Another part of the game that you didn't mention is the ability to play Ultimate Encounters. Two teams going up against Thanos, Dormammu or Ultron for example or four teams going up against each other battling for Symbiotes is a blast and makes it easy to bring in friends who generally doesn't play tabletop games.
@@MTFTabletop I played Separation Anxiety with three friends who hasn't an interest in tabletop games and they all had a good time. Not enough to buy into the game, but to play again. One expressed an interest to play if the rumoured Sentinel Raid pack gets released.
I just bought Strange and Clea last week, just to tip my toes into the waters and to see how I will enjoy painting the models. Thank you for the video, this just hightens my excitement for my first game whenever I will decide what to buy in addition xD
Sorry for the late reply. RUclips isn't great at notifying me, sometimes. I'm glad it helped hype you up! I have bought....too many MCP models since I made this 😅
And you know what's fantastic about Omega Red being a character you love, no matter what affiliation you play and no matter what models you buy, you can always include him as one of the 10 in your list no matter what you're doing
@@stevehall364 oh really? That’s great, I recently picked up the core set but have no idea about team building mechanic, good to know I can use omega red 😅
I full on switched to this game. Loved marvel all my life and out of everything I've played this game is so simple and way more fun for me. Also haven't ran into and toxic people yet unlike other stuff. I hope people at least try it.
There are alot of games i enjoy more than current 40k. Just started Dropzone Commander and besides being a fraction of the price from GW models, its also alot of fun.
I've looked at that one as well as a few others. The fact that GW no longer has a stranglehold on high-quality plastic minis is really broadening the field.
Great review. One thing worth mentioning is that the rules that come in the box set are not the full rules for the game. You have to download the rules from the website to get the complete rules for the game. It’s no biggie, but I thought it was worth mentioning. My first time here, so I don’t know if you are familiar with this: if you love 40K, Age of Sigmar, and Warhammer Fantasy, but find it too expensive, have a look at One Page Rules (OPR), and their Patreon. Free rules, and 3D print your own armies, for a fraction of the cost of a GW starter set (both in terms of buying the files to print, and how inexpensive printing the miniatures are). I used to play both 40K and Fantasy, around the 4th to 6th editions era of Fantasy, but it simply got too expensive for me. I always wanted to try Necrons in 40K, and I now have the chance, with my collection of Robot Legions for OPR’s Grimdark Future. Also a longtime fan of Wood Elves, and kept all my Wood Elf minis when I got out of the hobby, so I have a huge range of minis to play Wood Elves in their Fantasy settings. I’ve even printed some base converters, so I can swap between round bases for Fantasy, and square bases for Fantasy Regiments. Also, their printed miniature ranges make great proxies for 40K and Age of Sigmar, so you can proxy minis for GW armies at a fraction of their cost, in just about any games outside of tournaments… How do OPR games play? Pretty well. The rules are tight, but pared down, compared to GW. Also, one huge difference is alternate unit activation - you activate one of your units, carry out its turn, and then your opponent activates one of theirs. Rinse and repeat, until you run out of units, and start a new turn. Definitely changes things up from being wiped out in the first turn, before you even get to move a model… Well worth a look as an alternative, or companion, to GW.
I basically jumped ship into this game. After playing 40k for about 2~ years on TTS, and about 1~ year in person, I just can't have fun with it. Actually playing the game is fun, but list building feels like it matters way more than actually playing the game. I've gone into games where my opponent asks me if I really want to play it out after a round or two, because my 2000pt roster gets shat on by their roster. And Vice Versa, I've had opponents scoop after 1 turn because they realize they haven't picked the right units to deal with my units. That is incredibly unfun. On top of that, In my 1 year of playing in person, I've had to buy: Core Rules 9th codex for my army GT 2020 GT 2021 (I think? I don't remember if it was a 2nd book or not) Warzone Charadon (i think this was part 2 of something, I forget but I had to have it for sisters rules I wanted to use at a tourney) Warzone Nachmund I also got bailed on on half of my games at my LGS weekly league because people didn't want to commit 4 hours for what was 40k in early 2022 (possibly the most unfun period of 40k I've ever played) I got into MCP as a side game and now I'm seriously considering selling my 40k army. I don't see myself playing 40k anymore outside of being a fill for my LGS when they need another person for 40k stuff.
