The Man Formula 1 BANNED For Life

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    Flavio Briatore, is now a man banned from F1 for life. He was part of winning 7 World Titles in total and one of the most charismatic characters in F1 history.
    This is his story of dealings with the Mafia, financial fraud, plenty of cheating and international disgrace.
    A young Briatore, born in rural Italy in 1950, didn’t inspire hope for his infamous future. He dropped out of multiple public schools before enrolling in private school. He didn't fare much better there, receiving the lowest grade in his year.
    I'm William Toet, I worked with Flavio Briatore at the Bennetton team…I worked there from 85 until 95…I started my first job there, honestly was as a model maker I wanted to get my toe in the door was then promoted to senior wind tunnel engineer and then head of aerodynamics.
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  • @Reaz399
    @Reaz399 2 года назад +3520

    The cheeky explanation of the “traction control“ got me, F1 engineers are simply insane.

    • @niklnik1008
      @niklnik1008 2 года назад +485

      the way he just raised his eyebrows when he said "to protect the engine"
      absolute gold

    • @ashkandi1337
      @ashkandi1337 2 года назад +105

      That was absolutely genious

    • @grempal
      @grempal 2 года назад +383

      That eyebrow raise at the end makes me think it was his idea and he's still proud of it decades later, for good reason.

    • @Reaz399
      @Reaz399 2 года назад +141

      @@grempal Well he certainly was involved in it I guess and I completely understand why he is so proud about it. Pretty big loophole that Bennetton managed to exploit here.

    • @flintstone1409
      @flintstone1409 2 года назад +97

      Thats really what I love about F1 engineering, the explanations how they do illegal things a legal way

  • @kelly2631
    @kelly2631 2 года назад +956

    Flavio really went full corporate mode in a sport full of engineers

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 2 года назад +48

      One of the reasons everyone in Italy hates him, even if basically no one knows about this

    • @Dave5843-d9m
      @Dave5843-d9m 2 года назад

      Engineers can cheat without actually cheating but 99% are too straight-laced to consider the idea.

    • @altruismfirst6489
      @altruismfirst6489 2 года назад +15

      not really he went full Napoleon Genius to find loop holes and do things in a creative way no other considered. He is a real rebel and Bad ass of the corporate world.

    • @pykamirulol
      @pykamirulol 2 года назад +4

      @@gardenwarrior77 Not correcting you here, but you say real life Vince McMahon like Vince isn't a corporate POS in real life too 😂

    • @LiftandCoa
      @LiftandCoa 10 месяцев назад +2

      Briatore is the most italian business man italy has ever seen.
      Just match the CV of Briatore and Arrivabene, they sound almost identical.@@Anankin12

  • @adambennet8398
    @adambennet8398 2 года назад +867

    Briatore had an interview a few years ago, where he stated that he felt he had no choice but to cheat in 2008 in order to stop Fernando leaving the team. There was a clause in his contract that meant he could leave the team (for Ferrari as that’s what was circulating on the rumour mill) should he not win a race in 2008. Time was running out, and Singapore was a new race, so much easier to disguise an intentional crash. Behold, crashgate.
    Just irony that Alonso won completely fairly in Fuji 2 weeks later 😂

    • @mick8473
      @mick8473 2 года назад +11

      There was a second safety car at Singapore but the faster cars (Hamilton in one) couldn't catch him.

    • @Johnno558
      @Johnno558 2 года назад +26

      And ruined a young man’s career🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @charlesfaure1189
      @charlesfaure1189 2 года назад +53

      "I had no choice to cheat if I was going to get what I wanted." Ah, sociopathy.

    • @ahmettarkkaya2915
      @ahmettarkkaya2915 2 года назад +1

      Can you point to the interview? Cause, as far as I know, he never accepted being involved in the Crashgate

    • @Games_and_Music
      @Games_and_Music 2 года назад +12

      @@user-cw2nl8jr7h Why would you hate the game if it's the players that cheat?
      That argument never made sense to me, speaking of logic.

  • @cars_and_coffee_by_bruno
    @cars_and_coffee_by_bruno 2 года назад +110

    Please do a full interview with that guy who talked about the traction control. He is extremely knowledgeable and explained it very clearly while still being technical

  • @bertram-raven
    @bertram-raven 2 года назад +458

    I met Briatore in Indianapolis at the hotel where most of the teams were staying during the weekend of the infamous 2005 Grand Prix. As you say he is a very charismatic character. You may even say he is a prime example of why some people are able to pull success out of the air through nothing but charisma.
    On the same night, after qualifying, I saw an obviously very drunk Kimi Räikkönen staggering through the hotel lobby with a minder doing his best to keep Kimi going in a straight line. This was the point when for me it was confirmed the race was going to be a bit odd.

    • @jameschang5375
      @jameschang5375 2 года назад +52

      When even Kimi gets so drunk it makes ppl feel off, yeah something's definitely going on.

    • @Martinec1998
      @Martinec1998 2 года назад +29

      @@jameschang5375 in his book Kimi even admitted that he had a hangover during practice in 2007/8.

    • @deezhole
      @deezhole 2 года назад +3

      Thanks for sharing this story. I found it interesting. 👍🏻

    • @googlreviews7813
      @googlreviews7813 2 года назад +14

      ​@@jameschang5375
      Not really, itvwas well documented that he was an alcoholic and had serious addiction issues. His personality was partially derived from alcohol abuse.

    • @jameschang5375
      @jameschang5375 2 года назад +18

      @@googlreviews7813 I was meaning if even that Kimi, the drinking monster Kimi, gets so wasted before a race it makes ppl feel unnatural……lol

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 2 года назад +946

    I did not know Piquet literally practiced the crash...unbelievable :D.

