AIR SUPERIORITY DOGFIGHT | Eurofighter Typhoon Vs F-22 Raptor | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +39

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    • @fmj1729
      @fmj1729 Год назад +6

      P38 differential thrust. Would be great to watch that

    • @rohangangan8327
      @rohangangan8327 Год назад +2

      Please make a video on Su 30MKI vs the F22 , Dogfight and BVRAAM

    • @ChocotacoFan
      @ChocotacoFan Год назад +2

      please do Su33 vs F/A18 super hornet or F35 lightning II

    • @davidmckenzie6505
      @davidmckenzie6505 Год назад +1

      Man! I wish you can have a F-22 vs J-20

    • @MississippiKid96
      @MississippiKid96 Год назад +1

      F22 vs mig 31 BVR

  • @PatrickCarricoKY
    @PatrickCarricoKY Год назад +594

    Now we know. Growling Sidewinder cannot defeat a UFO in a guns-only fight.

    • @clayblaze1327
      @clayblaze1327 Год назад +27

      Now we just need an actual ufo to go up against the raptor😂

    • @inorite4553
      @inorite4553 Год назад +29

      Imagine had the F-22 gone back to WWII instead of the Tomcat in The Final Countdown. Pilots then would have believed the Raptor to be a UFO.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Год назад +10

      Now let's see GS in The new Grinnelli F-22 Raptor! Lol "UFO" VS F-15STOL/MTD & SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight!👍

    • @lars2748
      @lars2748 Год назад

      @@inorite4553 imagine the poor polish air force against the luftwaffe…

    • @musaratjahan7954
      @musaratjahan7954 Год назад

      @@clayblaze1327 it'll be the same as this raptor vs the eurofighter except the raptor would be in the eurofighter's position

  • @darrylsmith7871
    @darrylsmith7871 Год назад +416

    That first kill was brutal. Looks like the airshow "helicopter turn" has a real application in combat.

    • @hound83
      @hound83 Год назад +15

      And most hits ever in one pass...... :D

    • @eugenemccary4748
      @eugenemccary4748 Год назад +43

      That nose authority was just nuts… “oh he’s pointing the nose… oh he’s still pointing HIS NOSE!”

    • @slateman_8490
      @slateman_8490 Год назад +8

      What is this
      RIP

    • @MidnightSlayz
      @MidnightSlayz Год назад +4

      @@eugenemccary4748 Nice Last Words

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi Год назад +9

      @@eugenemccary4748 Yeah I honestly thought he had it as much as he did right to the last second. Then I realized what a monster the F-22 is.

  • @heathb4319
    @heathb4319 Год назад +420

    A wise and great pilot once said...
    "That is just an F22 doing F22 things"
    :))

    • @edwardking186
      @edwardking186 Год назад +6

      You should see the Grinelli F-22 doing Raptor things.

    • @davidskr4924
      @davidskr4924 Год назад +8

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma Thats highly exaggerated.
      But yeah they were able to get some kills of Raptor, but in verry specific scenario,

    • @Winter-Solst1ce
      @Winter-Solst1ce Год назад +10

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma It's the pilot, not the plane

    • @CrayonEater255
      @CrayonEater255 Год назад +5

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma Well the final results were 4-5 in favor of the raptor, the original post (of the video) said this

    • @Livinghighandwise
      @Livinghighandwise Год назад +5

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma Get your facts right son. It was 5 to 4 in favor of the Raptor in dog fighting (yes, closer than we would all expect). In BVR, it was 6-0 in favor of the Raptor.

  • @davidemartorana4708
    @davidemartorana4708 Год назад +647

    Can we just take a second and appreciate how good these two fighters look?

  • @gerretoutdoors3710
    @gerretoutdoors3710 Год назад +140

    "i dont think he can get a nicer kill than that"
    F-22 : And i took that personally

  • @federico339
    @federico339 Год назад +71

    2:45 when you suddenly realise you are piloting the F-22 and physics are merely a suggestion

    • @errorabortretry3694
      @errorabortretry3694 Год назад +10

      And fair fights are for suckers.