I contemplated getting out of big 40k but sticking with Kill Team. I think I've settled on keeping my Black Templars, but yeah I largely agree. After just a couple of months not actively following every release, I feel almost hopelessly behind.
What I appreciate most with MCP and Kill Team is that you don't have to paint 300 models, for one army... Yes, I do love 30K/40K/Epic, but painting only 10-20 models, makes it so much easier to get it all done. Tbh, I wouldn't have minded if the "Crisis Protocol" rules/models themselves had been available for another setting, since I'm just so tired of the bloated M.U. Nice and informative video! (y)
After largely going over to skirmish games over the last couple of years, it's hard to imagine painting entire armies in a single color scheme again...
@@MTFTabletop I fully understand and feel that. Which is the reason why the armies that was started 30 years ago still aren't nearly finished^^ 10 models is my max, when it comes to painting the same. Then I go insane (even is using an airbrush really helps). So skirmish or board games is where I put my energy atm. But, I do feel that there's something special with seeing the 50+ eldar/space wolves models + machines beside each other.
As far as I know the Aparment Buildings and the Sanctum Sanctorum cannot be thrown since they doesn't count as "interactive" terrain features. There are some symbols underneath the terrain next to the size number that indicate that.
Just purchased the KS version of Core Space First Born wanting to get into a minis skirmish game. I wonder how this compares. Your an excellent speaker by the way, I thought I wouldn't make it through 25 minutes and they just flew by.
I was watching some MCP gameplay tonight and it did look really quick and easy to play and a lot of fun. Reminded me of One Page Rules gameplay: Play the game, not spend your time looking up rules. Would love to see more MCP coverage, along with other quick, easy to play games that put fun first. I think GW could make their games more streamlined and fun, I think Warcry and Underworlds seem better designed, but their 40K content is just a mess.
I would love to showcase some MCP gameplay, and I will, but it necessitates some more painting on my part. I will also agree that GW has made big strides in some of its properties. For whatever reason, alternating activations and 40k are still oil and water. Also, paying $300+ per year for rules updates is nuts. I was encouraged by the quarterly balance sheet, but literally everything else they are doing is pushing me away.
Playing both I can't really compare the two in all honesty. I could maybe compare it to something like...Kill Team, Underworlds, etc but not full 40k. Both are great games that deliver different things.
Im here thanks to Xmen my first character box is Storm and Cyclops they are my fav Xmen everrr later I plan to buy Cable box , Rogue gambit box and I just printed Colossus
Welcome! I've played a decent number of games with Rogue and Gambit (though in a Brotherhood list, not X-Men), and Rogue in particular can be quite strong.
Got about two thirds of all current releases, it's a damned fun game. Just still a little trick to get games on the regular locally. But with mcp there is a large table top simulator community. But that said nothing beats it in person seeing those colourful tight wearing miniatures do battle.
I feel you there. Getting games in is often the biggest challenge. Where I live, summer basically makes up the town's entire annual economy, so much of any leisure activity gets squeezed pretty hard.
I havent found any of the model difficult to assembled, but there are some needlessly small parts. Like why does Starlord's head need to be 3 or parts?! Or Venom fist hand has the curled fingers separate, Shuri Panther Gauntlets are multiple parts.
AMG has answered those exact questions in their painting streams. The plastic they use is cast in metal molds, which don't allow for undercuts, so those parts need to be separate, otherwise they'd have to be simplified, resulting in less dynamic poses and reduced detail.
I've never played any games with mini figs before but have recently ordered MCP, can anyone recommend some starter tools for prepping and painting the figs?
For basic hobby tools, you're going to want a good pair of clippers or side-cutters to get the models off the sprue and a hobby/x-acto knife to clean up any flash or mold lines. For gluing them together, I like plastic cement, as it essentially welds the pieces together, which can help ensure there aren't gaps in the completed model. For paints and painting supplies, there are loads of brands out there. I have become a huge fan of Pro Acryl by Monument Hobbies. There's a link and discount code in the description of this video. Other brands that are quite popular are Vallejo, Citadel, and Army Painter.
You can't even compare how other game companies (atomic mass) treat their players and communities..... To how GW treats their walking wallets. I mean community. As you said, free rules and printable cards speaks massive volumes about their attitude
20 plus year 40K player here. I also play MCP and Shatterpoint. None are better than the other, just different. The problem with MCP right now is the release is getting stale. And then when they do put out releases, they redid the core set.....so lazy.
