Free Campsites For Car Camping & Van Life- WILL THEY CLOSE PUBLIC LANDS?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Are We In Danger of Losing Access to Camping on Public Land?
Public Lands for Car Camping and Van Life? Will We Lose Access?
What is dispersed camping? Is BLM ( Bureau of Land Management) Land closing?
Will Forest Fires effect where van dwellers camp? Find out in this video!
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I’ve lost two homes in Oregon in last 5 years 😢. I cannot take the smoke & PTSD any longer. This Summer I’m headed to Minnesota. I’ll take a few cold months over smoke/fear. Grew up in Seattle. Can’t take the heat. I’m in a Subaru Crosstrek. Following the weather these days & staying away from people.
Best wishes- take care- be safe- and "May the Force be with YOU"!
I hope you enjoy MN. I have lived here my whole life. I’m transitioning to CO, where my kids recently bought land.
In my opinion MN is not as Nomad friendly as many states. I wish you well.
More like 7 months of snow in Minnesota
Good luck in Minnesota freezing your ass off for five to seven months 🌧️🌧️🌧️🌩️⛈️🌨️
Try 8 cold months hope you like staying inside
It’s because of the lousy messy, rude, noisy people who ruin it for the rest.
Just another comment, I’ve been traveling all over and this is my first time down here in quartzites. I’m amazed with the thousands of people here that this place is as clean as it is. In the three months I’ve been here I have not seen even one cigarette butt on the ground, so I know people are able to take care of the land. The places that are so trashed are from the local people a lot of the time and I’ve seen that year after year after year living in Colorado.
Totally agree, local weekender riffraff partying it up, dumping their trash. Nomads Ive been with pick up. I always inspect the area after pulling out, even micro trash.
Planing to go on the road this fall. When I saw this, I was thinking it was for something else. My moto has always been: take nothing but pictures..leave nothing but foot prints. Love what you do, stay safe. ✌
Part of the reason 89b and 525 near Sedona were closed is, yes you described it, overuse of the land. With those closures Sedona and Cottonwood lost quite a few workers who had to move on (there is no affordable housing in the area, so a lot of workers camped) To add to that, there were many folks new to dry camping perhaps out of economic necessity who severely trashed out the land. We've had so many volunteers go to clean up those areas, so much refuse and trash, mattresses, etc.
Geesh, lazy people still cannot clean up after themselves, sad and frustrating!
Same in Big Bear at the bottom of the hill, but fires go up hill through the canyons generally and we have so many evacuations followed by deadly mud slides from previous fires, not to mention the clean ups. Something needs to be done, what that is? I don’t know but too many people are loosing their lives, property, business and livestock.
I'm thinking that mattresses are a local problem not from campers etc. One of the problems in this area is that municipalities have started charging for taking large trash so folks leave it by the side of the road. Very short sighted government.
When did this happen? I was on 525 2 years ago and it was clean, amazingly clean considering that thousands of people camped there. Wonder how the business will be in town now since there is very limited space now and campers wont be buying in town.
@@johnnylightning1491 exactly, what nomad is going to drive over an extra mattress to dump or forget to take theirs with them, I mean it could happen but more likely somebody went to dump their trash
1. Lovely setting, Bob, for today's video.
2. What you're reminding us of only makes sense. Sometimes we put convenience ahead of stewardship.
3. What we don't steward we lose.
Convenience is another name for laziness; we Americans pay to be lazy, hard to believe, but true.
I advocate for people to pick up after others misdeeds in this regard.
To benefit us all.
It's not that bad to just do it.
people need to clean up behind themselves and leave the spot cleaner then when you got there. It sucks cleaning up others messes but slobs will lose us land.
@AnakaShack do permanent nomads pay other than sell taxes? This is a question not judging, I truly don’t know. They definitely don’t pay property taxes.
It's not that bad. Cost vs benefit! We do it!
Otherwise blame will fly & nobody cares at that point.
I really appreciate your balance, non political, take responsibility perspective. Just fantastic!
That's why we bought a 10 acre plot off grid in Arizona. So we would have a home base to go to.
I did that 7 years ago and I'm getting ready to buy another one so I can snowbird on my own property LOL... I woke up to snow again this morning and I'm not going to do that again next year.
