Difficult Intravenous (IV) cannulation #2: Triple Tourniquet Technique

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  • 0:58 Technique of Triple Tourniquets For IV Access
    If you liked our difficult IV access video on this channel ( • How to insert difficul... ), you will love this one as well. In our previous video that went viral, Dr. Hadzic described the reverse Esmarch technique to facilitate cannulation of difficult veins. The response to this video has been simply amazing and if you read the comments, you will see that many paramedic and nursing units have made that video a mandatory watch for the entire staff. However, there may be times when difficult IV access can be also solved by a simpler and faster method, or in situations where the rubber Esmarch is not readily available. In this video, Dr. Hadzic will demonstrate a technique using a triple Tourniquet and two additional crucial principles for successful peripheral venous cannulation in patients with difficult IV access.
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  • @nysoravideo
    @nysoravideo  2 месяца назад +2

    Take your IV skills to the next level and make a lasting impact on your professional life and patient care. Get your copy of the NYSORA’s Manual on Difficult IV Access today and be the change you wish to see in your medical practice! community.nysora.com/IVAccessManualYT

  • @CatFromFL
    @CatFromFL 2 года назад +205

    I am a retired CRNI and taught IV certification courses for many years. The mistakes I saw most frequently are 1. “rushing”, not allowing enough time for peripheral veins to fill and 2. clinicians using their eyes instead of “feel”, using sense of touch to isolate the veins. Failure to not know sufficient vein anatomy can really be problematic too. Allowing 2 minutes for the veins to fill also gives time for the alcohol prep to evaporate and hence minimize any alcohol sting upon venipuncture.

    • @joannaluca8495
      @joannaluca8495 Год назад +9

      That’s a long time to have the tight tourniquet on!!

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад +3

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    • @revieworr
      @revieworr Год назад +8

      @@joannaluca8495 pop goes the K from the cell

    • @josesamueldepaula9142
      @josesamueldepaula9142 Год назад +2

      É muito útil tb usar a gravidade a nosso favor, 1 a 2 min com o membro "caído" ao lado da mesa, antes do garroteamento. Top! Obrigado por seus ensinamentos Prof. Radzic!

    • @GougedandLeft
      @GougedandLeft Год назад +6

      Lol I wish we could do it for two minutes. That’s way too long. Elevated labs for sure.

  • @neilbob
    @neilbob Год назад +4

    Got called by a Dr for a cannula in a very odematous patient with low blood pressure. Triple tourniquet method and taking my time got me there first try.
    Thank you for the video

  • @sana-cm7oc
    @sana-cm7oc Год назад +16

    Dr. Hadzic, hope you realize just how big an impact you are having on the lives of patients. Thank you. 🙂

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Hi Sana! Thank you! We are grateful for your message. Greetings from NYSORA!

  • @Koyote747
    @Koyote747 Год назад +21

    I once saw a group of doctors call an old midwife at a local hospital, to put an iv on a 600gr tiny human, it was "too risky" they said, tiny human can die if it is wrong. She got the iv, look at tiny human, said something to tiny human, made eye contact, talk like if it was her child, grab the arm, wiggle it around carefully, then put the iv like she had done the exact the same thing a couple million times, not a flinch, not a cry, nothing, one swift -elegant- movement, everyone was dead silent and look at her like a goddes.

  • @gualdus
    @gualdus 2 года назад +3

    Fantástico,muy instructivo y práctico 👍🏻

  • @Bill.R.124
    @Bill.R.124 Год назад +24

    Great ideas. Beware of walking away with the tourniquet left on and forgetting it. Also these techniques of stagnating blood flow will lead to hemolysis of RBCs so drawing labs at same time may lead to a hemolyzed sample

  • @heyanesthesia4840
    @heyanesthesia4840 Год назад +33

    I think one thing often overlooked is the fact that in a difficult IV situation, especially after multiple attempts by multiple people, is go smaller; a 24g iv usually works perfectly well for induction, then if needed, a larger iv can be inserted after the pt is asleep. Not only can you be more aggressive without hurting the pt, but the anesthesia will cause the veins to dilate, making successful cannulation easier.

    • @MrsDauphinee
      @MrsDauphinee Год назад

      My biggest worry getting surgery or a procedure is the darn IV; I've gone through pure torture so many times because of all the unsuccessful jabbing and shoving. The small one works best for me, but it seems they know better and never listen to me or my body. 😕

    • @Marieezy40
      @Marieezy40 5 месяцев назад

      @@MrsDauphineeyou can tell them no, not to stick you unless it’s with a 24g

    • @joestevenson5568
      @joestevenson5568 10 дней назад

      ​@@Marieezy40And in return they can tell you no, no surgery today.

  • @DarkoLHS
    @DarkoLHS 2 года назад +7

    Hvala doktore na divnim snimcima!

  • @mels117
    @mels117 2 года назад +15

    It looks so easy when you know and use the right technique 🤩

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      Indeed. There is a skill for everything! Regards and thanks for watching.

