What REALLY happened at Paris Major? Valve had to intervene.
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BLAST Paris Major had a lot of good teams get kicked out on early stages. This thing has an explanation, and it's name is franchise league. Today, we'll talk about it.
Timings:
0:00 - The role of Majors in CS:GO
1:06 - Missions on CYBERSHOKE
1:42 - At the start, things were normal
2:28 - For Valve, it's a matter of reputation
5:03 - ESL and BLAST must make profits
6:18 - The first red flags
7:10 - Valve warned everyone
7:56 - Another leaked ESL contract
9:40 - But why teams had signed this document?
9:56 - $20.000.000 for a contract with ESL?
11:07 - New reality in CS:GO
11:42 - BLAST Paris Major
11:58 - What happened in Paris? A true explanation
14:05 - Valve had to do something
15:44 - The end 
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Valve is like that dad who doesn't do much or says much...but when it does, its always something really fucking important
He's just like my dad (except that last part I guess)
Well thats sad :(
I hope you get a better dad next time.
@@VengeanceCore dw that was just analogy. My actual dad was good however long he was alive
@@VengeanceCorebro said next time
Yeah. A bad dad.
The thing that valve was afraid of happening happened, the tournaments became non-competitive and focused more on bringing in more money, the result? Top and popular teams became tired and lower tier or less popular teams had lower chance of competing on tournaments.
this comment is a summary of the clip you just watched? what..
@@rob-q-it’s bro’s diary just let him be
expected stupidity from weeb
Its becoming boring to see same teams over and over
Nice try
This is exactly why I and a lot of people *stopped* watching tournaments. Keeping the same big teams didnt make it more appealing, it made it boring.
Watching underdogs fight against legendary teams is exciting, even if they lose you can appreciate the underdog teams skill and effort, and it acted as a beacon for players who aspire to earn their way to a T1 spot.
Corporations killed CS a long time ago for many of us. I miss the days where CS tournaments were about CS and not money.
LAN tournaments 😢
I used to sometimes tune in to watch comp CSGO a long long time but you're right. It didn't take even the more casual players long to realize that the biggest tournaments were just the same couple people playing against eachother again and again with the same teams participating. It was obvious it was all about connections and the money to these orgs and tournament holders.
Unfortunately, its not viable to just run events for fun. Players need to get paid, the orgs that pay them need to make profit, the companies running events need to make money. You cant just have these massive events losing millions every time, how is that meant to work? Anyone who isnt delusional or blinded by nostalgia will tell you how much more exciting the CS events in 2017-2023 are compared to older events that were often online. Not only was there much less hype and much lower production quality, the actual level of the gameplay was infinitely lower. Some random top 100 team today that nobody even watches would 16-0 the best teams of 2014 over and over. This constant improvement wouldnt be possible without a whole industry supporting the players.
@@Azaqa I think we can likely find a system where both the needs of the players and the integrity of the sport are both met, can we not? Valve making these guidelines is the first step. The next step is the organizers figuring out how to balance it while maintaining the integrity of the game.
In my opinion. The integrity of the game is more important than the furthering of the scene. If the scene dies, so be it. At least it won't be bastardized by corporate interests.
The organizers put themselves above the players. We could have a world where the players are supported and the tournaments are fair. But organizers want to be the main benefactor of it. That's the issue. I'm not blaming them for wanting to turn a profit off of it, but the CS scene needs an organizer that's willing to take small profits opposed to big ones in the name of the sport. And if that's unrealistic, and it probably is, then what's the point of even playing the sport to be honest besides selling people a false reality of what professional CS is? It's less than a competition and more of a popularity contest, like the NFL.
@@Scyborg832 I dont think you are living in reality. ESL operates at a loss, probably every TO does.