@@mobiltec Hi there! I woke up to a little bit of ice and a frozen spigot because I forgot to let it drip. That’s how I knew the moment it got above 32° this morning, when the water started gushing, LOL. See ya!
Those in control want you to flee to that cheap, god forsaken land where you cannot effectively raise livestock, garden, or have access to water and continually depend on urban centers that they control.
I have been looking around. Land is expensive per acre in AZ. Good luck.
Do you worry about water?
Last two years were fire and flooding. Closed some public lands. They are stepping up on getting license plates for two week stay. Did you notice Bob that Coconino county changed their off grid living on owned land? A specific date is grand fathered in but if sold, a person can not live in their RV. Specific rules of a mini house, what needs to be in it and a steel cargo container. They are pushing off the off grid future people. Also, RV parks have raised their rates. The states are moving out the homeless.
So. Rents too high, push out the campers with fees and grandfathers, where can low income people go? What could be the expectation? When people have no options, there's lawlessness. Do they want to fill the for-profit prisons with elders, disabled, mentally ill, unhirable, hirable-but-cannot-find-a-job, free spirits?
@@bernadettebockis4120 well Canada is pushing self euthanasia for unhappiness to your situation 🤷♀️
@@bernadettebockis4120 Nailed it.
Time and time again they use strawman arguments...but no doubt the HOMELESS ARE TARGETED.
They're not concerned with solutions. Only $$$$$$
Stay strong 💪 Mighty Warriors 🤠 Much love to everyone and their families from Quartzsite Az and the Coyote grocery store 🤠🏵️🙏💪
Hey neighbor ✌️
I’m in California, and can tell you that the Forest Service has significantly restricted the ability to legally disperse camp in many areas in the state. They have widened/expanded what you will see labeled on Forest Service visitor maps as “Special Recreation Area Boundary” that typically follow highways or around lakes and areas with designated campgrounds. The Forest Supervisor for a specific Forest can and frequently does also adopt orders that can further restrict the ability to camp and use public Forest Service land. These orders were used extensively during COVID and many remain in effect. I’m camping on the Tahoe and neighboring forests currently while waiting to start a campground host job, and it’s been tough to find legal campsites. I’m also finding that a number of places I’ve previously camped are now inaccessible due to locked gates on roads. The fact that many areas presently inaccessible because of snow only makes things harder.
I should add that many of the restrictions have resulted from visitors abusing our public lands by leaving trash and human waste, driving where and when they shouldn’t, etc. Please don’t be one of those people!
Excellent video and information. I live in Arizona and camp a lot, so know these things, but many folks don't. Yes, it is up to us to recreate responsibly and respect the land. Thanks for posting.
Well, where we live in Colorado right at the national forest, we have had huge problems with the campers. They live and set up “towns”. They litter.They do not abide by the forest rules. Then we had a big crime problem start in our mountain neighborhood If they do not respect the rules and the rights of us homeowners, we do not want them around us. So the forest service is cracking down on them up here.
Shannon Eubanks
So sad but Respect is like common sense, common courtesy, ect. Almost Non existent in many cases.
Kinda like They just don't make-um like they use to..?
All this is why I'm sitting on my home base (with new RV parked in the barnyard) and not eager to hit the road again.. Guess I don't want to deal with all the STUFF 🤭🙄
It's hard not to get furious when I see what you are talking about (a lot!) But we have to all figure out what to do about it. As unpleasant as the behavior is it is often a consequence more than anything else of not being able to cheaply dispose of our stuff. I see this in rural areas all over Oregon and California too - often in places very close to where the illegal dampers actually own property! The worst part is seeing all the abandoned cars. If I were rich like Elon Musk I'd pay to get all of them taken off the land that they are scarring.
@@suetrublu Yup. In WI we see ppl who I'm sure have homes suddenly DUMPING like crazy onto land adjacent to homeless/camping areas incl lots like Park & Ride where vehicle dwellers/trucks go.
Everyone thinks it's only homeless.
Yet city will make disposal MORE difficult!
We must find a way, anyhow.
