As a Scot, I don't really want the UK to break up. If the UK was an actual union where every member was treated equally and had equal power in politics (kind of like the USA but ideally better than the USA) I would be very happy staying. Sadly that is not the case so I think we have no choice but to leave. I think if we're going to leave it's going to have to be within the next few years. Almost the entire justification for leaving is how we wanted to stay in the EU and more recently the handling of COVID, but I think if we wait too long we lose all credibility in that argument. If we're going to leave it needs to be before 2025 in my opinion. By then brexit will most likely not be something even remember that well and COVID will be mostly forgotten as well (hopefully) so there's really no good justification for leaving at that point other than us just wanting to leave because "fuck the english amirite"
...so you're saying the Isle of Man has so little to recommend it that the British, who were famously interested in taking over everything they could sail to, basically only bothered because it was in their back yard
@@riptidemonzarc3103 yeah I mean you have tailless cats and six horned Sheep but the English invaded in the 1200s and queen Elizabeth is technically lord of mann
It's not going to survive this decade. You won't have to die and you'd better start practicing your banjo to celebrate Scottish and Welsh independence and Irish reunification.
I will pay with Scottish money to see that but I expect to see you alive. Can I ask that you play that old British favourite, ...Beethoven's "Ode To Joy".
Maybe she will choose to go with Scotland, it's where her mother was from and technically she is more directly Scotland queen than England's. Also she likes it better there.
When a place in the Uk ends in, "burgh," it sounds like, "buruh" or to some people "bruh". So Edinburgh is pronounced edin - buruh or how most people in Scotland pronounce it, "edin - bruh." Also this was a very good video.
@@fgsaramago No this was helpful I know know I’ve been saying it wrong please remove that pfp your trashing someone with an IQ over room temperature unlike you
Do you know how to pronounce names for cities in other countries? I don’t think Brits are the best placed at giving language advise to others. Lol The ending BURG comes from the Germanic language so if anything, Brits have decided to mispronounce it.
Also, he mentioned Ireland getting independance in 1922 and showed a newspaper frontpage with the leaders of a failed rebellion who were all executed in 1916.
5:46 Just btw, 🏴 isn’t just a blue background, it also has a white diagonal cross. The diagonal cross in 🇬🇧 is half-white and half-red, the red being St Patrick’s saltire not the Ulster Banner.
But the country (northern ireland's) flag isn't St Patrick's but the ulster's. Because St Patrick's is flag of the Kingdom of Ireland (United Ireland) (Sorry if it's a little difficult to understand but not very good English yet)
@@dwvide6049 when England and Scotland first formed the United Kingdom in the early 17th century, Wales was considered part of England. St Patrick’s flag was incorporated when Ireland joined, then Southern Ireland left. Would be expensive to change all the flags again throughout the empire and the UK flag is incorporated into The Australian and New Zealand flag as well as many others. So easier to just keep the St Patrick’s cross in the flag.
@terry phidaheights good Friday agreement buddy, they won’t like it but it’s legally binding. They’re beating their chests over the Irish Sea border now, and how’s that going for them?? Westminster don’t give a hoot about them as the supply and demand arrangement with the torys has shown. Unionism is dying, they need to stop throwing the toys out of the pram whenever a UI is mentioned and, start making arrangements were their place in society is going to be or they’ll be left behind. I’m sure you’ll say “the sons of ulster will take up arms” or some brutal rhetoric like that, but at the end of the day there’s plenty in the nationalist side that are also willing to fight if their democratically elected vote is sold down the river for the appeasement of the official minority and, they have the law behind them. Those threats don’t work like they did in the early 1900s, your only card is a joker.
@@mawhinney2.196 In the event of a United Ireland after a Referendum. For those thinking of rising trouble, America still are the Guarantor's of the Peace in Ireland, and can be invited in as a Peace keeper force by the Irish Government, so Nationalists won't have to retaliate. The Law and Democracy must always be the first priority in the free World.
If Scotland (or any of the UK counties) wish to leave the Union that is their right. Although it will be sad day - seeing the break up of my country. But democracy and the right to choose is most important. I just hope we could then become strong allies.
India want uk should devide and india must ocupie smaller england and make them slaves and india must take revange to england they rulled india 200 years i hope indian origion rushi sunik made this when he become priminister of uk
I’m just a kid so I don’t really understand politics but I want Scotland to be independent because I want to be known as Scottish and not British and I think we would be better split! I will still be sad about it but I think it’s for the better 😁 we should definitely stay allies tho
@@mikeyy2510 no we should not. If you gain independence, you should be on your own. No military dependence, no pledges of allegiance. You will fall, and their will be no one to blame but yourself.
Even if just Scotland left and Northern Ireland joined with The Republic of Ireland (which I believe to be the most likely scenario out of all the ones possible). It certainly would be the end of an era and a important point in history.
Basically England would fall into the background the USA would find better relationships in France Germany and Japan instead and if Scotland and northern Ireland left what makes the UK think that Australia would keep the queen as there head of a state because they won't
@@thewhovianhippo7103 should Scotland and Northern Ireland leave I imagine we wouldn't be far behind to be honest. Most people here are on the fence with independence but things are changing at a rate of knots.
@La nova renaissance do you have any data claiming that Wales is profitable in comparison to say Scotland? It's incredibly hard for me to find such data despite Wales being the only country in the UK that exports more than it imports (before Brexit anyway). There's also the issue that profits in chains such as Tesco count as English profit if the HQ is based in England and all tax is paid through that HQ. Any data on this would be great to strengthen the Welsh independence movement.
Using just GDP figures for international comparisons are a bit unfair. Wales' GDP is about the same as Kenya or Ethiopia yes, which sounds bad. However our GDP per capita its slightly less than Italy and higher than Portugal and Spain as Ethiopia's population is more than 30x higher than ours and Kenya's is almost 10x higher
yes but when you look at the power a country can weild it is their GDP, if you're looking at how well each person compares to other countries then yes use per capita.
@@CC-wf2qb That's the most subjective "best option" I've ever seen, for most people I know the biggest dream is a united Ireland, very few people want an independent Northern Ireland.
Ireland wouldn’t accept Norn Iron despite what it says. You have to remember that during the troubles the IRA side was a tiny minority. The ulster unionists and paras would be a worse headache because there is more of them. Bringing Norn iron in would lead to a civil war. So independence although not what anyone wants is quite a likely outcome if the area votes for leaving the U.K.
@@tomoswynne7783 Wales would not exist without England. That is a fact. It would be an underdeveloped area as the English and Scottish were the ones to build up Wales due to it’s natural resources a Scotsman, the Marquis of Bute basically built Cardiff.
@@hansfromcongo6322 but that's still an ignorant comment, yes it probably wouldnt be much of thing without england but that's almost irrelevant. Wales is and has been poorly treated and thats just fact
5:33 Oh, dude... Ain't no way the Ulster Banner would the flag of an independent Northern Ireland. It's got far too many ties to the Unionist movement to ever be fully accepted by the Nationalist population. Flags are serious business in NI!
John Fraser Nationalists are irish nationalists not northern irish nationalists , they won't accept northern independence .Not saying that they are not northern irish nationalists ,but they would be a separate group to the traditional nationalist group and would also have links to the unionist population .
10:34 while it is mostly not recognized as it's own country, many residents of the Isle of Man consider it to be not part of any UK country. I live on the Isle of Man, and we have a separate government and laws. It would be cool to be internationally recognised as a country because most people don't know we exist
@@Monkeybomb0 The Isle of Man isn't part of Wales, Ireland, England, or Scotland. If it is part of another country, I don't know what as it is also separate from the UK
Scotland : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence. Catalonia : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence but they're literally not allowed to. Quebec : Low support for independence in the most recent poll and a governong party that does not want independence.
Catalonia is trapped and can never be free. It's like Tibet. Quebec complains, but the people just blow hot air. Scotland has a decent shot at independence, but England would keep the oil fields and force Scotland to transfer its nuclear weapons.
@@MLV1000 lol u have no right to vote in catalonia, it's like letting england vote in the scottish referendum 🤣 it's quite entertaining to see the spaniards use the fascist constitution for an excuse. Franco lives on
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Yeah, that's the most likely outcome. If the UK breaks up, it will be because Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland leave. So England would be the successor state and by default would inherit overseas territories. Maybe some would seek independence instead, but I don't think that's likely.
@@eugeniaoberlin8665 The USSR dissolution is a good example so yeah, England would probably retain the seat on the UN Security Council. As for Gibraltar and the Falklands, in 2002 and 2013 respectively they each voted overwhelmingly to remain as British Oversea Territories with massive voter turn outs. No doubt they'd want to keep the status quo as much as possible. In practice they're already independent with the UK just responsible for their defence and foreign affairs.
In the section about Wales, he said the Welsh resent Brexit because it led to a loss of funding from EU. Actually, UK was always a net contributor to the EU, so every Euro spent by EU in Wales was funded by the UK tax payers. Also Wales voted to leave EU.
Not true. EU has several incomes one being VAT and Customs charges from imports into EU. EU has various funds like the EU Structural Fund and Investment and the EU Regionjal Development Fund. Cornwall has received over 1 billion euros from the EU funds since the year 2000 which has helped fund jobs, local businesses, infrastructure, training and research. The House of Commons library gives this average sum from 2016-2019: "There are different ways to measure the funds the UK received from the EU. The above figure of £4.5 billion includes only funding allocated to UK government to manage. However, the European Commission also allocates funding directly to UK organisations, often following a competitive process. In recent years these funds have been worth around £1.5 billion - £2.5 billion to the UK. Accounting for these receipts results in the UK making an average net contribution of around £7-7.5 billion per year between 2016 and 2019, rather than the £9.2 billion calculated by HM Treasury." An average net contribution of £ 7-7,5 billion!
There's the opportunity cost of losing the common market. Think of it this way you might be paying the most for rent in a house share but you're still getting a house.