  • @hawong5379
    @hawong5379 2 года назад +6

    Wow, IV magic show !
    Thx for your expert insight

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад

      Hi HA Wong! Thank you for your comment! Make sure you subscribe to the channel so that you do not miss some super educational upcoming videos!

  • @ivankaramazov8511
    @ivankaramazov8511 2 года назад +2

    Great Video!!! Thanks

  • @alfaalex101
    @alfaalex101 Год назад +6

    Sometimes I’ll dim the lights and shine my iPhone flashlight by the side of the patient’s arm and creep the light gradually over the arm using the slight shadows caused by the veins followed by light palpating to verify vein location.

  • @patriciapruitt2060
    @patriciapruitt2060 Год назад +9

    AS an LPN in ER, I was called to start many IV’s. Love your advice.

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Thanks for the positive feedback, Patricia. That's what it's all about :). Greetings from our team.

  • @carlosmontoya7021
    @carlosmontoya7021 2 года назад +131

    Using a blood preasure cuff accomplishes the same thing and allows better control of backpreasure in older adults with fragile veins.🤕

    • @ossamaiqbal7650
      @ossamaiqbal7650 2 года назад +2

      Thankyou for your comment!

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +7

      Hi Carlos. Agree, where available - venostasis function on an automated blood pressure cuff is better. Best regards and thank you for sharing experience!

    • @mohammedalaskary342
      @mohammedalaskary342 2 года назад +3

      Excellent comment thank you!!!

    • @thunda789
      @thunda789 2 года назад +6

      was looking for this reply, Inflate to 60mmHg. You can go a bit higher, or go lower for pts with fragile atherosclerotic veins that pop the moment you insert the needle.

    • @MLarios97
      @MLarios97 2 года назад +1

      The blood pressure cuff thing was shown less than 2 mins into the video, are you mentally challenged?

  • @deepudeepu9878
    @deepudeepu9878 2 года назад +2

    I gonna try...thanks for ur valuebale video

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад

      Most welcome!

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      Thank you Depu! Glad you like the video. Thank you for watching. Do subscribe to this channel and share with your colleagues; a lot more videos are coming up - let's share our clinical experience! Cheers!

  • @juleenvdp
    @juleenvdp Год назад

    Thank you for making this! Helps a lot :)

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Glad it helped! Stay connected-a lot more is coming soon! Greetings!

  • @joseramoncabanas
    @joseramoncabanas 2 года назад +47

    We usually applied medical techniques that we´ve learned before without taking into consideration many obvious maneuvers. The main reason is falling under pressure to become procedures as fast as possible, and that´s the biggest mistake we do make when we probably have wrong decisions. Then we have to be aware that we are under pressure, and then we must slow down and take it calmly, then we will succeed the first time and we´ll get it in a short time. Then don´t worry, and take it easy!

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      Hi Jose. This is 100% correct. Greetings!

    • @pamowen3452
      @pamowen3452 2 года назад

      I can’t make sense of this comment, medical techniques, falling under pressure to become procedures as fast as possible?

    • @joseramoncabanas
      @joseramoncabanas 2 года назад +1

      @@pamowen3452 Well. It´s obvious. Our work as anesthesiologists is regarding goals and organization. If a medical organization is not working by professional criteria, then we´ve anesthetized faster and succeeded at the first attempt to recover the wrong way. Then the mistakes came up quickly. Then, we were under pressure as I told you in the previous comment. That's all.⏳⌛

    • @pamowen3452
      @pamowen3452 2 года назад +2

      @@joseramoncabanas now that makes more sense to me, might be a difference of language that made it difficult for me to understand. Thank you for clarifying!

    • @pochola4550
      @pochola4550 2 года назад +1

      Efectivamente. Respirar y parar un poco antes de pinchar aunque tengamos 200 cosas por hacer despues de poner la via.

  • @joshsteele5701
    @joshsteele5701 2 года назад +2

    Finally a helpful iv video

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад

      Glad you liked it!

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      Hey Josh! Greetings! And thanks for watching. Do subscribe to this channel as there's more coming up. And let's share the collective experience so that we all get better in what we do!

  • @chriskilburn261
    @chriskilburn261 2 года назад +7

    The only issue with using heat, on renal and chf patients their veins are already overly dilated distal from the forearm. Even if you can pierce these veins successfully, any irritation or pressure can cause the vein to blow.

  • @ryan-qg3qb
    @ryan-qg3qb 2 года назад +14

    for difficult veins we use elastic bandage, BP cuff with bending the iv cath ( bifurcation) but this technique is a good addition to allow enough time for vein engorgement

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад +3

      Indeed. Thank you for your comment! Make sure you subscribe to the channel so that you do not miss some super educational upcoming videos!

  • @rohithvarma3691
    @rohithvarma3691 Год назад +1

    Cool technique 😎

  • @SpecOpsGear
    @SpecOpsGear 3 месяца назад

    s march is a great idea.