This was very informative. I always appreciate your information- it's so clear and concise. Thanks for reminding everyone not to "love it to death" when it comes to camping spots. We all need to be responsible for this earth.
That was very helpful information. I would love to get out and dispersed camp.
Being disabled and traveling is a challenge. Getting my rig setup, doing the build. So challenging! All those traveling, enjoying nature. Be thankful and be safe.
Safe travels to all that are out there. :)
Same here.
We will find a way!
Thank you Bob for this info. I had wondered what the definition of dispersed camping was. I lived in the Reno Nevada area for many years, the wild fires are so very destructive in many ways. Wild fire areas are uniquely vulnerable so they need extra care and awareness.🦋
I’m 55 and finishing my Van conversion this summer , clock is ticking I think for this lifestyle ..I will be working odd
Jobs as I go and hope to check many things of my bucket list , by the time I qualify for even early social there will be
Nothing left out there. I really hope we all get to enjoy a few more years of this way of traveling but I think we all know
It’s coming to and end fairly soon as is everything else in this world, I Wish everybody safe travels
Im leaving in 6 months!
Same age and same openion!!!
Nomads have been here since the beginning. They can never stop us only make it more difficult. If that is the case you aren't far enough from the cities
Thank you for clearing this up Bob and where to get information if we're unsure if an area is closed. Too many RUclips channels out there are putting out fear and not real information just to get views.
Big Hugs to you Bob! You look marvelous! So much knowledge to share.Grateful.
Best wishes to all responsible Nomads and thanks to Bill Wells for continued information. I'm not a Nomad but I've learned a lot for all the videos and information and enjoy watching the all the Nomad folks and wish only the best for you !
It's Bob Wells, not Bill.
Very good video!
Unfortunately the Bad Ones are as usual making a mess like Sedona. Then WHINE about the issues.
I have some land in northern Utah. Even on my own land, I only camp a couple of months a year. Right now the snow is so deep, I can`t get to it. Starting the first of June each year, the fire danger is so high that I can`t have a fire, it is also the law. I can still camp but what if I`m a sleep in my camper and a fire is out of control half a mile away? So, on my own land I shut it down to overnight camping. Thank you for this video. It is full of good info.
Oh, I see, closing the land to protect it is like closing the fishing areas to protect them from being over-fished. Bob, you are the wonderful Santa of nomad life, thanks for everything.
That is a great viewpoint but a little hopefuli don't agree totally with the reasoning but we definitely are in danger of losing stuff for sure
Don't be fooled. The more lands that close, the higher the concentration becomes at open lands, giving reason to close those also. Do you see the plot?
I am surprised at the amount of garbage left around. That said it can be a struggle to find a dumpster and recycling. I wonder if there is a bit of a homeless issue overlapping on BLM near the cities especially. I believe this has closed spots closer to cities, perhaps like the Sedona one?
Having no bin is no excuse tho. My rubbish stays in my car till I find a suitable place to get rid of it. My friend used to use that ad a excuse to litter and one time he littered when there was a bin 2 meters away. I called him out on it but he was too stubborn to pick up his own mess so the no bin excuse was irrelevant.
@@arkhamkillzone Right.
Often the muni govs create a NO BIN SITUATION.
But never is that any excuse.
Find a way.
We do. 100%
No exceptions.
We include cleaning others mess too...lest we all lose.
Blame will go onto easy targets. No one cares who did it.
Bob is a national treasure!
The feds just passed a law that you will need a permit to film him and other national treasures!!
@@Community-Action🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"He is the patron saint of the homeless."
@@hg2.maybe homeless, but homeless with dignity and a gratifying life
It was a real pleasure to have met you Bob. My first RTR. What great things you do for us nomads!
I am a wanna-be nomad pondering my options. Thank you for your informative blogs, and your periodic reviews of old info. I am especially pleased by your "practical" as opposed to "easy" or "fun" info. Thanks!
Thank you Bob for the reminder of personal responsibility! Beautiful background in the video. What month was it filmed?
He said it was September. I think.
California has so much free BLM land for remote camping, there is even more options if you have a 4×4 vehicle. In a state of 40 million it's hard to believe! California has some of the best all around geography to fit your needs...