5:17 Northern Ireland probably would not keep the Ulster banner, it’s not an official flag and it has a crown on it. If it were to secede, likely it would adopt either a new flag or if it joined Ireland the Irish one.
The Irish Tricolour and anthem would both have to be changed for completely new ones in any united Ireland. It really wouldn't be the ROI plus NI in reality. Even the current Taoiseach has stated Northern Ireland and Stormont would still remain in any united Ireland setup. In reality, there's nothing in the GFA that states Northern Ireland and Stormont would be abolished. It literally tells you devolution would remain and that only the sovereign power would change hands from London to Dublin.
But separate parliaments and separate governments. That only stopped with the Union because Scotland begged England to rescue them from bankruptcy - the Darien Crisis. How quickly they forget. Every 200 years or so.
@@neuralwarp Scotland didn’t beg England. England bribed the Scottish lords and earls to vote for it. They did so due the failed Darien scheme, but it was not Scotland that begged. The Scottish people were overwhelmingly against this.
@@stephene.8737 Scotland was bankrupt due to failed colonial projects. The Bank of England took on their debt. Get your information from history books not rewritten by the SNP.
Hence an independent Scotland would remain a monarchy by default. And would essentially join the commonwealth realms by default as HM Queen Elizabeth 2nd (of England) is also HM Queen Elizabeth 1st by right and not as a result of the act of union.
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The Isle of Man isn’t part of England, you shouldn’t have included it at the start. If Wales was represented in 🇬🇧, it would include St David’s Cross, not 🏴.
Realistically the Isle of Man would stay with the England under the ‘crown’ in a split scenario, but I agree they are autonomous and should not of been included here
@@RICO-2024 the Isle of Man is a crown dependency, meaning technically the Isle of Man is owned by the ruler of the UK, In this circumstance where wales, Northern Ireland , and Scotland leave the UK, the Isle of Man is still under ownership of the U.K. (now just England), although obviously keeps it autonomous rights. So the Isle of Man would become a crown dependency of England instead
There’s no way Gibraltar would want to break away from the UK/England. That’s because, at the moment, it is largely its own place allowed to do pretty much whatever they want without British interference. It’a unique place, not truly British but certainly not Spanish. That would change if they joined Spain as the Spanish would put a pretty brutal Spanish imprint on the place by way of an example i.e. you’re now Spanish. The unique character of the place would almost certainly be rubbed out and that would be an awful thing to witness being imposed on Gibraltarians.
@@kf9346 - perhaps you can explain why, the last time they had a referendum in Gib, *well over 90%* of the population said they wanted to maintain their present relationship with the UK?
@@kf9346 Unlikely - under the Treaty of Utrecht that Spain originally ceded Gibraltar to the British, if GB ever relinquishes control of the rock it has to offer it to Spain first. The odds of Spain saying no and allowing Gibraltar to become independent are pretty remote.
@@johnpotts8308 But for the fact that international law did a huge swing into the primacy of self-determination over treaty law in the 90s. Common assumption is a plebiscite by locals trumps all. I would even say Hong Kong was the last gasp of a treaty trumping local self-determination, and even that was able to happen only because at the time, there was barely a a local Hong Kong political culture and awareness--had Hong Kongers demanded a referendum before the hand-over, it would have had to have happened.
Well from my point of view I wouldn’t look at any of us English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish lot any differently. After all we still share the same group of islands
The isle of man is already an independent country, it isn't an overseas territory it is a crown dependency, which means it relies on the UK for military protection, but aside from that its not part of the UK.
I was with you until you mentioned that Gibraltar could “finally cave and join Spain”. A referendum held in Gibraltar resulted in 99% voting to remain British! I’m sure that if the UK itself broke up, the Gibraltarians would rather be under Scotland than Spain!
If the UK were to break up it would be interesting if Gibraltar ended up becoming an independent city-state. Seems unlikely though, unless they had no other options besides joining Spain.
The only reason Gibraltar exists is the british navy. Gibraltar regularly breaks international treaties, is a major contraband and piracy harbor and harasses spanish boats on spanish waters. If England stops protecting them Spain would not give them the choice to vote, they have more than enough casus beli to justify the invasion and a lot of animosity. Not to mention even if somehow they keep enough international support to avoid military annexation they'd still get labelled as the fiscal paradise they are and blockaded, which would be lethal. Unlike Andorra Gibraltar can't subsist without international trade nor does it have independence guarantees. It literally can't survive without the UK.
@The Duck I don't see why you would bring that up but for the record their issue is similar, in that if spain broke or was unwilling or unable to maintain its pressence there, it wouldn't gain independence, at least not for long, as morocco would annex it instead. Ceuta exists specifically so spain can claim control of the strait, much like gibraltar exists so britain can ignore every environmental and economic treaty it's ever signed. Without that purpose, they would not remain separate. Either way morocco and spain are opposed in this situation however. Morocco makes proclamations about wanting to annex ceuta and melilla whenever they need popular opinion to turn somewhere else (when local politics suck ass for the king) but it hasn't done anything of worth about it pretty much ever. Because the spanish ports are of great importance to morocco logistically and politically, being the cornerstones of their migratory pressure strategy to influence the EU and a vital node in keeping their international trade and protectionist politics compatible. Meanwhile Spain's been biting its teeth about Gibraltar and only throwing a fit whenever one of the oil spills happen or the british navy protects a specially high target druglord in its harassment of spanish police. But it's done so due to britain's power, not because Gibraltar could offer anything to it. Indeed it hurts spain way more than it helps. So you can expect spain to attack gibraltar if it could get away with it. Morocco's chances of attacking mostly depends on how much internal strife it has at the time, if it needs patriotism to surge it will do so and use it to revindicate their "great morocco" propaganda. If things are calm and there's no need for distractions they'll wait and see if it is in their best interest to ignore spain's weaknes if they think it'll be temporary.
I think in that situation Scotland and Wales would decide to be independent, and Northern Ireland would join Ireland. I doubt they'd see any point in continuing to be in a union together without England. So if England declares indepdendence, it's effectively England deciding to disband the UK.
@@michaeldmingo1525 There's a party called the English Democrats which did want independence at one point. I think now they are just aiming for England to have its own Parliament within the UK.
As a danish person I’m really fond of British people, culture and history and I really love Britain and hope they stay together. It’s just very sad that they screwed the selves over with brexit.
@a basketboy Yes mate our economy is doing fantastic and our leadership is now musical chairs, brexit was the last vestiges of English nationalism and it's the cancer that will eat away at the core of the union eventually killing it. It's not as dramatic as it sounds really, I mean there will still be an England, probably England and Wales if i'm honest, but Scotland will be gone and the north of Ireland will finally be where it should be instead of being a financial blackhole sucking the rest of the UKs tax money to placate some Neanderthal loyalists still living mentally in the 17th centaury
@a basketboy stop stealing English taxpayers money, you aren’t British, Britain is England Scotland and Wales, you are Irish, stop deluding yourself and leeching off hardworking English taxpayers
@@grahamliveif they want it they can get it, but let's just be honest. Scotland and especially Wales would be entirely dependent on England for many factors including energy, protection and trade. Except that it would add unnessecary borders and other obstacles. Just like leaving the EU, welsh and scottish independence would wreck the respective economy. And joining the EU wouldn't help them anymore than trade deals with other commonwealth nations and the US helped the UK after brexit. And it is pretty clear that the UK will eventually rejoin. And why rejoin seperately if we can do it together as well? We'd be a powerhouse, a loud voice within the Union instead of multiple smaller ones, easier to ignore.
@SalNova15 that’s actually where it comes from the st George cross worn on armour of knights Templar’s they operated in ache and other places in the Middle East during the holy land crusades
The Isle Man used many tears ago belonged to Scotland, ruled by Olaf the Black King of Man,his son Leoid the founder of the Mac Leoids. Manx Gaelic and Scots Gaidhlig are almost the same language!
Suspect there would need to be a reorganisation at the individual level rather than the divisions. What Scottish soldier serving in an English unit, or English soldier serving in a Scottish unit, wants to suddenly find themselves on the wrong side of the border and serving in a foreign country's military?
@@floridageneral1204 That wouldn’t make sense - since the guards regiments are loyal to Britain and the crown first. The British army would naturally fight against separatist forces and try to protect Britain.
Honestly, it would be great to see this happen. The Scots, Welsh and Irish already have their own nationalists in power in their areas. It really comes down to how to divvy up the assets. As England pays the most taxes, they obviously get to take the lions' share of the military etc. However the English parliament should not be guilted into paying anything else. The English can go nuclear in order to meet their energy requirements. Move the nuclear subs to Devonport. The welsh and scots and N.Irish have the military establishments and training areas that are currently built under the British Army. They have their own home grown regiments. The economies would recover and blossom. The green socialists in Scotland would have to recover from their angst over having to use oil to fuel their energy needs, the English keep the pound, The scots and N.Irish have their own currencies so they can keep those. The welsh would have to sort something out for themselves. At the end of the day, why would the English want to stay in a Union,l with other member counties who majority hate the Union. The English pay for the other countries to survive. Time for them to pull on their big boy shorts, stop suckling at the English teat, and go out there and make it on their own.
@@roybabineaux5353 Um USA did not actually get another power ruling them after they gained independence from the British. Quite the opposite actually; USA expanded to the pacific after they gained independence from the UK
i am a hongkie (a cheeky way to refer to hongkonger) and i hate british rule either . Under british rule , hong kong natives have no opportunity to rise to the top offices. Most young people simply wasnt born yet to remember those days.
Firstly, if Scotland and Wales join the EU, that would meen hard external EU borders between these countries and England. This will have an impact on their export markets in England. With regard to England keeping the UK seat at the UN, this would depend in part on whether England is seen as the successor state of the UK (i.e. whether England retains responsibility for treaty obligations and economic debts accrued by the UK, or whether all of these responsibilities would be nullified if there was no successor state).
