Tasmanian Trains where are they now ? Forgotten Tasmania Episode 302
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2022
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Tasmania once had passenger steam trains and an active railway system, but we gave it up. Today, there are a few freight trains and no regular passenger services. Why? What happened? Why did we give them up? I go on a trip around the state with train buff, Rowan Kinnane, to identify the trains featured in the Beattie photos and find out what became of them all. We visit the Don River Railway, the Tasmanian Transport Museum, Queen Victoria Museum Launceston and a few parks, playgrounds and paddocks, in search of the lost locomotives.
You can see Rowan's channel here;
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Music by Epidemic Sound
We certainly need passenger trains back now. Even one a between Hobart, Launceston Burnie at least. It was so short sighted to get rid of them.
Absolutely!
Trains are the most efficient transport mode, and Tasmania can use a mixture of transit and active travel to solve so many problems!
There's a channel called "Not Just Bikes" which shows some of the benefits.
I missed the Steam train that used to run through Deloraine carrying passengers for a “special” they used to fill the engine up at the river near our house! All I remember is that it was a green tender engine. This was about 21 years ago, I was 2!
And Wynyard, that could be possible. Plus, they all are connected by rail already
If you come to Victoria you can find some of the Tasman Limited rolling stock in use on the Bellarine railway at Queenscliff. I think they might use it for the Blues Train.
You are creating a love letter to the past, please keep creating content John. I'm loving this channel, I already have the Beattie book, many 100's of Beattie Studios family portraits (my nanna was from Forest near Smithton), and understand you're the best custodian this historic collection could have. Well done you. $0.02
My Great Grand Father, William West, was the first person to drive a train between Launceston and Hobart. That is the A Class that was in Launceston City Park, now at the Don. He was also the undefeated heavy weight champion of Tasmania but declined an invite to fight for the Australian title. He did not want to go to Melbourne for fear he might loose his job with the railway
So many things can be learnt from the forgotten past for a better future.
Hopefully one day they will use the existing rail corridor from Hobart to the northern suburbs for a passenger train as it was up to 1974.
I have fond memories of playing on the train at City Park as a kid. Sad to hear it's now in pieces.
I’m sure the Don will restore it. They just need some boilermakers. Spread the word, Tasmania is a great place to live. Maybe we can attract some retirees.
i enquired about Q5 many years ago and nobody has ever fully examined it for a possible return to running order. ok TTMS has a small budget but its a shame she'll probably live as a static display and with the recent ripping up of short section at Granton in preparation for the new Bridgewater Bridge her and all of TTMS's rolling stock will be stranded and may never run on the main line below the Bridgewater station. i'd say shocking display of Heritage negligence not just to the Hobart line but severed access to the network.
R class, so similar to the Victorian Railways S Class locomotive!
TGR's rolling stock was all so beautiful. My favourite locomotives in the world
EBR had some great locomotives too. The dubs and Co locos Heemskirk and Murchison are gorgeous
This is one of my favorite episodes. Well done and great research.
Thank you so much for yet another amazing video. I'm learning so much about Tasmanian history.
With Hydro, Tasmania should run a mainline Hobart to Launceston, then Launceston to Burnie or further. (Stops in between). I think it's ridiculous this isn't happening. If not electric, what about the Bombardier Velocity trains??? They are giving great service to Victoria.
What a fantastic video, word on the wire is the Don River Railway are looking to access the Main Line for tours - I wish them all the best success.
Another winner..................thanks for all you do my friend!!!
Fascinating production mate, well done 👍
As always, great work John. Thank you
it was years before my time but i feel like passenger trains are more needed in Tasmania now than it was decades ago. imagine how useful they would be to get to around Tasmania. transport to go long distance kinda sucks and its painful. just say if a footy game is in Launceston or Hobart. i would have no problem going on a train instead of driving up... don't need trams though anymore.. tassie is small and it would only just feel crowded on the road. don't know how people could put up with it in the 50s. Lol
Such a great video! Well done and thank you for documenting the history of our railways. I actually attended the old Claremont Primary School near the Cadbury factory. We used to do our Cross Country runs along that old track, and I had no idea that was an old branch line. That's such a cool thing to know, and I would have loved to have known that as a kid, as I was quite the train enthusiast back then
Another very professional production, good stuff.
Outstanding video.
Much enjoyed.
Great video, really enjoying your channel!
