They're so nice and polite. In US Shark Tank the second you think of anything else besides the offer they have they're out. If you try to negotiate they're out. If Barbara is there she just gonna say shes out.
@@tarafield304 just saw one of the American sharks went back on his deal with a firefighter when it came time to sign the papers. Basically he changed it so the owner would no longer be the owner.
AUS/US versions are fake, minipallets AUS on public domain has no traded anywhere near this, UK version is the only real one, they all have shit businesses and its a gamble, this guy here is utter crap, over 100,000 units sold my ass!
@@ExopMan and then start to do the math on how many of those are in their late age. but i know one that has, the inventor guy from japan, other than that guy i believe you're just bluffing. Name a few else if you can since you said "some"
@@Hellbender32 Shunpei Yamazak - 5686 Kia Silverbrook - 4747 Kangguo Cheng - 2155 Lowell L. Wood, Jr. - 1942 Roderick A. Hyde - 1851 Jun Koyama - 1406 Gurtej Sandhu - 1346 Paul Lapstun - 1292 Clarence T. Tegreene - 1220 Shou-Shan Fan - 1113 Leonard Forbes - 1108 Edward K. Y. Jung - 1094 Dingus!
nah, they gutted him. He needed 200k and the expertise to get the business going, the next 200k have probably a much lower value than 20%. He got what he wanted, but payed 40% of his shares instead of 20%. If the business is succsessfull, he lost a lot.
it's not about how much business he owns. It's about how much business other own. Having 1/4 of his business is much more than having 1/5 . The more of business you own - the more you can affect it. So he has majority on the stake, but sharks have 20% each. So they still cant "control" business as they want. Now imagine they both had 25% each. that means half of his business is no longer belongs to him and they have control now
@@nemesisVtuber I think the concept you're affronting is leverage, at a 1:1:2 ratio he'd still be the majority shareholder but has far less leverage against to the investor panel versus the position he dealt on.
He thought the pallet just appeared below your boxes, he couldn't believe it when he was told that you have to put your boxes on it to start with, duh !
This sounds like a good idea. Too bad we didn't have something like this available when I was working. We'd have 12 boxes of computer paper delivered then sort them into size and type of paper 9.5, 14 7/8, 2 part, 3 part. Then move them around carrying them or by borrowing a hand cart.
@@thickestmoney93_47 Can't you just get better quality hand trucks that have sufficient base? I don't see how these help with lifting . You still have to somehow stack boxes/beer onto a pallet. If I have a stack of boxes to move, it's generally very easy to just lean them over a bit to get the hand truck underneath, and then lean back. And if it's fragile, wrap them with plastic first.
@@emmakai2243 Use of mini pallets is really fast and stock is moved around a store a lot more often than shoppers think. Beer cases are also mildly damp in a cool room a lot of the time so I would worry about sliding a hand truck underneath directly against the cardboard. The biggest practicality bonus is that we could park a pallet from the delivery anywhere - inside the store, out the front, etc. Still would be able to stack them onto a mini pallet just once and wheel them anywhere we needed around. Very helpful during busy periods of the store
I worked in the shipping industry for quite a while and this would have saved several injuries that I know of first hand when it comes to dense, heavy products like small engine blocks and CVT transmission housings. Its the perfect size for them and would have saved at least 2 of my friends from back injuries
The reason is that the product already exists. It's called a skid. It's bigger and designed for use with forklifts. This is literally just smaller and plastic. If no one has actually ever done this before, then the entire world is completely mad.
Neilson Truong skids don’t fit through doorways at gas stations and households where this is is designed to go.. so it’s actually practical. If youve ever moved a household you’d know
Neilson Truong well my personal experience is all I can speak on.. Ive worked on and off as a whs driver for about 15 years and I’ve never seen it, anywhere
Ron Simons why wouldn’t you be able to just use a hand cart/dolly/hand truck? I work in the beer industry and we just scoop the products without a “pallet”.
Hmm yeah I have been using something very similar for years only what I made is just made out of 2×2s and scraps. Quite literally free for me anyone with half a brain can just build some out of wood or metal.
@@Moises.b1 Hi! I have no problems with dollies. Tilt a box back and slide the dolly under. The problem is with items pushed up against each other. For those you need to walk the box prior to tilting. These are great for customers I think. Also garden centers. Getting a dolly under a planter is a pain. Anyhow for ladies and ppl with back issues, this would help I think.
@@bishbosh7728 What if you don't have wood available? Have you tried to make a pallet from newspapers and cardboard boxes? The problem is moving a lot of heavy materials that don't stack well.
@@Moises.b1 It's convenient. I used to work in agricultural feed supply, and we had literally thousands of these (an older, and better designed product) I question the durability of these since they lack a central support and don't appear to stack well. They save an incredible amount of time, especially if you work in an environment where you can't use forklifts and wooden skids. We stored 90% of our product on these, 500-700lbs a pallet, makes grabbing them super easy.
I’m not going to lie, this gentleman just inspired me. I’ve thought of old age as something stalking me, an inevitability of lesser than, he’s coming up with ideas in his golden years, I aspire to still be doing that. Thank you, sir. Respect.
If he doesn’t have any patents, this business will sadly die, as Chinese companies will make them and sell it for cheaper. Most likely, Home Depot and Lowes will make their own too. 😟
This product has been around for decades.... This is just a seemingly inferior product that doesn't have a central support, and seems like it wouldn't stack nearly as well. Maybe they aren't in australia, but he appears to be ripping off another company.
Every retail store in the world has that ONE product that the staff hates moving around... and they neglected to mention shop wear on the cartons being greatly mitigated. It will also be extremely compatible with automation. This is a very, very strong product concept.
I love how in Aussie Shark Tank episodes theres usually a shark happy to explain the offers and in this case prompt them to the next action such as "Do you want to do them a counter offer". I realise that mostly they are trying to get themselves the best deal but theres a tiny sliver there just wanting to not completely rip them off
@@AvastarBin One of the reason to support this opinion is that.. i can't unsee it. The picture does have a marketing value, appearantly. You do have a good eye, sire. Now if you'll excuse me i'm gonna look for a theraphy.
