Hi Sabrina, just returned (4 hours ago) from my 3rd trip to Buenos Aires and back in Canada. I had every intention of contacting you to treat you to lunch and pick your brain about moving to and finding an apartment in Buenos Aires. What an amazing city you now call home. Of course, I was so enchanted with San Telmo, Monserrat, Antiguo Puerto Madero by just wandering and exploring the streets, I didn't actually do anything constructive. I did look at real estate agents' windows that were advertising places to get an idea of rentals. And there were so many rental signs on buildings. Thanks for this vid; it helps so much. On my next trip I should visit barrios outside of central Buenos Aires and still try to treat you to lunch. Wow! just got beeped by Dollar Blue; it's now 1.300,00. New record.
Very valuable information. I empathize with the folks that now have to deal with rapid increases in rents. Hopefully in the not too distant future prices will adjust downward to reflect the reality of a working salaries in Argentina.... But in the meantime this is very difficult time for folks wanting a roof over their head.
I'm glad you found the video insightful! Yes, this is a very difficult time for everyone in the country, I do hope that whatever changes are going on are for the best in the long term. I don't remember prices being THIS unaffordable for locals when I had just gotten to the country.
hola sabrina, aqui venezolano que emigrara a argentina, dijiste que antes de llegar a arg, pagaste parte de la renta en un alquiler antes de haber viajado, exactamente como fue eso? que metodo de pago? te dio algun comprobante el dueño del alquiler para mostrar en migracion y mostrar que ya tendras donde quedarte al llegar?
I will definitely be looking forward to another apt video. Prices are very similar to prices in Italy, but the minimum average salary here is about 1200 euros. These people are NUTS 😂
I had thought if the criminal Trump were to ever be president again I would consider Italy as a place to go to get out of the US, but that is also why I am looking at BA. I had a friend that lived in Argentina for many years. I did not know that the salaries in Italy start at Euro 1,200. I was just wondering this morning if I could get by on my pension of $5,040 per month. Today that is about Euro 4,670. It would be about ArPeso 61,000,000 at today's exchange rate according to Cuex.
Goodness gracious. The apartments in BA are terrible. I guess that's what happens when the government creates regulations that make it unprofitable for landlords to ever remodel their units. Most of those units look like something from USSR in the 1970s. And the prices are super expensive relative to local wages.
Can you make a new video about the cost of living in argentina in 2024? I am interested in moving there. The world is getting expensive everywhere I want to see if there is better options in argentina.
You mentioned that you have a dog. Do you find that rental places are mostly dog friendly there, or not? The prices don't sound particularly cheap compared to other South American towns and the rental terms there sound complicated and way too long term. I think groceries sound cheaper there though. Thanks!
Hi there! How exactly do you mean dog friendly? If you mean whether the apartment complex has a specific area for dogs, most apartments wouldn't have that, but I imagine it's because the city itself has spaces in parks that are dedicated for dogs to play and socialize and there are parks all over the city. I would agree that rental prices are not particularly cheap here especially in the last few months, however, the requirements seem to be pretty standard compared to how difficult it is to rent in other countries as well, or at least that's the impression that I get from speaking to friends in other countries!
@@sabrinahuyke I mean, how hard is it if you have small dogs (yes - plural!) to rent a place there. Is it easy to find a place? And the 3 year thing sounds insane - way too long - but apparently there's places that are furnished to rent for 3-6 months that are easier to get into. I suppose with these 'shorter term' places - the owners are happy to rent that way cause they can then adjust their prices when the agreement runs out rather than waiting for a full year.
Main ideas are. In Buenos Aires capital there are mainly 3 options: long term (2 or 3 year contract), short term (3 or 6 months contract) or temporary (daily,weekly stays for tourists). Long term rentals have more requirements and are almost imposible to get in as a foreigner unless you have a friend/connection who owns property in Argentina and will co-sign the lease with you. Long term rentals are usually unfurnished. Short term are usually 3 or 6 months contracts and usually furnished. On both of these options they update the rent either every 3 or 6 months as well according to that index which is total BS because they change the rento to whatever they want. Usually you have to pay for both options: 1st month and 1 month deposit minimum. However, for short term you'll have to pay the agents fee which should be 20% of the whole contract in rent, but some ask for 1 complete month of rent. It's insanity! That extra month is lost money. Some sketchy agents ask for 2 months deposit, don't give into that. In terms of paperwork: For short term rentals you only need to prove you have enough to pay the rent by showing past money transfers or your bank accpunt statement. However I've had agents asking me for the whole 3 or 6 months rent in advance, again, don't go for that. Most landlords don't accept pets and a lot don't accept children. In sum, for short term you are lookong at a more than 1k and even 2.3k just to stay the first night. That's my experience. So good luck my friends. It's cheaper to stay at airbnbs than to do the short term nonsense...