The thing is that the orgs really set themselves up for this. When you have a tournament system like this where the same teams are basically guaranteed a spot due to their visibility and presence, a problem occurs that a lot of people aren't prepared for. These teams are well known and GUARANTEED a spot; which means there's less need for the teams to stay good and stay on top of the latest strategies. It allows for a type of stagnation to occur; you have the same teams facing each other with very similar results, because no one feels a need to really improve. You still get paid, regardless of how well you do or place. And because the teams have, essentially, stagnated and gotten complacent, it allows for a team of underdogs to come in and show them what for. Because said underdogs are going to come in with a specific strategy for every single team they could face. Because these teams are well known and popular, their favorite strategies are, likely, also well known. Said underdogs will be prepared for those teams and have counter strategies to use against them. But because these underdog teams are a lot smaller, it's unlikely the big teams will have even heard of these smaller teams, much less have strategies to beat them. They'll just fall back on their stagnated, complacent strategies, so they fall right into the trap and get humiliated. It shows that when you're guaranteed a spot in the biggest tournaments and a big payout regardless of results, you don't really put a lot more effort into improving your game. Why would you need to? It's not like some team of lesser players is going to come out of nowhere and show the entire world you're a sham. After all, who would possibly care about shaking things up?
Well, apparently, Valve cared. And you do NOT want the creators of the game you're making money off of to be staring you down like that. They might just do something to remind you who is the boss here.
well said. business safety breeds complacency and risk aversion.
Reminds me of the FIFA world cup a couple years back, where 8 teams were placed in advance, one in each of the 8 brackets of the group phase. They were the host and some of the most successful teams. And putting them into different groups means we don't get the super tight record champion vs record champion matches before it even goes into eliminations.
how would/did it get stagnant with qualifiers, 8 random teams had their chance multiple times each year. the top 10 we know were the top 10 for a reason, they were simply the best, maybe t1 csgo in general got stagnant but they were still playing current "metas" or whatever the teams thought was best. however much its all about money, the teams are at the top because of skill, cant buy skill
I am absolutely shocked, shocked (!!!) that a game that only has a small rotation of maps, of which people tend to play the same 3-4 maps for the past... 20 years (?) -- that they could possibly get complacent
@@Zombie1Boy It's not like there isn't reason to consider this and there hasn't been other tournament scenes that had similar things happen. When you have everyone playing in a certain way, with no real changes, things can happen that make everyone look like fools. Consider when Hungrybox started becoming huge in Smash Bros Melee. Until he started playing, the preferred playstyle in Melee was hit it hard, hit it fast. This means the most used characters and stages allowed for this playstyle, with people rushing each other down and the game became an almost metagame of 'who can out-prioritize the other', so the most used characters would be Fox and Marth, since their priority was so much higher than most characters.
Then along comes Hungrybox, playing as an aerial character who slowed the pace of combat, playing off of people's impatience to draw them into traps. And he proceeded to school just about everyone. From there, people started messing around with other characters, forcing the meta to change more and more as new playstyles suddenly were preferable to just rushing each other down.
It's refreshing to know that a goliath company like Valve cares more about its community than the money they make, When Gabin passes the torch, I hope he picks the best hand to take it.
I was straight up telling my partner the other day when OWL ended that how Valve handled CSGO esport leagues is why it survived and OWL didnt. Owl wanted the success and money from the start. I lost interest when it turned out teams were completely different rosters most of the time each season instead of building a team identity.
I havent watched pro CGI in a few years but the last time I did I could still cheer NIP because they held the same identity. Even when players left and newer ones joined (poor Allu got so memed on haha) it wasnt like a team overhaul but a natural moving on.
Fun fact, they don't really have to please investors since valve is privately owned company. That's why they care about their community.
Sure Valve is better than other companies however they aren't any good either. You might think they do this thing always when the truth is they're hard to reach and barely communicates with the community. Pros and fans have love/hate relationship with Valve. (csgo/dota2)
@@saintientSeems like they care more about ethics than pleasing anyone. That's fine with me.
