This is legitimately the first time I've heard like pure frustration in Rai's voice towards the end of a video. As someone who has been on and off of Legends consistently since the beginning I completely understand where he comes from when he speaks about the short-sighted nature of many units dropping. Not just in terms of mechanics but the simple fact that if a unit doesn't have overloaded kits, then you'd have to put in if not triple, double the amount of effort to consistently achieve a victory and that's not counting how some people get rushes quickly or the over reliance on AOE green skills. Like even watching some other content creators I've seen people play more passively than the era of when MUI first dropped and people who have been around that time KNOWS how passive people liked to play due to the free damage counter gauge. Truly Legends is a cool game, but the balancing is so garbo that sometimes you can only go a few matches before you have to put it down and vibe to something else.
I’m just watch his video. Havent the play since ultra vegiblue. And it is so annoying seeing his opponents just vanish then aoe green. Like even I now when that person have green card just by the way they play. And my best was barely reach top 900.
@@Emilia-tan_Manji_TenshiYou’re lucky that you even got that high, the matchmaking goes all out to make sure you’re going on a losing streak, either by putting you against someone just way, way better than you, a way better team, or a team that hard stops yours
My go to team is always my Uni Rep setup with Bergamo and LF MVP 17. It usually depends on who I run in the leader slot like Goku Black or Godku or even Ultra UI. I just like having fun with the Uni Rep team a lot
It's very easy for me: Nowadays if you're not running the new units at high stars you're just an NPC in someone else's game whenever you do PvP. You can't use your cards, you can't switch, you can't dodge, you can't use your RR, you can't use your unique gauge, you can't even stand there and do nothing. You're just there for someone else to enjoy the game.
I totally agree with your vent in the beginning, as a f2p player, the last meta relevant unit I’ve gotten is the gohan in the anniversary. I’ve been constantly shafted since then. I haven’t played the game in days since I just can’t win in pvp, always losing to these teams that just run busted units. A game where you even get lucky or pay to get the best units it’s fun.
@HorribleMars I'm also f2p. The last unit I actually got on release is red beast gohan and currently the newest units I have are revival pikkon and nappa. I've just been using red whis, purple whis, and rev pikkon to green card spam and make the game kinda fun. I wish you luck bro
I agree with you Ray, 2024 has just been units dominating the game instead of tags (Excluding Buu Saga), like Super 17, Rathan, UG4, UMV, and probably the new ULTRA will absolutely put the Meta in a even worst spot. My solution for that is buffing other characters that we already have (LF 17 & 18, Future Gohan, GOGETA BLUE), so the players that have them can enjoy the game with a 2024 Kit, like CMZ and Kid Buu in the Anniversary, even LF Broly was fun to use.
@@bramos27mui is 7th anni ultra, if you think about it the headlining lf gets an ultra 3 anniversaries after the lf releases (super vegito 1-4th, vb 2-5th, g4 3-6th)
@@samirbelica2358Yeah plus it’s been a whole year without any Universe Reps buffs so I wouldn’t be surprised if 7th Anni has a lot of ToP U7 representation
I was having some fun with an annoying God Ki team. (I call it my “Can’t play the game” team) It’s Shin (seals strike and blast cards), Extreme Pur Vados (Tanks + Seals Rush, Main, and Green cards on entry for 5 counts), and Ultra UI Goku (Dodging everything) It’s really fun to see your opponent just stare at you cause they LITERALLY can’t do anything 😭 (This fees the best when fighting a Ultra Majin Vegeta and they use the blast Unique and stare at you in sadness cause they can’t immediately hit you with a blue.)
I'm so glad that Raiyuden throughout is usually cheery and a good sport in his videos. Cuz the vibes in this video is definitely different lol. Don't get me wrong, I love the other Legends RUclipsrs, but Raiyuden is JUST that guy.
I agree that it’s just been power-creep after power-creep in such a small span of time. It’s overstimulating in a bad way. They’re not even trying anymore to make things balanced
Ive been waiting for this video for a while now, my main team used to be UMV, Fusing GB, and Dragon Fist! But for now Im using new LF VB, new Mai, and CMZ. Theyre both really fun to run!
I remember when they implemented the leader slot, that’s when I feel the game changed a lot. The OG will remember when this game started we were only summoning to characters that were part of the saga or tag that we ran. Teams were not that overpowered cause while you had an unit that was broken the other two or one of them wasn’t so imo was very balanced. Now you leader slot MV with any team and they’ll carry the game for you
Its so cool to see people trying to have fun in this game! I've been running a green card spam with rev pikkon (He's just cool) to screw around and ive even seen some success. W Rai as usual
My go-to team is the sparking hercule/buu with the buu duo and the zenkai ssj3 with the unique equip. It’s always a pretty reliable team for me which makes it fun 👍
Hey Raiyuden, I love your vids and all that you do, specially since you are one of the most experienced players of this game and always analyze every new unit in a very farsighted way. I would love it if you published a video talking about what makes a character future proof and healthy for the meta, maybe with propositions of how the game could get better with characters that come out.