Yes but they're land boarders. There won't be as much of a bottle neck situation as the whole of the UK is having right now with the continent. More over Scotland is already investing in port infrastructure to export directly to the EU, stopping what is currently going through England and leaving just what's going to it. That in turn will reduce said bottle neck at English ports going to the EU.
@@pspence9569 Right now, the ports bottlenecks are as much about goods going too and from Asia as what is going too and from the EU. My concern is not just about transport issues but about losing customers and suppliers. It will mean a company in Edinburgh will lose customers in Newcastle, and visa versa. Not just commercial links, but social links, since the borders between Scotland and England will be no different than the border between Poland and Belarus, and someone in Edinburgh who want to see their family in Newcastle will need to show a passport to do so. This is all analogous to the problems with the NI protocol but on mainland Britain.
@@Hfil66 I think the reality would be that Scotland would take 5-15 years to join the EU so in all likelihood a part of separation a trade deal with rUK would he struck to maintain the flow of goods, hopefully by the time Scotland was to join the EU rUK would be seriously contemplating/have a trade agreement with the EU that allowed for free trade.
I hear the Welsh revolutionary army has recently purchased two hundred septic tanks. They said in a press release, when they work out how to drive them they're going to invade England!
As a Manx person (Isle of Man citizen) I got excited at the mention of it's existence at 3:52 because so few people, even in the British isles, know of it's existence. Edit: and 10:34
I totally disagree, as Scotland doesn’t make enough money to be wanted by most people in England, so they will probably agree to it. The Uk allowed Scotland to vote whether to leave in the independence vote a few years ago, so why would they now, require England to vote
haha the English will never get a vote on this why because they have no sovereignty,maybe they should read the 1707 treaty and ask why it cost them their sovereignty and why their tory masters were so quick to take it away from them and lock it in the new UK parlaiment. Only Scotland can end the UK. Oh and when Scotland does become indepenent there will be no UK as the UK is a treaty between Scotland and England,Wales and N Ireland come under the English side of the treaty.
@channeleightythree083 there seems to be way to much of this unhealthy, toxic hatred of England on the Internet. Let me put it in real simple terms. The English people are not guilty of anything besides being born. England has a vastly higher population, wealth and power over Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales. Like any nation that has more power than it's neighbours, it will use that power to take land, and more power This is not unique to England, it happened/happens all over the world and had done since countries first existed.
@channeleightythree083 Are you sure about that last part? You do realize the EU is a failing socio-state. Even if the UK hadn't left the EU, it would have collapsed inevitably. Bureaucracy isn't the future. You call the UK undemocratic but you would rather the EU govern you instead. What a joke.
It's a bit more complicated with the Isle of Man. It is not part of the UK. It is a Crown Dependency and Manx residents are still considered British Citizens. It has also never been a member of the EU.
I can't understand what you mean by "What if the United Kingdom broke up?" The UK stared breaking up long ago and the first big fissure was in 1922 when the London government recognised the secession of 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland, which became the Irish Free State, going on to become the Republic of Ireland in 1949. It's a slow inexorable process.
I haven't looked at population numbers in a while. When I was in Northern Ireland, it was about 2/3 Protestant and 1/3 Catholic. Didn't know that it has shifted to almost 50-50. Not surprising, but didn't know about it.
It seems like the Republic of Ireland has become much more secular in the past 25 years, and although Catholicism is still an important cultural signifier, it seems to have a far less of a direct influence on politics. I wonder if this has any effect on protestant opinion on unification as well.
It always confuses me when people complain about England having the most power in the UK. England has over 6x the population of the other 3 combined, ever heard of democracy?
Confused are you stupid it’s got no baring on population Let me educate you The treaty was between two sovereign nations Therefore both should have equal say in government If you joined a golf club and another member had six times your family’s members would you accept them controlling all decisions but you still have to pay the same annual fee So if you can’t understand that basic fact you fall into the arrogant English establishment bucket
@@josephslater2266 seriously ???? Are you for real ,,,,,,can you count by 10 Have you attended primary school Let me educate you English members of parliament 533 Scottish members of parliament 59 Wales members of parliament 40 N/Ireland members of parliament 18 Total for Scotland Wales and Norther Ireland = 107 So even if all the three remaining country joined forces to vote for anything approx one quarter of English MPs can out vote them Do you call that democracy Are you so stupid or uneducated to understand that the Westminster parliament is English It’s controlled by England Also the second chamber of unelected lords is English split between Tory Labour and liberal parties Not one SNP member Now you know why we’ve had enough of your corrupt government dictating your will on us without representation Scotland has never voted Tory since 1955 Do you now understand why we will not entertain your arrogance any longer
@@MrGordonhaining Do I need to remind you that no English member of parliament can vote on laws that relate to Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland that are made in their parliament's, but seeing as England doesn't have a separate parliament they have to be passed by the parliament that sits in Westminster which includes MP's from Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland. So therefore they have a vote on laws that affect the English, as I said is that democracy.
@@josephslater2266 The fact that MPs in Westminster dont decide laws in thr devolved administrations is correct. In the same way that MPs dont directly voye for local council run services. So yes, technically, you are correct. However... Similar to the power MPs, especially the party in power, deciding the fate of local councils through grant allocations etc... They, MPs, can vote on legislation that has an impact upon the devolved regions. For example, NI voted to stay in the EU but Brexit happened, NI voted overwhelming for parties in its local Assembly for pro-EU/ very soft Brexit parties and really didn't any border be it on land or sea. Yet predominantly English MPs voted for the "Brexit Deal" which has had massive ramifications for NI, including but not limited, to stirring up the geo-sectarian tensions that simmer under the surface.
As a Scot, and IT professional, the most curious question for me is: what would the Internet TLD of an independent Scotland be? We now have .scot, it’s not a country-code TLD but logically it would make sense just to keep that as it’s already in use as a GeoTLD. There is already some precedent, funny enough the .uk TLD isn’t the UK’s actual country code, the actually country-code is GB. More generally though, Scotland’s two-letter ISO-3166 Alpha-2 country code would be a challenging find, every logical two-letter substring of “Scotland” is already in use: sc, so, st, sl; all in use. Some people speculate we might end up with a code based on the Gaelic name for Scotland, Alba: “aa” or “ab” might be the only option there. That is unless we somehow manage to acquire “sc” from Seychelles, “so” from Somalia, “st” from São Tomé and Príncipe, or “sl” from Sierra Leone; But even if we did, the code would have to sit unassigned for 50 or more years, and we’d need something in the meantime, so that seems unlikely.
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The Celtic families (Ireland, Scotland, Isle of Man & Wales) should join and bring about a Gaelic language revival in their respective states! England should Cuir méar I do thóin
Totally, I live in Ireland and the government’s attempt of reviving the langauge revival is atrocious. Like it’s there, we learn it in school, but there is no attempt at making more Gaelscoils (Irish only speaking schools) same case is Gaeltachts.
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I believe a load of english people (including me but I live in asia) are extremely prideful of the former British Empire but I understand Empires are a thing of the past and as for the United Kingdom itself with its current issues, I actually think that maybe desolving the union might eventually work out for everyone, it will hurt and call for a total restructuring of society and economy but Wales could choose its own route, Northern Ireland and Scotland could become EU members while England could go on with the Canzuk proposal to create a new union for new era, even if its just England it is still the home of the queen, a nuclear armed nation and has 7 wonders in London alone, ofcourse Canada or Australia will probably act as the dominant forces of Canzuk due to population alone but i'm okay with that, I'm no expert so don't take me seriously, just a fun thought to consider
Fk the empire. As a welshman we were and still are the filthy English first ever colony. I hope England ends up in civil war and London gets burned to the ground with the royals along with it.
Don’t forget that in 1704 the population of Gibraltar was expelled, and they went on to found the nearby San Roque. In fact both, Gibraltar and San Roque share the same flag.The colony was then repopulated with people from around the Mediterrean (Maltese, Genoese, etc.). So the orginal inhabitants could ask to return, to there homes one day and things could go a different way...
Gibraltar doesn't really have an option to become independent. Spain would pounce on it, feeling especially legitimised by the fact that while the Treaty of Utrecht gave it to Britain in perpetuity, it also mentions that it would return to Span should it ever cease to be British. Given the minuscule appetite for joining Spain that exists in Gibraltar, it would definitely opt to continue its links with whatever remains of the UK.
If the uk broke up I imagine that 20+ years after a lot of youtubers will make videos saying “what if the uk didn’t break up?” Or, “what if the uk reformed as Scotland?” Or something along those lines.
Totally inevitable. I'm English and I would like to see it happen. My country is still shackled by it's delusions of Empire. I think it would be good to reset and start afresh as a new country.
It never belonged to them. England writes its own history, and every bodies else while they are at it!! The Isle of Man was under Scottish rule,and ruled by Olaf the Black ruler of Man, his son became the founder of the Mac LEODS
IMO if this happened then England would effectively succeed the U.K. taking the current U.K. govt., overseas territories, military (or at least most of it), and security council seat
The military as whole is subject to English Law, and so is already a foreign presence in Scotland. The historic Scottish regiments were mostly abolished, or reduced first to battalion and now company size. They may carry on as mercenaries, in much the same way as the Gurkhas. Regarding the security council seat, while Brexiteers may have delusions of empire, English politicians will have to decide if they can afford to continue, as Douglas Hurd said "punching above our weight" by keeping nuclear weapons and fighting for the US (nominally "NATO") and sundry Arab monarchs. There is also the fictional British Indian Ocean Territory, maintained as a pretence so that the US can hide its spy/torture base on Diego Garcia.
Would England take the UK's seat on the Security Council? The precedents are that the Kuomintang kept China's seat after the communist takeover, until after Nixon recognised the mainland regime, and Russia kept the USSR's. If Scotland left, the "kingdom" would be united for a little time, but not the governments, as during 1603 - 1707. In that era, the army and navy belonged to the crown. If England insisted on holding onto their prized assets, they might find the Scots declined to take on their share of the National Debt. That might well happen: before the last independence referendum there was wild talk in Whitehall of declaring the Scottish nuclear submarine base English territory so that England could hold onto the American warheads. It might be cheaper to send the bombs back to the USA. At some point, "punching above your weight" ceases to make sense.