@@user-nr3nq3ns8jYes and no. Valve owns the biggest gaming online Store, Valve convinced Sony to sell their games on it, Valve convinced Microsoft to sell their games on it. Steam Machine is a solid product and is doing well. Apparently Valve doesnt need investors to grow.
And then when these smaller teams "overachieve", their players just get poached and ends these small franchises keeping the cycle tier 1 gatekeeping. But tbf blast + esl do put on amazing productions.
It still shock me how this channel only had 3k subscribers with this packed content.
It is english version of a russian channel, which has lots more subs
the channel is well-funded by their servers, so they can afford high quality. I think it's mostly for promotion
Really? Half these segments are just fucking filler.. But the same can be said about the most popular channels so maybe they should fit right in.
For a start a shirt video that actually manages to talk about nothing we didn't already know for the whole le gth of the video, added to that a shitty click bait title.
They have twice that now, but it's a niche single game channel, those aren't always huge. There's exceptions of course.
I went into this video thinking you had a couple hundred thousand subs, but I’m surprised to find out that you have less than 4000. It seemed like a video from someone with 500k, keep up the good work! I’d like to see more of this
exactly what i thought too
same here, awesome work, morr of this please
that's cause you dont realize most of the info is wrong
100% - Hope this channel blows up!
@@SimtalniusWould be nice if you could back that claim with some pointers on the errors so we could be aware of mistakes
One thing I noticed in the last years tournament was that the teams competing over the top spots or just present at the tournament were always the same. But I didn't pay much attention into that. Now everything makes sense, thanks for the video!
Valve did a great job on preventing CSGO becoming a bureaucracy of big orgs like ESL and BLAST.
Hopefully, CS2 will be just like before in 2014, open qualifiers and minors.
let's just hope the inevitable lower price pools of tournaments and lower salaries for players wont push pros away towards valulrant
@@xArsVivendi It would never get to that point. All else fails, cs majors can start to crowdfund for larger pools like dota.
@@GiantFlamingClasherthis and valorant’s scene isn’t much better, thr partnered orgs are currently heavily cutting pay, even EG, which won champions in august, are making players choose between paycuts or being a free agent
@hoofed3096 is naw wtf 💀, and valorant players be acting confused wondering why we shit on their game lmfao.
@@hoofed3096 That’s cool and all but you’re just speaking in moonspeak
Very good video, explained the situation very well for anyone out of the loop, but was also very informational for someone who already knows about the situation without making the video tedious, great job!
very interesting, I'm glad to see some professionally produced content covering the inner workings of competitive cs.
i like a Valve decision. in Major everyone should have a chance to play even an underdog team.
First time the mighty algo has raised you to my feed. Great stuff. For someone who witnessed the early days of online gaming and esports, to see the level that these events have grown to (and the money around the business of esports), utterly blows my mind.
First time seeing your channel - this was great info and I appreciate videos like this! Some deep dives on teams would be cool also! thanks
a great video! glad you decided to go for it, it's been a significant issue in the scene.
This is exactly the kind of video that creators fear to make, because it's controversial and niche, and they don't think it'll perform well. However, if they decide to do it anyway, they get rewarded rightfully so. What a banger video - we need more of these!
Dude has less than 10k subs, and the video got more than 300k views, I'm positive that this video wasn't a failure.
@@NocturnalPyro That's what he's saying. That videos that creators are scared to make (because they are controversial and niche) often end up being rewarded for doing so. I don't even watch/play CS:GO and yet here I am. Because it's a nice little video essay on how a problem came to be for this competitive sport.
As someone who doesn't play CS, nor watch it, I think you did a great job on this video. I am into the esports scene, so I am grateful that you presented this in a well thought out way and understandable to someone not in your scene.
S-Tier Channel, W content, godlike entertainment
Thanks bro!
I've been busy and it makes me very much appreciate the summary in this video with great editing. Please do more of this!
Sweet, props to Valve for this. Glad to see them doing something good for the scene
Thanks for the video! I read the most recent update and felt it was going to change everything but never knew the whole context and now I do :D
Dang… I didn’t know any of that… also your video is so well put together. I’m sorry you presume you won’t get as many views on this because it’s such a good video.