Rai, you're absolutely right. I feel like they do have some vision for the long-term, but they're going about it in a very weird, and frustrating direction. They're always trying to remove counter play, for whatever reason. When they reveal the unit, they tend to emphasize that the opponent can't do anything against the character. Even they know it!!! It's sad to see that they're terrible in the balancing department. Either the unit is completely busted, or just pure trash. Treeku and Turles should be used as examples on how to design their units. And to an extent, gotenks.
remove turles from the balanced units list, because damn, he was singlehandly making all matches go to time in his meta. pretty much unkillable, double card draw, insane dmg and punished you for killing him. he was all but balanced
6:26 Yea it feels very blah with Legends in general. Your vids help me with that tho because when I watch you play it makes me want to loI. I’ve been having quite a bit of fun using Frieza & Cell on different builds. The Almighty Light Cage is something else.
I know your pain. Thankfully for tanking I have some options since like cmz zenkai. Isn't the best, but is something I guess. This and doing some cover changes between vegito and black, usually is a good strat to stop combos.
I'm f2p, and i can't play pvp rn. I was surviving with majin buu's zenkai, on my powerful opponent set up, and then they dropped Majin Vegeta, and after that, they drop TBV, crazy right?, but i saved up to 19,7k cc so i'm just waiting for the Ultra to drop.
Im also f2p, the only new unit I pulled was the ultimate gohan in 6th anni. I’ve just ran him with the red beast from last year that I was lucky to get 7 stars with 3 zenkai buffs. Ended up one shotting an 8 star turles with a drop combo blue
I recommend Element counter if you are f2p I know, it doesn't really help much at least, Element counter can withstand some of the opponent's attacks in this meta.
I love how Gotenks got an important place on team composition, it is one of my favorite characters, I'm using him too on Fusions, Buu Saga and Hybrids, and he is great and important in every team
my current team is ultra turles, cmz, and kid buu and as a player who's only been playing for a little over a year, the game has changed drastically in 2024 ALONE. i thought UUI was broken but i had no idea units would become as busted as they are now. i personally am still having a lot of fun with the game regardless of the fact, but i will say that i don't know how long it will last if the developers keep going down this route of no long term plan and just dropping stuff out of nowhere.
There are several issues with the game and one huge one is definitely the fact that the devs don’t listen to the fanbase at all. They keep releasing these broken units in a pvp based game that aren’t fun at all and then those same units are usually so much better than the rest of the units in the game that it makes it hard to have any sort of team diversity because it’s a pvp game people are always going to use the team that will result in the most wins. And then to make matters worse they NEVER BRING BACK UNITS they always bring the same moldy-ass LF units that no one can use in pvp anymore because they’re just that old. They also don’t make it a habit to test the mechanics or new units that they release which leads to either really really broken characters like transforming Vegito blue or characters like yellow saiyan saga goku who was terrible on release. Not to mention hype releases like LF Z Broly who was not nearly as good as he should’ve been. It’s ridiculous that they can’t release competent units without making them too broken or too underwhelming. Regardless, this all stems from the fact that the dev team is truly inattentive and the people in charge only care about much money is being spent on their game and not about how much people actually enjoy their game.
You're 100 percent right I come on and off the game from time to time and I came back a few months ago all of my units are like from 2 to 3 years ago and everytime I go into ranked I just get slaughtered until I spent a bit of money or grinded to get UG4 and LF transforming VB but I hate that there is no diversity even for the players who want to run any team it's just no fun because they are like paper when the get attacked they need to do a pvp rework of some sort
Ultras killed the game Having a character that can do everything is so destructive to the game Why does Majin vegeta have a counter gauge, remove buffs on ults, AOE green card, destroy strike cards, lock green cards? Is there even a point even having other units if he can literally do everything to stop you from winning? The reason Ultras killed the game is caused the devs think every Ultra has to top the last one, Ultra Gogeta locked characters in and drew a second ult, Ultra Vegito can combo off of his cover change, Ultra blue Vegito nullifies endurance on rush, Ultra Frieza rewards the player for losing??? Its just so dumb, i wouldve taken a sparking with an intro than an Ultra
Well, this is the hyper-offensive meta we were worried about after briefly seeing the hyper-defensive one with Turles and Garlic JR. 2 characters with level 2 card draw speed is just dumb, especially considering all the defensive capabilities they have too
before the last match started toshi went up to your opponent and was like: "hey kid... you want some greens." but raiyuden really be going through his winter arc this season😂
I feel like PvP used to have a tell of when u were up against a really good player because now you can’t even tell anymore like when ur up against a full stack ultra team that are meta just to finish them off so easily and the only hits they got were from they’re unique gauge or whatever gimmic they got idk if it’s just me or other people get that too?
Hey Raiy I wanted to lyk that you have helped me get better at the game watching you for a while, and learning different teams, different kits, and just learn how to enjoy the game. Keep up the good wrk and I’ll keep grinding the game to reach to your level 😁
With new SOH plat that’s been leaked, I can use my fun/main team with SOH Mai and TVB. Future has been dead so I’m glad that my UVB doesn’t have to walk around with a cane carrying the team for the longest time now that some new units have arrived.