I move every 14 days like required requested AND pack in and Pack Out. I don't leave cans, glass ... anything in firepits. I think we need to figure out how to dispense Nomad Justice to those who cause serious issues and break rules. A list, pictures, whatever because IF WE DON'T the government will do it to all of US ... after Skooliepalooza near Havasu last year, the government closed that area according to a ranger I spoke to last week
Thanks, Bob. If we as nomads don't want to be blindsided by decisions that the Federal land managers are making regarding Public Land then we need to form what's called a "User Group". The Feds tend not to listen to individuals as much as they do large groups of organized users. An organized user group can pay dedicated activists to sit through the often years-long NEPA and Forest Plan revisioning processes, representing the members and ensuring that the group's interests are heard. Think the Sierra Club, Wilderness Society, motorized and non-motorized trail groups, regional hiking clubs, etc. We need to do the same. You have to have dedicated people (usually paid and backed by lawyers) submitting informed comments on proposed projects and Forest policies, people who follow through over the course of many months and years with well-written objections and appeals and sometimes (rarely) a Federal lawsuit. That's how it works. That's how you get the Feds to listen to you. A bunch of disorganized individuals bellyaching to LEOs in campgrounds or complaining on RUclips doesn't cut it.
Okay, #1How do you propose to get the Funds to pay these "dedicated activists" ie. Lobbyists? #2 How do you propose to keep this going? #3 WHY do you think this is even needed??? We haven't been "blindsided" by anything...
Thanks Rambling Dave for answering a very important unasked question. We of course need to make our voices heard and dealing with the Feds, as you suggest, is usually a matter of numbers
@@kdc1153 It’s really fairly simple: one of the primary aspects of democracy is the right of the people to assemble (however assembly may occur) to petition the government for redress of grievances. Closure of dispersed camping areas is a grievance. Through assembly and petition, we are able to have that grievance addressed. Activists/lobbyists don’t have to be hired/paid for petition to occur. Interested people can do the job .
I'm a motorcyclist. We have the AMA- American motorcycle Association. Over the decades, I have paid a membership, or not, but I have absolutely been the beneficiary of professional paid lobbying in Washington. Like nomads, bikers are a small, often misunderstood minority. Where nomads have people who are too entitled to clean up the site, bikers have the "loud pipes save lives" gang. Both cause enormous harm to the rest of the community. We are still banned from Baxter state park in ME, which fact has kept me out of central ME for decades. If it were not for AMA directly attacking such legislation as it comes up, we would be banned from much of the country we love. One specific example is the Interstate highway network. Yeah. We can lose access to the National forests in future if we do not defend that right. No one else is going to save us if the drum beat starts to get those "freeloaders" out of my ____(insert geopolitical unit here). We need an ANA soon. If half the nomads who could chip in did say $30/year we could be a force to be heard in DC. If we don't get organized someone we may not like will be controlling the narrative when it happens.
That is a gorgeous backdrop! Beautiful scenery! What a shot!
In Texas, there is one state park that is reverting to private ownership next year. A state that is mostly privately owned. Preserving public lands for recreation and preservation is important.
I'd heard about that. TX has so little dispersed camping areas to begin with is pretty sad.
With only 4.2% of Texas being public land, I won't be visiting anytime soon.
Thanks bob always very informational
That backdrop is absolutely gorgeous ❤ thank u Bob ❤
Ok so Bob, I did notice closures, many throughout the Angeles crest National Forest back in the summer of 2020. Little spots off the road that had a campsite area dug into the canyons off the roads a bit. They were clearly not just rest areas but little sites which at the time I was assuming that is dispersed camping and you could see that they came along with a bulldozer and covered the entrance to each area with huge boulders and a little wall of dirt. I did however find two that were open and I successfully stayed there for two weeks in my cargo van I just had purchased without any insulation or a build, I literally had to build my set up around living in it. That was sadly my last time in the forest due to the bad reception and I’ve been trying to get ahead ever since so I can get an off grid cellphone plan that works. Been on the side of the highway for two years, feel frustrated and homeless, because I really wanted to follow in your footsteps Bob and live in the forest.
Good to know re that issue.