I imagine the 'random pillars' are structural supports for the floors above 😄. Really, you'd be better off looking in a neighborhood that's not the most expensive in the city, but I guess that's a 'me' thing... good luck with the hunt!
They don't disclose all the the requirements for the apartment for rent so that will give them the liberty to profile protential renters. So if they don't like you they will put all these requirements/obsticles to prevent your from renting. If they like you then they can waive some or all the requirements.
What kind of "property" do the landlords expect as a collateral, or rental deposit? An American coming to stay, what could they put up other than cash? In the US we have serious problems with property managers simply taking your deposits which can be a couple thousand dollars then giving specious reasons for taking your money, and daring you to sue them which would cost more than the deposit was worth. If I do damage over and above normal wear and tear as it is called here, I expect to pay for that, but to have a lot of money just taken because they know they can get away with it really makes me angry. I am surprised the tenant does not return and do that much actual damage so the managers do not profit from their theft.
Usually the property they want as collateral is either another apartment or house or something of that sort. But this type of "warranty" and the deposits are separate issues, you will still have to place a deposit even if you have a property. And if you don't have a property, you will have to buy rental insurance along with placing a deposit. So the issue around the deposit is a bit of a weird thing here. I've only ever gotten part of one deposit returned to me and the landlord looked for any sort of excuse to deduct things from it. Then I rescinded one my contracts before the date and the clause in the contract said that I would also be giving up the deposit. From my latest move, I didn't really bother claiming the deposit because inflation had made it insignificant and the apartment needed painting. Now that landlords and rental companies are asking for deposits in dollars directly it might be a different subject. It is unfair and a bit infuriating, but whether you fight for the deposit or not will be a highly personal decision.
@@sabrinahuyke I imagine the guarantia of another property is a relic from a time when it was nearly impossible to evict someone. Now with the new laws, (or lack of laws protecting tenants) perhaps this will go away?
I’m from Los Angeles, California and I make $4K per month. I came down to Argentina in October 2022. I live in Capital Federal. Recoleta is trash bunch of old people frowned up looking constipated. Retiro is trash, too many tourists and a lot dangerous drunk homeless men lurking. Palermo is the closes to reminding me of a trendy Echo Park lifestyle in Los Angeles but the other upscale areas like Recoleta is boring to me. A local girl recommended San Ysidro so I may move to that area or Mar del Plata.
If - > I am hearing you correctly - inflation is terrible since the - 'deregulation' ? --- In other words - it's not really 'cheap' ! (My 2 br apartment in the US is $725/mo. in 2024) --- I would much prefer a modest frugal and thrifty studio - CHEAP ! --- Are those in great demand or are those plentiful (?) because few people want them ??? = Simple question. Near good food and people who speak 'some' English. --?-- 🤗
@@SenorJuan2023 When Trump is elected again, it's obvious why you will be either arrested or forced to leave...crime doesn't pay, better to be honest and obey the law.
Interesting that a Venezuelan, socialist society, lives in a Argentina, transitioning from socialism to a newly capitalist society and doesn’t think a free market is “sustainable” 😂😂 how is it possible
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Hi Sabrina, just returned (4 hours ago) from my 3rd trip to Buenos Aires and back in Canada. I had every intention of contacting you to treat you to lunch and pick your brain about moving to and finding an apartment in Buenos Aires. What an amazing city you now call home. Of course, I was so enchanted with San Telmo, Monserrat, Antiguo Puerto Madero by just wandering and exploring the streets, I didn't actually do anything constructive. I did look at real estate agents' windows that were advertising places to get an idea of rentals. And there were so many rental signs on buildings. Thanks for this vid; it helps so much. On my next trip I should visit barrios outside of central Buenos Aires and still try to treat you to lunch.
