let her go off on Spencer once and I bet that’s the only response we’ll get….there’s no concern about having real reactions, just a speedy redemption.
I love this I'm glad laura doesn't agree with spencer taking the baby and that she saw that esme obviously loves this baby and I hate that spencer is talking about changing his name even his mother already gave him a name like you are not this baby parents I totally agree with everything Laura is telling him like this isn't your child spencer like I really hope Laura helps esme keep her baby I can tell laura hated it more when victor came in I much rather laura and Kevin get the baby if not esme please don't let spencer get this baby.
Laura is tripping. Esme willingly jumped in the ocean knowing she was pregnant. She's unfit. Her crimes were not from the direction of Ryan. They were by her own direction. Ryan told her to leave Trina alone. Esme is evil.
I understand Spencer wants to keep his little brother safe, even from Esme or even worse Nikolas... I do not agree with the idea of changing his name, (like you said not his kids), being related to the Cassadine family is certainly not something to brag about. Whether or not Esme has amnesia doesn't absolve her of all the harm she's caused, and as far as I'm concerned, she should pay for her crimes, sooner or later the amnesia will pass (or she is soo good to fake an amnesia, and she never had one in the first place). Amnesia or not, right here righ now, at least in my opinion, as much as Esme loves her son, she's nowhere near fit to be a mother. In my opinion, the best choice so for Is: Laura and Kevin to take care of the child… after all, they are the only two in that family who wouldn't ruin the child, or prevent him from having a healthy relationship with Esme.
@@jazzwhitney3333 I have been saying this about Esme, she didn't think of her baby's safety when she jumped. Yes, Ryan did tell her to leave Trina alone. I think she still has her memories. I hope Spencer does not get trapped in her web again.
"No, my brother's not a playing card, he deserves a strong name". I kind of agree with this. Ace is cute but he is a Cassasdine. They all have strong names.
@Sheree Jewell
But Nikolas said he named him Spencer for Lucky and Lulu to bridge the gap between Spencer's and Cassasdine's. I mean Spencer is a strong name but I think he also gave him the name to piss off some of his relatives. I mean Luke killed off most of the Cassasdine's.
@@jacklynlawson which Cassadine did Luke kill off?
@@YaaAgubyKete
From what I understand, I know he killed Mikkos, Helena's husband and then over the years it was implied that he killed a few more, I'm not sure.
Not EVERYTHING Esme did was under Ryan’s orders, Laura 😑!
Yeah, Esme didn't make that video of Joss and Cameron having sex and framed Trina for the crime under Ryans orders.
Exactly. Ryan even told her to cut it out and focus on why she was there in the first place.
I mean technically yes that was shitty and esme should pay for her crimes but tbh Ryan did create her to make her think in that way. She doesn’t know real love and what it means to have interactions where you aren’t manipulating people.
Or seduced Nikolas@@mosessteenbeke9494
Yea she also threating joss and cam and Trina
So… it’s okay for Spencer to go to prison when he was manipulated by Esme, but Esme gets a pass? She only manipulated Spencer because Ryan manipulated her… please make that make sense. Laura can go now.
This!
Esme didn't have to follow Ryan orders she chose to do evil, Ryan was locked up .
Spencer was so adorable. He won't be on his own, raising the baby. He'll be with Laura.
And Trina too... she's all in with him.
And Sonny will offer support
He would absolutely have a lot of support. I know a lot of people have their issues with Spencer being a guardian because of his age and inexperience, but he's 20 and has more means than most people. Truthfully, even if he was 30, doing anything for the 1st time is trial and error, and you learn along the way. That's the reality for 1st time parents or guardians. He's in a much better situation than Annabelle. I don't particularly care for this SL, but if it brings Sprina closer (MOC), then I'll suffer through it.
@@KeshaSA I hear that, sis
@@KeshaSA Also, sis. I'm beyond tired of all the Spencer hating. I'm really over it and I'm tired of him being held to a higher standard but his peers and even the adults are given free passes. He's one of the few characters who has owned up to what he's done, done some time and is actively working on being better.
You know there’s been a lot of situations where a lot of families have kids and the next thing you know they’re in situations where a older brother or older sister just so happens to be a guardian of a little brother or a little sister and it seems to me that Spencer is in that picture based on his pride and how protective he is and how he changed since he got released from jail.
I'm assuming that Laura is suffering from amnesia as well. I'm sick and appalled that they are using her as Annabelles redeemer. That vile creature was horrible. The fact that her only redeeming quality is that she can't remember what a monster she was just shows how unlikable they made her. Annabelle framed and drugged Trina, violated Cam(your grandson) and Minis most intimate moment, and drugged Oz. All this was done WITHOUT Ryan's input. So, miss me with this Ryan made her do it BS.
Again, find Jesus and ALL the Apostles for redemption Annabelle because you need all the help you can get.
Last thing, Laura Spencer and Annabelle are the same age. If he's too young, then so is she. But Dikolas slept with her anyway. Let's not forget that.
U are right, Laura has amnesia. She can't be that dumb or crazy. Because I don't see after a few days with her she's all team esme. She lived with her n didn't like her n now she is on her side. I understand every child should be raised with a mother but in certain situations it should be the case. In this case, Esme needs to be far away from that baby. Spencer to, as he's too young n needs to have a life. The child should be raised by his grandparents or placed for adoption.
FACTS!!!
😂 i agree!!! I just think and other people have also already said this. That GH really likes to use pregnancy to “redeem” some bad female characters. It s just very wrong. GH, do better.