It's a mistake to assume that Ireland is ready and waiting to accept Northern Ireland. Again and again in private conversation, the issue comes up that Britain props up and pays for NI's economy. It isn't sensible for ROI to take on the cost of NI. Northern Ireland is a money pit.
@@goofygrandlouis6296It did not, to this day east germany is far poorer, more radical, extreamly subsidizded, loosing Population and a complete shithole regarding infrastructure like railway, roads and schools
My idea is after a Irish unification to create a new federation of a united Ireland and Scotland with a population between 12-13 million, will have more people than Belgium or Greece. And at least that federation will stay part of the EU because Ireland are.
If scotland and Ireland united it would form a new country probably which would cause it to leave the eu technically unless scotland just becomes a piece of Ireland they won't auto join the eu.
@@nahdran2918 but what officially happened was east Germany just became part of the west. The government's of Scotland and Ireland would if this happened probably want it to be a unification not an annexation
More breaking news: The Holy Roman Empire reunites to join the war for not being mentioned, now this war is a three way fight but other nations like Qing China and possibly Sri Lanka could be joining.
Also I don't get why England, as the largest post-union entity, wouldn't get the seat on the UN security council. Russia kept the Soviet seat after all.
@@henrypernoix1793 Geographically, Yes - politically , No, except that Hong Kong is part of China. NI is part of the island of Ireland, but politically part of the UK. Guernsey, Jersey, Alderney, Sark etc are geographically much closer to France than the UK, but are more or less independent of both (they are properties of the British Crown, and the UK Govt plays a limited role in them, principally international relations).
In the 1970 early 80s i worked for a company,one of the products they sold were Westclocks made in Scotland or at least the top four in the box had made in Scotland the others Hong Kong,i did not hear about this i used to open the boxes,no doubt the Anglish will be blamed for this its the MOPE way but in truth its big business and the politicians they have in their pockets the same politicians who want to give you a new apartheid island because we were to lazy to control them in the first place.
Mentioned this in another vid, but you seem like a less-right-wing version of whatifalthist. You’re more factual and neutral, mostly focusing on the facts. I quite like that, that style of infovid is more my thing. The effort and production value here is evident as well... subscribed!
Disclaimer for clarity: I understand the point of WIAH channel is speculation and theoretical alternatives, not facts. Also, if you are someone of a right-wing mindset who enjoys right-wing discussion, you do that. I’m simply saying that it’s not what I enjoy, nor is it something I like to see presented as if it were fact when it’s really just cynical assumptions and oversimplifications.
I sort of see what you mean regarding the fact-based aspect of this channel, but I reaaaally don't think whatifalthist is a good comparison 😅 They don't produce the same sort of content AT ALL and, while I love this channel too, general knowledge is really FAAAR less knowledgeable about most topics he covers. He frequently makes extremely basic mistakes in his videos, you can tell he'll often just pick a topic, do some research on it and make a video (which is still commendable!). By contrast, you might disagree with WIAH's analyses of various topic, but it's undeniable that the careful thought his videos go into has been based on a tremendous quantity of prior research and knowledge. And again, GK is a completely different channel, he just picks a topic and presents a list of facts about it, in a fun to watch infographics style. WIAH, on the other hand, either does big alternative history scenarios, which involve a huge amount of informed assumptions, or contemporary geopolitical analyses, which also require speculation. They're totally different types of content imo
@Reynz J you clearly don’t know anything then 😂 Each country has their own devolved parliaments except England. Welsh, Scottish and NI MP’s can vote on English law, whereas the English can’t vote on theirs. So please tell me how England runs the UK politically?
@@Metr0Wolf pretty sure MPs from outside England abstain in votes regarding changes to matters that are for England only? As for English independence, it's more likely parts of England would want to do their own thing, Cornwall & Devon, London, the North East, to name a few
@@jono_cc2258 yes I agree that regions in the UK would be keen for independence and I’m a huge supporter of localism. Unfortunately London does not represent the UK, or England and this has driven the interest of regional parts of the country to push for independence, albeit I doubt it will happen
When you mentioned currency, you forgot to mention that Scotland and Northern Ireland prints Thier own currencies. However Wales does not also what about passports, Embassies and consulates.
@@RichardSmith-fl4rw The number dead from the corona virus is a tad worse I'd imagine. Along with a zillion other things. But hey.....it's your flag! A flag that is, incidentally, not well liked by the many people of many nations around the world.
The most probable and reasonable scenario is Scotland becoming independent (and joining the EU) and Northern Ireland joining Ireland (and also the EU) Wales is not becoming independent any time soon and it would get no benefits.
@@twmsioncati3277 yeah, getting away from the EU is bad but if England wants to keep Wales close after everyone else has left they better start funding and helping Wales.
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England would be far better off if they left the union with 2.4 trillion worth of economic and growing its GDP per capita would be higher than it's now, and they won't have to spend money looking after Scotland, they can spend for there defence
@Nick Lindsey Pretty sure most of the UK tourism is london, if someone took me to Glasgow for a holiday I'd stab them in the knees and leave them for dead
Yeah funny how all these people keep going on about breaking up the UK. I think if it happened we would have an influx of Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish along with all the hordes across the channel still wanting to come and live in England rather than France. I think those smaller countries would suffer greatly economically as their new governments would not generate the GDP- third world economies.
As an Englishman I’d love to see this! Wales and Scotland have their own respective culture! And England is basically independent at this point so what’s holding us back?
Really interesting and well presented, thanks. Just wanted to flag up what I think is an error in stats. Your "recent poll" on Welsh Indy support is incorrect. Your graph shows 22% in favour and 88% "against". Firstly that doesn't add up, and the actual figures were 28% in favour and 52% against, the rest being don't know or wouldn't vote. Also, when looking at the cultural differences, perhaps you should add language into this, as this is just as strong a cultural marker in Wales as religion I think.
@@33m3c Honestly mate im from Scotland as well, CANZUK would be a great idea. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are our cousins. Would be a great union for sure.
Key point you should talk about as well is the demographics of the different countries. Scotland is markedly older and has a far, far lower birth rate than England and Wales. This puts massive pressure on their economy as they would have a greater pension burden and less people to replace those dying.
Would you want the UK to break up? And do you think it could happen?
Scotland will be independent in the near future 🏴
United Ireland!
As a Scot, I don't really want the UK to break up. If the UK was an actual union where every member was treated equally and had equal power in politics (kind of like the USA but ideally better than the USA) I would be very happy staying. Sadly that is not the case so I think we have no choice but to leave. I think if we're going to leave it's going to have to be within the next few years. Almost the entire justification for leaving is how we wanted to stay in the EU and more recently the handling of COVID, but I think if we wait too long we lose all credibility in that argument. If we're going to leave it needs to be before 2025 in my opinion. By then brexit will most likely not be something even remember that well and COVID will be mostly forgotten as well (hopefully) so there's really no good justification for leaving at that point other than us just wanting to leave because "fuck the english amirite"
I don't want it to break up, but I do think it'll head that way
@@Kodlaken yes r no
Then, people calling the UK England would finally be factually right
I’ve got a feeling we’d still muck people up
They’re already kinda right with the power imbalance.
@@donalbreathnach244 no, don't u dare
@@bliwolfff7815 What?
@@donalbreathnach244 don't call the whole of the UK England, probably the worst thing u can do for someone born outside of England :'(
Just to clarify, the Isle of Man is already mostly independent, it’s a crown dependency, and is not part of the uk
But still under British rule
@@BelcarrigFarm sort of, the uk has control over foreign relations and defense, but apart from that they have basically no power over the island
@@Valee_7 yeah the manx have the tynwald
...so you're saying the Isle of Man has so little to recommend it that the British, who were famously interested in taking over everything they could sail to, basically only bothered because it was in their back yard
@@riptidemonzarc3103 yeah I mean you have tailless cats and six horned
Sheep but the English invaded in the
1200s and queen Elizabeth is technically lord of mann
If the UK survives to the end of this century intact, I will rise from the dead and play the banjo at the Royal Variety performance.
It's not going to survive this decade. You won't have to die and you'd better start practicing your banjo to celebrate Scottish and Welsh independence and Irish reunification.
I will pay with Scottish money to see that but I expect to see you alive. Can I ask that you play that old British favourite, ...Beethoven's "Ode To Joy".
Century? I give it a decade. Dissolution is imminent.
Imagine in the next decade, the UK created another empire "The 2nd British Empire'
It wont last till end of century.
But it will be around by the end of the century.
I let you work out why.
Would Wales passports have dragons if they were independent?
Yes
I fucking hope so 🏴
Yes they would because dragons are there symbol
Not Welsh, but yes and heckin yes that would be epic
Yes
as a Scottish person this is a very interesting video (also it makes my skin crawl when people pronounce it "edinburg")
Ye I wanted tae tell him how tae pronounce it but I wanst sure how tae put it
You could start by spelling it according to pronunciation to help all these poor foreigners, we do not want to mispronounce but we can’t help it now.
Write it phonetically or suffer us mispronouncing it.
Isn’t “burgh” pronounced like “borough” or like “bruh” if you gangsta
@@mikesmit9770 , not in any other language I know
Imagine being the queen, born into an empire and living long enough to watch it collapse
@saxman "zombie queen celebrates second unification" - 2077
it hasnt collapsed yet tho
It already collapsed after WW2. This about further breakdown of the UK itself which after Brexit is imaginable.
Maybe she will choose to go with Scotland, it's where her mother was from and technically she is more directly Scotland queen than England's. Also she likes it better there.
@@thecareers335 not yet
I'm no math expert, but somehow 110% of welsh people were polled on independence
The red dragon was asked his input, and he is statistically worth an extra 10%
Yeah im welsh and there was an indepence rally in cardiff a couple yeaes ago and it felt like the whole country was there lol
Only 32% support it though.