Raiyuden i am a absolute fan of your DBL content your pretty chill and give good detail into your builds and how you play i was able to learn so much more of DBL thanks to you!
ug4 and blue beast i feel are the 2 main releases that accelerated powercreep, i wouldnt be surprised if umv becomes irrelevant after the part 3 ultra releases
I ran UGB for so long and told myself I'd quit once I actually had to stop running him. Held through until UG4 released and all the yellow counters did as well, now you really need at least one meta unit to even have a chance in the higher ranks. Even though I had to drop UGB I will never stop running at least one DBS Broly movie character, so please give us that Gogeta Blue Zenkai already
My go-to team is the old team Blue Gohan Beast, Future Gohan and Pan, finally I get Future Gohan months ago and I use it for matches to get fun Now if is to compete my go-to team is Saiyan Team: Ultra UI, Gogeta Ssj 4 and Feet's Goku Support
I completely agree with you, this meta has been very frustrating over the last couple of months, I feels like every character they bring into the game is so broken to the point where you can’t do anything about it and it not ready for what else crazy stuff their going to release
I honestly can’t have any fun with any of my favorite units either because they’re power crept or they’re not meta enough, it honestly sucks because no matter how much I grind the games pull system sucks
Imagine how bad the meta is that it actually makes a pro player and content creator feel so bad about it, and feel just the same way we are feeling. This game is actually fucked. Thank you Rai, you've made me realise there's life out of this game. Fuck this I'm spending the last bit of cc I have and uninstalling
I think I am actually happy with the VB release, because he made the game feel competitive again(as long as you have him) instead of autoplay based. I mean, auto counters where you can combo in free damage was so boring and locked you into like 2 different team options, but with VB you can run multiple different teams now without having to be as worried about MV just full stopping your 2 card combo.
My current Fav Team is Turles, Treeku, and Golden Frieza, i do like that team and its really nice having double comebacks with Treeku for Disrupt and Cancelling Buffs. Definitely nice to have when dealing with MV or VB for sure. Just the Abundance of Greens to make Cards more expensive and just having some way to get more cards. Overall really good team synergy
as a f2p i literally don’t have enough cc’s to keep up with the meta ik you don’t need the best units to compete but the team ive been stuck with is ultra ui, pikgeta, and ugb and it blows
Legends devs have dug themselves into a hole with how they’re making this game. The only thing I can think of to maybe shake up metas, would be to revamp the boost system, just to get older units a fighting chance against these metas.
The Team I'm using right now is a purple purple red setup with Mai in leader, path to power Goku, and ultimate Gohan. I have a zenkai buff for both Goku and Gohan and I'm using the free to play Goku black (red) for the 34% blast damage and defense for Mai
My go to team has been the mono GRN sayian with LL Goku & Bardock,LL Pikkon and 6TH Anniversary SP Broly (Fury). Its very fun,and suprisingly,it has very good synergy.
Exactly what you said they don't have any long term plans for releasing units, they release a OP unit and then launch a direct OP counter to it and it goes on like a cycle. And there is no team building cuz they make support and defense units so trash they are unrunable and attack units have so much defense and healing ..... Also Why would they Introduce Assualt Chain if they would release they were releasing LLVB 6 months later they donot thing ahead
My fun team is mvp 17, Tag Gammas and red revival cell. Androids has been one of my favorite teams for a long time and I hope the tag androids get a zenkai relatively soon
16:02 i feel like they have to make new characters that can counter that like cause you are right. Everyone that has that green is going to use it, and i just feel they need to counter it cause its gone on to long without a true counter
I feel the SAME way as u man...j just remmeber the day that cover change was introduced, and the the day the first tag team characters came out...those sure were the times, but in all honesty this game 6+ years old to be able to get that far was already huge for them so i expected something like this was gonna happen, i knew it was gonna have a down period and this is it, but im sure it will go back up again(maybe when gogeta blue gets a zenkai).
The point of them releasing these characters isn’t for the longevity of the game but for the people who spend a butt load of money on the game to get these new op characters.
Easily my fun team is actually what I call my Homie Team. It's my favorite character Ultra Hit, with my best friends favorite characters of GoFrieza and Revive Pikkon. They may have no synergy together, but they can work together surprisingly well
For me my go to team is movies with Blue Beast, Orange Piccolo, and Ultra Janemba on the leader slot. Since pretty much all of my best units are movies, outside of me getting the new vegito and goku black 😭
I wish they'd just make more good but not broken units. The only problem with that is that they went too ham on the busted ones that most of the "just good" ones are just seen as mid instead and that's what I hate the most because it's too late to fix it like that.
Have been running that ssj3 team consisting of LF Green ssj3 goku, Red ssj3 goku, and Buu duo on ranked and love it but I might need to pivot to this team soon. Amazing stuff bro but sorry about the aoe greens
aoe green lock in,revival that takes ur ki and vanish,infinite combo,lock in ultimate,restore vanish,cancel buff,stupid amount of heal,counter gauge,what more. and btw all of this is on 3 character only
My go to team renewed in the anniversary, fusing gogeta, fusing vegito and leader slot could be either vegito blue ultra, gogeta ssj4 ultra or the new vegito we have rn, zenkai bench ofc is fusion warriors, i love their animation and i have fun playing it
Hello raiyuden i love your vids ive been trying to pull the buu bros and summoned on the gotenks banner and pulled both featured units instead of them😂
3:22 I completely agree rai, im a f2p and over the last months its been so bad for a f2p (from my experience) non stop shafts and tbh in this meta if you dont have any competent unit then your basically just ass, i havent gotten a good modern unit in a while and when i do i can only manage to pull them 1 time
I still love running the movies team with the gammas, red beast and rev piccolo/pikkon, but it really is a lot less fun to play legends. I hate that matches last very long even against unskilled players. Take UMV for example, even an inskilled player can just stall at long range and catch you with an AOE green and, even if you were to gain priority, you will eventually have to use a blast and be punished for it. And even if I do win the game it just doesn't feel good, instead I feel frustrated at having to deal with all those annoying mechanics during pvp.