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania 2 года назад

      those two are peas in a pod

    • @juancete0107
      @juancete0107 2 года назад +31

      Me neither 💀

    • @pipotron1637
      @pipotron1637 2 года назад +126

      A comedians familly.
      His sister is currently faking a relationship with Verstapen.

    • @bonifacelukosi9580
      @bonifacelukosi9580 2 года назад +51

      @@pipotron1637 And the dad has lost the plot.

    • @gabrieloliveirasantos3226
      @gabrieloliveirasantos3226 2 года назад +62

      As a Brazilian I say, Family Pique has dubious ethics

  • @karlj1717
    @karlj1717 2 года назад +278

    I love the loop holes the teams manage to find, just shows how clever the engineers are.

    • @brianvogt8125
      @brianvogt8125 2 года назад +12

      A loophole is an opportunity to invent new technology. Let's see what else we can use that technology or mode of thinking for.

    • @cobar5342
      @cobar5342 2 года назад +5

      'Every team cheats' is an old adage - pretty true in my observations

    • @denisjovanovic7781
      @denisjovanovic7781 2 года назад +10

      How about the loop holes that haven't been discovered? The ones you never hear about? They're the ones that are clever.

    • @Games_and_Music
      @Games_and_Music 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, initially i'd like every team to stick to the rules, to the law.
      But, then he goes on about the spirit of the sport, that it lacks spirit nowadays, which sounds like a good point.
      Although, i have to say, there have been plenty of cases in the recent years where the rules and its interpretations have differed from each other, so i do think that there's still "spirit" in the sports, to much chagrin of many fans out there, including me sometimes.
      For example the budget cap, or the flexible wings, or Ferrari's fuel flow thing, although some of those are just flat out cheating.
      But a lot of the cases where they cheated were also not specifically innovative, removing a filter from a hose, "blind" traction control, race fixing etc., those didn't quite bring any breakthrough technologies with them, so i can't quite side with commenters here saying that the loop holes are likely to bring innovative technology, but rather innovative ways of avoiding the "real" rules.
      But, somewhere, in a way, it is kinda endearing to see them try so hard for a win, that they overdo it and cheat, or... get very spirited.
      Even though i am against it, and it should be punished, but that picture of Flavio and Alonso together at the end (23:00) just kinda put a smirk on my face, dirty rascals, haha.
      Formula 1 has always had this dubious air of questionability around it, Flavio might be the personification of that.

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, and Mr Newey is good at that which is why The Thai who owns 51% of Red Bull should be kicking out Whinger Spice to keep him!

  • @pxl4603
    @pxl4603 2 года назад +919

    this was a brilliant vid... piquet's precision in his practice for the crash is insane just shows how skilled f1 drivers are.

    • @A-BYTE94
      @A-BYTE94 2 года назад +8

      Yea

    • @sk4tec
      @sk4tec 2 года назад +71

      It really tanked his career though. I felt it was a career suicide in motorsport

    • @philipjamesparsons
      @philipjamesparsons 2 года назад +64

      Pat Symonds, said it was Piquet Jr, who suggested the idea to save his career. Flav, liked the plan and Pat, made the mistake of going along with it. I wonder why Flav, fired Piquet, though, should have kept him to buy his silence. He was quite good.

    • @mchalo188
      @mchalo188 2 года назад +12

      you'd be surprised how often this happens even today

    • @03056932
      @03056932 2 года назад +20

      @@mchalo188 I think most seasoned fans know exactly what red bull did in Abu Dhabi

  • @ticoss
    @ticoss 2 года назад +310

    Great video.
    About the last part of the video: Briatore is still in formula one: he's an advisor for the commercial parts of F1 and still work for F1 commodities, organization of parties, celebrations etc.
    Never forget that the Singapore crash was not organized alone: Pat Symonds was involved, and obviously is still here too...

    • @Thiago100Zwetsch
      @Thiago100Zwetsch 2 года назад +55

      Also was Fernando Alonso and he's still beloved by half of the world.

    • @ticoss
      @ticoss 2 года назад +26

      @@Thiago100Zwetsch You are right. For me there's a simple explanation: they are exceptional people, despite all their faults, otherwise they would really not be here anymore

    • @DaFinkingOrk
      @DaFinkingOrk 2 года назад +36

      @@ticoss Fernando is so well liked partly because we all love the cheeky bad-but-not-too-bad guy since a bit of controversy and drama is entertaining. As long as it doesn't go too far and ruin the fun of course, and that's what he represents I think.

    • @ticoss
      @ticoss 2 года назад +11

      ​@@DaFinkingOrk I'm ok with You.
      Alonso is for me like an F1 God. He has an incredible talent, and he still performs "like a Lion". But he is also detestable sometimes, breaks the atmosphere in all the teams in which he worked etc.
      His bank account is well-filled, but because of his character, I think he missed some world championship titles.

    • @Astronurd
      @Astronurd 2 года назад

      @@ticoss I personally think he’s a moaning little w4nker

  • @sadsismint
    @sadsismint 2 года назад +96

    The interview with Willem Toet was brilliant, more of him please!