I work for Budweiser in America, I am hands on in the warehouse, and absolutely mini pallets could not only help with the weight on the back, but the ease of movement with multiple cases. I love the product 😍
This would be a more professional way for delivery to drop things off! In a restaurant things have to be off the ground, usually resorting to using old racks converting them to floor risers. Especially with boxes of alchohol that sit together until they're needed to restock if theres too much product ordered or something.
I worked at a Grain store in New Hampshire about 5 years ago, we would get our horse feed and dog food shipped in a 53’ trailer stacked on mini pallets. We used a similar hand truck/dolly with forks that slid under and would lock up to tip them back and roll away. I always wondered if or why it was never patented. Excellent idea and definitely a back saver.
I used to work in a nightclub where all stock was moved on wooden versions of these mini-pallets. They were an essential part of moving large volumes of packaged stock to different locations quickly and safely.
I worked in liquorland where we used these mini pallets as the base for beer carton stacks. Its great and makes work alot easier, you can pick up and move a stack of 5 cartons with ease.
This product is actually quite ingenious. I spent over three years working in an industrial parts distributor working in the stockroom and running deliveries. This would've been an excellent product for use in the stockroom and for "stop and drop" contract customers.
The real benefit I saw was anyone who's ever used a dolly knows how annoying it is to get it under the box or whatever it might be. That being raised and inch you can easily slide the dolly under.
Great for people that only use a dolly at home once in a blue moon but if you use it all day every day as in deliveries this is a waste of time and money.
Why not just use a hand truck, its literally the same thing without mini pallets everywhere... I'm starting to loose faith in humanity...we just want the next new idea to something that's not broke..
@@Half_Gassed move a stack of 50+ lb boxes around multiple times and see how beat to hell the bottom box gets ramming the hand truck under it each time. I know people like to shit on these products but they are not designed for someone moving your stuff 1 time. it designed for repetitive moving and repositioning of products. Work 1 day in retail and it will change your mind.
@@mattg1987 you are obviously using them wrong then. You're supposed to tilt the stack of boxes away slightly then scoot the hand truck under. I work for napa and do it daily with no damage to anything.
@@Half_Gassed the idea im sure is to reduce the stress over doing that for years. Even if you're experienced in moving heavy loads all day everyday, unloading and loading constant loads... That's going to put strain on you at some point in your career. It just makes transfers faster and easier
I worked on a bee farm this last summer, where we used what we called mini pallets, that we had made out of wood, to move around stacks of heavy honey boxes (about 5 boxes weighing 30-80 pounds each). Their design was essentially identical to these.
Freight comes in all shapes and sizes. But with a box like that I just push it forward from the top and slide my hand trolley underneath once it’s leaned forward. Same with fridges, washing machines and other similar freight.
I used to be a facilities manager and if the price was reduced to $5-$7unit at quantity, and if supply shipping companies used these on a similar system as milk/creates (periodical charges for nonreturned units) they could save a fortune on labour for them and their customers who are buying less than a full pallet worth of goods. Smaller pallets could mean more trips, but less time/truck space in loading and unloading goods at driver deliver and customer organization
as someone who works in distribution currently, all you have to do is downscoop. you tilt the top box on the stack forward slightly and push the dolly under, tilt the dolly back and everything slides back into place. solution for a problem that doesnt exist for people who already own dollies.
I used to work in a supermarket and in hospitality. They are normally loaded on big pallets anyway. It would like you said, mean more trips and take longer. However, it would in the end save time because it would save individual workers lifting and loading on each trolley for distribution.
@@ohnevergoingtoquit True, this generally works, but I've watched less experienced people try this and end up with the box/furniture toppling over. This mini pallet idea might reduce accidents, which might make it worthwhile.
@@ohnevergoingtoquit Agreed. I can see using these small pallets a nightmare for storing your back stock. Most places would just put them on a big pallet so they can move around a lot more product at once. Rather than a bunch of smaller pallets using several trips.
That's what I was thinking when I was watching this... You don't pick up boxes, you slide the dolly underneath the boxes (that's why its flat...). I can see these small pallets being useful, but no way is $12 a pallet justifiable. Should be more like $5 a pallet.
@@GamingTaylor well, the 12$ was retail, for buying them as single units probably. If you bought them wholesale in bulk you could probably only expect to pay 7-8$ per item. Keep in mind they would also probably be cheaper once his manufacturering cost drops, as it's costing 5$ to produce 1 pallet.
yea u just tip the box and push tongue in, at 12$ pallet company will want them back instead giving them to customers or leaving to store, so u end up lifting the product and taking the pallet with u
It's not lifting the one box or boxes onto the pallet that's the problem. It's the 5 boxes that weigh in excess of 100 pounds that the vendor needs to tilt forward first(DANGEROUS) and then he needs to slide the dolly underneath and then he needs to pull the boxes back so they are fully seated(also dangerous). With this product you set the boxes on the mini-pallet and slide the dolly underneath and pull back on the dolly. That's one back and forth movement as opposed to multiple corrections. It's sorta hard for suits to understand physical labor so this inventor's problem was he didn't cure their ignorance with a proper demonstration which could have involved 7 cases of Snapple that needs to be transported 75 feet. There are 2 stack and he moves one with the mini-pallet and he invites the oblivious shark to move the other 7.
jacob tinkler Not really his point though. He’s saying why bother lifting it onto the pallet when you can just lift it onto the trolly. Same height. It’s basically the same thing. Seems pointless. Unless you’re moving it more than once. But even then, you don’t really have to lift it up and place it on the trolly. The trollies are designed to slip underneath items without lifting them up anyway. So now you’re just lifting the heavy box unnecessarily.
mh94 the thing is that the product is used to where can you pick up many things and not have to take it off or on the trolly and just drop it off or pick it up wherever you want
He's saying that because there are things called hand trucks that are already in use everywhere and this is the same thing, except with an added uneeded step. Adding a "mini pallet " under boxes...