  • @DTraylor
    @DTraylor 2 года назад +3

    I tend to use a larger blood pressure cuff, it seems to push blood distal to the cuff and fill the veins after placing a tourniquet then place the blood pressure cuff below the tourniquet,or go straight to external jugular or saphenous vein.

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад +1

      Hey David Traylor! That is also great. We all get better this way. Make sure you subscribe to this channel; a lot more is coming soon! Greetings!

  • @aircavmedic
    @aircavmedic 2 года назад +7

    Never used triple tourniquets. Interesting. Went to school 1 year extra for IV nurse. Good discussion. Always start distally, working proximal especially if on long term therapy. Cepalic vein is natural splint. I also used basilic vein, standing behind patient. It is a skill, have used direct and indirect puncture. It seems, a lot go for ACF, ruining, lower veins, and infiltration is a higher risk( my opinion). I used 1 hand technique, never letting go of initial traction, until I thread, lowering bevel of needle, the threading catheter. Well done

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      That is really great. Thank you for sharing. We all get better this way. Make sure you subscribe to this channel; a lot more is coming soon! Greetings!

  • @saralam2008
    @saralam2008 2 года назад +2

    Thanks 😊

  • @emilyb5557
    @emilyb5557 2 года назад +6

    Easy heat source - get a glove fill with hot water (test on your acf it isn't too hot) then place over veins with tourniquet on & arm lowered. Works a treat and "kit" available on every ward!

    • @emilyb5557
      @emilyb5557 2 года назад

      Obviously tie the top of the glove securely :p

    • @carlosmontoya7021
      @carlosmontoya7021 Год назад

      Great idea!

    • @donnamaas4909
      @donnamaas4909 5 месяцев назад

      A lot of places will not allow this, re policy. Great idea though

  • @dastankhoda326
    @dastankhoda326 Год назад

    Perfect

  • @Luis-bo2uj
    @Luis-bo2uj Месяц назад +1

    would this be used for blood sampling if make quickly enough?

  • @flaviusmersan4110
    @flaviusmersan4110 2 года назад +8

    I’m so gonna try this the next time when I find it difficult to find a vain. Thx 🙏🏻

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      You should. And take your TIME. Do NOT rush. Greetings.

    • @ryanjefferson1428
      @ryanjefferson1428 2 года назад

      Vein

    • @MLarios97
      @MLarios97 2 года назад

      God's mercy on anyone that ends up under your hands, you can't even spell vein

    • @ryanjefferson1428
      @ryanjefferson1428 2 года назад

      😂

    • @MsJakeG
      @MsJakeG 2 года назад +1

      @@MLarios97 it’s my favorite when people use God to demean and demoralize someone on a public forum. I’m sure your imaginary friend in the sky is smiling down in pride at your grace and tenderness.

  • @aliciahart83
    @aliciahart83 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for your videos. Plan on getting your book. One question, can you use a 4x 4 ace bandage in reverse in place of the esmarch bandage? I can’t seem to find it anywhere where I am at. Thank you

  • @sherrydawson6253
    @sherrydawson6253 2 года назад +9

    Gosh I have difficult veins
    1. Your rt they rush rt in and miss
    2. I've suggested a warm towel and wait a few min. Most won't
    3. Since it usually takes up to 9 tries
    4. U can bet I will suggest 3 now. Thanks

    • @donnam5060
      @donnam5060 2 года назад +2

      Bookmark this video and get them to watch it at the blood draw place!

    • @KatrinaJoy225
      @KatrinaJoy225 2 года назад

      @@donnam5060it's not "drawing blood", which is very easy... this is about starting IVs.

    • @user-pe1by4hg1f
      @user-pe1by4hg1f 2 года назад +1

      better to use a hot pack than a warm towel.

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Thank you for watching. If you found this video useful, make sure you watch the latest release with complimentary information ruclips.net/video/CGaMWDI6Vxk/видео.html And do not forget to SUBSCRIBE and never miss new releases. Greetings from NYSORA!

  • @gkimunge
    @gkimunge 2 года назад +23

    Forgetting one tourniquet is bad, Forgetting 3 is a disaster.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      Indeed. Thank you for your comment! Make sure you subscribe to the channel so that you do not miss some super educational upcoming videos!

    • @emilyb5557
      @emilyb5557 2 года назад +1

      Yup agreed, and esp when advicing wait 1-2 min - agreed the wait is so often missed. But never oewve bedside w 1 (or more) torniquets on - if you get pulled away/distracted the results may be serious.

  • @drakeruiz6477
    @drakeruiz6477 2 года назад +7

    “If one is helpful, 3 is more helpful”

  • @mattshaw6259
    @mattshaw6259 2 года назад +1

    Nice interesting collection of pesrls

  • @lesleysmith2166
    @lesleysmith2166 2 года назад +4

    When I was just in the hospital and the nurses couldn't find a vein a nurse from a special team used ultrasound. He couldn't find any veins in one arm, but got one in the other but it wasn't to find even then.

  • @mskss9411
    @mskss9411 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video. What do you mean by 'bending the catheter'. bending down? are you literally using finger to push catheter down before insertion? Please explain.