@@mathws212 Well yeah a few thousand people does feel like a lot but obviously isnt when it comes to an entire country's population.
@The BlackSwordsman 99 i know that but the welsh media, newspapers and many welsh companies were supportive of independence
3:26 Good to see 110% of Wales going to vote, truly something we should try to emulate
Dragons voted too why are laughing bro
That makes sense
One Dem area in Florida managed that in 2020, according to the local official in charge of the count . . .
@@jackx4311 link?
@@namehere1535 Links? Not a sausage!
It will then be called “ Divided Kingdom “
The divided kingdom of lesser britain and no scotland
nah it’s just gonna be England Scotland Wales northern ireland
Or DK
Or "just one kingdom"
OMG
When a place in the Uk ends in, "burgh," it sounds like, "buruh" or to some people "bruh". So Edinburgh is pronounced edin - buruh or how most people in Scotland pronounce it, "edin - bruh." Also this was a very good video.
@@fgsaramago just don't say burg
That sounds like exasperation. Edin! Bruh!
@@fgsaramago
No this was helpful I know know I’ve been saying it wrong please remove that pfp your trashing someone with an IQ over room temperature unlike you
@@bot_5786 what
Do you know how to pronounce names for cities in other countries? I don’t think Brits are the best placed at giving language advise to others. Lol
The ending BURG comes from the Germanic language so if anything, Brits have decided to mispronounce it.
Ah yes, 22% no and 88% yes. 110% in total 🤣
It's even worse than that, I think he mentioned a certain amount being undecided.
Also, he mentioned Ireland getting independance in 1922 and showed a newspaper frontpage with the leaders of a failed rebellion who were all executed in 1916.
Sounds like a Chicago election... Vote early and often.
Zetsu? Conas atá?
@@EarlJohn61 Lmao, I was about to say... *sounds like Michigan!*
10:10 absolutely not. England alone would still not let Argentina have the falklands, they’re never getting those.
Ikr. Although with boris u never know, he isnt as strong as thatcher
Never say never. The UK navy isn't what it used to be. The flagship carrier limped back into port a couple of weeks ago.
5:46 Just btw, 🏴 isn’t just a blue background, it also has a white diagonal cross. The diagonal cross in 🇬🇧 is half-white and half-red, the red being St Patrick’s saltire not the Ulster Banner.
But the country (northern ireland's) flag isn't St Patrick's but the ulster's. Because St Patrick's is flag of the Kingdom of Ireland (United Ireland)
(Sorry if it's a little difficult to understand but not very good English yet)
@@tamaszsedely6475 Yes, but the Ulster flag does not contain a red diagonal cross :)
@@Lucaazade yes
But the union jack's included a St Patrick's (United Ireland) and remove if northern ireland is exit the union!
Where is wales?
@@dwvide6049 when England and Scotland first formed the United Kingdom in the early 17th century, Wales was considered part of England. St Patrick’s flag was incorporated when Ireland joined, then Southern Ireland left.
Would be expensive to change all the flags again throughout the empire and the UK flag is incorporated into The Australian and New Zealand flag as well as many others. So easier to just keep the St Patrick’s cross in the flag.
The current census went live today! Catholics expected to be named a majority in Northern Ireland. You should revisit this when the results come out.
*26+6=1*
@terry phidaheights
*sigh*
Protestants.
Can't live with them........
Can't send them to the Spanish Inquisition anymore.
@terry phidaheights good Friday agreement buddy, they won’t like it but it’s legally binding. They’re beating their chests over the Irish Sea border now, and how’s that going for them?? Westminster don’t give a hoot about them as the supply and demand arrangement with the torys has shown. Unionism is dying, they need to stop throwing the toys out of the pram whenever a UI is mentioned and, start making arrangements were their place in society is going to be or they’ll be left behind. I’m sure you’ll say “the sons of ulster will take up arms” or some brutal rhetoric like that, but at the end of the day there’s plenty in the nationalist side that are also willing to fight if their democratically elected vote is sold down the river for the appeasement of the official minority and, they have the law behind them. Those threats don’t work like they did in the early 1900s, your only card is a joker.
@@mawhinney2.196 In the event of a United Ireland after a Referendum. For those thinking of rising trouble, America still are the Guarantor's of the Peace in Ireland, and can be invited in as a Peace keeper force by the Irish Government, so Nationalists won't have to retaliate.
The Law and Democracy must always be the first priority in the free World.
@@georgebrowne5935 Can I get a source on that peacekeeping bit? I've tried googling but I'm lazy now.
Me: Let’s see what this guys knows...
Him within the first 10 seconds: “EdinBERG”
He's not British, give him some leeway.
@@mr-wx3lv No. give him no mercy.
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If Scotland (or any of the UK counties) wish to leave the Union that is their right. Although it will be sad day - seeing the break up of my country. But democracy and the right to choose is most important. I just hope we could then become strong allies.
India want uk should devide and india must ocupie smaller england and make them slaves and india must take revange to england they rulled india 200 years i hope indian origion rushi sunik made this when he become priminister of uk
I’m just a kid so I don’t really understand politics but I want Scotland to be independent because I want to be known as Scottish and not British and I think we would be better split! I will still be sad about it but I think it’s for the better 😁 we should definitely stay allies tho
UK is not a country an more than the EU. Its a union of countries .and unlike the EU not an equal union .
@@mikeyy2510 no we should not. If you gain independence, you should be on your own. No military dependence, no pledges of allegiance. You will fall, and their will be no one to blame but yourself.
@@mikeyy2510Technically you'd still be British, the island is Great Britain which is a geographical term, just like you'll always be European.
Even if just Scotland left and Northern Ireland joined with The Republic of Ireland (which I believe to be the most likely scenario out of all the ones possible). It certainly would be the end of an era and a important point in history.
Basically England would fall into the background the USA would find better relationships in France Germany and Japan instead and if Scotland and northern Ireland left what makes the UK think that Australia would keep the queen as there head of a state because they won't
@@Steve-zc9ht the entire island would fall into the background
@@Steve-zc9ht but what will happen to Wales?
@@thewhovianhippo7103 should Scotland and Northern Ireland leave I imagine we wouldn't be far behind to be honest. Most people here are on the fence with independence but things are changing at a rate of knots.
@La nova renaissance do you have any data claiming that Wales is profitable in comparison to say Scotland?
It's incredibly hard for me to find such data despite Wales being the only country in the UK that exports more than it imports (before Brexit anyway). There's also the issue that profits in chains such as Tesco count as English profit if the HQ is based in England and all tax is paid through that HQ.
Any data on this would be great to strengthen the Welsh independence movement.
I bet in less than 5 years there's gonna be a comment saying "well, this aged terribly"
What do you mean?
@@franciscoricca8309 brexit
Scotland - hehe aged like wiiinneeeeee
@@MuseEgg More like pee.
@@kamanashiskar9203 too bloody right
Using just GDP figures for international comparisons are a bit unfair. Wales' GDP is about the same as Kenya or Ethiopia yes, which sounds bad. However our GDP per capita its slightly less than Italy and higher than Portugal and Spain as Ethiopia's population is more than 30x higher than ours and Kenya's is almost 10x higher
yes but when you look at the power a country can weild it is their GDP, if you're looking at how well each person compares to other countries then yes use per capita.
@@nelsonbennett259 power, for what reason?
@@siarlb8115 defending yourself from a hostile state like Hitler or China
@@nelsonbennett259 or the British empire
@@nelsonbennett259 The state of Hitler? ...I guess I couldn't fault the Germans for wanting to distance themselves from him.
You made me happy by saying the Welsh flag looks cool🏴
I very much doubt that Northern Ireland would go independent! The choice really would be to stay with us, or join the Republic of Ireland!
To move past the old prejudices that would be the best option in theory, no picking sides one way to move forward.
@@CC-wf2qb That's the most subjective "best option" I've ever seen, for most people I know the biggest dream is a united Ireland, very few people want an independent Northern Ireland.
@@CC-wf2qb Oh my bad, I didn't see that.
@@adammacgreagoir4924 All good lad
Ireland wouldn’t accept Norn Iron despite what it says.
You have to remember that during the troubles the IRA side was a tiny minority. The ulster unionists and paras would be a worse headache because there is more of them.
Bringing Norn iron in would lead to a civil war.
So independence although not what anyone wants is quite a likely outcome if the area votes for leaving the U.K.
3:33 That was really clever of the pollsters to ask 110% of people in Wales.
Well the pollsters are Plaid Cymru who are in favour of independence so no real surprise
@U Y The left in general seems to be attacking anything British at the moment
@@hansfromcongo6322 bruh look at how the English treat Wales doesn't surprise me one bit
@@tomoswynne7783 Wales would not exist without England. That is a fact. It would be an underdeveloped area as the English and Scottish were the ones to build up Wales due to it’s natural resources a Scotsman, the Marquis of Bute basically built Cardiff.
@@hansfromcongo6322 but that's still an ignorant comment, yes it probably wouldnt be much of thing without england but that's almost irrelevant. Wales is and has been poorly treated and thats just fact
5:33 Oh, dude... Ain't no way the Ulster Banner would the flag of an independent Northern Ireland. It's got far too many ties to the Unionist movement to ever be fully accepted by the Nationalist population. Flags are serious business in NI!
yeah it'd be united ireland and we'd use the bratach trí dhath 🇮🇪
John Fraser Nationalists are irish nationalists not northern irish nationalists , they won't accept northern independence .Not saying that they are not northern irish nationalists ,but they would be a separate group to the traditional nationalist group and would also have links to the unionist population .
Put Union Jack in corner
Add a few stars in a random colour
WHOOPS YOUR IDENTITY IS NOW AUSTRALIAN
I think it would be the current flag without the crown with a yellow background.
@@bagel9542 Would be cool to see the Erin Go Bragh flag brought into Ireland again...