@@Half_Gassed one added benefit the mini pallets actually have, that I think is heavily underrated. If using them for storage and quick transfer of products, as we do in BWS, the product (your box/package) is no longer on the floor itself. We have many spillages/breakages and any boxes that are near them get easily damaged, not so if on a mini pallet. Not a big point but an important one
I see great use for this product by major companies in smaller countries that still use manual labour in warehouses and in delivery. For eg. Just yesterday I had a delivery come in which weighed around 50 kg across 4 boxes. 2 delivery person carried the boxes one by one to me. With this product they would only need to place the delivery at the warehouse. And then just slide the cart underneath and bring it down a ramp (ramp can be retractable as well allowing for more boxes) to be shipped inside a van
Surprised this sells so well. If its just for using a dolley easier it seems silly. Never had issues sliding a dolley under heavy things, it is what they are for..
But for warehousing it's invaluable, for that reason they've been around for decades. Try sliding a dolley under a stack of 100lb salt bags - weighing half a ton total. Try sliding it under items that fit 2 deep onto a pallet. Try sliding a dolley under any breakable bags. These have been around for decades and are incredibly useful. This guy just made a lower quality knockoff of a fantastic product.
I ordered a washer from Lowe's and usually I pick up myself but I had to get it delivered. I was quite amazed how they carried it. It was like a huge rubber band that attached to both men via a harness and they seemed to move it quite easily. Idk if that if good or bad for their back but they sure didn't struggle.
Perry Robitionate I thought the same thing. Patents are always important, this product especially so. He needs both a design patent and a utility patent. That means the product can’t be copied but a design patent insurance there can be the same product but different brands. He’s got to get those before he contacts a wholesaler like Hone Depot.
Because the patent for the pallet or shipping base designed for the fork system was placed in the 1920s. He didn’t technically invent anything he just built a new niche product for a pre existing market but there is clearly a demand for it so good for him.
I have a system like this in my Bottleshop and it’s been there for about 6 years before I bought the business staff noted. Completely different look to this so I’d dare say he doesn’t have one
@@josephcraffigan8489 Absolutely. But I asked the question because in almost all instances I've seen on the four versions I've watched (US, Canada -where it all started- Britain and Australia), when someone doesn't have a patent in place, everyone tends to mutter 'And for that reason, I'm out.'
We used this exact same item 35 years ago in the grocery business (US). Only differences are that they were made of wood, and they were primarily used for cases of soft drinks. The soft drinks were delivered on these and placed in our warehouse, then when it was time to stock the shelves on the sales floor someone would use a dolly, pick them up, and off they'd go.
I am someone who worked at a grocery store for many years (through part of highschool and most of college). I had to lift and move a lot of heavy boxes. There are a couple things of note: 1) A lot of times we do not have a dolly to move the boxes around, and most of the time we were loading the boxes onto special carts. If not that, we'd be using pallet jacks with full-sized pallets. 2) The logistics to return these things would be a nightmare. Whoever receives boxes on top of those mini pallets will need to send them back to the warehouse so they can be reused. No company will buy those things just to use them once and destroy them. 3) When using a dolly to move boxes, it's quite easy to just tilt a box enough for slip the dolly under it. Even heavy boxes in almost every situation can be easily tilted just a tiny bit. I do see this being used heavily in the food and beverage industry. Many places such as Starbucks have a truck pull up, and someone will load boxes onto a dolly, use a lift or ramp at the back of the truck to get the goods on the ground, and then wheel the boxes into the building. What you will also see is that each individual box has to be hand-moved to the correct location in the storage room/fridge/freezer. Some of those boxes are heavy. I use Starbucks as an example because my fiance works there. So this does not remove the risk of back injury in that situation, and now this mini pallet would add in the added challenge of storing these things until the next delivery where they can be given to the driver to take back to the warehouse. This may seem like nothing to most of you, but I can tell you it's a pain in the ass anytime there's something that has to be returned to the company warehouse. I do not see this as a product that will come close to being effective enough at saving people's backs.
Really makes me want to go to Australia majority of the ideas pitched are good ones or are already solid business and everyone seems to be very honest good hearted people
Delivering goods for past 5 years, if there is a box on the floor you just tilt it and slide trolley, ruck sack underneath. It's not that hard. It's fixing almost non existing problem.
But, some items are really heavy. If you're going to have to put the box down anyway, why not have something it can sit on that allows you to easily put a trolley under it and move it to where ever? I like his idea. 🙂
Hold on a second, this is just a small plastic skid. I've worked with wooden skids for years in orchards and greenhouses. You can't tell me that not one person has ever designed a smaller version of that for use with moving small boxes.
The key is to market it towards manufacturing companies that might make heavy things such as window units or refrigerators for example. The product can come already strapped to a heavy item straight from the manufacturer. This reduces effort and injury through the entire supply chain all the way to the consumer.
Wow I applaud this guy for having the balls to stand up to them like that, most people I’ve seen that are presented with not so great offers on this show are usually pressured into taking them because they don’t want to walk away without a deal or even risk it. Well done Peter! And you still got a deal, that’s amazing! Personally I think I would’ve counter offered Andrew alone and gone with him, but I just don’t like Naomi, I’m honestly surprised she made an offer as she rarely does. Also surprised Steve didn’t really have much to say whatsoever. I guess that’s cuz he’s never been in the labor industry on any level lol
Industrial Engineer with experience in warehousing and manufacturing. This product has huge potential in anything related to material handling and distribution logistics
I don't mean to beat him down... But I've seen plenty of those here in Asia.. And our dolleys come with a sort of thin metal tray you can slide under heavy boxes. I've moved dozens of boxes like so for years...
I actually need one of these for my yard. I have two potted apple trees in giant 30 gallon pots. Not only are they a back breaker to move.. but unless you do it every couple of days, it starts killing the grass and leaving ugly holes in the grass during winter
They need to team up with big chain retail stores Home Depot Walmart and Amazon. Even the restaurant franchises. The possibilities are endless. I bet Steve going to regret then.
First off, I didn't know Shark Tank was in other countries. Awesome. More good stuff to watch. But, this idea is pretty solid, especially if he can get international patents going. Regular sized pallets are already a major part of transportation and delivery businesses, so I don't see why this couldn't be as well. It's super helpful and should be easy to implement. It's genius in its simplicity and the sharks who don't understand it wouldn't be good partners anyways.