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад

      Hey Ms KSS! “Bending the needle-catheter” meaning - bending the needle slightly to allow shallow angle of insertion into the vein. Make sure you subscribe to the channel so that you do not miss some super educational upcoming videos!

  • @tomminogranatino2719
    @tomminogranatino2719 2 года назад +3

    in caso di vene molto difficili da trovare,prima di adottare delle procedure invasive o comunque fastidiose per i pazienti per la somministrazione di farmaci opto sempre per una venipuntura arteriosa radiale;premettendo che con un ago a farfalla numero 25 si riescono a trovare numerose vene sulle dita della mano,ricordando che le vene sui piedi e sulle gambe talvolta evitano procedure fastidiose e dolorose per i pazienti.in caso poi di emergenza da codice salvavita ci si opta ove non reperibili vene ed arterie la somministrazione intraossea.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      Great. Thank you for sharing. And make sure you subscribe to this RUclips channel - we have a lot more really interesting videos coming up soon.

  • @Westcoastmtbi
    @Westcoastmtbi 2 года назад +2

    One word, ultrasound. Thank me later, patients will sing u praises🙏👊

  • @davidd7397
    @davidd7397 2 года назад +5

    Nobody’s made this dudes videos mandatory to watch, lol.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      Hey David! Greetings! And thanks for watching. Do subscribe to this channel as there's more coming up. And let's share the collective experience so that we all get better in what we do!

  • @ridwandiazepam3443
    @ridwandiazepam3443 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your demonstration.. iam nurse from Indonesia..

  • @davidecappelli9961
    @davidecappelli9961 2 года назад +9

    Very interesting video! Sure the triple tourniquet technique is easy, cheap and very likely to be available in any setting. I have two questions pertaining this technique: 1) Compared to one tourniquet or the reverse Esmarck technique you previously described, is there a bigger risk of the vein breaking at puncture? 2) Though widely use in acute care settings, is bending the catheter prior to insertion 100% safe or could it cause a potentially dangerous damage to the outer cannula?

    • @qedder
      @qedder 2 года назад +1

      Can we get an input on number 2? Thanks

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +9

      Hi Davide and Gedder. Answers to the questions: #1) I do not know this - I am not aware of any data that would support my position on this. However, in my clinical experience of 3 decades, I have not observed the "vein breaking at the puncture". However, I have observed that a too slow advancement of the needle into the vein, when the veins are very distended with blood results in higher chance of hematoma. This is because the venous puncture is not sealed by quick insertion of the needle-catheter system. As such, I have adapted a technique of quickly advancing the needle through the skin and into the vein with any IV insertion. #2 I can confidently say that bending the needle-catheter system does NOT cause damage or breaking of the outer cannula. This is something that you can easily tested without IV canulas without patients - it is simply impossible. Greetigns and we will cover this in one of our future videos.

    • @qedder
      @qedder 2 года назад +4

      @@DRBLUESNYC thank you so much for your input. Your info for the first question is something for me to try out, trying to advance the catheter faster once flashback to reduce chances of hematoma.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +2

      @@qedder Indeed, once the needle tip enters the distended vien, the needle shaft/catheter must follow swiftly to prevent leakage from the punctured wall of the vein. Greetings

    • @davidecappelli9961
      @davidecappelli9961 2 года назад +1

      @@DRBLUESNYC Thank you! Your videos are amazing, can’t wait to see the next ones. 👋

  • @hilmiatic2785
    @hilmiatic2785 Год назад

    Thats look cook and usefull!
    But There is any thesis or evidence about triple tourniquet technique?

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  11 месяцев назад

      Hi Hilmi, thank you for showing your interest in this topic. For more information, Subscribe to Nysora's Compendium oF RA nysoralms.com/courses/nysora-compendium-of-regional-anesthesia/ and you can have a dedicated topic on "Triple tourniquet technique". This is the source used by NYSORA's students, fellows, and over 10,000 clinicians worldwide"

  • @jenniferjackson4379
    @jenniferjackson4379 2 года назад +2

    When you say bend the catheter, what exactly do you mean? I have never done that before

  • @meghanz9399
    @meghanz9399 Год назад

    Where can get that wide ternique?

  • @docterdad1
    @docterdad1 2 года назад +3

    Apply the BP cuff and inflate to half way between diastolic and systolic pressure to ensure arterial flow but no venous return…

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад +2

      Hi Docterdad! This is definitely a great technique. Thank you for the suggestion. Whatever the venous stasis function is available on automated blood pressure machines is most definitely the most convenient and advisable. Thank you and have a good day!