10:34 while it is mostly not recognized as it's own country, many residents of the Isle of Man consider it to be not part of any UK country.
I live on the Isle of Man, and we have a separate government and laws. It would be cool to be internationally recognised as a country because most people don't know we exist
I know about it because of the Falklands wars.
Do you think the isle of man would join wales or Ireland or just be independent?
@@legalnut7518 How the hell did the Falkland wars lead you to the isle of man?
@@Monkeybomb0 The Isle of Man isn't part of Wales, Ireland, England, or Scotland. If it is part of another country, I don't know what as it is also separate from the UK
@@tnsquidd Ireland once owned the isle of man.. I never knew that did u?
The greatest suspense is which will be independent first : Scotland, Catalonia or Québec?
Scotland, Catalonia and Quebec in that order I think
I think scotland first as they have had a referendum before
Scotland : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence.
Catalonia : Popular support for independence and a governing party pushing hard for independence but they're literally not allowed to.
Quebec : Low support for independence in the most recent poll and a governong party that does not want independence.
Catalonia is trapped and can never be free. It's like Tibet. Quebec complains, but the people just blow hot air. Scotland has a decent shot at independence, but England would keep the oil fields and force Scotland to transfer its nuclear weapons.
@@MLV1000 lol u have no right to vote in catalonia, it's like letting england vote in the scottish referendum 🤣 it's quite entertaining to see the spaniards use the fascist constitution for an excuse. Franco lives on
"no difference in religion". oh boi idk those protestants and catholics can really have a go sometimes
Catholics and Protestants may have their differences but there is one scenario were they'd be on the same page and unite....the war against Islam.
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And the Muslims now too
Let's keep superstition and human "daddy complexes" out of this!!
And then he imediately talks about Protestants vs. Catholics right after making this comment, so were you not paying attention?
I see Russian polling, 22% independence and 88% stay =110%
Russian polling? In Wales? Never!
Ignore my username please
In mother Russia?
Sounds legit.
In Wales, it was probably a mistake. Or someone trolling.
Clearly an error as the poll showed about 28% were undecided. No where close to 80% want to stay
@@thewelshrussian5532 LMAO 😂 Russian spy in Wales I see don't worry I'm a Russian spy in the USA
Actually India has the biggest breakup
First they broke up with Africa and joined Asia then after millions of years later split into 3 countries.
When will we GIVE ON Break-up Anniversary?
9 countries
@@invalidaccount6147 9 countries? Please enumerate
@@myriadmemento1298 Maldives,Sri Lanka, western Myanmar, southern Afghanistan, nepal, Bhutan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India.
These were together Indian continent and later on after collision to Asia it's called indian subcontinent.
All of these 9 countries will unite again under Indian rule.
3:26 I think staying in the UK should have gotten 78%, not 88%. Otherwise we would get 110%
this poll was rigged from the start, i knew it...
No. It's pretty obvious that independence would be 12% in reality, because obviously anyone polling for this data wants independence.
England would likely keep control of the overseas territories. The Falkland islands and Gibraltar would likely remain overseas territories.
Yeah, that's the most likely outcome. If the UK breaks up, it will be because Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland leave. So England would be the successor state and by default would inherit overseas territories. Maybe some would seek independence instead, but I don't think that's likely.
Lest we forget, the Falkland islands also had a referendum on continued UK association in 2013. Only 3 people - not 3%, 3 people - said no.
@@Psyk60 Yes. And like happens in the USSR disolution Russia took the chair at the UN. I think England 'll took the chair of the UK
@@eugeniaoberlin8665 The USSR dissolution is a good example so yeah, England would probably retain the seat on the UN Security Council. As for Gibraltar and the Falklands, in 2002 and 2013 respectively they each voted overwhelmingly to remain as British Oversea Territories with massive voter turn outs. No doubt they'd want to keep the status quo as much as possible. In practice they're already independent with the UK just responsible for their defence and foreign affairs.
I love how Ireland sitting there like : 🤭
nah their too busy looking for potatoes
@@nathansellars3757 that just not funny at all lol
@@nathansellars3757 we're not looking for anything
@@nathansellars3757 lol cringe
@@nathansellars3757 edgy cringe
In the section about Wales, he said the Welsh resent Brexit because it led to a loss of funding from EU. Actually, UK was always a net contributor to the EU, so every Euro spent by EU in Wales was funded by the UK tax payers. Also Wales voted to leave EU.
Not true. EU has several incomes one being VAT and Customs charges from imports into EU.
EU has various funds like the EU Structural Fund and Investment and the EU Regionjal Development Fund. Cornwall has received over 1 billion euros from the EU funds since the year 2000 which has helped fund jobs, local businesses, infrastructure, training and research.
The House of Commons library gives this average sum from 2016-2019: "There are different ways to measure the funds the UK received from the EU. The above figure of £4.5 billion includes only funding allocated to UK government to manage. However, the European Commission also allocates funding directly to UK organisations, often following a competitive process. In recent years these funds have been worth around £1.5 billion - £2.5 billion to the UK. Accounting for these receipts results in the UK making an average net contribution of around £7-7.5 billion per year between 2016 and 2019, rather than the £9.2 billion calculated by HM Treasury."
An average net contribution of £ 7-7,5 billion!
There's the opportunity cost of losing the common market. Think of it this way you might be paying the most for rent in a house share but you're still getting a house.
5:17
Northern Ireland probably would not keep the Ulster banner, it’s not an official flag and it has a crown on it. If it were to secede, likely it would adopt either a new flag or if it joined Ireland the Irish one.
N.I. has some very tough minded people the flag will be the least of worries and some people are only to aware and VERY wary of this fact.
Ullah (Ulster) one of 4 early Irish Kingdoms. A choice from the 4 sub kings chosen as Ard Righ!!
The Irish Tricolour and anthem would both have to be changed for completely new ones in any united Ireland.
It really wouldn't be the ROI plus NI in reality. Even the current Taoiseach has stated Northern Ireland and Stormont would still remain in any united Ireland setup.
In reality, there's nothing in the GFA that states Northern Ireland and Stormont would be abolished.
It literally tells you devolution would remain and that only the sovereign power would change hands from London to Dublin.
Union of the crowns was 100 years before Acts of Union.
But separate parliaments and separate governments. That only stopped with the Union because Scotland begged England to rescue them from bankruptcy - the Darien Crisis. How quickly they forget. Every 200 years or so.
@@neuralwarp Scotland didn’t beg England. England bribed the Scottish lords and earls to vote for it. They did so due the failed Darien scheme, but it was not Scotland that begged. The Scottish people were overwhelmingly against this.
@@stephene.8737 Scotland was bankrupt due to failed colonial projects. The Bank of England took on their debt. Get your information from history books not rewritten by the SNP.
Hence an independent Scotland would remain a monarchy by default. And would essentially join the commonwealth realms by default as HM Queen Elizabeth 2nd (of England) is also HM Queen Elizabeth 1st by right and not as a result of the act of union.
@@NZAnimeManga haha my degree is in Scottish history you twat.
he must like this idea Cuz his profile picture is Napoléon.
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Oh oui ! Napoléon supporte l'indépendance écossaise ! 😏
He is portuguese so probably not really
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@@Veriox22 who is portugese ? General Knowledge ?
@@Veriox22 WHAT ABOUT THE BRITISH ATTACK TO THE PORTUGUESE COLONIES?
I think Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic should unite to form the Celtic Union.
🤣
We could ride our unicorns into battle from scotland
Oh no would rather join the republic
The Isle of Man isn’t part of England, you shouldn’t have included it at the start.
If Wales was represented in 🇬🇧, it would include St David’s Cross, not 🏴.
The problem with 🏴 is that the colours don’t work with the rest but I agree st. David
Realistically the Isle of Man would stay with the England under the ‘crown’ in a split scenario, but I agree they are autonomous and should not of been included here
@ToastyCrust Ik
@@alf2617 How can we stay with England when we have never been with England?
@@RICO-2024 the Isle of Man is a crown dependency, meaning technically the Isle of Man is owned by the ruler of the UK, In this circumstance where wales, Northern Ireland , and Scotland leave the UK, the Isle of Man is still under ownership of the U.K. (now just England), although obviously keeps it autonomous rights. So the Isle of Man would become a crown dependency of England instead
"No key religious difference" 7:44
Are you aware of the issues in Northern Ireland
Aye.
I like the way another author put it:
People are willing to kill each other over the difference, it’s doesn’t get much bigger than that.
8:10 he talks about that
Are you aware of the rest of the video???????????????????
did u watch the rest of the vid brfore comenting this
@Carl Stone the feelings of folks based on religious sectarianism. context mattered a lot in Derry i hear
There’s no way Gibraltar would want to break away from the UK/England. That’s because, at the moment, it is largely its own place allowed to do pretty much whatever they want without British interference. It’a unique place, not truly British but certainly not Spanish. That would change if they joined Spain as the Spanish would put a pretty brutal Spanish imprint on the place by way of an example i.e. you’re now Spanish. The unique character of the place would almost certainly be rubbed out and that would be an awful thing to witness being imposed on Gibraltarians.
Gibraltar is more likely to become independent and become a Euro micro state like Andorra or Monaco.
@@kf9346 - perhaps you can explain why, the last time they had a referendum in Gib, *well over 90%* of the population said they wanted to maintain their present relationship with the UK?
@@jackx4311 Why yes I can--because %90 of voters want to keep thier present relationship with the UK. Pretty simple.
@@kf9346 Unlikely - under the Treaty of Utrecht that Spain originally ceded Gibraltar to the British, if GB ever relinquishes control of the rock it has to offer it to Spain first. The odds of Spain saying no and allowing Gibraltar to become independent are pretty remote.
@@johnpotts8308 But for the fact that international law did a huge swing into the primacy of self-determination over treaty law in the 90s. Common assumption is a plebiscite by locals trumps all. I would even say Hong Kong was the last gasp of a treaty trumping local self-determination, and even that was able to happen only because at the time, there was barely a a local Hong Kong political culture and awareness--had Hong Kongers demanded a referendum before the hand-over, it would have had to have happened.