This was randomly suggested and WOW - I cannot believe how much content was packed into it! Well done CYBERSHOKE - +1 subscriber!
Man I hope y’all make more videos like this, I really enjoyed it!
Explained the situation really well, great video :)
Really awesome video! So interesting to hear the details and analysis of the situation! I had noticed these changing things about which teams were qualifying and had only a vague understanding of why. Thank you for explaininh the full picture! Subbed.
Great work by Valve by calling out financial gate keeping!
Subbed because of this video. Explained and presented very well!
This is a great breakdown of the minutiae of what was immediately observable in watching recent tournaments - that the tier 2 teams were just playing more than the tier 1 teams due to the necessity of playing a lot of smaller tournaments for prize money and sponsorship awareness.
I really loved this video. Please make more like this. Considering it's 5 times more popular than your next most viewed video, it seems like the audience is responding well, too.
Such an underrated channel keep up the good work
It's insane. Something will happen about it! So yes keep it up!!
Well researched and well paced vid. You earned a sub dude. Good job.
Thanks for breaking this down so well, great video!
Excellent video. I didn't really understand that all of this was as connected as it apparently is.
This is the kind of video that is enticing, Relevant and informative. Especially with the release oc CS2, this is needed more than ever to understand the next few majors and it's increase or decline
Awesome quality video! Can't wait to see the next one!
Very nice video! Great script and narration!
Terrific insight into the Counterstrike community. Excellent footage and well paced. Definitely a win.
Valve actually did something right for once. Not only is it not fair for smaller teams, but it’s embarrassing at a major when tier 2 teams are crushing everyone. Good move all around 👍
what do you mean for once?
I might be living under the rock because I rarely hear negative news about valve.
put that tier 2 teams on the same circuit with faze,g2,navi,vitality tier1 team, im pretty sure they will get crush 8/10, major or not its just 1 tournament, and 1 tournament doesnt determine that they are "consistent" enough to challenge tier1 team. facts is after major they all tier2 team back to their habitat getting crush with tier1 team or even no namer team.
"Valve actually did something right for once" stop smoking all that crack,Valve are one of the few companies that don't shaft their fan-base every chase they get to milk money.This dude.
@@semafreak relax my guy. I just meant smaller orgs are getting their chance:
@@thomasshelby5454 i agree. This kind of thing makes unfair for the tier 1 teams since they dont have much data against tier 2 team while tier 2 teams have years of data and time to prepare for those team. Thats why we see a lot of upsets in major, especially on bo1s between tier 1 and tier 2 teams
Thanks for the effort put into this video! Loved it! Liked & subscribed!
"we suspect this one might not get a lot of views" yea that didn't go as planned
Fantastic video. Not entirely what I expected to learn when I read the title, but very glad I clicked.
heard about the major but i didn’t really pay attention to it. thx for the video to give me a recap about it
the video is high quality and entertaining, picked topic is also interesting. well done
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This is top content.
way better than most videos about CS.
Actually liked the more indepth analysis, more of this pls!
Gonna be super interesting to see how the events go and who will play in the coming years. Glad they stepped it.
Really good info! you deserve more subscribers
Fully agree. Especially at the end of the season is super boring watching the same teams playing each other. In Blast even format is created in the way you can't be eliminated and team very often plays against each other couple of times at the same tournament. It is silly.
Damn great video. Definitely make more of these analyses, just wish this video had a less corporate feel
Big props to valve.
For understanding competition and not letting corporate take advantage of their labor and players, by sucking them dry to the bones for profits.
Good little rundown of the changes unknown soldier
This video is fantastic absolutely you deserve more views. This is AAA quality!!!!
Nice and quality content, keep up the good work!
I really liked this video. I think some anylistic/informative videos from time to time are a great idea.
This video deserves some recognition!