Wow! just got beeped by Dollar Blue; it's now 1.300,00. New record.
Very helpful video Sabrina. It deserves wider viewing.
Thank you for your kind words and support, it means the world! 😄
excelente gracias! no fluff, the most realistic person vlogging en BA en cualquier idioma, apreciado.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy the videos!
Very valuable information. I empathize with the folks that now have to deal with rapid increases in rents. Hopefully in the not too distant future prices will adjust downward to reflect the reality of a working salaries in Argentina.... But in the meantime this is very difficult time for folks wanting a roof over their head.
I'm glad you found the video insightful! Yes, this is a very difficult time for everyone in the country, I do hope that whatever changes are going on are for the best in the long term. I don't remember prices being THIS unaffordable for locals when I had just gotten to the country.
hola sabrina, aqui venezolano que emigrara a argentina, dijiste que antes de llegar a arg, pagaste parte de la renta en un alquiler antes de haber viajado, exactamente como fue eso? que metodo de pago? te dio algun comprobante el dueño del alquiler para mostrar en migracion y mostrar que ya tendras donde quedarte al llegar?
I will definitely be looking forward to another apt video. Prices are very similar to prices in Italy, but the minimum average salary here is about 1200 euros. These people are NUTS 😂
I had thought if the criminal Trump were to ever be president again I would consider Italy as a place to go to get out of the US, but that is also why I am looking at BA. I had a friend that lived in Argentina for many years. I did not know that the salaries in Italy start at Euro 1,200. I was just wondering this morning if I could get by on my pension of $5,040 per month. Today that is about Euro 4,670. It would be about ArPeso 61,000,000 at today's exchange rate according to Cuex.
@@bluebook709 You can definitely live comfortably with that amount of money here. For reference, I live in Turin, north of Italy.
Escribano would be notary in English.
The bit about Barrio norte and Palermo and Caballito being vague areas is so true. Funny.
"Vague" areas? What does that mean?
@ Not defined in a map. Real estate ads are creative about location.
Goodness gracious. The apartments in BA are terrible. I guess that's what happens when the government creates regulations that make it unprofitable for landlords to ever remodel their units. Most of those units look like something from USSR in the 1970s. And the prices are super expensive relative to local wages.
Can you make a new video about the cost of living in argentina in 2024? I am interested in moving there. The world is getting expensive everywhere I want to see if there is better options in argentina.
You mentioned that you have a dog. Do you find that rental places are mostly dog friendly there, or not? The prices don't sound particularly cheap compared to other South American towns and the rental terms there sound complicated and way too long term. I think groceries sound cheaper there though. Thanks!
Hi there! How exactly do you mean dog friendly? If you mean whether the apartment complex has a specific area for dogs, most apartments wouldn't have that, but I imagine it's because the city itself has spaces in parks that are dedicated for dogs to play and socialize and there are parks all over the city. I would agree that rental prices are not particularly cheap here especially in the last few months, however, the requirements seem to be pretty standard compared to how difficult it is to rent in other countries as well, or at least that's the impression that I get from speaking to friends in other countries!
@@sabrinahuyke I mean, how hard is it if you have small dogs (yes - plural!) to rent a place there. Is it easy to find a place? And the 3 year thing sounds insane - way too long - but apparently there's places that are furnished to rent for 3-6 months that are easier to get into. I suppose with these 'shorter term' places - the owners are happy to rent that way cause they can then adjust their prices when the agreement runs out rather than waiting for a full year.
Main ideas are. In Buenos Aires capital there are mainly 3 options: long term (2 or 3 year contract), short term (3 or 6 months contract) or temporary (daily,weekly stays for tourists). Long term rentals have more requirements and are almost imposible to get in as a foreigner unless you have a friend/connection who owns property in Argentina and will co-sign the lease with you. Long term rentals are usually unfurnished. Short term are usually 3 or 6 months contracts and usually furnished. On both of these options they update the rent either every 3 or 6 months as well according to that index which is total BS because they change the rento to whatever they want. Usually you have to pay for both options: 1st month and 1 month deposit minimum. However, for short term you'll have to pay the agents fee which should be 20% of the whole contract in rent, but some ask for 1 complete month of rent. It's insanity! That extra month is lost money. Some sketchy agents ask for 2 months deposit, don't give into that. In terms of paperwork: For short term rentals you only need to prove you have enough to pay the rent by showing past money transfers or your bank accpunt statement. However I've had agents asking me for the whole 3 or 6 months rent in advance, again, don't go for that. Most landlords don't accept pets and a lot don't accept children. In sum, for short term you are lookong at a more than 1k and even 2.3k just to stay the first night. That's my experience. So good luck my friends. It's cheaper to stay at airbnbs than to do the short term nonsense...