    • @jayglier
      @jayglier Год назад +9

      @@errorabortretry3694 if you aren't fighting dirty you aren't doing it right

    • @llaammeerr2506
      @llaammeerr2506 Год назад +1

      We follow the laws of aerodynamics in this household

    • @jayglier
      @jayglier Год назад

      @@llaammeerr2506 explain bee's...

    • @swordmonkey6635
      @swordmonkey6635 Год назад +3

      @@jayglier They finally figured that one out. The pattern of rotation the bee's wings move in allow for a crazy amount of lift and maneuverability. It wasn't until slow-motion video and computer simulations that scientists could work it out. But science now understands how bumblebees can fly. lol

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 Год назад +84

    Have never before seen such a perfect full-length fuselage strafe as that Round 1 kill - like a saw-mill blade on a log! LOL!

    • @darrylsmith7871
      @darrylsmith7871 Год назад +15

      "For my next magic trick, I will saw a Typhoon in half...lengthwise!"

    • @timsullivan4566
      @timsullivan4566 Год назад

      @@darrylsmith7871 THAT is the analogy I was looking for...!
      ;-)

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Год назад

      I was wondering why he did not invert the plane and dive under his nose when he realized thats not good whats coming...

  • @Pman353
    @Pman353 Год назад +28

    When ever the words “ oh what is this” is spoken when in an F-22 fight, death always follows😂

  • @knowa2911
    @knowa2911 Год назад +23

    “He’s 40° off there’s no way he’ll be able to pull me in.”
    F-22: *proceeds to rip off your wing*

  • @texasknight5175
    @texasknight5175 Год назад +48

    That first kill was EPIC.

    • @edwardking186
      @edwardking186 Год назад +6

      BRO!!! IKR!!! Probably the coolest gun kill we will ever see in DCS!

    • @hunterfly6658
      @hunterfly6658 Год назад +2

      The kill him in outside one of the side one from the top and want to ride to left😂

    • @MattH-wg7ou
      @MattH-wg7ou Год назад

      Stitched him up good and proper!

  • @KalvyNoodle
    @KalvyNoodle Год назад +59

    The Raptor moves like a god-damn UFO.

    • @arctu75
      @arctu75 Год назад

      It probably is a UFO in DCS. Both the EF and the F-22 are mods and i highly doubt that the modders have access to documents describing the flight characteristics of either in detail.

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад +15

      That it does.
      I also like to tell people it is the Drift King of the sky.
      That thing is going one direction while sliding another direction while looking like it is going another.

    • @drunknnirish
      @drunknnirish Год назад +18

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma Then it breaks down before launch

    • @justintime41776
      @justintime41776 Год назад +5

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma do they have tug jets fly around with them like their Navy has tug boats?

    • @edwardking186
      @edwardking186 Год назад +1

      @@heathb4319 Drift King of the Sky! I like that! Never heard that one.

  • @paulyb6458
    @paulyb6458 Год назад +33

    That first kill - you hear about WW2 pilots speak of "walking " their fire along an airframe and THAT was the perfect example

    • @swordmonkey6635
      @swordmonkey6635 Год назад +1

      Yeah and the F22 did it three times. Along the side of the fuselage from nose to tail. Then from the top of the fuselage nose to tail. Then from wingtip to wingtip. Incredible.

  • @floatingcereal4874
    @floatingcereal4874 Год назад +13

    That first kill was like he was trying to peel the top off that Eurofighter.

  • @TechnoMinarchistBall
    @TechnoMinarchistBall Год назад +276

    You should do squads vs squads. One of the reasons vector thrust was abandoned in jets going forward (F-35 etc) is because you lose all of your momentum in the process, which leaves you vulnerable to being enaged by anyone you're not chasing.
    I'd like to see how a squad of F-22s would fare against a squad of F-35s, or Eurofighters etc.

    • @mantisushi
      @mantisushi Год назад +23

      I think how a pair of raptors fighting a squad of literally anything in red flag shows why this is pointless, now 2v1? That'd be interesting

    • @TechnoMinarchistBall
      @TechnoMinarchistBall Год назад

      @@mantisushi I tried responding to you but I keep getting shadowed. No idea why. So here's the short of it:

    • @TechnoMinarchistBall
      @TechnoMinarchistBall Год назад

      @@mantisushi These 1v1s are more pointless as they are all decided by an ability that has no real utility in a real setting (squad on squad). (Part 1, trying to figure out what's causing the shadow).