The things you been saying raiyuden about all the missed being stacked on one another is soo true but what makes it worse is I’m a f2p player who can never even experience meta characters so all I use is buu bros cuz that’s basically all I can use I’ve played this game for a long time now I’m lv 427 and struggle getting gems I just wish they did stuff differently so I can enjoy the game
While i am abusing fusion/ future teams cuz i pulled the new vegito twice, but I normally main Uni rep with an ultra ui set up and a rotation between the different Top Lf zenkais. Sometimes i like jiren sometimes I like ui sign. When red mui zenkais that team will be so disgusting (I have him at 14*)
My Go-To team is always my vegeta clan team, I usually ran super vegeta, umv and either lf blh trunks or tag vegeta and trunks, and I glad they still buffing the vegeta clan with the new zenkai and f2p 😊
I'm in diamound, i meet only team with 0 synergy only characters with who dont need to play and its done. We dont have all the pleasure to do invocation on all characters but when a good character arrive, the next counter him. For me the pvp become a place or the guy wins is with the more cheat character
It's fine to express how you feel about a game and maybe take a break from the game to focus on something else that could help. Been on the same boat in another game I have been playing and recently nothing has changed and it's been frustrating and annoying and tiring. To the point I focus on other games more and explore my options to not be stuck in the same point and that sad and rough state anymore.
What im most annoyed is that buff cancel effects,almost every new character is now have it and adding salt to wound they have endurance which makes it game last longer
I'm not very good at the game but I enjoy it. Android 21 is my fav character by far and I never minded losing as it was still fun to play but anymore it feels terrible because I don't feel like I'm losing as much just cause they are a better player but because the new characters have such overloaded feeling kits.
The amount of time I have ran into ultra magin vegeta and ultra ss4 Gogeta and other characters like them. Makes the game so unfun it's hard to grind out some some festival coins or whatever because people are always I running these ultra God tier teams. Makes the game so unfun
It just feels like of you dont get the new shiny unit, you just dont get to play the game.
Plus, its not that fun when the new unit you just pulled is aged out in 2-3 months
Okay this is false
Thats by design. The game will never be fair for free to play. Thats not how these microtransaction games are.
It doesn't just feel like that, that's exactly how it is
@@joshsharpn you just didn't grind enough cc then.
Thank god we get more Buu saga buffs tommorow
We went nearly a month without them
Yeah I am missing that team so much😭
Almost a whole month ugh what would have happened with umv
@@apparentlybird_2661 damn umv would have been under top 15 by now
Could you tell me what buffs will mbs get tomorrow please? I didn't have the opportunity to keep up with the game since a month
@@santiagomelo4520 free angel Vegeta
Vegeta: We DB fans have no reading skills
Goku: Vegeta, let’s charge together with no reading comprehension
Lol 😂
True fact😂😂😂
imma be real the amount of times i've seen any gogeta/vegito character made me forget they canonically have a time limit lol
This is legitimately the first time I've heard like pure frustration in Rai's voice towards the end of a video. As someone who has been on and off of Legends consistently since the beginning I completely understand where he comes from when he speaks about the short-sighted nature of many units dropping. Not just in terms of mechanics but the simple fact that if a unit doesn't have overloaded kits, then you'd have to put in if not triple, double the amount of effort to consistently achieve a victory and that's not counting how some people get rushes quickly or the over reliance on AOE green skills. Like even watching some other content creators I've seen people play more passively than the era of when MUI first dropped and people who have been around that time KNOWS how passive people liked to play due to the free damage counter gauge. Truly Legends is a cool game, but the balancing is so garbo that sometimes you can only go a few matches before you have to put it down and vibe to something else.
I’m just watch his video. Havent the play since ultra vegiblue. And it is so annoying seeing his opponents just vanish then aoe green. Like even I now when that person have green card just by the way they play. And my best was barely reach top 900.
@@Emilia-tan_Manji_TenshiYou’re lucky that you even got that high, the matchmaking goes all out to make sure you’re going on a losing streak, either by putting you against someone just way, way better than you, a way better team, or a team that hard stops yours
My go to team is always my Uni Rep setup with Bergamo and LF MVP 17. It usually depends on who I run in the leader slot like Goku Black or Godku or even Ultra UI. I just like having fun with the Uni Rep team a lot
Playing the game how it should be
Dubs i finally found somebody that run uni rep 🗣️🗣️
BR30 type team
Bergamo🔥
@@benmetcalfe8162 lmfao
It's very easy for me: Nowadays if you're not running the new units at high stars you're just an NPC in someone else's game whenever you do PvP. You can't use your cards, you can't switch, you can't dodge, you can't use your RR, you can't use your unique gauge, you can't even stand there and do nothing. You're just there for someone else to enjoy the game.