We've been battling a couple other problems but I was concerned about that as we plan going to the SW from WI this year.
Bob please stress to your people to clean up these areas! Not only their own garbage but take 15 minutes to police up others mess. It has to be done. Thanks Bob.
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Yes this the most critical issue for preserving our way of life, and our wild lands
Yes. I've been saying this!
It's not that hard.
It's so worth it!
Bob, thank you for sharing and for the updated information. If we can individually and collectively leave no trace and make each place better than we found them, perhaps we can keep access to more places in the future.
Thank you for the information. Devoted follower
My unscientific experience of public lands and boondocking, is that the closer it is to a fair sized city or town, the more likely it is to be trashed by weekend partiers and used as a dump. Truly sad but true, at least in my 2+ years of dispersed camping.
Thanks Bob....it's always enjoyable not to mention informative and helpful information that you give to us. Keep it all coming we are being encouraged!
Thank you so much for all your knowledge
Bob,
The Sierra Nevada range does in fact see rain in the summer months.
I've lived in Lake Tahoe, Yosemite and the Owens Valley, afternoon high elevation summer showers are brief but not that rare.
Is the Sierra dry relative to the Cascades, Rockies or Appalachian ranges? Yes of course.
I watch and enjoy your videos, the information you provide is useful.
Keep up the good work.
Safe travels to you.
They can't get you into their 15 min cities if you can go where you want.
Thank you for cool headed insights. Sometimes we smother the very thing we love so much.
The scenery behind you is beautiful. It looks like a picture. We weren’t sure if it was real or not until we saw the butterfly go by. Awesome view! Blessings.
A huge part of the fire problem is improper land management.
Drought for years on end is the underlying problem. I know. I live in wild-fire country.
Absolutely
Wow, Bob!
You chosed a beautiful background again 😍
If people who camp leave trash, then yes, The government will have no choice because there is not the staff or budget to clean up the trash. So, leave no trace when you camp, dont be a pig.
This! I'm just now finishing my van for the spring and intend on using only leave-no-trace ethics when it comes to waste of all types. These people are ruining it for those of us who actually appreciate it. If they think it's okay to leave our natural habitats trashed, I'd be worried what else they find okay too.
It's also about increased wildfire danger, polluting lakes and streams, and defecating without being mindful of disposing it properly. Also cleaning up after your dogs.
Where i live im surrounded by national forests. Rarely ever see forest personnel. It would be nearly impossible to enforce closures as compared unless they hire more workers. And if they hire more people then it makes more sense to just properly manage our forest.
Most RVers will obey the rule, the feds just shut dow access road and close the gates, they don’t need to hire park rangers to enforce the laws. Only the campers will turn back frustratingly.
Drones
I’m right by the National Forest and at least where I’m at it does get patrolled often. On fire bans they’ll even have helicopters at night.
Come to New Mexico. There is an abundance of dispersed camping. And the local towns love you and your money. Just pick up your trash.
I love NM! Right now it's a little chilly though. I'll be going through there in the next week.
That’s good news but we hope not to deal with fires it was so bad in Nm we couldn’t live in our home smoke was so bad we loaded up our camper & hit the road hope it not bad this year good info thanks👍🏻
Thanks for the update.
I am a volunteer for the NPS at the Mojave National Preserve off the I-15 and I-40 freeways in California. The Preserve is 1.6 million acres. We have quite a few designated camping spots available at different altitudes (up to 6,000 feet), in addition to two low-cost campgrounds - Mid Hills & Hole-In-The-Wall, which are $6.00 per night with a National Pass. (The campgrounds are on the honor system, cash-only). We are 1 1/2 hours from Las Vegas, Laughlin & Barstow. Hope to see you here soon! 👍
Ty I was very confused with the flagstaff problem
Thanks Bob, headed out of Quartzite early April towards specific directions nice seeing you in person
( my first RTR 2023,)
I thought you were going to get there but what is so bad about crowded campsites? You said it was just a few people that caused it to close so what was it specifically that they did? I want to know what the action is that will get it closed so we can know what is a deal breaker and a) not do it and b) find another solution that doesn’t make everyone suffer for a few people that did some mysterious thing. I so appreciate you Bob for furthering our understanding of these situations because it allows me to engage and think creatively what we can do…other than just suffer.