  • @torreejackson917
    @torreejackson917 2 года назад +27

    Do you have any tips for peripheral IV insertion on a patient with extreme pitting edema, without using US? I'm a new ER nurse and I've found this scenario the most difficult to tackle. I've tried this & BP cuffs on some pts and still had difficulty seeing & palpating veins when they are extremely edematous

    • @willispautz
      @willispautz 2 года назад +2

      This and when they have Aton of adipose tissue

    • @jasonfontelera6173
      @jasonfontelera6173 2 года назад +5

      Ultrasound

    • @sapphirarusli3891
      @sapphirarusli3891 2 года назад +14

      when i have patients with pitting oedema: i put pressure on their hand/where you normally want to cannulate, leave ur hand on it for 1-2 minutes, once u let go, you can see the vein. quickly clean and put the IV in. you just have to make sure your cannula itself is long enough to still be in the vein once the oedema is no longer pitting.

    • @carlosmontoya7021
      @carlosmontoya7021 2 года назад +3

      @@sapphirarusli3891 patients with severe pitting edema in the upper extrememeties many times have had lymph node removal in which case that particular arm should not be used for IVs or venipuncture, or BPs. If edema is cardiac, renal, or sepsis sourced, than a central line should already have been inserted. If edema is not too severe you can also elevate the arm. Use of a lamp angled tangentially to the arm may allow you to see "ripple" shadows of veins, especially if you gently rotate the arm to see arm topography better. Experiment on yourself and friends to see if you can find and or trace a vein. It's fun and educational.

    • @ahmetberk3305
      @ahmetberk3305 2 года назад +2

      Worst scenario you can use exteral jugular vein with grey or green iv cannula.

  • @Fnino42069
    @Fnino42069 Год назад +1

    i like ur glasses sir

  • @captknuckles9723
    @captknuckles9723 2 года назад +5

    At this point, use an ultrasound to start an IV or get a central line/midline. Even if you start an IV at these baby veins, they aren't viable and have inadequate flow. Stop ego IV insertions and get the right equipment.

    • @cherylpwestmoreland5439
      @cherylpwestmoreland5439 2 года назад +1

      And starting IVs around the “watchband” area increases risk for nerve damage which can be permanent. I absolutely loathe PIVs in flex points when there are other options along the hand and forearm OR if US is available by a proficient user. I am changing those sometimes before even 6 hours has passed.

    • @taylor3022
      @taylor3022 Год назад

      @@cherylpwestmoreland5439 yes hate IVs there!

    • @taylor3022
      @taylor3022 Год назад

      Yeah unsure why so many of his vids seem unwilling to go US. If I need 3 tourniquets, I very much doubt the stability of those veins that popped up! But I guess this is good in an emergency or when US equipment isn’t available! If this actually works, it has a place in clinical practice w low resources !

    • @williamflesher8705
      @williamflesher8705 Месяц назад

      Hi ​@@cherylpwestmoreland5439 sorry for the very late reply to this. I had always assumed that it would be the case, but do you have any evidence to support the nerve damage rate being higher? Thank you.

  • @marinicafroicu4720
    @marinicafroicu4720 Год назад +1

    Learn vascular anatomy exemplary, you will now exactly the veins position and practice more, because not always can use the tourniquet !!! Don’t keep stasis too long, can affect the blood test results, can affect the circulation , can create a big haematoma and swollen and many another causes… when the veins are collapsed, a tourniquet does not help either! Anatomy , practice and experience it’s the keys !

  • @TiredBrainCell
    @TiredBrainCell 2 года назад

    Use iv line as tourniquet.☆

  • @conorlinehan4434
    @conorlinehan4434 2 года назад +9

    I’m a nurse in a cticu, and have been purposely practicing placing IVs and am ultrasound trained. I have always done at least two turner kits, and have used three before. Never understood why people honestly thought this would “blow” a major vein.

    • @BJ-qj3bi
      @BJ-qj3bi 2 года назад +18

      What’s a turner kit

    • @DeDoopliss
      @DeDoopliss 2 года назад +1

      Tourniquet*

    • @ashtonduda9971
      @ashtonduda9971 2 года назад +10

      Paramedic here and in some older adults who have visible but extremely fragile veins/excess tissue I’ve actually gotten much more success without any tourniquet. They don’t tend to blow and a flush doesn’t provide any back pressure.

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    • @carlosmontoya7021
      @carlosmontoya7021 Год назад

      @@ashtonduda9971 Totally agree!

  • @mfadetoblack
    @mfadetoblack 2 года назад +4

    It's called a VCB = Venus Constricting Band, a tourniquet blocks all blood flow, including arterial. Semantics, I know, but I tell this to my students all the time.
    Personally, I have never had a need for this. The most I have done is the BP method mentioned below. But still useful info.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      That is great also. Thank you for sharing! B-safe!

  • @propofoldreams
    @propofoldreams 2 года назад +14

    Also ... Gravity ;)
    Let the limb/vein dangle freely well below heart level

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      Indeed. Must apply Tourniquet with the arm/hand below the heart level. Thank you

  • @Johnefe1
    @Johnefe1 Год назад +2

    Try to let fill 1 or 2 minutes ONLY in DIFFICULT patients. If you let the tourniquet with "normal" patients, high vein pressures maybe go toward fails because extravasations or bleeding.

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Dear Freddy, Thank you for sharing! Greetings!