I totally agree with your vent in the beginning, as a f2p player, the last meta relevant unit I’ve gotten is the gohan in the anniversary. I’ve been constantly shafted since then. I haven’t played the game in days since I just can’t win in pvp, always losing to these teams that just run busted units. A game where you even get lucky or pay to get the best units it’s fun.
@HorribleMars I'm also f2p. The last unit I actually got on release is red beast gohan and currently the newest units I have are revival pikkon and nappa. I've just been using red whis, purple whis, and rev pikkon to green card spam and make the game kinda fun. I wish you luck bro
Same dude same, last relevant unit I got is ult gohan from anni
I agree with you Ray, 2024 has just been units dominating the game instead of tags (Excluding Buu Saga), like Super 17, Rathan, UG4, UMV, and probably the new ULTRA will absolutely put the Meta in a even worst spot. My solution for that is buffing other characters that we already have (LF 17 & 18, Future Gohan, GOGETA BLUE), so the players that have them can enjoy the game with a 2024 Kit, like CMZ and Kid Buu in the Anniversary, even LF Broly was fun to use.
The meta will be gone if the ultra is MUI. Everybody will just stand there if his gauge is anything like the lf version
They should release plat equipments more frequently instead of once per month
@@bramos27mui is 7th anni ultra, if you think about it the headlining lf gets an ultra 3 anniversaries after the lf releases (super vegito 1-4th, vb 2-5th, g4 3-6th)
@@samirbelica2358Yeah plus it’s been a whole year without any Universe Reps buffs so I wouldn’t be surprised if 7th Anni has a lot of ToP U7 representation
I'm having a lot more fun with Tri-arena, I hope it will become a fixed mode in the future
it’s so much more fun than fusion spam plus majin vegeta
@@Aes01532they should choose unpopular tags
@ yeah like transformers warriors
@@Aes01532no
I was having some fun with an annoying God Ki team. (I call it my “Can’t play the game” team) It’s Shin (seals strike and blast cards), Extreme Pur Vados (Tanks + Seals Rush, Main, and Green cards on entry for 5 counts), and Ultra UI Goku (Dodging everything) It’s really fun to see your opponent just stare at you cause they LITERALLY can’t do anything 😭 (This fees the best when fighting a Ultra Majin Vegeta and they use the blast Unique and stare at you in sadness cause they can’t immediately hit you with a blue.)
I use Shin and Goku Black together because the abundance of disrupt I have with them together. And Vegito because you already know the answer
Thats a pretty good combo ngl
I instead for my god ki team run Shin, Goku Black and God Goku for funs
I'm so glad that Raiyuden throughout is usually cheery and a good sport in his videos. Cuz the vibes in this video is definitely different lol. Don't get me wrong, I love the other Legends RUclipsrs, but Raiyuden is JUST that guy.
I agree that it’s just been power-creep after power-creep in such a small span of time. It’s overstimulating in a bad way. They’re not even trying anymore to make things balanced
Did they ever?
@@joshsharpnup until start of 2nd anni if you were around by then
Ive been waiting for this video for a while now, my main team used to be UMV, Fusing GB, and Dragon Fist! But for now Im using new LF VB, new Mai, and CMZ. Theyre both really fun to run!
I remember when they implemented the leader slot, that’s when I feel the game changed a lot. The OG will remember when this game started we were only summoning to characters that were part of the saga or tag that we ran. Teams were not that overpowered cause while you had an unit that was broken the other two or one of them wasn’t so imo was very balanced.
Now you leader slot MV with any team and they’ll carry the game for you
Genuinely hearing you speak on how you feel about the game is actually pretty cool you should do it more often🙏🏽
Its so cool to see people trying to have fun in this game! I've been running a green card spam with rev pikkon (He's just cool) to screw around and ive even seen some success. W Rai as usual
My go-to team is the sparking hercule/buu with the buu duo and the zenkai ssj3 with the unique equip. It’s always a pretty reliable team for me which makes it fun 👍
Hey Raiyuden, I love your vids and all that you do, specially since you are one of the most experienced players of this game and always analyze every new unit in a very farsighted way. I would love it if you published a video talking about what makes a character future proof and healthy for the meta, maybe with propositions of how the game could get better with characters that come out.
Rai, you're absolutely right. I feel like they do have some vision for the long-term, but they're going about it in a very weird, and frustrating direction.
They're always trying to remove counter play, for whatever reason. When they reveal the unit, they tend to emphasize that the opponent can't do anything against the character. Even they know it!!! It's sad to see that they're terrible in the balancing department. Either the unit is completely busted, or just pure trash. Treeku and Turles should be used as examples on how to design their units. And to an extent, gotenks.
remove turles from the balanced units list, because damn, he was singlehandly making all matches go to time in his meta. pretty much unkillable, double card draw, insane dmg and punished you for killing him. he was all but balanced
6:26 Yea it feels very blah with Legends in general. Your vids help me with that tho because when I watch you play it makes me want to loI. I’ve been having quite a bit of fun using Frieza & Cell on different builds. The Almighty Light Cage is something else.
HAVE FUN DOWN THERE!