Well from my point of view I wouldn’t look at any of us English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish lot any differently. After all we still share the same group of islands
I mean, yo. We all live on the same planet and we’re all human. Forget independence, let’s work together :)
@@legalnut7518nationalism is superior that that hippie nonsense
The isle of man is already an independent country, it isn't an overseas territory it is a crown dependency, which means it relies on the UK for military protection, but aside from that its not part of the UK.
Nifty tax haven too
@@kwhufc5769 a low tax economy people still have to pay tax
@@danielsimpson4855 Yes and therefore its a tax haven yah div
Used belonged to Scltland
@@robertgalloway3771 also used to belong to england, and before both of them used to belong to ireland and before that somebody else.
I was with you until you mentioned that Gibraltar could “finally cave and join Spain”. A referendum held in Gibraltar resulted in 99% voting to remain British! I’m sure that if the UK itself broke up, the Gibraltarians would rather be under Scotland than Spain!
They'd just remain part of England itself :)
If the UK were to break up it would be interesting if Gibraltar ended up becoming an independent city-state. Seems unlikely though, unless they had no other options besides joining Spain.
The only reason Gibraltar exists is the british navy.
Gibraltar regularly breaks international treaties, is a major contraband and piracy harbor and harasses spanish boats on spanish waters. If England stops protecting them Spain would not give them the choice to vote, they have more than enough casus beli to justify the invasion and a lot of animosity. Not to mention even if somehow they keep enough international support to avoid military annexation they'd still get labelled as the fiscal paradise they are and blockaded, which would be lethal. Unlike Andorra Gibraltar can't subsist without international trade nor does it have independence guarantees. It literally can't survive without the UK.
@The Duck I don't see why you would bring that up but for the record their issue is similar, in that if spain broke or was unwilling or unable to maintain its pressence there, it wouldn't gain independence, at least not for long, as morocco would annex it instead. Ceuta exists specifically so spain can claim control of the strait, much like gibraltar exists so britain can ignore every environmental and economic treaty it's ever signed. Without that purpose, they would not remain separate.
Either way morocco and spain are opposed in this situation however. Morocco makes proclamations about wanting to annex ceuta and melilla whenever they need popular opinion to turn somewhere else (when local politics suck ass for the king) but it hasn't done anything of worth about it pretty much ever. Because the spanish ports are of great importance to morocco logistically and politically, being the cornerstones of their migratory pressure strategy to influence the EU and a vital node in keeping their international trade and protectionist politics compatible. Meanwhile Spain's been biting its teeth about Gibraltar and only throwing a fit whenever one of the oil spills happen or the british navy protects a specially high target druglord in its harassment of spanish police. But it's done so due to britain's power, not because Gibraltar could offer anything to it. Indeed it hurts spain way more than it helps. So you can expect spain to attack gibraltar if it could get away with it. Morocco's chances of attacking mostly depends on how much internal strife it has at the time, if it needs patriotism to surge it will do so and use it to revindicate their "great morocco" propaganda. If things are calm and there's no need for distractions they'll wait and see if it is in their best interest to ignore spain's weaknes if they think it'll be temporary.
@The Duck i’am pretty sure yes😂😂 they are Spanish , and there is no big issue ongoing there about independence 😂😂
What if England becomes an independent Country from Great Britain, leaving Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland behind?
what if Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland kick England
I think in that situation Scotland and Wales would decide to be independent, and Northern Ireland would join Ireland. I doubt they'd see any point in continuing to be in a union together without England. So if England declares indepdendence, it's effectively England deciding to disband the UK.
Someone should start up the England Independence Party or something like that.
@@michaeldmingo1525 There's a party called the English Democrats which did want independence at one point. I think now they are just aiming for England to have its own Parliament within the UK.
I would imagine they would hold a huge street party and finally get out from under England's boot heel.
As a danish person I’m really fond of British people, culture and history and I really love Britain and hope they stay together. It’s just very sad that they screwed the selves over with brexit.
@a basketboy Yes mate our economy is doing fantastic and our leadership is now musical chairs, brexit was the last vestiges of English nationalism and it's the cancer that will eat away at the core of the union eventually killing it. It's not as dramatic as it sounds really, I mean there will still be an England, probably England and Wales if i'm honest, but Scotland will be gone and the north of Ireland will finally be where it should be instead of being a financial blackhole sucking the rest of the UKs tax money to placate some Neanderthal loyalists still living mentally in the 17th centaury
@a basketboy stop stealing English taxpayers money, you aren’t British, Britain is England Scotland and Wales, you are Irish, stop deluding yourself and leeching off hardworking English taxpayers
Yeah, I'm from the US, and watching this video made me sad. I actually hope they stick together.
As a Dane you have independence. Why would you wish to deny that privilege to Scotland or Wales?
@@grahamliveif they want it they can get it, but let's just be honest. Scotland and especially Wales would be entirely dependent on England for many factors including energy, protection and trade. Except that it would add unnessecary borders and other obstacles. Just like leaving the EU, welsh and scottish independence would wreck the respective economy. And joining the EU wouldn't help them anymore than trade deals with other commonwealth nations and the US helped the UK after brexit. And it is pretty clear that the UK will eventually rejoin. And why rejoin seperately if we can do it together as well? We'd be a powerhouse, a loud voice within the Union instead of multiple smaller ones, easier to ignore.
Can we all agree that wales has the best flag
@SalNova15 that’s actually where it comes from the st George cross worn on armour of knights Templar’s they operated in ache and other places in the Middle East during the holy land crusades
Dragons automatically win. If I was designing the UK's flag you bet your arse I would have put dragons, unicorns and lions on it.
D’you think Scotland could just like chuck a unicorn on their flag
The Isle Man used many tears ago belonged to Scotland, ruled by Olaf the Black King of Man,his son Leoid the founder of the Mac Leoids. Manx Gaelic and Scots Gaidhlig are almost the same language!
It would be cool if the different Guard Units returned to serve their respective countries.
Suspect there would need to be a reorganisation at the individual level rather than the divisions. What Scottish soldier serving in an English unit, or English soldier serving in a Scottish unit, wants to suddenly find themselves on the wrong side of the border and serving in a foreign country's military?
@@phueal Yeah, I was just saying it would be cool, hypothetically. It would be a pain logistically.
@@floridageneral1204
That wouldn’t make sense - since the guards regiments are loyal to Britain and the crown first.
The British army would naturally fight against separatist forces and try to protect Britain.
@@raymondhaskin9449 I'm not saying it makes sense. I'm saying it would be cool.
@@floridageneral1204 - and WTF do you mean by 'cool'?
Honestly, it would be great to see this happen. The Scots, Welsh and Irish already have their own nationalists in power in their areas. It really comes down to how to divvy up the assets. As England pays the most taxes, they obviously get to take the lions' share of the military etc. However the English parliament should not be guilted into paying anything else. The English can go nuclear in order to meet their energy requirements. Move the nuclear subs to Devonport. The welsh and scots and N.Irish have the military establishments and training areas that are currently built under the British Army. They have their own home grown regiments. The economies would recover and blossom. The green socialists in Scotland would have to recover from their angst over having to use oil to fuel their energy needs, the English keep the pound, The scots and N.Irish have their own currencies so they can keep those. The welsh would have to sort something out for themselves.
At the end of the day, why would the English want to stay in a Union,l with other member counties who majority hate the Union. The English pay for the other countries to survive. Time for them to pull on their big boy shorts, stop suckling at the English teat, and go out there and make it on their own.
The British: Everyone hates me ruling them
Hong Kong: Am I a joke to you?
Everyone hates the English ruling them... until they get the alternative...
@@PiousMoltar cough cough USA 🇺🇸
@@roybabineaux5353 Um USA did not actually get another power ruling them after they gained independence from the British. Quite the opposite actually; USA expanded to the pacific after they gained independence from the UK
i am a hongkie (a cheeky way to refer to hongkonger) and i hate british rule either . Under british rule , hong kong natives have no opportunity to rise to the top offices. Most young people simply wasnt born yet to remember those days.
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Firstly, if Scotland and Wales join the EU, that would meen hard external EU borders between these countries and England. This will have an impact on their export markets in England.
With regard to England keeping the UK seat at the UN, this would depend in part on whether England is seen as the successor state of the UK (i.e. whether England retains responsibility for treaty obligations and economic debts accrued by the UK, or whether all of these responsibilities would be nullified if there was no successor state).
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Yes but they're land boarders. There won't be as much of a bottle neck situation as the whole of the UK is having right now with the continent. More over Scotland is already investing in port infrastructure to export directly to the EU, stopping what is currently going through England and leaving just what's going to it. That in turn will reduce said bottle neck at English ports going to the EU.
@@pspence9569 Right now, the ports bottlenecks are as much about goods going too and from Asia as what is going too and from the EU.
My concern is not just about transport issues but about losing customers and suppliers. It will mean a company in Edinburgh will lose customers in Newcastle, and visa versa. Not just commercial links, but social links, since the borders between Scotland and England will be no different than the border between Poland and Belarus, and someone in Edinburgh who want to see their family in Newcastle will need to show a passport to do so. This is all analogous to the problems with the NI protocol but on mainland Britain.
@@Hfil66 I think the reality would be that Scotland would take 5-15 years to join the EU so in all likelihood a part of separation a trade deal with rUK would he struck to maintain the flow of goods, hopefully by the time Scotland was to join the EU rUK would be seriously contemplating/have a trade agreement with the EU that allowed for free trade.
Theg couldn't
I live near the Welsh bored, starting to learn Welsh just in case they invade
The Two Ronnies predicted this in the 1970's, check out "The Worm That Turned"
I live next door to Wales (Shropshire) and learned to speak Welsh a long time ago.
Comes in handy in North Wales..