@@robertjameson1959 I've been thinking about using Ghost Rider as a way to level up my fire OSL. In fact, I'm thinking about doing up a whole Midnight Sons team. The Damnation arc of Doctor Strange is just too good.
@@MTFTabletop that sounds like a damn good time! I’m eyeing the Blade and Moon knight minis next. A Morbius would make me happy lol. Maybe we can get an OSL tutorial video from with the GR model?? Pretty please?
It's very telling when a game is just as much fun to lose as to win. The game does a great job at just being enjoyable.
Master of Magnet is no joke.
Do more MCP content. Can always use more voices bring this game to people's attention. Found this video in a MCP Facebook group. Thanks for the vid
I definitely plan to. Thanks for watching!
Another part of the game that you didn't mention is the ability to play Ultimate Encounters. Two teams going up against Thanos, Dormammu or Ultron for example or four teams going up against each other battling for Symbiotes is a blast and makes it easy to bring in friends who generally doesn't play tabletop games.
Good point. There were just two of us, but we did try the PVE version of Ultron.
@@MTFTabletop I played Separation Anxiety with three friends who hasn't an interest in tabletop games and they all had a good time. Not enough to buy into the game, but to play again. One expressed an interest to play if the rumoured Sentinel Raid pack gets released.
Once I saw how beautiful the sculpts for the Guardians of the Galaxy where, I was sold, I adore the characters and I wanna play as them so badly
I'm resisting the urge to buy GotG until I finish the Midnight Sons.
You can buy the entire MCP line for less than a 2000-point 40k army.
I find that, alone, makes it an easier sell.
I just bought Strange and Clea last week, just to tip my toes into the waters and to see how I will enjoy painting the models.
Thank you for the video, this just hightens my excitement for my first game whenever I will decide what to buy in addition xD
Sorry for the late reply. RUclips isn't great at notifying me, sometimes. I'm glad it helped hype you up! I have bought....too many MCP models since I made this 😅
😬 ordered my first MCP mini - Omega Red because I love the character, can feel the pull. Great video man been enjoying MCP stuff at the moment
My first affiliation was definitely affected by my love of the 90s X-Men cartoon.
And you know what's fantastic about Omega Red being a character you love, no matter what affiliation you play and no matter what models you buy, you can always include him as one of the 10 in your list no matter what you're doing
@@stevehall364 oh really? That’s great, I recently picked up the core set but have no idea about team building mechanic, good to know I can use omega red 😅
I full on switched to this game. Loved marvel all my life and out of everything I've played this game is so simple and way more fun for me. Also haven't ran into and toxic people yet unlike other stuff. I hope people at least try it.
My experience is very similar. I'm going to keep going with Kill Team, but my painting schedule has more and more folks in tights in it...
There are alot of games i enjoy more than current 40k. Just started Dropzone Commander and besides being a fraction of the price from GW models, its also alot of fun.
I've looked at that one as well as a few others. The fact that GW no longer has a stranglehold on high-quality plastic minis is really broadening the field.
Great review. One thing worth mentioning is that the rules that come in the box set are not the full rules for the game. You have to download the rules from the website to get the complete rules for the game. It’s no biggie, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
My first time here, so I don’t know if you are familiar with this: if you love 40K, Age of Sigmar, and Warhammer Fantasy, but find it too expensive, have a look at One Page Rules (OPR), and their Patreon. Free rules, and 3D print your own armies, for a fraction of the cost of a GW starter set (both in terms of buying the files to print, and how inexpensive printing the miniatures are).
I used to play both 40K and Fantasy, around the 4th to 6th editions era of Fantasy, but it simply got too expensive for me. I always wanted to try Necrons in 40K, and I now have the chance, with my collection of Robot Legions for OPR’s Grimdark Future. Also a longtime fan of Wood Elves, and kept all my Wood Elf minis when I got out of the hobby, so I have a huge range of minis to play Wood Elves in their Fantasy settings. I’ve even printed some base converters, so I can swap between round bases for Fantasy, and square bases for Fantasy Regiments.