  • @revieworr
    @revieworr Год назад

    I rarely see videos with hard viens to cannulate. Typcaly 80 - 90+ 10 comorbidities, no viens left, collapseing viens, all used up viens, veins the roll to easily and so on.

  • @iamdanilo4955
    @iamdanilo4955 Год назад

    Let me do it. I love doing it with 💯 perfect.

  • @joschtuegs2562
    @joschtuegs2562 2 года назад +12

    I’m in my ED placement right now, so having the tourniquet on for 1-2 minutes before canulating isn’t an options, as we also draw blood from the canula. Having the tourniquet on for that long messes up the potassium, so not really an option

    • @DesA-hj7ms
      @DesA-hj7ms Год назад +1

      Not really man

    • @jkmac901
      @jkmac901 Год назад

      I haven't had that issue.

  • @power4u977
    @power4u977 Год назад

    Stabilised the hand but didn’t stabilise the camera 😜 Just kidding. Thanks for the video. New thing learnt today!

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Noted! We really appreciate your feedback! Thank you!

  • @cabezon8705
    @cabezon8705 2 года назад +2

    Unfortunately at my hospital for some reason we have to get a doctor's order for us nurses to place a cold pack or warm pack...

    • @carlosmontoya7021
      @carlosmontoya7021 2 года назад

      A warm washcloth will have the same effect and requires no orders and can soothe a nervous patient. If that doesn't work sing them a lullibye...just better have a good voice.😅

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +1

      Wow. Not correct. You should open those doctors their eyes - top notch medical care start with nursing care. Nurses are highly trained medical professionals and should be allowed to be a lot more independent. THey certainly are, and super well respected for their independence, in our practice. Best regards

    • @MS-yu5cl
      @MS-yu5cl 2 года назад +1

      @@DRBLUESNYC very true. I work in a low resource setting and nurses have to be highly independent as long as we are practicing within the scope. We have to make it work with just the basics as we do not match up with other institutions in terms of technology as well as equipment and supplies.

    • @aaronreeder5753
      @aaronreeder5753 9 месяцев назад

      Just close the door and ask for forgiveness later. That is a retarded policy.

  • @sendiulo
    @sendiulo 2 года назад +5

    in my experience using relatively more alcohol also helps. or is this a bias? would you have any explanation for this effect?

    • @joseramoncabanas
      @joseramoncabanas 2 года назад +4

      The alcohol increases evaporation and vasodilatation of the vein, but it has lower antiseptic effects on the skin. It´s much better to apply chlorhexidine with an alcoholic solution.

    • @No-xh2cs
      @No-xh2cs 2 года назад +2

      @@joseramoncabanas I like using alcohol first then the chloraprep too. Seems like the alcohol itself has the most vasodilating properties

  • @itsomethingreat
    @itsomethingreat 7 месяцев назад

    Tourniquets should be applied proximally to distally.

  • @swoop155
    @swoop155 Год назад +4

    Next video by NYSORA:
    Difficult IVs with five tourniquet technique

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. We will definitely put this on our list. Greetings from NYSORA!

  • @NurseSeethal
    @NurseSeethal Год назад

    Should we do IV without a tourniquet in fragile veins?
    One of my colleagues told me.

    • @taylor3022
      @taylor3022 Год назад

      What is your understanding of fragile?

    • @NurseSeethal
      @NurseSeethal Год назад

      @@taylor3022
      Veins that easily get spastic

    • @taylor3022
      @taylor3022 Год назад

      @@NurseSeethal well a vein that spasms is an artery…so just don’t poke those at all. But there is a rule of thumb that when dealing with older people expecially when they have superficial veins, ones you can see very easily, and big bouncy veins you may want to avoid a tourniquet to avoid blowing the vein.

    • @NurseSeethal
      @NurseSeethal Год назад

      @@taylor3022 thanks for the info

    • @aaronreeder5753
      @aaronreeder5753 9 месяцев назад

      I like using a manual BP cuff for those veins. I lower the pressure as low as I can go to still access the veins. The lower pressure seems to help me a lot.

  • @prashantlomate2844
    @prashantlomate2844 2 года назад +2

    What is the added advantage of using 3 tourniquet over a single tourniquet?

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      Hi Prashant. No Tourniquet is perfect. THere is always leakage underneath, unless excessive tourniquet pressure is applied - which is not recommended. Therefore, adding a couple of more tourniques enhances the effect of the single tourniquet - more surface. Greetings.

  • @ekmickley
    @ekmickley Год назад

    What I find very challenging is the male arm with a ton of arm hair...I still cannot visualize as well...I request repeatedly that the arms be shaven before my arrival to the home, but they do not comply...ugh..Thanks so much for the video

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  Год назад

      Hi Wisdom Speaks! True, thank you for your comment and greetings from Nysora!

    • @aaronreeder5753
      @aaronreeder5753 9 месяцев назад

      Just bring a bic shaver and ask a tattoo artist how they shave arm hair.