Its a bloody cut up milk crate. I've moved a lot of heavy shit in my time, and lets be honest, to put it on one of them, you first must lift the product off the ground, and then onto the "mini-pallet," I'd much rather just tilt the object a touch, and slide the dolly in under it. Multiple boxes, as long as they don't have some stupid lamination on top and are slightly wet wont shift around from a small tilt, even if they did, all you would have to do is pick up the boxes minus the one you'd had to pick up to put on the mini-pallet anyways. Only reason i'd see this as useful is if you filled a real pallet full of these mini-pallets, and have a small ramp made to go up to the height so you can wheel them off. That or the company loves its drivers and for some reason will wrap each single stack of boxes and the mini-pallet before they shove it in the truck. Just for reference, he sells the mini-pallets (according to the video) for $12 each (assuming AUS) and according to a quick google search, a full size pallet costs 15-19 (AUS). A milk crate costs 5-7 USD, this is basically the arse end of a milk crate. 7 USD is 11 AUS (according to google, officially 10.94). If he gets an actual supply chain, due to it being basically a ready made piece of a product, and much smaller in size and material amount, he should be charging way less for this shit.
Tipping a stack of boxes away from you a bit will allow a gap to slide a normal dolly under. But might not work with all goods. Years ago I made a version of this out of a piece of plywood and a couple pieces of scrap wood to move bags of fertilizer that the dolly would damage, works great.
I don’t get it said the guy who’s never lifted a heavy box
No surprises there. Most successful business people are pussies afraid of physical work
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@@justanoob111 work smarter not harder
@@rofllmaoxd stfu just get the point
@@justanoob111 What a statement lol
The music is always like they are bringing out the cure for cancer when they show the product, lmao
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that was a good one :) cant stop laughing..
You I was literally thinking the exact same thing when I heard it and now I'm dead from laughing after reading this 💀💀💀
@Mrfixit they wouldn't, cure for cancer dont make money, treatment that doesnt promises a cure does
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No one asked if it was patented - Chinese are going to start selling these for a $1 each
Even if it was patented it wouldnt be safe from china anyways
Exactly that 5$ production cost for a piece of plastic is absurd.
My thoughts exactly. Present it to home depot and a month later they're manufacturing it themselves...
Haha you dont need China to make a copy. Plenty would copy.
Too late, I can already buy these. I saw them in the states, grandville MI about 2004.
They're so nice and polite. In US Shark Tank the second you think of anything else besides the offer they have they're out. If you try to negotiate they're out. If Barbara is there she just gonna say shes out.
The u.s is a very cut throat market 🤷♂️ that's how it is thats why they produce investors like that
I hate the US sharks, the hosts are always mucking around like its a massive attention grab
@@tarafield304 just saw one of the American sharks went back on his deal with a firefighter when it came time to sign the papers. Basically he changed it so the owner would no longer be the owner.
Completely factually untrue, people counter on us shark tank very often and get a deal. Stop spreading lies
AUS/US versions are fake, minipallets AUS on public domain has no traded anywhere near this, UK version is the only real one, they all have shit businesses and its a gamble, this guy here is utter crap, over 100,000 units sold my ass!
That guy is a huge inventor. Looked him up, he has over 20 patents!
Some people have over a thousand!
@@ExopMan Bruh...
@@ExopMan and then start to do the math on how many of those are in their late age. but i know one that has, the inventor guy from japan, other than that guy i believe you're just bluffing. Name a few else if you can since you said "some"
@@Hellbender32
Shunpei Yamazak - 5686
Kia Silverbrook - 4747
Kangguo Cheng - 2155
Lowell L. Wood, Jr. - 1942
Roderick A. Hyde - 1851
Jun Koyama - 1406
Gurtej Sandhu - 1346
Paul Lapstun - 1292
Clarence T. Tegreene - 1220
Shou-Shan Fan - 1113
Leonard Forbes - 1108
Edward K. Y. Jung - 1094
Dingus!
@@ExopMan how many patents do you have? I think this discussion is very uninteresting.
I find it nice that the older gentleman stood his ground, he could tell the sharks were going to do it and he didn’t lower his standards. Nice.
nah, they gutted him. He needed 200k and the expertise to get the business going, the next 200k have probably a much lower value than 20%. He got what he wanted, but payed 40% of his shares instead of 20%. If the business is succsessfull, he lost a lot.
@Eversteijn or maybe he has a family to share it with
@@peytongraham8661 it amazes me how lots of people don't think of family and friends when it comes to money lol
Thank you for the kind words
Shark Tank Australia seems so much nicer and friendlier than Dragon's Den and Shark Tank US
Mark Felisilda it’s because we’re all mates here.
Mark Felisilda US is much rougher because you have to
@@brostyle1036 You're right. Thanks, Obama
Its because the Aussies, they're all related.......:)
Do you mean shark tank and dragons den Uk
Guy: “25% is too high”
Naomi: “How about 40%?”
it's not about how much business he owns. It's about how much business other own. Having 1/4 of his business is much more than having 1/5 . The more of business you own - the more you can affect it. So he has majority on the stake, but sharks have 20% each. So they still cant "control" business as they want. Now imagine they both had 25% each. that means half of his business is no longer belongs to him and they have control now
Deal!
@@nemesisVtuber I think the concept you're affronting is leverage, at a 1:1:2 ratio he'd still be the majority shareholder but has far less leverage against to the investor panel versus the position he dealt on.
They lost him. 😁
But there’s 2 sharks involved with their connections, logistics, and knowledge
Steve stopped believing in the product as he didn't get to ask "where you from mate?" ;p
Big dunce couldn’t figure it out
He thought the pallet just appeared below your boxes, he couldn't believe it when he was told that you have to put your boxes on it to start with, duh !
The last time Steve even lifted something was the toilet lid.
This sounds like a good idea. Too bad we didn't have something like this available when I was working. We'd have 12 boxes of computer paper delivered then sort them into size and type of paper 9.5, 14 7/8, 2 part, 3 part. Then move them around carrying them or by borrowing a hand cart.