  • @blxtothis
    @blxtothis 2 года назад +167

    I always thought this geezer was well dodgy but his history made him a perfect fit in Formula One, a world in which criminals, liars, cheats and ne’er-do-wells seem to blend in amongst the dedicated and hard working majority.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 года назад +1

      Van Rossem Onyx-Moneytron comes to mind. Guy was billionaire, but Moneytron was a Ponzi scheme. He conned rich idiots (he picked out those who didn't earn anything, but were rich through inheritance) out of their fortunes by telling he had invented a computer-algorithm that could predict the stock exchange.
      Then he bought aa F1 team because he liked playing with fast cars. When the gig was up, he threw a bunch of money into politics to get a seat in parlement and thus get immunity. When he failed to relected it was jailtime though. But most of the money was "gone" by then.

    • @oldmanc2
      @oldmanc2 2 года назад +5

      Good post. F1 Engineers are totally professional- I've met a few and I was struck by their dedication

    • @bingybingy2592
      @bingybingy2592 2 года назад +2

      @@oldmanc2 But, no loyalty

    • @c3bam1
      @c3bam1 2 года назад +2

      Karen Horner where are you??

    • @davidrice3337
      @davidrice3337 2 года назад

      sounds like the Dems and the Republicans -

  • @s87-d7d
    @s87-d7d 2 года назад +147

    you should invite Sir Willem Toet to contribute to videos again and again,I can listen him for hours :)
    I wish he was my teacher at school

    • @flintstone1409
      @flintstone1409 2 года назад +10

      I think I never watch some part of any video that carefully. Great story, and I'm sure he has some more amazing things to tell!

  • @sparqqling
    @sparqqling 2 года назад +30

    This one is great with Toet. There is also a story from Kees van der Grint (Bridgestone at Ferrari during the MS days) where they triggered launch control based on the false start detection loops in the tarmac. Those loops in the tarmac measured the movement of the cars to detect a false start. The engineers figured out the signal on the loops was switched off when the light turned green, so they picked that up and launched the car.

  • @Reachrahulrambo
    @Reachrahulrambo 2 года назад +82

    Please keep making these in depth videos!
    I was 12 when I first started watching F1 in 2004, I remember how Alonso and Flavio used to celebrate victories. I didn't understand most of what happened back then. Your video has made me revisit those memories but this time I could comprehend what had happened back then ❤️

    • @samsonojeagbase9980
      @samsonojeagbase9980 2 года назад +4

      I started watching f1 because of Alonso in 2005 and I relate with the celebrations too . . . I hope you are doing great!

  • @roadrunner6224
    @roadrunner6224 2 года назад +406

    The thing that Flavio is most likely behind the Piastri mess makes his story even greater.

    • @DaFinkingOrk
      @DaFinkingOrk 2 года назад +194

      It's hilarious how the usual suspects Flavio and Alonso are involved in that too.

    • @shitoryu8
      @shitoryu8 2 года назад +14

      Lmao

    • @sairamr6886
      @sairamr6886 2 года назад +6

      What the.. Flavio didn't even leave our this modern gen F1

    • @crazycjk
      @crazycjk 2 года назад +57

      And don't forget that Mark Webber is Piastri's manager, and he used to be managed by Briatore as well as being good friends with Fernando!

    • @mick8473
      @mick8473 2 года назад +9

      Dont forget Prost who was treated badly by Alpine, could have been pulling the main strings,

  • @VincentParisien
    @VincentParisien 2 года назад +31

    I've been a pit marshal for many years for the Montreal F1 and I remember asking Flavio to put out his cigarette on pit wall... I did not have much success and looking at his life "achievements", I assume there would have been little I could have done to make him follow this "simple" rule. The partying through the night with the Benetton mechanics "on their tab" was a found memory of those times gone.

    • @2Fast4Mellow
      @2Fast4Mellow 2 года назад +2

      You could have given him a Gatorade shower or empty your fire extinguisher in his citing the safety hazard ;-)

    • @dipling.pitzler7650
      @dipling.pitzler7650 2 года назад +8

      I salute you for not being intimidated by an arrogant king, which very well goes with the bold history of French people!

    • @alexgasparini4548
      @alexgasparini4548 2 года назад +2

      @@dipling.pitzler7650 but he is italian xD

    • @alexgasparini4548
      @alexgasparini4548 2 года назад +3

      @Peter Angles ???? He is Italian and that is a fact XD. I am Italian and this is an Italian name, even more ancient than most common names, you can track this name back to ancient Rome, for instance the Colosseum real name is: amphitheatrum Flavium literally anfiteatro Flavio and Flavium was a name used even by Roman emperators.
      Maybe it could be sound french to you, but for me as an Italian it sounds very Italian, Flavio is really similar to other Italian names like, Carlo, Claudio, Matteo, Paolo. I guess its the ending O that tricks you into thinking it sounds french.
      The surname Briatore doesn't sounds french to me tbh.
      Funny enough my surname sounds more french than Briatore, but i can assure you it is very Italian.

    • @MentalParadox
      @MentalParadox 2 года назад +1

      @Peter Angles ...what? That's not a French name

  • @joeofoysterbay7197
    @joeofoysterbay7197 2 года назад +246

    How is there not a Flavio movie? More of this for sure! Good stuff. Thanks!

    • @ighsaanlenders942
      @ighsaanlenders942 2 года назад +10

      Coming to Netflix soon 🤣🤣🤣

    • @gherbo1609
      @gherbo1609 2 года назад +12

      he would sue. i would love to see that though, hes created so many legends 14

    • @Retr0_Blues
      @Retr0_Blues 2 года назад +2

      exhausted medium

    • @pablofernandez2335
      @pablofernandez2335 2 года назад +2

      Imagine if Drive To Survive started back in 2005 just after Ferrari's dominance and the beginning of Briatore and Alonso's adventures

    • @ereder1476
      @ereder1476 2 года назад

      they should make a "Prost vs Senna" movie

  • @sullybiker6520
    @sullybiker6520 2 года назад +15

    I read Toet's description of their Traction loophole on his LinkedIn essay. It's not actually traction control though. It's more like 3D throttle mapping, which a few years later they were all doing (supposedly Ferrari were using this at Magny Cours in 1997, or I should say were first accused of doing something analogous to TC). It does not use wheel speed as an input, and relies on being able to build an accurate model of traction. Red Bull got into hot water for exotic maps around the end of the EBD era. So this isn't unusual....