@@anitius101 Wow - great information! Thanks so much!!
I imagine the 'random pillars' are structural supports for the floors above 😄. Really, you'd be better off looking in a neighborhood that's not the most expensive in the city, but I guess that's a 'me' thing... good luck with the hunt!
They don't disclose all the the requirements for the apartment for rent so that will give them the liberty to profile protential renters. So if they don't like you they will put all these requirements/obsticles to prevent your from renting. If they like you then they can waive some or all the requirements.
What kind of "property" do the landlords expect as a collateral, or rental deposit? An American coming to stay, what could they put up other than cash? In the US we have serious problems with property managers simply taking your deposits which can be a couple thousand dollars then giving specious reasons for taking your money, and daring you to sue them which would cost more than the deposit was worth. If I do damage over and above normal wear and tear as it is called here, I expect to pay for that, but to have a lot of money just taken because they know they can get away with it really makes me angry. I am surprised the tenant does not return and do that much actual damage so the managers do not profit from their theft.
Usually the property they want as collateral is either another apartment or house or something of that sort. But this type of "warranty" and the deposits are separate issues, you will still have to place a deposit even if you have a property. And if you don't have a property, you will have to buy rental insurance along with placing a deposit.
So the issue around the deposit is a bit of a weird thing here. I've only ever gotten part of one deposit returned to me and the landlord looked for any sort of excuse to deduct things from it. Then I rescinded one my contracts before the date and the clause in the contract said that I would also be giving up the deposit. From my latest move, I didn't really bother claiming the deposit because inflation had made it insignificant and the apartment needed painting.
Now that landlords and rental companies are asking for deposits in dollars directly it might be a different subject. It is unfair and a bit infuriating, but whether you fight for the deposit or not will be a highly personal decision.
@@sabrinahuyke I imagine the guarantia of another property is a relic from a time when it was nearly impossible to evict someone. Now with the new laws, (or lack of laws protecting tenants) perhaps this will go away?
They still want proof of income when it's that cheap?
Yes! Because those prices are not particularly cheap for locals here, they are actually pretty difficult to afford!
@@sabrinahuyke In the USA, they don't ask for proof of income, but will pull a credit report.
The thing is… if you don’t pay the rent, it is not that easy to evict you in Argentina. Also, everybody wants to get rich by renting their property.
I’m from Los Angeles, California and I make $4K per month. I came down to Argentina in October 2022. I live in Capital Federal. Recoleta is trash bunch of old people frowned up looking constipated. Retiro is trash, too many tourists and a lot dangerous drunk homeless men lurking. Palermo is the closes to reminding me of a trendy Echo Park lifestyle in Los Angeles but the other upscale areas like Recoleta is boring to me. A local girl recommended San Ysidro so I may move to that area or Mar del Plata.
If - > I am hearing you correctly - inflation is terrible since the - 'deregulation' ? --- In other words - it's not really 'cheap' ! (My 2 br apartment in the US is $725/mo. in 2024) --- I would much prefer a modest frugal and thrifty studio - CHEAP ! --- Are those in great demand or are those plentiful (?) because few people want them ??? = Simple question. Near good food and people who speak 'some' English. --?-- 🤗
Seems expensive for locals
I would say that's about right, I also think it's very expensive for locals.
I would like another apt. video. Thanks.
Haha I will definitely work on one!
guantanamo has some really nice apartments that we think would be a perfect and welcoming match for you and your friends.
@@AUMINER1 Huh?
@@sabrinahuyke I've heard prices in general have gone up a lot the past few months. Is that true?
@@SenorJuan2023 When Trump is elected again, it's obvious why you will be either arrested or forced to leave...crime doesn't pay, better to be honest and obey the law.
Interesting that a Venezuelan, socialist society, lives in a Argentina, transitioning from socialism to a newly capitalist society and doesn’t think a free market is “sustainable” 😂😂 how is it possible
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