I can't stop laughing now
"U got the wrong shark"
* nobody even looks at him
*sigh
But he got him a good deal.
I lost it
Didn’t even shake his hand either
I see these being used at Liquorland all the time to load cartons of beer so I think the product is doing well.
I used to work in a BWS and we used these and they were absolutely invaluable for moving beer. Saved heaps of hours long term and lifting
They are cheap Chinese knock ons
@@thickestmoney93_47 Can't you just get better quality hand trucks that have sufficient base? I don't see how these help with lifting . You still have to somehow stack boxes/beer onto a pallet. If I have a stack of boxes to move, it's generally very easy to just lean them over a bit to get the hand truck underneath, and then lean back. And if it's fragile, wrap them with plastic first.
@@emmakai2243 Use of mini pallets is really fast and stock is moved around a store a lot more often than shoppers think. Beer cases are also mildly damp in a cool room a lot of the time so I would worry about sliding a hand truck underneath directly against the cardboard. The biggest practicality bonus is that we could park a pallet from the delivery anywhere - inside the store, out the front, etc. Still would be able to stack them onto a mini pallet just once and wheel them anywhere we needed around. Very helpful during busy periods of the store
@@thickestmoney93_47 🙌
In a few weeks the product will be available on alibaba for $1 each..made in china style..
It's a good thing you get to choose who you buy from then isn't it.
I worked in the shipping industry for quite a while and this would have saved several injuries that I know of first hand when it comes to dense, heavy products like small engine blocks and CVT transmission housings.
Its the perfect size for them and would have saved at least 2 of my friends from back injuries
This is one of those products that makes you think, “why didn’t I think of that.”
Ya I just saw the 'Clean Bottle' from the US Shark Tank and thought the same!
The reason is that the product already exists. It's called a skid. It's bigger and designed for use with forklifts. This is literally just smaller and plastic.
If no one has actually ever done this before, then the entire world is completely mad.
Neilson Truong skids don’t fit through doorways at gas stations and households where this is is designed to go.. so it’s actually practical. If youve ever moved a household you’d know
@@susdad Yes, it's useful. So useful that I refuse to believe that no one has done this before.
Neilson Truong well my personal experience is all I can speak on.. Ive worked on and off as a whs driver for about 15 years and I’ve never seen it, anywhere
In a place like home depot and our local garden center, these would help so much.
Ron Simons why wouldn’t you be able to just use a hand cart/dolly/hand truck? I work in the beer industry and we just scoop the products without a “pallet”.
Hmm yeah I have been using something very similar for years only what I made is just made out of 2×2s and scraps. Quite literally free for me anyone with half a brain can just build some out of wood or metal.
@@Moises.b1 Hi! I have no problems with dollies. Tilt a box back and slide the dolly under. The problem is with items pushed up against each other. For those you need to walk the box prior to tilting. These are great for customers I think. Also garden centers. Getting a dolly under a planter is a pain. Anyhow for ladies and ppl with back issues, this would help I think.
@@bishbosh7728
What if you don't have wood available? Have you tried to make a pallet from newspapers and cardboard boxes? The problem is moving a lot of heavy materials that don't stack well.
@@Moises.b1
It's convenient. I used to work in agricultural feed supply, and we had literally thousands of these (an older, and better designed product) I question the durability of these since they lack a central support and don't appear to stack well. They save an incredible amount of time, especially if you work in an environment where you can't use forklifts and wooden skids. We stored 90% of our product on these, 500-700lbs a pallet, makes grabbing them super easy.
I’m not going to lie, this gentleman just inspired me. I’ve thought of old age as something stalking me, an inevitability of lesser than, he’s coming up with ideas in his golden years, I aspire to still be doing that. Thank you, sir. Respect.
Thank you for the kind words Aeonjoey
I like Glen, I think he's the best shark. Didn't even interrupt he knew the guy would get a good deal.
If he doesn’t have any patents, this business will sadly die, as Chinese companies will make them and sell it for cheaper. Most likely, Home Depot and Lowes will make their own too. 😟
It's true. They didn't ask about patents. Unusual.
The Chinese will make them regardless of if there's a patent. China don't give a shit and don't enforce patent laws
No difference...wheather u have parent or not. they gonna copy and make it cheaper n sell it for cheaper price.
This product has been around for decades.... This is just a seemingly inferior product that doesn't have a central support, and seems like it wouldn't stack nearly as well. Maybe they aren't in australia, but he appears to be ripping off another company.
@@Artyomthewalrus Yeah was a bit confused, I've seen these around before and I'm in Australia.
Every retail store in the world has that ONE product that the staff hates moving around... and they neglected to mention shop wear on the cartons being greatly mitigated. It will also be extremely compatible with automation. This is a very, very strong product concept.
yeah it could also means making the box reusable since you don't accidently puncture the boxes. Thus making it more sustainable
Barbra: “I don’t live in Australia. So for that reason I’m out”
I love how in Aussie Shark Tank episodes theres usually a shark happy to explain the offers and in this case prompt them to the next action such as "Do you want to do them a counter offer". I realise that mostly they are trying to get themselves the best deal but theres a tiny sliver there just wanting to not completely rip them off
"How's that little heart of yours?"
"Mostly electronic mdam."
Avastar_Bin LMAOOO
You sir your pic should be burned
@@josephoneill3532 That picture is a gem that I found on the web a while back and shall be put in museums
@@AvastarBin One of the reason to support this opinion is that.. i can't unsee it. The picture does have a marketing value, appearantly. You do have a good eye, sire. Now if you'll excuse me i'm gonna look for a theraphy.
It’s failing ma’m
I work for Budweiser in America, I am hands on in the warehouse, and absolutely mini pallets could not only help with the weight on the back, but the ease of movement with multiple cases. I love the product 😍
This would be a more professional way for delivery to drop things off! In a restaurant things have to be off the ground, usually resorting to using old racks converting them to floor risers. Especially with boxes of alchohol that sit together until they're needed to restock if theres too much product ordered or something.
That guy is a perfect example of AUTHENTIC charisma, no try-hard bs... Great & genuine guy.