This meta is so bad for a f2p like me as i don't have any character to 14 stars and the vegito take so less damage and never stops combo
I know your pain. Thankfully for tanking I have some options since like cmz zenkai. Isn't the best, but is something I guess. This and doing some cover changes between vegito and black, usually is a good strat to stop combos.
I'm f2p, and i can't play pvp rn. I was surviving with majin buu's zenkai, on my powerful opponent set up, and then they dropped Majin Vegeta, and after that, they drop TBV, crazy right?, but i saved up to 19,7k cc so i'm just waiting for the Ultra to drop.
Im also f2p, the only new unit I pulled was the ultimate gohan in 6th anni. I’ve just ran him with the red beast from last year that I was lucky to get 7 stars with 3 zenkai buffs. Ended up one shotting an 8 star turles with a drop combo blue
I recommend Element counter if you are f2p I know, it doesn't really help much at least, Element counter can withstand some of the opponent's attacks in this meta.
No way bro forfeited at 8:45
I love how Gotenks got an important place on team composition, it is one of my favorite characters, I'm using him too on Fusions, Buu Saga and Hybrids, and he is great and important in every team
my current team is ultra turles, cmz, and kid buu
and as a player who's only been playing for a little over a year, the game has changed drastically in 2024 ALONE. i thought UUI was broken but i had no idea units would become as busted as they are now.
i personally am still having a lot of fun with the game regardless of the fact, but i will say that i don't know how long it will last if the developers keep going down this route of no long term plan and just dropping stuff out of nowhere.
10:58 Raiyuden was sweating here😂😂
There are several issues with the game and one huge one is definitely the fact that the devs don’t listen to the fanbase at all. They keep releasing these broken units in a pvp based game that aren’t fun at all and then those same units are usually so much better than the rest of the units in the game that it makes it hard to have any sort of team diversity because it’s a pvp game people are always going to use the team that will result in the most wins. And then to make matters worse they NEVER BRING BACK UNITS they always bring the same moldy-ass LF units that no one can use in pvp anymore because they’re just that old. They also don’t make it a habit to test the mechanics or new units that they release which leads to either really really broken characters like transforming Vegito blue or characters like yellow saiyan saga goku who was terrible on release. Not to mention hype releases like LF Z Broly who was not nearly as good as he should’ve been. It’s ridiculous that they can’t release competent units without making them too broken or too underwhelming. Regardless, this all stems from the fact that the dev team is truly inattentive and the people in charge only care about much money is being spent on their game and not about how much people actually enjoy their game.
You're 100 percent right I come on and off the game from time to time and I came back a few months ago all of my units are like from 2 to 3 years ago and everytime I go into ranked I just get slaughtered until I spent a bit of money or grinded to get UG4 and LF transforming VB but I hate that there is no diversity even for the players who want to run any team it's just no fun because they are like paper when the get attacked they need to do a pvp rework of some sort
Ultras killed the game
Having a character that can do everything is so destructive to the game
Why does Majin vegeta have a counter gauge, remove buffs on ults, AOE green card, destroy strike cards, lock green cards?
Is there even a point even having other units if he can literally do everything to stop you from winning?
The reason Ultras killed the game is caused the devs think every Ultra has to top the last one, Ultra Gogeta locked characters in and drew a second ult, Ultra Vegito can combo off of his cover change, Ultra blue Vegito nullifies endurance on rush, Ultra Frieza rewards the player for losing???
Its just so dumb, i wouldve taken a sparking with an intro than an Ultra
Well, this is the hyper-offensive meta we were worried about after briefly seeing the hyper-defensive one with Turles and Garlic JR.
2 characters with level 2 card draw speed is just dumb, especially considering all the defensive capabilities they have too
before the last match started toshi went up to your opponent and was like: "hey kid... you want some greens."
but raiyuden really be going through his winter arc this season😂
I feel like PvP used to have a tell of when u were up against a really good player because now you can’t even tell anymore like when ur up against a full stack ultra team that are meta just to finish them off so easily and the only hits they got were from they’re unique gauge or whatever gimmic they got idk if it’s just me or other people get that too?
Hey Raiy I wanted to lyk that you have helped me get better at the game watching you for a while, and learning different teams, different kits, and just learn how to enjoy the game. Keep up the good wrk and I’ll keep grinding the game to reach to your level 😁
My new go-to team is a full Vegito blue team. And surprisingly, the blue Vegito blue puts in work after the green one transforms.
With new SOH plat that’s been leaked, I can use my fun/main team with SOH Mai and TVB. Future has been dead so I’m glad that my UVB doesn’t have to walk around with a cane carrying the team for the longest time now that some new units have arrived.
Raiyuden i am a absolute fan of your DBL content your pretty chill and give good detail into your builds and how you play i was able to learn so much more of DBL thanks to you!
another fun team: frieza/cell (leader slotted), super baby 2 and cmz
Literally my main team atp
That last line from Raiy is my current feeling with the game too 😂
ug4 and blue beast i feel are the 2 main releases that accelerated powercreep, i wouldnt be surprised if umv becomes irrelevant after the part 3 ultra releases
I ran UGB for so long and told myself I'd quit once I actually had to stop running him.
Held through until UG4 released and all the yellow counters did as well, now you really need at least one meta unit to even have a chance in the higher ranks.