@Ritnicha27 Hey Friend. I think that as well. It's a bit insulting to think that our our only path to redemption as a female is through pregnancy. This Annabelle redemption is falling flat because none of her victims has had the opportunity to speak their minds and get closure, Spencer included. GH needs to quit with all the babies and write more compelling SL, and stop writing characters into these horrible boxes. Unless and until they address all the elephants 🐘 in the room with regards to Trina and the racial undertones, the s*xu*l exploitation of Cam and Mini, and the emotional and mental abuse of Spencer, this entire Annabelle redemption arc is a Hell No for me. BTW you are so lovely. 😊
This. Needed. To. Be. Said!!!! Thank you, Kesha
Spencer is 19 or 20 and they're younger parents than that. 😐 Plus Spencer is rich so he's far more advanced than most young parents financially.
Nikolas wasn't that much older than Spencer is when Spencer was born. Laura was pretty young when she gave birth to Nikolas too.
Its not just his youth, its his incredible privilege that has made him someone looked after and not someone who looks after. But lets see how it goes
@@lisacox3750 Well unless Esme gets the charges dropped next soon, gets a job and home she isn't a good candidate to raise a baby. Some mothers get to be in a prison with their baby but it's not ideal. Most babies are taken away from their incarcerated mother after 48 or 72 hours birth. They're given to a relative or foster care. So even if Spencer didn't get custody , his grandmother Laura or Uncles Victor or Sonny could step up. They're that babies family too.
Amazing grandma grandson talks
Spencer is one of the few responsible people on this show. He also may be the only person to go to prison and reform.
His circumstances may not be ideal to be a parent,m to his brother, but he's a better option than Laura and esme. I hope Victor intervenes and convinces the judge to grant Spencer custody (without Spencer knowing).
I hope the writers continue to not screw this up.
Victor should just stop trying to keep this family together
Spencer looked adorable but not comfortable holding a baby carrier
Larua is more on Esme's side than Spencer's side and the baby's side!
So Nicholas didn’t abandon Spencer????
She said it with a straight face too. 🫤
Laura needs some perspective. I need just one person to list every monster in port Charles who has kids. Having kids isn’t a some type of moral reset.
We get it, she’s kind. But having laura play the fool to Esme is such a bad choice. I’ll be honest, I’m almost want her to get screwed over, so she can feel first hand what Esme is capable of.
It's insane to me since Laura was the one that literally called Annabelle a scorpion 🦂. I can't express how much I hate this coddling and over compensation of that witch. She came with the sole purpose of decimating Laura's entire family, and sadly, it seems like she is aiding and abetting Annabelle in doing so.
@@KeshaSA 💯. I understand Laura projecting her own life onto this situation a little, but completely caping for her makes little sense to me. The writing has Laura out here looking stupid. And that’s me being kind. No way any reasonable person would live through what Lauras family experienced the last year with Esme and not be more cautious. Even if you wanted to believe she had possibly changed. Holding hands and laughing with a girl who filmed revenge porn of one of your grandsons and is the reason your other grandson went to jail? I need someone to call out Laura at this point.
@@nfgc86 I'm really trying to exhibit some growth with this nonsense, but it's hard. I wonder how all the other moms (Portia, Liz, and Carly) are going to feel about this Annabelle re-do? After all, it was their kids that were directly impacted.
@@KeshaSA Carly got to snatch esme up at the metrocourt, so they probably think that’s good enough…They already had Elizabeth being Esme’s caretaker and falling on her sword out of guilt bc of Nik…And frankly, I don’t think the show has the balls to let Portia have a moment around this. They let her go off on Spencer once and I bet that’s the only response we’ll get….there’s no concern about having real reactions, just a speedy redemption.
@Nfgc86 Unfortunately, I think you're right about the moms. Can we at least get the victims to have their POV expressed? I mean something.
#LMMN I don't blame Spencer dad isn't there and I agree with Spencer he is ready to be a parent I agree with Laura u are on Spencer side
Awe Spencer !!
Yes Spencer and Laura
THAT SHIRT on Spencer…🫠🫠🫠
Everytime I watch SPencer and Laura scene together all I see is Courtney and Spencer scenes.
Laura is a is a sentimental fool when it comes to Esme!
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I love this I'm glad laura doesn't agree with spencer taking the baby and that she saw that esme obviously loves this baby and I hate that spencer is talking about changing his name even his mother already gave him a name like you are not this baby parents I totally agree with everything Laura is telling him like this isn't your child spencer like I really hope Laura helps esme keep her baby I can tell laura hated it more when victor came in I much rather laura and Kevin get the baby if not esme please don't let spencer get this baby.
Laura is tripping. Esme willingly jumped in the ocean knowing she was pregnant. She's unfit. Her crimes were not from the direction of Ryan. They were by her own direction. Ryan told her to leave Trina alone. Esme is evil.
I understand Spencer wants to keep his little brother safe, even from Esme or even worse Nikolas...
I do not agree with the idea of changing his name, (like you said not his kids), being related to the Cassadine family is certainly not something to brag about. Whether or not Esme has amnesia doesn't absolve her of all the harm she's caused, and as far as I'm concerned, she should pay for her crimes, sooner or later the amnesia will pass (or she is soo good to fake an amnesia, and she never had one in the first place).
Amnesia or not, right here righ now, at least in my opinion, as much as Esme loves her son, she's nowhere near fit to be a mother.
In my opinion, the best choice so for Is: Laura and Kevin to take care of the child… after all, they are the only two in that family who wouldn't ruin the child, or prevent him from having a healthy relationship with Esme.
@@jazzwhitney3333 I have been saying this about Esme, she didn't think of her baby's safety when she jumped. Yes, Ryan did tell her to leave Trina alone. I think she still has her memories. I hope Spencer does not get trapped in her web again.
@Sheree Jewell which web get a life trina is the good one here not esme so which web are you talking about
@Sheree Jewell do you watch the same show as the rest of us? Serious question 🙋♀️