  • @Mohammed-qp7xw
    @Mohammed-qp7xw 2 года назад +608

    *Banned for life*
    Currently Fernando’s manager and regularly attend F1 races. Also hanging out F1 boss.

    • @hjorte.
      @hjorte. 2 года назад +7

      🤣

    • @Aggnog
      @Aggnog 2 года назад +81

      Say you didn't watch the video without saying it.

    • @ToniElMatador
      @ToniElMatador 2 года назад +109

      @@Aggnog Hes just pointing out how misleading the videotitle is

    • @Thiago100Zwetsch
      @Thiago100Zwetsch 2 года назад +14

      @@ToniElMatador I was about to say the same as the clickbait suggests that Briatore is banned for good, which is not, BTW!

    • @Aggnog
      @Aggnog 2 года назад +58

      @@ToniElMatador Its not misleading, if someone gets a life sentence in prison then gets released afterwards he still got a life sentence.

  • @Jabberstax
    @Jabberstax Год назад +25

    I miss the F1 of the 80s and 90s. It's was far more fun and wild than today's tournament.

  • @tesfahunkebede208
    @tesfahunkebede208 2 года назад +49

    We need longer video formats like this ❤

  • @paulburchell1762
    @paulburchell1762 7 месяцев назад +1

    The engineering and technical savy in F1 is mind-blowing

  • @MrReniks
    @MrReniks 2 года назад +49

    wow,just just love to hear more under the sheet stories about team backgrounds. I know your channels is more about technical and driving explanations but this episode was an epic history lesson about F1 paddock history!

    • @CptChaosNL1984
      @CptChaosNL1984 2 года назад +4

      A video about the more recent Ferrari engine debacle would be amazing too. Altough we never know the outcome of the verdict from the FIA.

  • @adamkhan5274
    @adamkhan5274 2 года назад +17

    He was my manager and team boss in 2008/9. Top bloke. He would have done anything to win. He knew the responsability he had not just to himself but all the employees. Crashgate was not about Fernando but about ING our primary sponsor at the time. There was a clause if we won that would trigger a clause meaning they would have to continue the following season. He was trying to protect the team and everyones jobs. He was a good boss. Tough but fair.

    • @Samura1gamer
      @Samura1gamer 2 года назад +2

      all you wrote sums up to : he did it for the money
      'tough but fair' is the most unfair thing to say for someone who cheats

    • @arkay5004
      @arkay5004 2 года назад

      Why'd you leave racing mate?

    • @Connacht89
      @Connacht89 2 года назад +1

      Wait, cheating (and putting a driver's life at risk with a staged crash) is, in your opinion, "tough but fair", then?

    • @angrydoggy9170
      @angrydoggy9170 Год назад

      So cheating is fair to you? I pity everyone in your live.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield 10 месяцев назад +1

      Wow, people really would do anything for money and fame.

  • @xSilverScreenx
    @xSilverScreenx 2 года назад +10

    I remember seeing him on tv but never understood why he left. I was too young to understand, glad you made this video.

  • @rupertpupkin9630
    @rupertpupkin9630 2 года назад +15

    Had heard the explanation for this form of traction control years back, it isn't necessarily new insight. It was genius sure... But Benetton were clearly pushing the limits (overstepping them sometimes?) on many things. This is a great video, well done! Flavio was and is a true character, a true hustler and very charismatic. He had a real talent for the commercial side of F1 and many other business interests.
    Hopefully you continue with such in depth videos. Another I'd love to hear more about from that era is the BAR project/team involving Craig Pollock, Adrian Reynard and Jacques Villeneuve. I feel there is so much to that story that we know little about. The fact that it eventually turned into Mercedes - with the same base/factory and even people from the early BAR days - is quite the journey.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @banmadabon
      @banmadabon Год назад

      He was a fugitive criminal... He was in charge from the mafia to bring in rich chickens in their casinos where they were plucked. Obviously cheating...
      The poster boy of Italian bad stereotypes...

  • @LeicaFleury
    @LeicaFleury 2 года назад +31

    This must be the best video Driver61 has ever uploaded.

    • @Willjam
      @Willjam 2 года назад

      And at the same time, a very sad one. I remember over 20 years ago hearing how Briatore effectively killed Senna, by cheating and forcing Williams to push beyond the limit to try and catch up. I understand much better exactly how they achieved this now. Obviously an accident is an accident, but looking back, it's fair to say that if Benetton hadn't had traction control, Senna would be alive today.

  • @jesseemullen
    @jesseemullen Год назад +4

    Not only is Willem Toet a genius, but he seems like a really nice guy too. I appreciate all of his insights into the world of F1 technology.

  • @realnutteruk1
    @realnutteruk1 2 года назад +11

    I remember the "Ignited Colours of Benetton" headlines when Jos's car went up... so scary!

    • @Redskies453
      @Redskies453 2 года назад +1

      Ha! Haven't heard that one.