Sometimes it's not that people are doing illegal/bad things. It's just that too many people contained in too small an area damages eco systems.
Winter droughts-excessive heat in summer and overpopulation = HUGE PROBLEMS.
There are obvious things like trash and other waste not being disposed of properly, but in many cases it's simply the unavoidable impacts that add up faster than nature can compensate - like soils getting compacted by too much traffic (vehicle, foot, or otherwise) or vegetation being trampled more often than it can recover from, or wildlife impacts because there is too much human presence, or water scarcity, etc etc etc - even responsible use has limits before it starts to make negative impacts. A place that gets camped on a few times a year might have time to recover, while the same spot might be seriously harmed if someone camps there every single day - even if it's not the same person.
Bob, thanks so much for putting this information out there. Before I left the East I preached the same message constantly: we are loving the land to death. I can cite place after place in the Nantahala NF and Pisgah NF (NC) and the Cherokee NF (TN) where extreme abuse occurred just from people loving the land to death. I think we are in a situation of needing extreme public land education to care for the heritage we have before we destroy it. Overdevelopment is bad enough, but it’s intentional; what we are doing is from sheer ignorance. Of course with budget cuts being what they are, the folks who are needed can’t be hired.
Walk in Beauty,
It's not that "we" are loving the land to death...its the "class" of people that are Real trash and just dont care about anything at all!..they just trash the place they stay at and just move on to the next...it's getting worse,,
Yep its the great snowball effect …the more places get gated because because of one type of folk and you all know
Who they are..the next place will get even more overrun because to many users and the ball gets bigger every time
I think within 5 years 80 percent of all camping currently open on BLM land will get closed and gated…😢
Hi Bob, I have just recently found your channel and am really enjoying it. So I haven't had time to go back and view all of your videos. I have a question, which I assume has a lengthy answer. I am sure some of it is just plain common sense, but for newbies some of it may not have occurred to us. What are all the things we can do to leave the land as healthy as possible during a stay on the lands you have mentioned. Thanks!
Thank you Bob & team!! HELPFUL!!
Thanks for the information 🙂
I just love you Bob! As a future van lifer, nomad, camper, etc, I was concerned about all the natural and man made disasters out west. But, after your video, I understand that you not only have to chase the temperatures you now need to avoid regular weather events such as monsoons, flash flooding, fires etc. And the concept of loving the land to death, is something I didn't realize since there is so much wilderness out west. Thank you again for your excellent videos educating folks.
And, if you haven't already, would you do a video on how to avoid monsoons, fires, flash floods etc?? Specifically, telling us the location and months when certain weather events are prevalent... Many thanks for the amazing, selfless work you do Bob.
Great video, Bob. Lots of valuable info.
Thanks for your intel. I’m researching van life…so this is so important to know. Blessings to you!
People causing destruction of the land aren't loving it..
I think real land lovers should be separated from the blame.
Of course it's difficult to recognize who is who..that's why most good campers leave a place better than they found it..when the state closes something perhaps we can organize a clean up with them somehow..
Damn you, Bob, for using facts and reason!
Thanks for all the info. Having the time of my life with friends in Q that Iet through HOWA caravans. I never thought a desert could be so beautiful.
Thank you for this informative update Bob! Very helpful
With some regenerative practices growing in agriculture, I am excited to see how people are supporting it and improving the land. Support your local regenerative farmer and learn about soil health principles.
Very informative video. Thanks
Thanks for this video, Bob. Just to clarify, we all believe the weather changes; we disagree on the causes. Check out solar flare activity during the most recent solar cycle for one-- but not necessarily the-- cause for current warming. Thanks again for all of your great info. We can all come together to help each other as nomads despite other differences.
Solar flares DO NOT create serious weather changes. Please learn from actual scientists about this, instead of spreading disinformation. We cannot simply "agree to disagree" when the world is burning, what are you going to do, put out the sun?
appreciate you Bob, be safe out there
Yes, it’s like having a party on your green grass in your front yard. You trample on it long enough, and the grass will die.