Thank you for your kind words!
I worked at a Grain store in New Hampshire about 5 years ago, we would get our horse feed and dog food shipped in a 53’ trailer stacked on mini pallets. We used a similar hand truck/dolly with forks that slid under and would lock up to tip them back and roll away. I always wondered if or why it was never patented. Excellent idea and definitely a back saver.
I used to work in a nightclub where all stock was moved on wooden versions of these mini-pallets. They were an essential part of moving large volumes of packaged stock to different locations quickly and safely.
I worked in liquorland where we used these mini pallets as the base for beer carton stacks. Its great and makes work alot easier, you can pick up and move a stack of 5 cartons with ease.
Thanks downunderdog appreciate the kind words
This product is actually quite ingenious. I spent over three years working in an industrial parts distributor working in the stockroom and running deliveries. This would've been an excellent product for use in the stockroom and for "stop and drop" contract customers.
The real benefit I saw was anyone who's ever used a dolly knows how annoying it is to get it under the box or whatever it might be. That being raised and inch you can easily slide the dolly under.
no, a normal dolly can't go under it, you need a special fork dolly
@@johnmonk66 literally what I said
Also, this product provides a more stable base than just a dolly or hand truck alone.
Great for people that only use a dolly at home once in a blue moon but if you use it all day every day as in deliveries this is a waste of time and money.
But these things have existed forever now!!
as somebody who has worked retail stocking this product is actually pretty damn useful, if i had a business id get these
I've worked in the supply and receiving/logistics industry. Warehouses everywhere can benefit from these!
Why not just use a hand truck, its literally the same thing without mini pallets everywhere... I'm starting to loose faith in humanity...we just want the next new idea to something that's not broke..
@@Half_Gassed move a stack of 50+ lb boxes around multiple times and see how beat to hell the bottom box gets ramming the hand truck under it each time. I know people like to shit on these products but they are not designed for someone moving your stuff 1 time. it designed for repetitive moving and repositioning of products. Work 1 day in retail and it will change your mind.
@@mattg1987 you are obviously using them wrong then. You're supposed to tilt the stack of boxes away slightly then scoot the hand truck under. I work for napa and do it daily with no damage to anything.
@@Half_Gassed the idea im sure is to reduce the stress over doing that for years. Even if you're experienced in moving heavy loads all day everyday, unloading and loading constant loads... That's going to put strain on you at some point in your career. It just makes transfers faster and easier
I worked on a bee farm this last summer, where we used what we called mini pallets, that we had made out of wood, to move around stacks of heavy honey boxes (about 5 boxes weighing 30-80 pounds each). Their design was essentially identical to these.
This guy just screams "VB LONNNGNECK"
Freight comes in all shapes and sizes. But with a box like that I just push it forward from the top and slide my hand trolley underneath once it’s leaned forward. Same with fridges, washing machines and other similar freight.
If this was on the American shark tank they would've snapped at him if he tried counter offering. They're so much nicer I've in Australia(?)
That was such a well and quick pitch, im impressed!
They just cut out the rest of the part , LoL
His negotiations skills were on point. He got what he wanted.
I used to be a facilities manager and if the price was reduced to $5-$7unit at quantity, and if supply shipping companies used these on a similar system as milk/creates (periodical charges for nonreturned units) they could save a fortune on labour for them and their customers who are buying less than a full pallet worth of goods.
Smaller pallets could mean more trips, but less time/truck space in loading and unloading goods at driver deliver and customer organization
as someone who works in distribution currently, all you have to do is downscoop. you tilt the top box on the stack forward slightly and push the dolly under, tilt the dolly back and everything slides back into place. solution for a problem that doesnt exist for people who already own dollies.
I used to work in a supermarket and in hospitality. They are normally loaded on big pallets anyway. It would like you said, mean more trips and take longer. However, it would in the end save time because it would save individual workers lifting and loading on each trolley for distribution.
@@ohnevergoingtoquit True, this generally works, but I've watched less experienced people try this and end up with the box/furniture toppling over. This mini pallet idea might reduce accidents, which might make it worthwhile.
@@ohnevergoingtoquit Agreed. I can see using these small pallets a nightmare for storing your back stock. Most places would just put them on a big pallet so they can move around a lot more product at once. Rather than a bunch of smaller pallets using several trips.
I have never lifted a heavy box onto a dolly. If it is heavy, you can push the tongue right under neath.
That's what I was thinking when I was watching this... You don't pick up boxes, you slide the dolly underneath the boxes (that's why its flat...). I can see these small pallets being useful, but no way is $12 a pallet justifiable. Should be more like $5 a pallet.
Yeah I'd consider myself a dolly pro and i dolly straight from the truck to warehouse just tip top push underneath boom not sure what this solves
@@GamingTaylor well, the 12$ was retail, for buying them as single units probably. If you bought them wholesale in bulk you could probably only expect to pay 7-8$ per item. Keep in mind they would also probably be cheaper once his manufacturering cost drops, as it's costing 5$ to produce 1 pallet.
@@GamingTaylor - What's the cost of an employee who does his back in ?
yea u just tip the box and push tongue in, at 12$ pallet company will want them back instead giving them to customers or leaving to store, so u end up lifting the product and taking the pallet with u
So happy for this guy. Got his investment back and then some with 2 sharks who will blow this thing up!
Shrewd is the word.
He didn't get his money back, they make him put the 400k back into the company.
Steve's like " why would I ever have to lift something? I pay people for that..I'm out"
The funny thing is after the episode ended the deal actually never went through but the 3 still remained on good terms
I like how when he hits the sand wedge they put in a driver sound
Nothing new here, I saw these things more than 20 years ago already.
It's not lifting the one box or boxes onto the pallet that's the problem. It's the 5 boxes that weigh in excess of 100 pounds that the vendor needs to tilt forward first(DANGEROUS) and then he needs to slide the dolly underneath and then he needs to pull the boxes back so they are fully seated(also dangerous). With this product you set the boxes on the mini-pallet and slide the dolly underneath and pull back on the dolly. That's one back and forth movement as opposed to multiple corrections.