  • @admiralbenbow5083
    @admiralbenbow5083 2 года назад +2

    I used to bump into Flavio at a health club in SW London in the 90s. He would wear a very ordinary grey towel tracksuit and he looked as if he smoked a lot. I used to talk to him in the changing room and the sauna sometimes, but I never saw him in the gym. Maybe he played tennis or did classes? I never did work that one out. He used to have a big shiny chauffeured Rolls waiting for him outside the door at home time.

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 2 года назад +27

    16:33 That is why it's only down to the FIA to write the rules so that teams have to adhere to the "spirit" of the regulation. If a team found a loophole, it's on FIA for not anticipating all circumstances and nobody should blame the team. Flexy wings, DAS system, rear wing end plate, you name it.

    • @emptiester
      @emptiester Год назад +1

      It doesn't really work that way. Two things happen. You follow rhe rules. Its required to win. Second, you weaponize the rules against your opponent. "The map is not the terrain". Its implausible to regulate the spirit. Its just not.

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 Год назад

      @@emptiester Well no, rules are written because there is an ideal scenario in the writer's mind, which we call the spirit of the rule. And it's up to the governing body to come up with the rules such that people adhering to the rules are acting like what they are supposed to. If there is no spirit in the first place, there is no point regulating at all. You just got it all wrong and thinking you can answer the egg and chicken question without the acknowledgement of cell.

    • @emptiester
      @emptiester Год назад +1

      @@jkliao6486 okie dokie. Go ahead and write a rule that people cant subvert. What youll end up with is a system of arbitrary enforcement. It simply cannot exist the way youre idealizing it.

    • @robertolyra
      @robertolyra Месяц назад

      Remember that before 1994 the best team was Willians. Suddenly the regulations changed and coincidentally the best team after that changes was Benetton.

  • @mattjagger4360
    @mattjagger4360 2 года назад +7

    Oh man. The 80's and 90's ❤️ if only we could go back. Flavio was the F1 Wolf of Wall Street

  • @MustafaKhan-hz5mr
    @MustafaKhan-hz5mr 2 года назад +11

    that traction control mechanism was absolutely genius

  • @LgnSknks541
    @LgnSknks541 2 года назад +11

    If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'. I appreciate the findings of gray areas of rules.

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 года назад +3

      Meaning that Flavio himself pretty much had done what Smokey Yunick did in NASCAR, right?

    • @LgnSknks541
      @LgnSknks541 2 года назад +2

      @@crimcrusader8459 No joke, I almost said something about Smokey Yunick or Ray Evernham in my comment. 😆 So, you got EXACTLY what I was going for. 👍

  • @tiagodumont4422
    @tiagodumont4422 2 года назад +91

    I really wish I was born with a conscience like this man and not care for anyone or any consequences in the pursuit of getting what I want. I truly wish I did.

    • @Anonymouseys
      @Anonymouseys 2 года назад +34

      But you were born as a good dude instead

    • @laloaguirre9847
      @laloaguirre9847 2 года назад +15

      You also need balls and the genius this guy has

    • @Editor_Hound
      @Editor_Hound 2 года назад

      No need to, rejoice that you're a decent human being, and not a scum of the Earth.

    • @duomaxwell5807
      @duomaxwell5807 2 года назад +1

      That's how the rich got rich

    • @marconius101
      @marconius101 2 года назад

      @@Anonymouseys I bet Flavio would say the same....

  • @JOKBO1
    @JOKBO1 2 года назад +14

    Loved the video! Keep making these please.
    As a new F1 fan(yes, yes, DTS got me here) diving deep into the history and technology of F1 has been awesome.

  • @chrisccc22
    @chrisccc22 2 года назад +42

    We met him in a restaurant in 1995 in Montreal during the GP weekend. He sent us over a bottle of wine. We played him big time for it. Long story but very funny.

    • @goncalo33
      @goncalo33 2 года назад +6

      What's the story?

    • @SlowSessions
      @SlowSessions 2 года назад +7

      Yeah, what's the story man?

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 Год назад

      I met him in a bar and he payed me a bottle of beer. We talked all night.

    • @chrisccc22
      @chrisccc22 Год назад

      @@arride4590 Yes he's a good sport for sure.

  • @MaximusOwen1
    @MaximusOwen1 2 года назад +31

    From what I’ve read about Tom Walkinshaw, it sounds like he was the perfect foil for Briatore, and was the driving force in a lot of the 1994 shenanigans.
    If anyone has read Damon Hill’s book, he wasn’t a fan of his either!

    • @philipjamesparsons
      @philipjamesparsons 2 года назад +8

      Big Tom, had a reputation for being very creative in his cheating prior to F1. He was not the only one of course. I always remember Tom and Joan Villadelprat, arguing the toss with the stewards, on camera, when Schumi, got black flagged at Silverstone.

    • @mick8473
      @mick8473 2 года назад +1

      @@philipjamesparsons Black flags are quite hard to argue!

  • @mathias16valentim
    @mathias16valentim 2 года назад +3

    i once got to meet nelson piquet jr and had a chat with him.
    i asked him about the whole incident and why he had accepted doing that.
    he told me "if i didnt accept it, bad things would happen" i think it was something like getting kicked out from his renault seat immediately after rejecting and no longer being able to go back to f1, which would be bad because that was one of his only opportunities of getting known at the motorsport scene

  • @veronicaferraro9556
    @veronicaferraro9556 2 года назад +4

    Flavio is not the only on here.
    even currently within all F1 teams the tricks are played. Mercedes, RB are not excused.
    not to mention many stories of Ferrari and McLaren.
    Flavio brought us some of the greatest People in F1

  • @ExtraSqueaky
    @ExtraSqueaky 2 года назад +41

    Benneton's case of introducing traction control, that is no traction control in name, is no exception. All the F1 teams then and now are bending the rules as far as they can, and see if they can get away with it.