    • @TechnoMinarchistBall
      @TechnoMinarchistBall Год назад

      @@mantisushi In a real setting all of this constant vector thrusting would end up with the raptors being shot out of the sky by their targets wingmen (if they are dogfighting). (Part 2)

    • @mantisushi
      @mantisushi Год назад +9

      @@TechnoMinarchistBall I get what you're saying, but this happens at red flag all the time and the raptors almost never lose. Against anything.

  • @_d3642
    @_d3642 Год назад +93

    So intense yet frustrating, I'm almost sweating watching GS avoiding the nose. This is impressive.

  • @namelesscrow9351
    @namelesscrow9351 Год назад +5

    GS: Ight we're gonna go-
    Shotgun: Nah.

  • @Lukecure
    @Lukecure Год назад +15

    In the first three rounds he cut your plane in half across each axis, yaw, roll, and pitch. That was kind of awesome. 😂

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi Год назад +34

    I don't think I've ever seen you go quite so thoroughly from "I've got this" to absolute overkill as that first kill. Crazy thrust on that F-22.

  • @AzStealthArea
    @AzStealthArea Год назад +6

    20mm to the face 2 out of 4!! That was brutal dude ;)

  • @eriveragt
    @eriveragt Год назад +7

    That first kill was the most savage thing I’ve ever seen.

  • @slickninjadude9165
    @slickninjadude9165 Год назад +14

    And that's why I love the F22 :) I was so glad to hear that shotgun was piloting the F22, because I feel like their are a lot of people who fly the F22 but just aren't as familiar with it so it was nice to see an experience pilot dogfight another experience pilot. Great video!

  • @maxboskeljon6440
    @maxboskeljon6440 Год назад +9

    When you mentioned your sub count i got so confused and then i looked. 375k??? I though you had like a million man. You definitely deserve it!!

  • @OrionSeas
    @OrionSeas Год назад +1

    3:00 that was incredible. It's like he just... Stopped, and waited for you to pass.

  • @waraiotoko738
    @waraiotoko738 Год назад +6

    Wow, that first round kill was the most accurate guns shot I've seen in DCS. Perfectly aligned running down the length of the Eurofighter.

  • @CombatMedic00
    @CombatMedic00 Год назад +3

    That first engagement haha
    "What are you doing, Step-F-22?"
    Brrrr

  • @formallyknownasj.a.2074
    @formallyknownasj.a.2074 Год назад +12

    It’s not very often when GS goes 0-4, but when he does…. He makes it look good. The Raptor definitely put some work in this fight. Good shit Brotha.

  • @localbod
    @localbod Год назад +4

    Your man Shotgun certainly knows how to fly and fight in the F-22.

  • @salutarydreams520
    @salutarydreams520 Год назад +5

    Intense fight! Would love to see Eurofighter vs F-15

  • @VagabondTexan
    @VagabondTexan Год назад +4

    I am going to put forth a motion to rename Shotgun to "Headhunter". Holy hell those first two kills were brutal.

  • @hirumaryuei
    @hirumaryuei Год назад +5

    First kill was crazy. Mad props to Shotgun for great control over the rudder pedals to line that up.

  • @redssracer4153
    @redssracer4153 Год назад +2

    5:04 That Eurofighter-size gap in the F-22's tracer stream, that was nice!!👍👍😁

  • @gfarrell80
    @gfarrell80 Год назад +2

    3:05 woof, that is a lit up Eurofighter.
    Brutal, two pilot kills in a row.

  • @magiscichoam
    @magiscichoam Год назад +4

    The F-22 air combat maneuver and gun shot (in Round 2) is a thing of exquisite nicety; literally an epic “Bitch” slap of staggering awesomeness.

  • @tastywaves6043
    @tastywaves6043 Год назад +5

    That first kill was what you would call "crossing the tee".