It's sorta hard for suits to understand physical labor so this inventor's problem was he didn't cure their ignorance with a proper demonstration which could have involved 7 cases of Snapple that needs to be transported 75 feet. There are 2 stack and he moves one with the mini-pallet and he invites the oblivious shark to move the other 7.
“I don’t get it” why is carrying a 50 pound box 40 feet harder than lifting it 2 feet, thought this guy was supposed to be smart?
jacob tinkler Not really his point though. He’s saying why bother lifting it onto the pallet when you can just lift it onto the trolly. Same height. It’s basically the same thing. Seems pointless. Unless you’re moving it more than once. But even then, you don’t really have to lift it up and place it on the trolly. The trollies are designed to slip underneath items without lifting them up anyway. So now you’re just lifting the heavy box unnecessarily.
mh94 the thing is that the product is used to where can you pick up many things and not have to take it off or on the trolly and just drop it off or pick it up wherever you want
He's saying that because there are things called hand trucks that are already in use everywhere and this is the same thing, except with an added uneeded step. Adding a "mini pallet " under boxes...
@@Half_Gassed one added benefit the mini pallets actually have, that I think is heavily underrated.
If using them for storage and quick transfer of products, as we do in BWS, the product (your box/package) is no longer on the floor itself.
We have many spillages/breakages and any boxes that are near them get easily damaged, not so if on a mini pallet.
Not a big point but an important one
I see great use for this product by major companies in smaller countries that still use manual labour in warehouses and in delivery. For eg. Just yesterday I had a delivery come in which weighed around 50 kg across 4 boxes. 2 delivery person carried the boxes one by one to me. With this product they would only need to place the delivery at the warehouse. And then just slide the cart underneath and bring it down a ramp (ramp can be retractable as well allowing for more boxes) to be shipped inside a van
These have been in the US for years. We had them in my locale feed store 20 years ago. Same style. Made carrying 50lb bag of feed a ton easier.
8:01-8:10 Awww... Glen didn’t get his hug ☹️
Surprised this sells so well. If its just for using a dolley easier it seems silly. Never had issues sliding a dolley under heavy things, it is what they are for..
But for warehousing it's invaluable, for that reason they've been around for decades. Try sliding a dolley under a stack of 100lb salt bags - weighing half a ton total. Try sliding it under items that fit 2 deep onto a pallet. Try sliding a dolley under any breakable bags. These have been around for decades and are incredibly useful. This guy just made a lower quality knockoff of a fantastic product.
I love that this was quick simple and straight to the point
I ordered a washer from Lowe's and usually I pick up myself but I had to get it delivered. I was quite amazed how they carried it. It was like a huge rubber band that attached to both men via a harness and they seemed to move it quite easily. Idk if that if good or bad for their back but they sure didn't struggle.
8:02 I love how them edited him standing up then sitting down without any handshake.
Why wasn't the question of a patent raised?
Perry Robitionate the editors do tend to cut out a lot of things, but I agree, they should’ve kept that in
Perry Robitionate I thought the same thing. Patents are always important, this product especially so.
He needs both a design patent and a utility patent. That means the product can’t be copied but a design patent insurance there can be the same product but different brands.
He’s got to get those before he contacts a wholesaler like Hone Depot.
Because the patent for the pallet or shipping base designed for the fork system was placed in the 1920s. He didn’t technically invent anything he just built a new niche product for a pre existing market but there is clearly a demand for it so good for him.
I have a system like this in my Bottleshop and it’s been there for about 6 years before I bought the business staff noted. Completely different look to this so I’d dare say he doesn’t have one
@@josephcraffigan8489 Absolutely. But I asked the question because in almost all instances I've seen on the four versions I've watched (US, Canada -where it all started- Britain and Australia), when someone doesn't have a patent in place, everyone tends to mutter 'And for that reason, I'm out.'
Someone should give the right guy some credits for being so kind and helping him.
We used this exact same item 35 years ago in the grocery business (US). Only differences are that they were made of wood, and they were primarily used for cases of soft drinks. The soft drinks were delivered on these and placed in our warehouse, then when it was time to stock the shelves on the sales floor someone would use a dolly, pick them up, and off they'd go.
Bruh lol… I was j ab to comment the same thing
This show is so positive! The sharkers’ energy is very nice and welcoming!
Never thought the day would come when I see these guys make a deal
I worked in the warehouse for decades. I’m not driving the goods I use to stack. This is genius!!!!!!!!!!
this is so much more wholesome than the us shark tank lmao
I am someone who worked at a grocery store for many years (through part of highschool and most of college). I had to lift and move a lot of heavy boxes. There are a couple things of note:
1) A lot of times we do not have a dolly to move the boxes around, and most of the time we were loading the boxes onto special carts. If not that, we'd be using pallet jacks with full-sized pallets.
2) The logistics to return these things would be a nightmare. Whoever receives boxes on top of those mini pallets will need to send them back to the warehouse so they can be reused. No company will buy those things just to use them once and destroy them.
3) When using a dolly to move boxes, it's quite easy to just tilt a box enough for slip the dolly under it. Even heavy boxes in almost every situation can be easily tilted just a tiny bit.
I do see this being used heavily in the food and beverage industry. Many places such as Starbucks have a truck pull up, and someone will load boxes onto a dolly, use a lift or ramp at the back of the truck to get the goods on the ground, and then wheel the boxes into the building. What you will also see is that each individual box has to be hand-moved to the correct location in the storage room/fridge/freezer. Some of those boxes are heavy. I use Starbucks as an example because my fiance works there. So this does not remove the risk of back injury in that situation, and now this mini pallet would add in the added challenge of storing these things until the next delivery where they can be given to the driver to take back to the warehouse. This may seem like nothing to most of you, but I can tell you it's a pain in the ass anytime there's something that has to be returned to the company warehouse.
I do not see this as a product that will come close to being effective enough at saving people's backs.
"You got the wrong shark!"
- Glen
(Glen is right!) 😂
These should also be marketed to restaurants, hair salons, grocery stores, etc! Wherever heavy boxes are delivered! Brilliant idea!