Also, their printed miniature ranges make great proxies for 40K and Age of Sigmar, so you can proxy minis for GW armies at a fraction of their cost, in just about any games outside of tournaments…
How do OPR games play? Pretty well. The rules are tight, but pared down, compared to GW. Also, one huge difference is alternate unit activation - you activate one of your units, carry out its turn, and then your opponent activates one of theirs. Rinse and repeat, until you run out of units, and start a new turn. Definitely changes things up from being wiped out in the first turn, before you even get to move a model…
Well worth a look as an alternative, or companion, to GW.
I have some OPR minis cooking in my printer right now 😀
I basically jumped ship into this game.
After playing 40k for about 2~ years on TTS, and about 1~ year in person, I just can't have fun with it. Actually playing the game is fun, but list building feels like it matters way more than actually playing the game.
I've gone into games where my opponent asks me if I really want to play it out after a round or two, because my 2000pt roster gets shat on by their roster. And Vice Versa, I've had opponents scoop after 1 turn because they realize they haven't picked the right units to deal with my units. That is incredibly unfun. On top of that, In my 1 year of playing in person, I've had to buy:
Core Rules
9th codex for my army
GT 2020
GT 2021 (I think? I don't remember if it was a 2nd book or not)
Warzone Charadon (i think this was part 2 of something, I forget but I had to have it for sisters rules I wanted to use at a tourney)
Warzone Nachmund
I also got bailed on on half of my games at my LGS weekly league because people didn't want to commit 4 hours for what was 40k in early 2022 (possibly the most unfun period of 40k I've ever played)
I got into MCP as a side game and now I'm seriously considering selling my 40k army. I don't see myself playing 40k anymore outside of being a fill for my LGS when they need another person for 40k stuff.
I contemplated getting out of big 40k but sticking with Kill Team. I think I've settled on keeping my Black Templars, but yeah I largely agree. After just a couple of months not actively following every release, I feel almost hopelessly behind.
YES! THANK YOU!
2:00 FATAL ATTRACTION!
What I appreciate most with MCP and Kill Team is that you don't have to paint 300 models, for one army... Yes, I do love 30K/40K/Epic, but painting only 10-20 models, makes it so much easier to get it all done.
Tbh, I wouldn't have minded if the "Crisis Protocol" rules/models themselves had been available for another setting, since I'm just so tired of the bloated M.U.
Nice and informative video! (y)
After largely going over to skirmish games over the last couple of years, it's hard to imagine painting entire armies in a single color scheme again...
@@MTFTabletop I fully understand and feel that. Which is the reason why the armies that was started 30 years ago still aren't nearly finished^^
10 models is my max, when it comes to painting the same. Then I go insane (even is using an airbrush really helps).
So skirmish or board games is where I put my energy atm.
But, I do feel that there's something special with seeing the 50+ eldar/space wolves models + machines beside each other.
Make more MCP content! The Community needs you!
Between 3d printing and the free rules, you can get into the game for basically free.
But we buy local cause we want to support our LGS
As far as I know the Aparment Buildings and the Sanctum Sanctorum cannot be thrown since they doesn't count as "interactive" terrain features. There are some symbols underneath the terrain next to the size number that indicate that.
Huh. I must have missed that. TBH I'll probably still let Hulk and She-Hulk do it at my table. Is there any Size 5 besides those?
Just purchased the KS version of Core Space First Born wanting to get into a minis skirmish game. I wonder how this compares.
Your an excellent speaker by the way, I thought I wouldn't make it through 25 minutes and they just flew by.
I was watching some MCP gameplay tonight and it did look really quick and easy to play and a lot of fun. Reminded me of One Page Rules gameplay: Play the game, not spend your time looking up rules.
Would love to see more MCP coverage, along with other quick, easy to play games that put fun first.
I think GW could make their games more streamlined and fun, I think Warcry and Underworlds seem better designed, but their 40K content is just a mess.
I would love to showcase some MCP gameplay, and I will, but it necessitates some more painting on my part.
I will also agree that GW has made big strides in some of its properties. For whatever reason, alternating activations and 40k are still oil and water. Also, paying $300+ per year for rules updates is nuts. I was encouraged by the quarterly balance sheet, but literally everything else they are doing is pushing me away.
Rest assured, I've been painting some MCP on the sly 😉
Thank you for this One!
MCP is a great game. Very well thought out and easy to play. Thanks for this!