  • @saltlifegull4091
    @saltlifegull4091 6 месяцев назад

    Dang right! Would rather have a natural childbirth than have multiple failed IV attempts! Going to tell these tips to other providers who try this and fail on me! The warming worked for me.

  • @alexbondarev8986
    @alexbondarev8986 2 года назад +4

    i use US.

  • @joy-joy1651
    @joy-joy1651 2 года назад

    👍👍👍

  • @DAWAHTIME1
    @DAWAHTIME1 2 года назад +1

    Could have edited it into 2 to 3mins.
    Helpful in watching

    • @nysoravideo
      @nysoravideo  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for your feedback!

  • @Malina4477
    @Malina4477 Год назад +1

    To tap directly on the sterilized area isnt the most preferable from a hygien perspective, right?
    (1 semester nurse student)
    Thanks for ur content!
    🤗

  • @pedro4lola640
    @pedro4lola640 Год назад

    Another thing the person did here was to sit down and make both them self and the patient comfortable and steady.

  • @drdecco1
    @drdecco1 2 года назад +3

    I wouldn’t be so sure that the theory behind triple tourniquets is science based - assuming the placement of the first one is at the correct pressure to stem venous flow then the other two are superfluous.

  • @alfaalex101
    @alfaalex101 Год назад

    I find the most useful technique is heat but those hot packs you “break” are damn near useless. I’ve used plastic bags filled with hot tap water wrapped in a pillow case and not only do I get 80-90% of my IVs like that, patient’s love them! Just DO NOT apply without some barrier/cloth between the bag and the patient’s skin.

  • @theseventh5204
    @theseventh5204 2 года назад +1

    I resort to guiding the so called trained people straight to the veins. They then hardly palpate and then proceed to jam the needle through the vein and it feels like into the bone. The initial bit of blood they get when piercing through the vein for some reason makes them push deeper?? I've just come back from an MRI without contrast because they couldn't get the cannula in as they went straight through the vein. Veins aren't deep! You need to be controlled, to palpate and feel the vein, to allow time for the veins to fill, to slowly guide the needle in until you get flashback then stop there/guide in the cannula. It's so simple yet so many 'professionals' can't do it. Every single patient had cannula issues in a ward on my recent hospital stay in the UK, alarms constantly going off from misplaced and faulty cannulas, the elderly recipients being butchered by uncaring/untrained nurses. It was horrific. Bless those who are watching videos like this to improve their technique. Also, the patient will feel if you're doing it wrong, listen to their winces. It should only ever be a light scratch at worst, otherwise its you that's the problem.

    • @nazarfayez
      @nazarfayez 2 года назад +1

      i fully agree with what you said but plenty of times patients over reacts to needles sometimes they start screaming even before i touch the skin with the needle and say to me it hurts be more gentle please. some of them still act as if they are in pain even after i remove the needle from the cannula

    • @nazarfayez
      @nazarfayez 2 года назад

      also some say that am really gentle others say am butchering them so the patients are not that good of a source of feedback on the technique

  • @valqueenofValhalla
    @valqueenofValhalla 2 года назад

    No pumping no fists anymore and no wrists

  • @benderbendingrodriguez5716
    @benderbendingrodriguez5716 2 года назад

    And if your patient is a drug addict without any periferal veins ?

    • @joshgleicher2700
      @joshgleicher2700 2 года назад

      I agree. Use US for anticubital or higher up.

    • @pamowen3452
      @pamowen3452 2 года назад

      Take even more time if not emergent

  • @sunilhardas5273
    @sunilhardas5273 Год назад

    Peripheral I.V. canulation is taken very casually due to over confidence.The assistant and the main procedurist must have patience and should not speak during the procedure.Also the height of the bed should be adjusted according to the procedurist's convenience.

  • @stephenharris2303
    @stephenharris2303 2 года назад +4

    A few things you need to change. Reusable tourniquets should not be used as they spread bacteria from patient to patient. If you want to touch the vein after skin antisepsis then you must wear sterile gloves. There is no antisepsis if you retouch what you just cleaned with non sterile gloves. Also dragging your Angio cath across the wristband is total contamination, as is laying it on the skin prior to advancing.

  • @cxh1225
    @cxh1225 Год назад

    I can hear the lab calling about hemolysis already. Get back in there and straight stick 'em nurse and step on it.

  • @hicksy72
    @hicksy72 Год назад

    Yeah… ultrasound

  • @bethstodieck18
    @bethstodieck18 4 месяца назад +1

    I don’t know where you’re practicing but our hierarchy would have a stroke if we started bending needles. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @dustin31238
    @dustin31238 8 месяцев назад

    Either you are born skillfull or you don't 😂😂😂

  • @texastrustedoralsurgeon6830
    @texastrustedoralsurgeon6830 2 года назад +2

    Triple tourniquet is a ridiculous notion. 3 is not better than one appropriately applied tourniquet. How could 3 tourniquets make any difference on blockage of venous return of blood, one tourniquet of light force, no warming, no exercise needed. I have over 30 years experience with IV access.. The person receiving the IV is the most important variable. When patients have a significant subcutaneous fat layer, in general, the IV access is more difficult, but not always.
    Some people will need Doppler visualization of the deeper tissues to identify peripheral veins, it’s not rocket science, it’s visualization first, palpation second, and luminal size third that creates the ideal IV access subject vein.