Mini pallets has been at those places for decades already
As soon as I seen that golf ball I was in........ 👍🏻😂😂😂⛳
Prob nothing to do with golf lmfaooo
I used to work in a retail warehouse. I wish we had this product then. What a genius.
They are polite humble rich. Unlike most US shark tank, that choked all the pitchers.
Really makes me want to go to Australia majority of the ideas pitched are good ones or are already solid business and everyone seems to be very honest good hearted people
So they have similar item for those lifting machine but never thought of implementing it at a smaller scale? Interesting.
I love Aussies got a great sense of humour, much love from the UK
Delivering goods for past 5 years, if there is a box on the floor you just tilt it and slide trolley, ruck sack underneath. It's not that hard. It's fixing almost non existing problem.
But, some items are really heavy. If you're going to have to put the box down anyway, why not have something it can sit on that allows you to easily put a trolley under it and move it to where ever? I like his idea. 🙂
That's probably the best deal I've seen on Australia Shark Tank! This is an ingenious idea. I'm a trucker, I seen the value immediately!
I love this idea. Like I actually love it. I would buy these little pallets and use these
Heavy boxes get set in warehouses on wooden pallets that can be moved around. Not sure I get the application.
exactly, doesn't seem different from wooden pallets,
Wow I actually could use this like twice a week for deliveries, this is amazing!
I am happy for the grandpa
He looks liks UP actor
I AM OUT because they didn't allow me on the show
Andrews face at 6:15 when the red balloon offers to bring him in 😂😂
Sell it to wine and beer and beverage companies companies, they ship alot of heavy products that can this be useful
Hold on a second, this is just a small plastic skid. I've worked with wooden skids for years in orchards and greenhouses. You can't tell me that not one person has ever designed a smaller version of that for use with moving small boxes.
If this was on americas shark tank and lori took it over this would be the next big thing
as someone who works in the delivery industry, this invention would help tremendously!
I can see these being popular in Post Offices and Construction zones.
Construction zones? They dont use pallets there..
Yeah they're so popular they've already been there for 20 years so I dont know how this guy will sell them more
The key is to market it towards manufacturing companies that might make heavy things such as window units or refrigerators for example. The product can come already strapped to a heavy item straight from the manufacturer. This reduces effort and injury through the entire supply chain all the way to the consumer.
Wow I applaud this guy for having the balls to stand up to them like that, most people I’ve seen that are presented with not so great offers on this show are usually pressured into taking them because they don’t want to walk away without a deal or even risk it. Well done Peter! And you still got a deal, that’s amazing! Personally I think I would’ve counter offered Andrew alone and gone with him, but I just don’t like Naomi, I’m honestly surprised she made an offer as she rarely does. Also surprised Steve didn’t really have much to say whatsoever. I guess that’s cuz he’s never been in the labor industry on any level lol
Industrial Engineer with experience in warehousing and manufacturing. This product has huge potential in anything related to material handling and distribution logistics
Why not stop the music when the start talking?? OHHH LORDDD
I don't mean to beat him down... But I've seen plenty of those here in Asia.. And our dolleys come with a sort of thin metal tray you can slide under heavy boxes. I've moved dozens of boxes like so for years...
Im a mover this would be genius but the plant on a dolly without it hits the top i wonder if it will slide still on the dolly
Where i worked there are wodden pallets that are used for fridges and washing machines
I work at UPS and I swear if we get one of these imma go mental
Omar Ignacio Silvestrini in a suprised way
I actually need one of these for my yard. I have two potted apple trees in giant 30 gallon pots. Not only are they a back breaker to move.. but unless you do it every couple of days, it starts killing the grass and leaving ugly holes in the grass during winter
They need to team up with big chain retail stores Home Depot Walmart and Amazon. Even the restaurant franchises. The possibilities are endless.
I bet Steve going to regret then.
First off, I didn't know Shark Tank was in other countries. Awesome. More good stuff to watch. But, this idea is pretty solid, especially if he can get international patents going. Regular sized pallets are already a major part of transportation and delivery businesses, so I don't see why this couldn't be as well. It's super helpful and should be easy to implement. It's genius in its simplicity and the sharks who don't understand it wouldn't be good partners anyways.
Because you didn't know Shark Tank was in other countries, I'm out!
Janine: Barbara is not here, so I'm out 😅
Its a bloody cut up milk crate.
I've moved a lot of heavy shit in my time, and lets be honest, to put it on one of them, you first must lift the product off the ground, and then onto the "mini-pallet," I'd much rather just tilt the object a touch, and slide the dolly in under it. Multiple boxes, as long as they don't have some stupid lamination on top and are slightly wet wont shift around from a small tilt, even if they did, all you would have to do is pick up the boxes minus the one you'd had to pick up to put on the mini-pallet anyways.
Only reason i'd see this as useful is if you filled a real pallet full of these mini-pallets, and have a small ramp made to go up to the height so you can wheel them off. That or the company loves its drivers and for some reason will wrap each single stack of boxes and the mini-pallet before they shove it in the truck.
Just for reference, he sells the mini-pallets (according to the video) for $12 each (assuming AUS) and according to a quick google search, a full size pallet costs 15-19 (AUS).
A milk crate costs 5-7 USD, this is basically the arse end of a milk crate. 7 USD is 11 AUS (according to google, officially 10.94).
If he gets an actual supply chain, due to it being basically a ready made piece of a product, and much smaller in size and material amount, he should be charging way less for this shit.
typical aussie shark tank:
enterpreuner: here's my fair dinkum new idea
sharks: (doesn't ask much questions) here's my offer mate
everyone's happy
"You dont get a hug" 😂🤣😂🤣 damn bro
Hugs the ladies real quick and nothing for andrew 🤣😂
Glenn was about to hug or shake the man but left hanging.
I like when the old mate says "its a Deal" i love it!
They should make a product that stops usps from kicking packages like footballs before delivery
Tipping a stack of boxes away from you a bit will allow a gap to slide a normal dolly under. But might not work with all goods. Years ago I made a version of this out of a piece of plywood and a couple pieces of scrap wood to move bags of fertilizer that the dolly would damage, works great.