It's SO much fun
Iv just made the jump to this game. 40K just getting overwhelming to play on a casual level for me
I definitely feel you on that one.
Nice XKCD reference!!
I would totally wear an Up-Goer Five t-shirt.
Playing both I can't really compare the two in all honesty. I could maybe compare it to something like...Kill Team, Underworlds, etc but not full 40k. Both are great games that deliver different things.
Fair enough. Part of it for me may be getting away from army-scale games in general.
Can’t wait to play this game
Im here thanks to Xmen my first character box is Storm and Cyclops they are my fav Xmen everrr later I plan to buy Cable box , Rogue gambit box and I just printed Colossus
Welcome! I've played a decent number of games with Rogue and Gambit (though in a Brotherhood list, not X-Men), and Rogue in particular can be quite strong.
Printed colossus?
Got about two thirds of all current releases, it's a damned fun game. Just still a little trick to get games on the regular locally. But with mcp there is a large table top simulator community. But that said nothing beats it in person seeing those colourful tight wearing miniatures do battle.
I feel you there. Getting games in is often the biggest challenge. Where I live, summer basically makes up the town's entire annual economy, so much of any leisure activity gets squeezed pretty hard.
I havent found any of the model difficult to assembled, but there are some needlessly small parts. Like why does Starlord's head need to be 3 or parts?! Or Venom fist hand has the curled fingers separate, Shuri Panther Gauntlets are multiple parts.
Having built some of the older sculpts and the newer ones, it seems like they're getting better about things like that.
AMG has answered those exact questions in their painting streams. The plastic they use is cast in metal molds, which don't allow for undercuts, so those parts need to be separate, otherwise they'd have to be simplified, resulting in less dynamic poses and reduced detail.
@@Robeatnik I havent watched all their streams. so thanks for the info! Im glad theyve addressed it
So much better than 40k rule wise.
Been playing midnight suns which makes me wanna play this haha
I love the game. Have you played grim dark future by one page rules
Better THAN 40K!
Whaaat? MCP is more fun than the sweatlord-system 40k? Color me shocked!
The scale of MCP is actually 38 mm.
its way better than payhammer lol.
I've never played any games with mini figs before but have recently ordered MCP, can anyone recommend some starter tools for prepping and painting the figs?
For basic hobby tools, you're going to want a good pair of clippers or side-cutters to get the models off the sprue and a hobby/x-acto knife to clean up any flash or mold lines. For gluing them together, I like plastic cement, as it essentially welds the pieces together, which can help ensure there aren't gaps in the completed model. For paints and painting supplies, there are loads of brands out there. I have become a huge fan of Pro Acryl by Monument Hobbies. There's a link and discount code in the description of this video. Other brands that are quite popular are Vallejo, Citadel, and Army Painter.
@@MTFTabletop Thanks I wasn't too worried about paints but the other tools are good to know, any recommendations for an airbrush for a beginner?
You had me until "nuln oil sucks".
You can't even compare how other game companies (atomic mass) treat their players and communities..... To how GW treats their walking wallets. I mean community. As you said, free rules and printable cards speaks massive volumes about their attitude
It really is night and day. I've also been meaning to get more into Para Bellum's games, as they have a similar community-minded reputation.
So your comic book are 8 years old 🤪
20 plus year 40K player here. I also play MCP and Shatterpoint. None are better than the other, just different.
The problem with MCP right now is the release is getting stale. And then when they do put out releases, they redid the core set.....so lazy.
I dont like marvel and super heroes. So this is sadly not for me
The premise here is silly. 40k is a crap game, and there's dozens of rule sets that are vastly superior.
You say you bought a lot of characters… wtf do you do for a living because those things are NOT cheap!!!
I'm far from independently wealthy. I tend to live fairly frugally outside of buying toy soldiers and toy soldier accessories ;)
@@MTFTabletop lmao fair enough. I’ll be buying ghost rider within the next week or so and I’ll tell my wife it’s your fault.
@@robertjameson1959 I've been thinking about using Ghost Rider as a way to level up my fire OSL. In fact, I'm thinking about doing up a whole Midnight Sons team. The Damnation arc of Doctor Strange is just too good.
@@MTFTabletop that sounds like a damn good time! I’m eyeing the Blade and Moon knight minis next. A Morbius would make me happy lol. Maybe we can get an OSL tutorial video from with the GR model?? Pretty please?