  • @severian_matachin
    @severian_matachin Год назад +4

    That first kill was totally sick
    - - - -
    Ok that second kill exhibited some pretty impressive gunnery too

  • @223556762308
    @223556762308 Год назад +3

    There was a split second where the F22 just had enough in that first fight

  • @skatman3278
    @skatman3278 Год назад +88

    Thoughts:
    Won't removing the missiles make it harder for the Typhoon given it has helmet-mounted sights?
    Does differential thrust make a big difference in the Typhoon given the engines are so close together?

    • @subwayak
      @subwayak Год назад +26

      The differential thrust doesn’t do a thing, and it’s quite frankly getting a little silly by now. It may have it’s place in an F-14 in some very select situations, but that’s about it.

    • @LevSeven_
      @LevSeven_ Год назад +15

      @@subwayak nah it definitely has an effect, you do realize just how much more power an afterburner does compared to a regular engine, right?

    • @cancelanime1507
      @cancelanime1507 Год назад +3

      The F-22 also has engines that are close together

    • @GTChucker86
      @GTChucker86 Год назад +14

      @@subwayak You’re underestimating how much thrust engines make at afterburner. Close together or offset differential thrust has a significant effect

    • @skatman3278
      @skatman3278 Год назад +1

      @@cancelanime1507 OK?

  • @mrsheev9131
    @mrsheev9131 Год назад +5

    Shotgun in the Raptor is something else, man. Very rare for GS to go 0-4, even if he's flying an inferior aircraft. Great video and excellent flying from both GS and Shotgun!

  • @saintmobius5348
    @saintmobius5348 Год назад +25

    A good scenario would be a ‘scramble’ - 50 miles, enemy has the height and speed advantage which puts you immediately on the back foot. Would be an exceptionally difficult scenario if you did this for your bandit unknown style of fights.
    You could also do this as a two ship formation and intercept strike packages from destroying SAM sites or attacking a base if you fancy the set up.

  • @steveclarke1857
    @steveclarke1857 Год назад +2

    "Hey, it's my buddy Shotgun in the F-22. He's put up some good fights in the past, let's hope we get that again today."
    Neckminnit
    "Sidestrafed again... That is so frustrating."
    "It doesn't move like a normal plane!"
    "It's super super frustrating."
    A rare hint of ever so slight tilt from GS that I'm fucking loving.

  • @Henry-mk9dn
    @Henry-mk9dn Год назад +6

    Still waiting on a demonstration of differential thrust in an f-16.

  • @phillm156
    @phillm156 Год назад +3

    You survived 2 battle! Yay🎉

  • @michaelold6695
    @michaelold6695 Год назад +3

    You can hear the frustration in Growling Sidewinder's voice

  • @Luka_2008
    @Luka_2008 Год назад +2

    2:48 this has got to be the scariest thing ive ever seen LOL

  • @popcornsaidfu8757
    @popcornsaidfu8757 Год назад +2

    5:39 this is why I tune in every day!

  • @princegaming1317
    @princegaming1317 Год назад +3

    I love how he just stopped and waited for the Eurofighter to cross the nose

  • @texasknight5175
    @texasknight5175 Год назад +4

    The first two kills left very messy cockpits in the Eurofighter...

  • @theScottishKoala
    @theScottishKoala Год назад +2

    "Stalling? I- I'm not sure what that is. Is it a food? It sounds gross..."

  • @ManthisR
    @ManthisR Год назад +32

    Loved the video! Love the dogfights, but SEAD and any sort of scenarios involving teams of planes are awesome as well. Love what you do!

  • @JAEUFM
    @JAEUFM Год назад +3

    I swear at times that Raptor was sitting there in the air in a 'no lift' attitude, and just does not fall out of the sky. [Magic I think?]

  • @AscenderPrime
    @AscenderPrime Год назад +1

    That F-22 side strafed into your DM's. brrrt

  • @onegg04
    @onegg04 Год назад +3

    damn brah
    If that Raptor shot arrows instead of cannon rounds
    you'd be a pincushion

  • @donaldcornley9963
    @donaldcornley9963 Год назад +10

    Impressive shooting, the 22 really stitched the euro front to rear.