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting Год назад +2

      Flavio was just like Gordon Murray and Colin Chapman in the way that he would go out of his way to exploit the rules. He wasn't a designer, but he didn't need to be.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Год назад +1

      The fact that F1 even has such obnoxious rules on cars is enough of a reason to cheat.
      Just let the engineers make the fastest car they. Infinite horsepower, fuel and downforce, no safety features.

    • @bloodyhell8201
      @bloodyhell8201 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@JoshSweetvaleeasy to say when youre not the one getting toasted in em like lauda
      You go drive a deathtrap in your own leisure time lmao

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@bloodyhell8201 Oh I'm sorry, I thought we'd be watching _contests of skill,_ taking risks comes with the job.

    • @rarelycold6618
      @rarelycold6618 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@bloodyhell8201I doubt anyone held a gun to his head

  • @xXPAKSLAYERXx
    @xXPAKSLAYERXx 2 года назад +15

    Piquet's crash practice was smooth tho. The finest driving he's ever performed.

  • @Alexander27463
    @Alexander27463 2 года назад +11

    Wow, the traction control loophole is so extremely clever. Just wow

    • @ivicamajmunskikreten9714
      @ivicamajmunskikreten9714 2 года назад

      yes clever, but nothing exceptionally special. take a look at group b engineering workarounds.

    • @Jamo_7811
      @Jamo_7811 Год назад

      ⁠@@ivicamajmunskikreten9714There was some great engineering in Group B, such as 4WD, engine placement, weight distribution and various forced induction systems. However I have never heard about the loopholes exploited. Can you explain some or direct me to where I can find it?

  • @mk_annan22
    @mk_annan22 4 месяца назад +1

    William Toet is the STEM teacher we all wanted.
    Bending rules and exploiting loopholes is the feature of F1 teams.
    But, the way Flavio Briatore lead F1 teams,
    I guess shadiness= likeliness of winning F1 titles.....

  • @RC404
    @RC404 2 года назад +9

    Where there is controversy there is always Alonso's name somewhere in the mix😂😂

  • @nickkotsoglou7478
    @nickkotsoglou7478 2 года назад +1

    Back then many teams were doing “dodgy” modifications trying to find loopholes around the regulations, there was a lot of secrecy, suspicion and also espionage between them, major teams were playing the same game. This video probably confirms the Briatore was one of the best and a winner in his era in his job, although he might not have been nice as a person to a lot of people

  • @atharvadate7345
    @atharvadate7345 7 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting timing for recommending this video RUclips.

  • @MichaelWegrzyniak
    @MichaelWegrzyniak 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for putting this together. This was a fantastic retrospective of Flavio and I was enthralled from start to finish. Looking for to the next video in this series.

  • @Maartenkruger324
    @Maartenkruger324 7 месяцев назад +88

    Correction: Banned till 2024.

    • @RichardMcLaren
      @RichardMcLaren 7 месяцев назад +2

      Earlier than that I think. Both he and Pat Symonds had their bans overturned by a court iirc

    • @AndyFromBeaverton
      @AndyFromBeaverton 7 месяцев назад +1

      When life is only 15 years. It sounds like the prison system.

    • @vipul_singh
      @vipul_singh 7 месяцев назад

      He was banned for life*

    • @Maartenkruger324
      @Maartenkruger324 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@vipul_singh Well he's not banned any more

    • @vipul_singh
      @vipul_singh 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Maartenkruger324 Hence the '*' ;)

  • @Timinime
    @Timinime 2 года назад +68

    Hold on, after years of speculation, Toet just confirmed that Schmacher / Benetton were using traction control (albeit he thinks there was a loophole). This feels like huge news.

    • @mosca3289
      @mosca3289 2 года назад +29

      Right, I’ve heard that accusation many times in the past. This is first time I’ve heard an admission and methodology.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 2 года назад

      Its been known about for years. The fia ran a pretty thorough investigwtion at the time.
      They all should have been banned. Schumacher, all of them

    • @philspencelayh5464
      @philspencelayh5464 2 года назад

      Schumacher was never bothered how he won, a bit of technical trickery would be nothing to someone happy to deliberately crash into people whilst being televised.

    • @estelombo
      @estelombo 2 года назад +5

      So.....was Schumachers team mate not also using traction control?? Who was his teammate 🤔

    • @Joysho
      @Joysho 2 года назад +21

      @@estelombo Jos verstappen. It is shown in the video. And it is speculated that only Michael's car had it. But maybe Jos had it too, he wasn't a really good driver anyway😂

  • @robtilborghs1909
    @robtilborghs1909 2 года назад +4

    Love the story about Benneton and Flavio Briatory. 👍🏼 Good job Driver61

  • @BarbaricAvatar
    @BarbaricAvatar 2 года назад +2

    I've never before seen the footage of Piquet practicing the spin on the warm-up lap. Great find!

  • @paulnewman2778
    @paulnewman2778 2 года назад +6

    The brilliance of F1 engineers is unsurpassed

  • @paulburchell1762
    @paulburchell1762 7 месяцев назад +1

    Willem Toet is fantastic.....explained traction control so even I understood😅

  • @alexsaucedo4930
    @alexsaucedo4930 2 года назад +4

    I love these longer format F1 history stories.

  • @alpine1600s
    @alpine1600s 2 года назад +15

    Men like Flavio show how gutless the officials can be.

    • @huzcer
      @huzcer 2 года назад

      F1 is always plagued with cheating to this day.