Even though I had to drop UGB I will never stop running at least one DBS Broly movie character, so please give us that Gogeta Blue Zenkai already
Also, its so sad watching the fusing GB LF when you compare it to the first one. First one's way better
My go-to team is the old team Blue Gohan Beast, Future Gohan and Pan, finally I get Future Gohan months ago and I use it for matches to get fun
Now if is to compete my go-to team is Saiyan Team: Ultra UI, Gogeta Ssj 4 and Feet's Goku Support
I completely agree with you, this meta has been very frustrating over the last couple of months, I feels like every character they bring into the game is so broken to the point where you can’t do anything about it and it not ready for what else crazy stuff their going to release
I honestly can’t have any fun with any of my favorite units either because they’re power crept or they’re not meta enough, it honestly sucks because no matter how much I grind the games pull system sucks
Imagine how bad the meta is that it actually makes a pro player and content creator feel so bad about it, and feel just the same way we are feeling. This game is actually fucked. Thank you Rai, you've made me realise there's life out of this game. Fuck this I'm spending the last bit of cc I have and uninstalling
I think I am actually happy with the VB release, because he made the game feel competitive again(as long as you have him) instead of autoplay based. I mean, auto counters where you can combo in free damage was so boring and locked you into like 2 different team options, but with VB you can run multiple different teams now without having to be as worried about MV just full stopping your 2 card combo.
My current Fav Team is Turles, Treeku, and Golden Frieza, i do like that team and its really nice having double comebacks with Treeku for Disrupt and Cancelling Buffs. Definitely nice to have when dealing with MV or VB for sure. Just the Abundance of Greens to make Cards more expensive and just having some way to get more cards. Overall really good team synergy
as a f2p i literally don’t have enough cc’s to keep up with the meta ik you don’t need the best units to compete but the team ive been stuck with is ultra ui, pikgeta, and ugb and it blows
That's not because you're a f2p, it's because you barely play the game at all
@@slatwansstays9322 yea i have other games to play not grinding a gacha game with enemies that 4/10 times have boo boo connection
@@skarle7 Pvp makes up 10% of f2p ccs. You just don't play the game at all man
Legends devs have dug themselves into a hole with how they’re making this game. The only thing I can think of to maybe shake up metas, would be to revamp the boost system, just to get older units a fighting chance against these metas.
The Team I'm using right now is a purple purple red setup with Mai in leader, path to power Goku, and ultimate Gohan. I have a zenkai buff for both Goku and Gohan and I'm using the free to play Goku black (red) for the 34% blast damage and defense for Mai
My go to team has been the mono GRN sayian with LL Goku & Bardock,LL Pikkon and 6TH Anniversary SP Broly (Fury).
Its very fun,and suprisingly,it has very good synergy.
NGL Rai's commentary against UMV might be the best I've experienced
Exactly what you said they don't have any long term plans for releasing units, they release a OP unit and then launch a direct OP counter to it and it goes on like a cycle.
And there is no team building cuz they make support and defense units so trash they are unrunable and attack units have so much defense and healing ..... Also Why would they Introduce Assualt Chain if they would release they were releasing LLVB 6 months later they donot thing ahead
Glad to see you having fun Rai :)
My fun team is mvp 17, Tag Gammas and red revival cell. Androids has been one of my favorite teams for a long time and I hope the tag androids get a zenkai relatively soon
I'm still running LOE in this day and age 😂
16:02 i feel like they have to make new characters that can counter that like cause you are right. Everyone that has that green is going to use it, and i just feel they need to counter it cause its gone on to long without a true counter
I swear it feels like you get MORE greens whenever you have the new characters
I feel the SAME way as u man...j just remmeber the day that cover change was introduced, and the the day the first tag team characters came out...those sure were the times, but in all honesty this game 6+ years old to be able to get that far was already huge for them so i expected something like this was gonna happen, i knew it was gonna have a down period and this is it, but im sure it will go back up again(maybe when gogeta blue gets a zenkai).
I’ve been running buu bros so much I just made them my favorite character
The point of them releasing these characters isn’t for the longevity of the game but for the people who spend a butt load of money on the game to get these new op characters.
Easily my fun team is actually what I call my Homie Team. It's my favorite character Ultra Hit, with my best friends favorite characters of GoFrieza and Revive Pikkon. They may have no synergy together, but they can work together surprisingly well
For me my go to team is movies with Blue Beast, Orange Piccolo, and Ultra Janemba on the leader slot. Since pretty much all of my best units are movies, outside of me getting the new vegito and goku black 😭
I wish they'd just make more good but not broken units. The only problem with that is that they went too ham on the busted ones that most of the "just good" ones are just seen as mid instead and that's what I hate the most because it's too late to fix it like that.