  • @Eleanor_Ch
    @Eleanor_Ch Год назад +5

    Those shot downs make me think of a quote: "No kill like overkill."

    • @ShawnHinck
      @ShawnHinck Год назад +2

      Better than underdead!

  • @snapshotplays441
    @snapshotplays441 Год назад +9

    GS: I’m gonna try getting an altitude advantage here
    F22: you fool *starts floating*

  • @tejasviroyal8977
    @tejasviroyal8977 Год назад +1

    2:45 was an absolute Chad Moment. The F-22 went from flying parallel to a log saw for the Typhoon. 🤯

  • @CP-in1oe
    @CP-in1oe Год назад +2

    First kill would be the highlight of any DCS highlight reel.

  • @barbaros99
    @barbaros99 Год назад +1

    5:20 - Appreciate the Wile E. Coyote Cam.

  • @paynezerfaust4282
    @paynezerfaust4282 Год назад +3

    Other than the 37mm, that first kill was the most lit up I've ever seen someone. Love it.

  • @miguelruiz8183
    @miguelruiz8183 Год назад +1

    That M61 A1 is one Scary Gun

  • @davidcannon3070
    @davidcannon3070 Год назад +1

    That first kill is one of THE best things I have ever seen.

  • @MikadoRC
    @MikadoRC Год назад +26

    The F-22 manouvering capabilities are mindblowing, it seems it does the best when shedding as much speed as possible and using primarily vector thrusting to keep the nose pointed to the opponent. However doesnt sitting in that low velocity state make it very vulnerable against other attacks or even a potential wingman of the opponent? Maybe it would be interesting to try a 2vs2 scenario

    • @errorabortretry3694
      @errorabortretry3694 Год назад +9

      I still remember from somewhere... that the weakest component in the Raptor is the pilot. I think this shows that off to amazing degrees... especially when it starts doing that falling leaf move...

    • @mcflyingfury
      @mcflyingfury Год назад

      To be fair, both planes were pretty low energy the entire time, that's how supermaneuverable gun fights work

    • @mcflyingfury
      @mcflyingfury Год назад +1

      @@DefinitelyNotEmma Anything that can go toe to toe with a Raptor for that long deserves the supermaneuverability tag. Also the Eurofighter is clearly more maneuverable than the Su-35, and if that plane is supermaneuverable, than so is the Eurofighter xd

    • @NationChosenByGod
      @NationChosenByGod Год назад

      May I remind you that the F-22 does not bleed any energy and can turn at will.

    • @NationChosenByGod
      @NationChosenByGod Год назад

      @@mcflyingfury and the Su-35 lost to the Chinese J-10, so that makes it super maneuverable fighter more maneuverable than Su-35 and other European fighters like rafale, gripen, and Eurofighter.

  • @gsilvy4k570
    @gsilvy4k570 Год назад +4

    That first kill was something else.

  • @h31212
    @h31212 Год назад +3

    Although he was in an F-22, Shotgun really seems like a hell of a player. Those two first kills were just insane

  • @mckennaConfig
    @mckennaConfig Год назад +2

    He did a Falling Leaf to get a guns kill in Round 1! Impressive

  • @CaptainSpacedOut
    @CaptainSpacedOut Год назад +1

    11:34 Raptor: And I took that personally

  • @ardem23
    @ardem23 Год назад +2

    Indeed SG put a show... and the first kill was stunning...

  • @akainguyen5866
    @akainguyen5866 Год назад +1

    growling: tries to get to the ground
    F-22: just floats mid air

  • @JessidGallardo
    @JessidGallardo Год назад +66

    You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting.
    Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements.
    Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.

  • @abimaelmendez4912
    @abimaelmendez4912 Год назад +2

    That first kill was brutal!