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 2 года назад +1

      They always are.

  • @KL50450
    @KL50450 2 года назад +5

    Great video! And, I believe, the first that demonstrates the traction control issue in 1994. Flavio certainly added colour to F1 in the earlier days. However, it’s disappointing that FOM, considering the current focus on compliance all over the world, got this rascal back in the sport.

    • @speedmann194
      @speedmann194 2 года назад

      No TC 94 Michaels teammates only scored 11 points altogether. If they did have it wouldn't it make more sense to have on weaker drivers cars chase the constructors?
      Further proof there was no electronics aid was first season with poor handling unreliable Ferrari f310 he beat benneton. Whilst his teammate was struggling to hold off Jordans. So did Ferrari have illegal software as-well? I think it's obvious Michael was the special software

  • @DavidVercettiMovies
    @DavidVercettiMovies 2 года назад +2

    I saw him inside F1 paddocks last week on TV. Gave me chills.

  • @borisgalos6967
    @borisgalos6967 2 года назад +21

    Oddly, and I'm sure it must be coincidental, Ferrari had some "interesting" wins after bringing in the Benetton people.

  • @atlasfenix6995
    @atlasfenix6995 2 года назад +5

    Alonsos best pal, he is even his manager till today.

  • @markifi
    @markifi 2 года назад +5

    Mr. Toet seems like an excellent interviewee

  • @VipulKrishna25
    @VipulKrishna25 2 года назад +4

    Make more of these videos man. I enjoyed watching and learnt a bit today.

  • @k-panga
    @k-panga 2 года назад +17

    Amazing video, please concider making more of this long format videos!

  • @JohnathanDafoe69420
    @JohnathanDafoe69420 10 месяцев назад

    16:12 That raise lmao 😅

  • @pietrobonfy0619
    @pietrobonfy0619 2 года назад +6

    “Tribula” doesn’t mean that. It’s more like “a guy that makes his parents struggle”

  • @henrybecquerelryuichinakan960
    @henrybecquerelryuichinakan960 2 года назад

    Honestly, this is top 3 videos of F1 stories I've ever seen. Huge congrats for that high quality research and information!!!

  • @nightcrawleroriginal
    @nightcrawleroriginal 2 года назад +3

    Of course they used Traction Control when their hand was caught in the cookie jar with that "Hidden File" found by investigators, they certainly didn't admit to it prior to that, Both Hill/Senna questioned Schumacher's car with super natural abilities. Once I found that out, the luster of F1 really dropped for myself (personally) and I didn't pay much attention to it from that point on, the occasional glance then moved on to something else. Great break-down D61 and very informative, thanks.

  • @jimijo1440
    @jimijo1440 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well that ban for life aged like fine milk, since Briatore is returning to the sport as Alpines executive advisor.

  • @jamsbong
    @jamsbong 2 года назад +23

    Normally, I expect myself to hate someone who cheats. However, the way Briatore did it is just so brilliant and he got caught for a few things. Who knows what else did he do that wasn't caught? This guy is a genius.

    • @sternschnupper
      @sternschnupper 2 года назад +1

      you might want to look into what Cesare Fiorio did with the lancia team back then in group b - glorious stories! :D

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 7 месяцев назад

    He isn’t banned as I previously noted and now he’s back. Briatore is super talented. Had he been born wealthy or just had some decent capital, he would have made a lot of money. But he had to it the hard way.

  • @NickG40
    @NickG40 2 года назад +12

    He was only banned for a year, after getting it overturned in January of 2010.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield 10 месяцев назад +1

      Of course. Eccestone loves him.

  • @Lukeywoodsey
    @Lukeywoodsey 2 года назад +1

    Hearing the Benitton engineer talk was so insightful and interesting

  • @gandalf_thegrey
    @gandalf_thegrey 2 года назад +15

    FOM: *If you can't beat him, invite him to make money for you*

    • @Adjudicator1
      @Adjudicator1 2 года назад +2

      I view it as "It takes a thief to catch a thief", and similarly to how "Black hat" hackers, if properly reformed and taught properly to be "white hat hackers", become very valuable security testers.

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey 2 года назад +1

      @@Adjudicator1 I have never thought of it like that. Sounds plausible ngl.

  • @stephenhenion8304
    @stephenhenion8304 2 года назад

    Cheating and "Engeneering" are the first 2 words that come to mind! How else you gonna win? It's like Bluffing in Poker.... when millionaires get involved, I can't comment...great video!

  • @slaphead90
    @slaphead90 2 года назад +12

    I don't care what people think, this guy is a f'king legend and hero. The balls this guy has demands absolute respect.

    • @loupcordeille-bougault3474
      @loupcordeille-bougault3474 2 года назад +4

      Litteraly a talentless cheater whose only strength was not interfering with the people he hired for big money

    • @therrydicule
      @therrydicule 2 года назад +3

      @@loupcordeille-bougault3474
      I agree on cheater, disagree on talentless. He was a talented cheater.
      Briatore knew how to get talents (Schumacher would have ended either at Sauber or Jordan without Briatore) and play not just the rules but the enforcement mechanisms.
      The issue is he went too far by arrogance and greed.

    • @freerideshuttle
      @freerideshuttle 2 года назад +2

      ​@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 instead, think his talent was being a step ahead from the others. An Adrian Newey of the management. F1 is and was always a part of rule not infringement but just on the edge at the point that FIA can't tell the difference. too clearly. nowadays it's shifted the situation. you present a project, they verify it. if they approve, you can put it on the car

  • @peterthomas5792
    @peterthomas5792 2 года назад +1

    I owned a Peugeot 205 Mi16 that Willem Toet put together & hillclimbed, reg no F50PPC. Was a fun car...