Thanks Bob. What worries me is that the national forest service will go too far in the direction of army discipline. That is: when one or two people screw up, everybody pays. This is OK in the military because those who followed the rules can put pressure on those who didn't. But that is not feasible for the whole camping community.
The National Forest Service and BLM, from my experiences, only goes as far as they have to in order to protect and restore sensitive or damaged areas. I’ve never seen an area closed without a valid reason.
Troubling for the military as well.
Trouble being, one person can burn everything down and there is no place for ANYone to go then. Until it grows back, on natures timeframe not peoples.
Unfortunately, it's usually a selfish minority that ruin things for the majority when it comes to a lot of things..
@@Patrick_Ross Good to know.
We gladly pickup after others.
We assumed that it matters.
I met a lot of nomads this year who told me that they stay in the same spot all winter (Gunsight wash BLM). As someone who moves after 2 weeks, I can confirm that they are still there a month later (when I circle back). Not sure how people justify this?
Thanks Bob, for keeping it real ❤️
Thanks Bob for clearing that up!
Have to disagree with you Bob. I've camped in the Mammoth Area many summers and have experienced many summer thunder rain storms. Lightening fires are a threat then and have come across fires in the Sagehen Meadows snd Mono Lake area, riding my ATV.
Thx Bob. Good job and very good information. “Just go camp somewhere else “. 😂 👍🏻
And hey. Hasn’t the climate always been changing ? For ever climate has changed. Where we see huge valleys once was a glacier. It’s just how life goes right ? Be safe my friend 👍🏻✌🏻
It’s the rapidity of change that matters and that change is far more rapid…and accelerating….than at any other time in the geological timeline.
If there’s one thing for certain, it’s that things change. See even the way things have changed is now also changing. Don’t worry, be happy and responsible. And
Make it a Great Day ! 👍🏻✌🏻
Thank you bob for all that you do for everyone. You are amazing. Lol. Jan from texas.
Love all your videos. So helpful. 😆
Thanks for this pertinent information .I’m just info gathering and in the planning and hoping stage so this is very helpful to me . I appreciate it thanks
I live in BC, Canada fire bans and fire hazard gets posted all over our province, there are hefty fines if caught with a camp fire during bans. We also have hefty fines for littering (about $2000) people do report and this helps to keep our province clean and beautiful, majority of citizens respect our land. We have good forest management along with wildlife management, we seem to get our forest fires under control faster than Oregon or Washington. We can find many "dispersed" campsites.. We can camp on Crown land for 2 weeks. We have many government camp sites but are booked and paid for on line, there are many free campsites. We also have Van Nomads but its getting too expensive to live this lifestyle (cost of fuel, vans, parts, equipment).
Thanks a million for the info.
Thanks for the important information, As a new nomad I am trying to get as much info as a can.
One thing I have stopped doing is rating or posting reviews on apps Ive used in the past concerning sites that I stay at. I only use apps that show Public Lands. Sounds selfish but We’re all creatures of habit and follow the crowds.
In 2021 I had to evacuate CA forest service land due to Dixie and Tahoe fires... all CA NF were closed, and then those areas not directly affected by the fires were re-opened after 3 weeks.
WHEW! Thank you so much, Bob, and team. Great topic. Lovely location. Was wondering about these issues and happily feeling better now. Happy trails 🙏🏼🐾🎶
Looks beautiful there
Crazy how many RECORD COLDS we have had this year... -108 was one of them. ...and yeah, in the desert, it is hot and dry. 🤦
The cattle ranchers with permits in the mountains have large problems with the campers. They open gates they get in places by the watering holes The cattle and the wildlife have suffered greatly. So what do we do?
As always, great information! Thanks!
Beautiful background, one would not believe this is the desert. Thank you for the information!!⛺🚙
Fremont National Forest in Oregon just north of Ca is closed till next year. Fire damage I think
where you are standing is so beautiful!!!
This is why we need to vote for people who fight to keep these open!!
Thank you, Bob. Important information!
Another reason is people with no class leaving their trash and garbage everywhere!
Why is nobody discussing that?
I for one am tired of cleaning up other rude peoples trash!
Thanks Bob for the latest information on the open forests and desert camping dispersed.