  • @TacticalAnthony
    @TacticalAnthony Год назад +2

    the F-22 is one hell of a bird, all the kills were extremely brutal

  • @johneldridge5129
    @johneldridge5129 Год назад +2

    The sigh before round 3......made me chuckle

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 Год назад +1

    3:16 this was the same style of kill Olez pulled in the Eurofighter in fox 2 fight. Like a sick sense of irony

  • @CircsC
    @CircsC Год назад +1

    That last fight the F-22 did its thing the second you started to hope

  • @josh5329
    @josh5329 Год назад +1

    The fact that in the first dogfight, the F 22 straight juked him into his line of fire

  • @Skyfighter64
    @Skyfighter64 Год назад +6

    I just want to see how the F-5E stacks up to its replacement in the light, inexpensive supersonic multirole fighter-bomber arena, the JF-17.

  • @nickt9467
    @nickt9467 Год назад +1

    Other plane: "For ze Motherland!"
    F-22:
    Other plane: "Nevermind"

  • @mattiaciucciove8084
    @mattiaciucciove8084 Год назад +17

    I adore the F22, but I have to give the Eurofighter props as well. Both extremely great at what they do. Nice job on the flying as well!

  • @RT42069
    @RT42069 Год назад +2

    Damn, he turned you into pink mist in that first round

  • @Mcree114
    @Mcree114 Год назад +3

    F-22 moves like a futuristic space fighter with antigravity hovering abilities against planes that have to obey current laws of aerodynamics/physics.

  • @Rawkus105
    @Rawkus105 Год назад +1

    That Eurofighter is one good looking fighter but damn the Raptor just floats like a leaf...a very dangerous leaf.

  • @TheJchip
    @TheJchip Год назад +1

    That first hit is the most brutal gun kill hit along the entire side

  • @captainbeatdown6254
    @captainbeatdown6254 Год назад +1

    2:50 Quake announcer: HEAD SHOT

  • @laaams
    @laaams Год назад +2

    He manages to kill him almost exactly the same way every time😂😂

  • @stevedemarest276
    @stevedemarest276 Год назад +2

    I assume Shotgun was going for the saw-him-in-half shot every time.... just for those extra style points.

  • @DaveSParty
    @DaveSParty Год назад +1

    F-22 just throwing lawn darts along the landscape. Brutal!

  • @scottmaxwell6028
    @scottmaxwell6028 Год назад +17

    What if the the F 22 is guns only, but the challenger is weapons free after the merge? Kinda like the bully fighting with one hand tied behind his back.

    • @edwardking186
      @edwardking186 Год назад +6

      Except that bully is Mike Tyson.😂

  • @fabio1160
    @fabio1160 Год назад +1

    Dogfighting an F-22 must feel like playing foosball with someone, and then discover that he is allowed to constantly "spin", and you are not

  • @Mkby88
    @Mkby88 Год назад +1

    That f22 move was grape . You knew it was coming and still could do anything about it . Kia

  • @MrBYRON-iv5uo
    @MrBYRON-iv5uo Год назад +1

    This man said "f physics" and stopped in mid air!! Allowed GS to walk into his own demise!!🤣

  • @aaronliddell4280
    @aaronliddell4280 Год назад +2

    That first kill was the most rounds on target in a single burst I’ve ever seen! Lol 😂

  • @thomaskok5773
    @thomaskok5773 Год назад +1

    "I'm not gonna rate fight the F22.."
    F22: Are you sure bout that ??

  • @spidlenexor
    @spidlenexor Год назад +2

    damn, shotgun really went HAM with those gun kills

  • @k9s4conservation65
    @k9s4conservation65 Год назад +1

    Hey, at least he stopped punching 20mm into your damn canopy and gave you a chance to eject! lol Good fight!

  • @TexasGreed
    @TexasGreed Год назад +1

    "he keeps pointing it" Crazy it just never hits that point where it sticks, just keeps on swinging around.

  • @ostrich00
    @ostrich00 Год назад +1

    That sigh at the beginning of round 3 😂😂😂

  • @terminalfx
    @terminalfx Год назад +2

    Raptor's got your number, hence the phone ringing 🤣

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад

      HAHAHAAH.....that's a good one.
      Chapeau...Chapeau

  • @NLTops
    @NLTops Год назад +1

    "I'm not going to rate fight an F-22, I'm not out of my mind."
    F22: "I'm not going to give you much of a choice.

  • @jlot9118
    @jlot9118 Год назад +1

    That was wild how that F22 turns on a flat spin