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад

      HI Wildbill! Thank you for sharing. Indeed, we all do things differently; in the end - it is what works 4 you. Thank you for watching and do subscribe to the channel - we have a lot more coming up soon; let's share the experience, learn from each other, and all get better at what we do. Cool that we have this medium now to collaborate without barriers. Greetings from NYSORA!

  • @iamdanilo4955
    @iamdanilo4955 Год назад

    You applied the tourniquet wrong

  • @chaddd6739
    @chaddd6739 Год назад

    Just sono the hard patients 🤷‍♂

  • @jalenpadilla7744
    @jalenpadilla7744 Год назад

    This video could have been 10 seconds long. Lol
    “3 tourniquets plus a little bit of warmth and a little bit of time will engorge the veinS a bit more. If you have trouble with the actual venipuncture, you won’t find any help in this video.”

  • @simardmg
    @simardmg Год назад

    I'm nurse in india all of these techniques are good but just not practical in low income setting healthcare
    Again all these fancy techniques fall shy in hands of experienced nurse who pricks 30-40 arms a day

  • @brycep5674
    @brycep5674 Год назад

    Why do health care professionals insist on maintaining techniques that are antiquated. Why would anyone attempt difficult access using a blind stick? Ultrasound allows visualization of the vessels during the cannulation process. Instead, we allow anesthetist and other clinicians to obtain access using a tiny catheter only to pass the problem on to the next person when that 22 or 24 Guage catheter goes bad (surprise!). Oh, don't ever place an IV on the inside of the wrist, it's just bad practice. Let's encourage each other to advance our practice, not maintain practices that have been evidence based to be poor.

    • @Peace-gi9lt
      @Peace-gi9lt Год назад

      You forget the home care nurse who does not have access to ultrasound. We have to use all the tips and tricks we can find even if some are antiquated

  • @styx4947
    @styx4947 2 года назад

    What about us I.V. drug abusers? Lol. I bet a lot of those 'likes' are people like me. Or for people in the "harm reduction" community

    • @cherylpwestmoreland5439
      @cherylpwestmoreland5439 2 года назад

      Hello… I am a Vascular Access Nurse and I assess every patient with my eyes and touch first while having a conversation about past history with IV access, good or bad. Based upon that initial assessment and conversation, I will either place the IV in a vessel I have found to be healthy and viable OR retrieve the US to visually assess what I have felt and determine if indeed that vessel is healthy enough to use. If so, I will use the US to actually place the line to increase success, decrease number of sticks, and use the correct device (short peripheral vs long peripheral) of the appropriate gauge. I do this for each patient and for patients known to me as difficult intravenous access (DIVA) I will go straight to US guided IVs or suggest the most appropriate device (Midline or central line). I hope that helped. 😉

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 2 года назад +1

    *data theft is the most common invasive procedure in medical settings. you crooks.* also, who would want to learn annulation from another dr, no offense...but come on. -JC

  • @samd8016
    @samd8016 2 года назад +11

    Really?? This s nice vein that i can cannulate with my eyes closed without a tourniquet. This is a joke. Can you show us how you do that on a really obese patient with dark skin?? Someone that you can not even visualize the vein??

    • @DRBLUESNYC
      @DRBLUESNYC 2 года назад +4

      Hi Sam. Indeed, those patients require more time and additional techniques, some of which we have described in other videos. However, the vein in this video were not visible/palpable before application of the 3-ple tourniquet. Greetings.

    • @Hardrockingamigo
      @Hardrockingamigo 2 года назад

      Its not applicable for everyone, but my hospital has an ultrasound machine. With the help of coworkers and youtube, I learned to access deep and difficult veins

    • @arocks1234567
      @arocks1234567 2 года назад

      makes for a difficult video

    • @RESophia
      @RESophia 2 года назад +1

      Skin color has nothing to do with finding veins. You must find veins by touch not by sight.

    • @samd8016
      @samd8016 2 года назад +1

      @@RESophia 99% of IVs placed are veins that you can not palpate. In emergency room or operating room. So you just read a textbook or someone taught you that and you are repeating it?

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  • @garypmmighton3324
    @garypmmighton3324 2 года назад +5

    Poor medical practice on a number of levels. Do better, use ultrasound!

    • @MS-yu5cl
      @MS-yu5cl 2 года назад

      What about institutions without this capability? I work in a low resource setting and we have to make it work with what we’ve got which is not much.

    • @cherylpwestmoreland5439
      @cherylpwestmoreland5439 2 года назад

      @@MS-yu5cl are you able to advocate for training from the company who supplies your IV products?

  • @aditiyadav6220
    @aditiyadav6220 8 месяцев назад

    Good

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