This should be a fun project to watch. I've flown Mike's Pietenpol, a Grega GN-1 version (under) powered by an A-75. Nice to fly but tight inside for a six-footer. I'll bet a larger prop turned more slowly by a Model A engine would pull better than the Continental. People in the 1920s and 30s tried everything to get into the air. Most people didn't have any extra money.
The Pietenpol Ford usually turns a 72 x 42 prop at 16-1800 rpm. The ‘wheat belt’ pioneers didn’t need to worry about excessive elevation (above sea level) or obstacle clearance. Of course the average human was a bit smaller 100 years ago too.
I met Bernie Pietenpol at the 1968 EAA convention when I was a teenager; last year it was held in Rockford, I believe. He was short and slight of build which explains the size of his airplane designs. Not at all like the teenagers I saw in Walmart this afternoon. Incidentally, my first instructor soloed in 1926 in a Hisso powered Standard, very much like a Jenny. He was 14 years old with 4:15 in his logbook. @@FlyingForFunTrecanair
It’s a pity you can’t use a Ford engine for Pietenpol builds in the UK. I know someone here in the Netherlands who has a model A engine with an aluminium head and high compression pistons which is going in a new Pietenpol build. He gets around 65 bhp.
There was a Pietenpol with a Model B engine under construction near Bristol. Dual ignition head and a drilled, pressure fed crank etc. Unfortunately the builder passed away before the project was completed. I haven't received a definitive 'no' from the LAA. The truth is that most builders are just as happy to fit a small Continental (they are good engines) but personally I would only want the Ford motor.
Being Australian, Thrusters we’re a popular aircraft for training in the early days of ultralights. Forced to fly no higher than 500 feet and no lower than 300 we lost quite a few pilots, purely from normally engine outs that at higher altitudes would have been survivable. Finally we got a clearance to fly higher but at the price of being monitored closely by the CAA.
Hello Rick again in Hamilton Ontario , Ha the model “A “ I had a pietenpol for a decade or so what a lovely aeroplane , I always visit The pietenpol gathering at Brodhead each each year before Oshkosh mother model A is a beautiful although heavy mill . I simply love what you are doing . Rick
Nick - the instant I saw that engine, I shouted *PIETENPOL!!!* and I'm glad you are venturing vaguely in that direction. LOL Whatever you decide to do, Nick, I'll be following your every move! (RUclips algorithms permitting, LOL)
So much fun watching your big fast arm choppers buzzing around and all the noise they make!! Great to see your UK version of Model A engine. Will be great fun watching you take it apart and make it sing again!! From what I have seen so far it is much much better condition starting out than most of my engines which as you know start out as rusted solid junk pile engines that no one else wants to touch. I will keep watching as you make progress! Grandpa Dan
Thank you Dan, your channel is an inspiration. Some of those engines look beyond help but you show well how decent old fashioned engineering can bring them back to life!
Can't wait to see this project. I play with "T"s and have a 24 driver. I too have always admired the Piet, but haven't had the opportunity to fly one. Best of luck to you. Thanks for all your hard work.
It used to smoke a lot, well everyone did back then! Love the content and you keeping old planes in the air and old cars on the road.
This should be a fun project to watch. I've flown Mike's Pietenpol, a Grega GN-1 version (under) powered by an A-75. Nice to fly but tight inside for a six-footer. I'll bet a larger prop turned more slowly by a Model A engine would pull better than the Continental. People in the 1920s and 30s tried everything to get into the air. Most people didn't have any extra money.
The Pietenpol Ford usually turns a 72 x 42 prop at 16-1800 rpm. The ‘wheat belt’ pioneers didn’t need to worry about excessive elevation (above sea level) or obstacle clearance. Of course the average human was a bit smaller 100 years ago too.
I met Bernie Pietenpol at the 1968 EAA convention when I was a teenager; last year it was held in Rockford, I believe. He was short and slight of build which explains the size of his airplane designs. Not at all like the teenagers I saw in Walmart this afternoon. Incidentally, my first instructor soloed in 1926 in a Hisso powered Standard, very much like a Jenny. He was 14 years old with 4:15 in his logbook. @@FlyingForFunTrecanair
It’s a pity you can’t use a Ford engine for Pietenpol builds in the UK. I know someone here in the Netherlands who has a model A engine with an aluminium head and high compression pistons which is going in a new Pietenpol build. He gets around 65 bhp.
There was a Pietenpol with a Model B engine under construction near Bristol. Dual ignition head and a drilled, pressure fed crank etc. Unfortunately the builder passed away before the project was completed. I haven't received a definitive 'no' from the LAA. The truth is that most builders are just as happy to fit a small Continental (they are good engines) but personally I would only want the Ford motor.
Being Australian, Thrusters we’re a popular aircraft for training in the early days of ultralights. Forced to fly no higher than 500 feet and no lower than 300 we lost quite a few pilots, purely from normally engine outs that at higher altitudes would have been survivable. Finally we got a clearance to fly higher but at the price of being monitored closely by the CAA.
Energy / flight path management is challenging in ultralights and has to be taught well, understood properly and regularly practiced.
Looking forward to watching the engine videos. You need to retire so you can finish that C2!
There will be more C2 progress soon, it’s now in a nice tidy workshop rather than being used as the machine shop ‘Christmas Tree’ 🤣
YES!! About time, Nick! LOL
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OOOOh this is fantastic, being that I have a ford engine in the basement that needs to be modified for my Peitenpol Sky Scout.
Fun things.
Of course, I wasn’t sure whether you had an Air Camper or a Sky Scout. Hopefully this series will be useful - or at least entertaining?!
Hello Rick again in Hamilton Ontario , Ha the model “A “ I had a pietenpol for a decade or so what a lovely aeroplane , I always visit The pietenpol gathering at Brodhead each each year before Oshkosh mother model A is a beautiful although heavy mill . I simply love what you are doing . Rick
I’d like to go to Brodhead (and Cherry Grove); maybe one day 🙂
We are lucky to have a Model specialist shop right in our area. model A used a Gemmer box as does my Morgan which also has a straight 4 Ford.
Nick - the instant I saw that engine, I shouted *PIETENPOL!!!* and I'm glad you are venturing vaguely in that direction. LOL
Whatever you decide to do, Nick, I'll be following your every move! (RUclips algorithms permitting, LOL)
The Pietenpol is a fine ship, maybe one day I’ll head in that direction. Learning the Model A motor is the first step 👍
So much fun watching your big fast arm choppers buzzing around and all the noise they make!!
Great to see your UK version of Model A engine. Will be great fun watching you take it apart and make it sing again!! From what I have seen so far it is much much better condition starting out than most of my engines which as you know start out as rusted solid junk pile engines that no one else wants to touch.
I will keep watching as you make progress!
Grandpa Dan
Thank you Dan, your channel is an inspiration. Some of those engines look beyond help but you show well how decent old fashioned engineering can bring them back to life!
Can't wait to see this project. I play with "T"s and have a 24 driver. I too have always admired the Piet, but haven't had the opportunity to fly one. Best of luck to you. Thanks for all your hard work.
Free engine! Fantastic and lucky find!
It was going in the scrap metal pile if I didn't take it!
@@FlyingForFunTrecanair it’s great you saved it!
Interesting as always. Your narratives are so enlightening.
Why not a bit of "Hot Start" before flipping the prop.?
Why? Ether is for rusty tractors and model aeroplanes 😂