  • @smitch10
    @smitch10 7 месяцев назад +3

    Who's here after he came back

  • @stevenberry90
    @stevenberry90 10 месяцев назад

    Nice work on 1994, showing Mick in Michaels car... Also not mentioning that cars started on different fuel levels, so there's no proof Brazil had anything to do with refueling speed

  • @ozamatazbuckshank7467
    @ozamatazbuckshank7467 2 года назад +6

    His girlfriend list are legendary

  • @GB-vn1tf
    @GB-vn1tf 3 месяца назад +2

    Yet, Flavio is now back!

  • @bpuaz
    @bpuaz 2 года назад +16

    Schuemacher and flavio were a match made in heaven

  • @SweetWitchNerd
    @SweetWitchNerd 7 месяцев назад +1

    And now about a week ago Alpine has announced his return as Alpine's very own Helmut Marko, oh how turntables haven't

  • @justliech3948
    @justliech3948 2 года назад +8

    My father used to say that he always had a suspicion on briottori after senna talked about the track control, father belived that Senna's car was sabotaged due to that

    • @LeonKotze70
      @LeonKotze70 2 года назад +5

      I take it your father never watched a single video on the Senna crash????

    • @justliech3948
      @justliech3948 2 года назад +5

      @@LeonKotze70 i may never know, it was before we had internet, idk how many times he had seen it

  • @Aletek
    @Aletek 2 года назад +1

    Epic boss. Nico Rosberg interviewed him for his channel, and it's an absolutely recommended watch.

  • @TheInstitution
    @TheInstitution 2 года назад +3

    Briatore is the most Italian man ever.
    Never a day of work in his life, but he has the talk to back it out. 🏁

  • @MrLucasDM
    @MrLucasDM 7 месяцев назад +1

    I came from the future to tell He joins Alpine as a consultant

  • @brightenupcc
    @brightenupcc 2 года назад +6

    And Pat Symonds now working for F1 as CTO. It’s not whether you cheat, it’s who you know

    • @Adjudicator1
      @Adjudicator1 2 года назад

      There is also the old adage "Hire a thief to stop a thief" and "Set a thief to catch a thief". If these "black hats" can be recruited and become "white hats", I hope their knowledge and experience can be put to productive contribution to the sport.

  • @orangejjay
    @orangejjay 2 года назад +2

    Awesome to see how you guys have almost 10x more subscribers than you did this same time a year ago. Kickin' ass!

  • @CarimboHanky
    @CarimboHanky 2 года назад +2

    haha you can tell this guy really enjoyed his work 😂
    bending the interpretation of the rules is the bread and butter of pretty much any motor sport

  • @alanburge2725
    @alanburge2725 2 года назад +1

    To me though as a F1 tragic and fanatic his story is just one amongst others. Check out Lotus and Colin Chapman for another example. F1 over the years seems to be full of some colourful characters who have interesting backgrounds and histories behind them. If you delve into the history of this sport and teams and owners over the years you will be blown away by some of the stories.

  • @timonsteup2877
    @timonsteup2877 2 года назад +9

    Remember that he is the manager of Mark Webber who is the manager for Oscar Piastri. I would not be surprised if he was involved in the whole Alpine-McLaren-Piastri drama.

  • @daryx.langdale
    @daryx.langdale 6 месяцев назад +1

    Willem Toet's description of how they engineered traction control without engineering traction control reifies my impression that F1 is as much an engineering contest as it is a sport. If cheating is executed that brilliantly, it's hard to call it cheating at all.

  • @Menca.
    @Menca. 2 года назад +10

    Flavio Briatore, a living legend.

  • @satyris410
    @satyris410 2 года назад

    I love this channel, Scott has clearly worked on his delivery and it shows, and the production it top notch. next stop 1m

  • @mauricioruffatti9531
    @mauricioruffatti9531 2 года назад +11

    Briatore is a genius, especially on the commercial side of things. He should be running F1.

    • @A-BYTE94
      @A-BYTE94 2 года назад

      He is doing this

    • @rhyswilliams4893
      @rhyswilliams4893 2 года назад +1

      He's a large part to do with it atm. It's just not loudly spoke about. He's not the face f1 wants.

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 2 года назад +2

      Just no, why should a cheating criminal fraud be in charge of anything, let alone a sport?

  • @TheVredeHunter
    @TheVredeHunter Год назад

    That traction control workaround is brilliant

  • @AnthonySmith-nn4cr
    @AnthonySmith-nn4cr 2 года назад +4

    I would love to see more history videos from you guys!! Coiming from an f1 obsessed American drive to survive baby the f1 history videos on youtube are my favorite.

  • @MarSAttK
    @MarSAttK 2 года назад +1

    One of your best videos so far. Great watch!

  • @cantfindawayout
    @cantfindawayout 7 месяцев назад +3

    This video certainly did not age well 😂
    And besides, even at the time it was made (last year), it was well known that Briatore could return to F1 at any moment, he only agreed to stay out of it up to 2012. Every year after that was a fair game. Renault should have hired him as soon as 2013 tbh, they may have returned to being a proper team again instead of the laughing stock of F1 they are today.
    Briatore may be dodgy, but he did bring Renault 4 WDCs (2 Schumi, 2 Alonso) and 3 WCCs (1 Benetton, 2 Renault). He's really good at his job, that's for certain.

  • @Bluz1
    @Bluz1 2 года назад +2

    F1 needs more characters like Flavio