Great video, thanks for sharing!
never seen you before but this video is great, i'd do more videos like this
I hope this gets a lot of views, cuz it is a great video and i would love more like this
S-tier video from an obscure S-tier channel, will start watching all your videos and keep up the great work!
Just found your channel. Loving this content!
i really enjoyed this , thank u . only wish it was longer tbh :( anyway thank u for this
great video very entertaining. keep it up!
this is a really good video, please do more!
I hope this action will give more slots in tournaments from Asia region.
Im glad theyre making it more possible for random teams to get onto the pro atage
This was a fascinating video; please make more of these!
What the hell, I didn’t know LockPickingLawyer was so invested in CS.
Hahaha I can’t unhear it now
This channel should have atleast a 250K sub...high effort content!
Great explanation. Thank you!
You can't have full franchise in majority of sports as it creates it's own bubble in the end where you get sucked into it too much. Having 50/50 (half teams in franchise and half not) system in my mind is the best what you can have. You still can develop a business model and revenue from the franchise aspect as you are guarantee that big names are always going to be present and you will always get pure talent and still to your biggest tournament from non franchise teams. And it ensures that the franchised teams have to push themself to the limit.
Valve sees the bigger picture, the fact that competitiveness is a main part of counter strike and that anyone can make get to a major is more important than some money grabbing org who got lazy. Teams should come and go like the early days and it will be great for CS2 to see some new teams and innovative counter strike.
These are really good videos you guys are putting out.
If you guys would take one criticism then try to make a story more like a attention arc. Setup, Climax and aftermath or resolution type story telling. The video is really great though from the production and as an essay being very informational.
Good Job. Keep it going! Oh and boo partner, vip leagues!
Most underrated Channel on RUclips. Keep it up guys!
I didn't know about contracts / the Louvre agreement, makes sense now why so many terrible no-name teams appear out of nowhere and good players confusingly just falling off in skill
hope to see more videos similar to this one because im subscribing!!
such a well made video keep doing it plsss
Glad to see you growing
To put esl and blast in the same bucket is so naive, blast is fully franchised with just one open qual slot but esl events had many open qual spots
thats too complicated, just blast them all in same bracket ezpz
They still do the same though, being partners through contracts vs underdogs that arent partners without a spot.
yeah definitely some pros and cons.
I love knowing the big teams well... the players and behind the scenes of the sports.. gives it more depth and drama. love the rivalries and such.. but yes, the newer teams needs to have access to show what they have to the world... that creates underdog games which will help entertainment and such
Please more content like this!
Excellent analysis between the teams / tournamt organisers and Valve (game developer) - profit driven / sustainability vs game competitiveness / community driven.
I love these kind of content keep it up
Excellent Content Sir. so knowledgeable. Thank you
Brilliant video, thank you guys ❤
Making a "heart" with your hands earns you a free throat punch. Love the vid
I want to see more! Subbed
3 weeks later and ESL is already cancelling their first operations…
great video keep it up also nice servers
I needed video like this, I didn't know what was going on at all behind the scenes. It was weird to see the same players over and over.
They seemed like gods but in reality even better players than them were locked behind paywall.
That was top fucking quality production for such a small channel, thoroughly enjoyed the vid mate. You defo earned my like and sub
Not a small channel this is an English translation of one of the biggest Russian channels
just played kz on your server for first time and youre top of my youtuber recommended. crazy
Very good video - great insight.
I think in general, having a level playing field brings the best results. Eventually things will cement either way, with the best players playing for the best teams, which will be and stay well known.
In fact it could very well increase the pay for the players as a team is only worth something if they win.
This emphasis on fairness puts a spotlight on the best of 1s we have in the major right now, results in really random knockouts, I feel.
YES! More best of 3s for sure!
It will be interesting with new teams and players. And all the old teams will have to step up.
Really good, keep it up!
Good stuff man.
Good video, stock footage was a bit too flashy for my taste.
very interesting analysis of the situation, thx !