I've been on Ida Bay, Sheffield, and Don River rail, just Strahan to Queenstown to go
Great video, would be great to have a video on the Hobart northern suburbs line, it’s stations and the trains that operated on it
There is steam engines still but on there own railways ohe was called the don river valley railway in Devonport and then one was called the west coast wilderness railway
Really, people should’ve stood up and made the passenger trains in tassie go the way of the Fremantle line in WA, closed by economic rationalists, but reopened by public opposition!
Still, at least Tassie has its heritage rail, and a vast amount at that!
I can tell you TASMANIA by alouding to shut the old steam train to stop running is one of a hell mistake you will regret one day
Great video.
Bit bias towards steam stuff though. History didnt stop when steam stopped, i thought the Tasman Limited would of got a BIG mention as it was the most famous train service in tasmania history, still a great video non the less
Hi Kyle. Yes I agree. I would have loved to make this a much longer video. So much good stuff that just didn’t make it in. Thanks for watching.
@@ForgottenTasmania ill give you that, non the less great work
A former well known Tasmanian Government Railway's Driver years ago described diesel locomotives as mobile beds one slept, one drove, that is before driver only..
In tas we still have trains but there not for passengers they r know used for coal and stuff whatever the r doing. But i know we definitely do still have trains, at the vet out the window if I'm lucky I'll see a train and hear it to. And margate train used to be a train but now it is a shop place. ❤
We actually might get passenger trains there thinking about it.
I really don't think it was changing hands that killed Tasmanian passenger train services. More like, especially after straightening and bypassing towns, the two hours by car to drive from Hobart to Launceston v's an all day train ride. Still worth using the whole network for tourist trains. They go off here in Victoria, where Steamrail Victoria and 707 Operations Inc frequently run day and multi day steam and diesel tourism train trips, sometimes together. There is about 10 other tourist train operators here. Tasmania has, what, five? and only the West Coast Wilderness Railway goes on more than a private short line of under 2km, or a reserved section of main line like Don and Glenorchy. Plenty of opportunity, especially for Glenorchy now that no rail traffic passes the Brighton Hub.
Yes. The car was always the prime suspect in the death of rail. I do think it’s complicated. And yes, oh for a well funded tourism operator to do something wonderful with our heritage railways.
@@ForgottenTasmania Steam rail from Hobart to the north west. I believe there used to be a branch line part way down the north west coast somewhere. Imagine that, Up the Midlands, North West, and back down the west part way in a two night steam train ride.
This was cool. Any idea if the Ida Bay tourist railway is coming back?
Great work, I'm glad we can agree that every ounce of steel in tasmania was imported on wooden boats, I'll start with the first question.
How much steel was imported.
I'm guessing around one million tonnes, of finished steel, railway spikes, track, locomotives, carriages ,everything came over on wooden boats,
And not imported from the mainland, as there was no steel production until 1901,
So, it came from England,
What's you're guess on the steel tonneage delivered to tasmania on wooden boats before the state could produce its own steel?
Hi Kane, when you think about it like that, it’s an amazing feat. Sea transport (shipping) must have been an incredible enterprise. We are so spoiled now with these things just going on around us, mostly out of sight, that it is so hard to comprehend…for me anyway.
@ForgottenTasmania thanks mate, I don't mean to come across as a jerk, I appreciate your work tremendously,
My current position is that there was already a civilisation in Australia, possibly for a few centuries before 1788
It's as loopy as it gets, I know that, but it's just a theory, and I don't hold myself to it.
The early 1800s is where everything began, apparently.
But the buildings and construction quality defy this narrative to me.
The short time frame construction narratives are exactly the same across the main land , and indeed, the world, something happened in the past (200 plus years)that allowed a slow overwrite of history to fit the time frame.
It is intriguing and interesting.
Fascinating, really.
Cheers
Any info on the train in Deloraine?
there is a M class in Vic along with 2 X class diesels a 1100 class a ZA diesel soon too be 2 and tons of carriages
I was just talking to Rowan about this today! I suspect he will cover those on his channel.
@@ForgottenTasmania nice I volunteer for the railway that has them oh and I forgot to mention that we also have two V class shunting diesels as well
Bellarine is getting Z classes, not ZA's. The first one is already there, the second arrives next week.
Are you the same John Stevenson that used to live next to Taroona High ?
Only if you’re the same Paul that used to have an Exidy Sorcerer.