Have been running that ssj3 team consisting of LF Green ssj3 goku, Red ssj3 goku, and Buu duo on ranked and love it but I might need to pivot to this team soon. Amazing stuff bro but sorry about the aoe greens
I wish they gave Buu bros Cancel Buff effects they would've paired Up so well with Gotenks & Ultimate Gohan
aoe green lock in,revival that takes ur ki and vanish,infinite combo,lock in ultimate,restore vanish,cancel buff,stupid amount of heal,counter gauge,what more. and btw all of this is on 3 character only
My go to team renewed in the anniversary, fusing gogeta, fusing vegito and leader slot could be either vegito blue ultra, gogeta ssj4 ultra or the new vegito we have rn, zenkai bench ofc is fusion warriors, i love their animation and i have fun playing it
tbh the balanced units like omega and super baby 2 got overshadowed by the overpowered metas we were in wished they had more of the spotlight
this has also caused the problem of people leaving after their one overpowered character dies my games hardly last when i get one kill
My go to team is Rathan + GT. Make sure he is in the leader slot though, to counter the meta units
i feel like at this point they should make a fusion unit that after like 50 timer counts defuses and becomes a tag switch unit
Hello raiyuden i love your vids ive been trying to pull the buu bros and summoned on the gotenks banner and pulled both featured units instead of them😂
My go to is rival uni... Hit , kyawei , jiren 😅😅... I like it..
3:22
I completely agree rai, im a f2p and over the last months its been so bad for a f2p (from my experience) non stop shafts and tbh in this meta if you dont have any competent unit then your basically just ass, i havent gotten a good modern unit in a while and when i do i can only manage to pull them 1 time
Im not even a bad player too its just all the insane things these modern units can do rn i can only fight with UNI REP evoken gofrieza and ui goku
Ngl I agree but dang hopefully u get lucky
I still love running the movies team with the gammas, red beast and rev piccolo/pikkon, but it really is a lot less fun to play legends.
I hate that matches last very long even against unskilled players.
Take UMV for example, even an inskilled player can just stall at long range and catch you with an AOE green and, even if you were to gain priority, you will eventually have to use a blast and be punished for it.
And even if I do win the game it just doesn't feel good, instead I feel frustrated at having to deal with all those annoying mechanics during pvp.
imagine a mono blue team using buu bros, goku and bardock tag and fusion super vgtto in one team... please mr raiyuden, i need to see this 😶🌫️🤧
the amount of exhausion from aoe green cards in this clip is insane
DISCLAIMER: just realized cell and frieza can stop transcendent mode. I hate this game
The things you been saying raiyuden about all the missed being stacked on one another is soo true but what makes it worse is I’m a f2p player who can never even experience meta characters so all I use is buu bros cuz that’s basically all I can use I’ve played this game for a long time now I’m lv 427 and struggle getting gems I just wish they did stuff differently so I can enjoy the game
While i am abusing fusion/ future teams cuz i pulled the new vegito twice, but I normally main Uni rep with an ultra ui set up and a rotation between the different Top Lf zenkais. Sometimes i like jiren sometimes I like ui sign. When red mui zenkais that team will be so disgusting
(I have him at 14*)
My Go-To team is always my vegeta clan team, I usually ran super vegeta, umv and either lf blh trunks or tag vegeta and trunks, and I glad they still buffing the vegeta clan with the new zenkai and f2p 😊
I feel ya Raiyuden. I feel ya
Gotenks is all rounder unit...glad i summoned ok this guy
My main team for festival is Super 17, Ultra kid buu, Lf Omega shenron and the zenkais are Red Lf vegeta, Lf fused zamasu and Lf kid buu
the ssj3 team is crazy i want old yel gogeta revisit before his zenkai i am asking for it from a long time
Team i have the most fun with is a PO team with apegeta ,napgeta and pur zenkai turles not the strongest but nice to work with
I'm in diamound, i meet only team with 0 synergy only characters with who dont need to play and its done. We dont have all the pleasure to do invocation on all characters but when a good character arrive, the next counter him. For me the pvp become a place or the guy wins is with the more cheat character
Hearing Rai’s small rant about the current state of the game really checks you back to the reality of what’s been going on with Legends recently 😕
its been 3 year that i feel like that raiyu
It's fine to express how you feel about a game and maybe take a break from the game to focus on something else that could help. Been on the same boat in another game I have been playing and recently nothing has changed and it's been frustrating and annoying and tiring. To the point I focus on other games more and explore my options to not be stuck in the same point and that sad and rough state anymore.
Go to team will stay Vegeta family with no Majins allowed
Purple Sparking Super Buu could be part of the MBS team if you want…
SoH Trunks is supposed to get a plat equip now…so ima try to run him with the new vegito and mai that team might be fun
What im most annoyed is that buff cancel effects,almost every new character is now have it and adding salt to wound they have endurance which makes it game last longer
You can blame Super Vegito and Ssj4 Gogeta for that.
Another fantastic vedio keeping bro❤❤
I 100 percent agree with u on the state of legends I have played since day 1 but feel like I may be done😢
My go go team is a android team with mvp 17 leader, gammas lf and android 18 f2p
I wanna know from your standpoint, what were the 5 least toxic releases post 6 anni (lfs/ultras)
I'm not very good at the game but I enjoy it. Android 21 is my fav character by far and I never minded losing as it was still fun to play but anymore it feels terrible because I don't feel like I'm losing as much just cause they are a better player but because the new characters have such overloaded feeling kits.
The amount of time I have ran into ultra magin vegeta and ultra ss4 Gogeta and other characters like them. Makes the game so unfun it's hard to grind out some some festival coins or whatever because people are always I running these ultra God tier teams. Makes the game so unfun
Shin, Godku, whatever unit i feel like using in the leader slot (currently lf transforming Goku black)