I’m welsh and I can’t speak Welsh
@@igotaplan922 I’m Welsh and I can
I hear the Welsh revolutionary army has recently purchased two hundred septic tanks. They said in a press release, when they work out how to drive them they're going to invade England!
As a Manx person (Isle of Man citizen) I got excited at the mention of it's existence at 3:52 because so few people, even in the British isles, know of it's existence.
Edit: and 10:34
The best way for Scotland to get their own country is to give the English the vote on the subject.
John
I totally disagree, as Scotland doesn’t make enough money to be wanted by most people in England, so they will probably agree to it.
The Uk allowed Scotland to vote whether to leave in the independence vote a few years ago, so why would they now, require England to vote
The UK is finished we will be leaving the Uk later this year
haha the English will never get a vote on this why because they have no sovereignty,maybe they should read the 1707 treaty and ask why it cost them their sovereignty and why their tory masters were so quick to take it away from them and lock it in the new UK parlaiment.
Only Scotland can end the UK.
Oh and when Scotland does become indepenent there will be no UK as the UK is a treaty between Scotland and England,Wales and N Ireland come under the English side of the treaty.
@@SaorAlba1970 who are you ?? can't come soon enough you ungrateful upstart.
@@sdone7672 Grateful for what ?
why wales should be independant: they got a cool flag that isn't even part of the jack
@channeleightythree083 so does Scotland and northern Ireland though
@channeleightythree083 which no one else in the world speaks.
Imagine flying it beside the Bhutanese flag. It will be cool😎
@channeleightythree083 there seems to be way to much of this unhealthy, toxic hatred of England on the Internet. Let me put it in real simple terms.
The English people are not guilty of anything besides being born.
England has a vastly higher population, wealth and power over Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales.
Like any nation that has more power than it's neighbours, it will use that power to take land, and more power
This is not unique to England, it happened/happens all over the world and had done since countries first existed.
@channeleightythree083 Are you sure about that last part? You do realize the EU is a failing socio-state. Even if the UK hadn't left the EU, it would have collapsed inevitably. Bureaucracy isn't the future. You call the UK undemocratic but you would rather the EU govern you instead. What a joke.
It's a bit more complicated with the Isle of Man. It is not part of the UK. It is a Crown Dependency and Manx residents are still considered British Citizens. It has also never been a member of the EU.
I can't understand what you mean by "What if the United Kingdom broke up?"
The UK stared breaking up long ago and the first big fissure was in 1922 when the London government recognised the secession of 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland, which became the Irish Free State, going on to become the Republic of Ireland in 1949.
It's a slow inexorable process.
I haven't looked at population numbers in a while. When I was in Northern Ireland, it was about 2/3 Protestant and 1/3 Catholic. Didn't know that it has shifted to almost 50-50. Not surprising, but didn't know about it.
It seems like the Republic of Ireland has become much more secular in the past 25 years, and although Catholicism is still an important cultural signifier, it seems to have a far less of a direct influence on politics. I wonder if this has any effect on protestant opinion on unification as well.
@@seamussc Yea sure I'm protestant and practically all my friends are catholic but I never think about that..
It always confuses me when people complain about England having the most power in the UK. England has over 6x the population of the other 3 combined, ever heard of democracy?
Confused are you stupid it’s got no baring on population
Let me educate you
The treaty was between two sovereign nations
Therefore both should have equal say in government
If you joined a golf club and another member had six times your family’s members would you accept them controlling all decisions but you still have to pay the same annual fee
So if you can’t understand that basic fact you fall into the arrogant English establishment bucket
But the other 3 have their own government whereas England has all 3 voting for laws that affect only the English. Is that democracy?
@@josephslater2266 seriously ???? Are you for real ,,,,,,can you count by 10
Have you attended primary school
Let me educate you
English members of parliament 533
Scottish members of parliament 59
Wales members of parliament 40
N/Ireland members of parliament 18
Total for Scotland Wales and Norther Ireland = 107
So even if all the three remaining country joined forces to vote for anything approx one quarter of English MPs can out vote them
Do you call that democracy
Are you so stupid or uneducated to understand that the Westminster parliament is English
It’s controlled by England
Also the second chamber of unelected lords is English split between Tory Labour and liberal parties
Not one SNP member
Now you know why we’ve had enough of your corrupt government dictating your will on us without representation
Scotland has never voted Tory since 1955
Do you now understand why we will not entertain your arrogance any longer
@@MrGordonhaining Do I need to remind you that no English member of parliament can vote on laws that relate to Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland that are made in their parliament's, but seeing as England doesn't have a separate parliament they have to be passed by the parliament that sits in Westminster which includes MP's from Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland. So therefore they have a vote on laws that affect the English, as I said is that democracy.
@@josephslater2266
The fact that MPs in Westminster dont decide laws in thr devolved administrations is correct. In the same way that MPs dont directly voye for local council run services. So yes, technically, you are correct.
However...
Similar to the power MPs, especially the party in power, deciding the fate of local councils through grant allocations etc... They, MPs, can vote on legislation that has an impact upon the devolved regions.
For example, NI voted to stay in the EU but Brexit happened, NI voted overwhelming for parties in its local Assembly for pro-EU/ very soft Brexit parties and really didn't any border be it on land or sea. Yet predominantly English MPs voted for the "Brexit Deal" which has had massive ramifications for NI, including but not limited, to stirring up the geo-sectarian tensions that simmer under the surface.
As a Scot, and IT professional, the most curious question for me is: what would the Internet TLD of an independent Scotland be?
We now have .scot, it’s not a country-code TLD but logically it would make sense just to keep that as it’s already in use as a GeoTLD. There is already some precedent, funny enough the .uk TLD isn’t the UK’s actual country code, the actually country-code is GB.
More generally though, Scotland’s two-letter ISO-3166 Alpha-2 country code would be a challenging find, every logical two-letter substring of “Scotland” is already in use: sc, so, st, sl; all in use. Some people speculate we might end up with a code based on the Gaelic name for Scotland, Alba: “aa” or “ab” might be the only option there.
That is unless we somehow manage to acquire “sc” from Seychelles, “so” from Somalia, “st” from São Tomé and Príncipe, or “sl” from Sierra Leone; But even if we did, the code would have to sit unassigned for 50 or more years, and we’d need something in the meantime, so that seems unlikely.
That`s your major concern???.
You from clan McPedant son?.
Fuck me, 9 people share your concerns. That`s more than the guy who brought up Nuclear weapons.
.lol
The Celtic families (Ireland, Scotland, Isle of Man & Wales) should join and bring about a Gaelic language revival in their respective states! England should Cuir méar I do thóin
There is two language groups there the goidelic and the brythonic. But yes the United Celtic Nations will raise
Totally, I live in Ireland and the government’s attempt of reviving the langauge revival is atrocious. Like it’s there, we learn it in school, but there is no attempt at making more Gaelscoils (Irish only speaking schools) same case is Gaeltachts.
@@YoMollyF there is some Gaeilge speaking schools in Galway.
@@YoMollyF they teach it so bad, they don’t dedicate enough classes towards it but expect us to know it as well as English
Don't forget Kernow! x
The Isle of Man and Channel Islands are self-governing British Crown dependencies but are not part of the United Kingdom.
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@@loveth2142 Please go away, learn to write in English and stop believing in fairy tales.
Thats good,we do not need to act when France or Russia takes them over.
I believe a load of english people (including me but I live in asia) are extremely prideful of the former British Empire but I understand Empires are a thing of the past and as for the United Kingdom itself with its current issues, I actually think that maybe desolving the union might eventually work out for everyone, it will hurt and call for a total restructuring of society and economy but Wales could choose its own route, Northern Ireland and Scotland could become EU members while England could go on with the Canzuk proposal to create a new union for new era, even if its just England it is still the home of the queen, a nuclear armed nation and has 7 wonders in London alone, ofcourse Canada or Australia will probably act as the dominant forces of Canzuk due to population alone but i'm okay with that, I'm no expert so don't take me seriously, just a fun thought to consider
Let me tun away to Asia with you~ I'm scared for my country (Wales) to be honest
Fk the empire. As a welshman we were and still are the filthy English first ever colony. I hope England ends up in civil war and London gets burned to the ground with the royals along with it.
@@lordsofafan372 jesus, calm down
Yeah you really aren’t an expert. Even if CANZUK happens england would by far have the largest population.
@@goese868 forgive him he’s Welsh so he’s evidently a little slow.
Two or three decades ago Gibraltar had a referendum to
Unite with Spain or
Stay with United Kingdom.
44 voters chose Spain.
There you can see how fast times are changing.
Don’t forget that in 1704 the population of Gibraltar was expelled, and they went on to found the nearby San Roque. In fact both, Gibraltar and San Roque share the same flag.The colony was then repopulated with people from around the Mediterrean (Maltese, Genoese, etc.). So the orginal inhabitants could ask to return, to there homes one day and things could go a different way...
Gibraltar 96% voted to stay in the E.U!!
@@robertgalloway3771 They wont join Spain to do that though!
@@eduardoromerovaquero3191 Will Spain return Ceuta to Morocco?Spain is unsympathetic.
Gibraltar doesn't really have an option to become independent. Spain would pounce on it, feeling especially legitimised by the fact that while the Treaty of Utrecht gave it to Britain in perpetuity, it also mentions that it would return to Span should it ever cease to be British. Given the minuscule appetite for joining Spain that exists in Gibraltar, it would definitely opt to continue its links with whatever remains of the UK.
If the uk broke up I imagine that 20+ years after a lot of youtubers will make videos saying “what if the uk didn’t break up?” Or, “what if the uk reformed as Scotland?” Or something along those lines.
The Hawaiian flag still has the Union Jack so I think Australia and New Zealand would keep their flags as is.
hawaii was never a British colony though
Fiji would be a better example as it was once a part of the commonwealth but is now a republic but still has the union jack in its flag
@@eelsemaj99 you should read the story on how the union jack came to be on the Hawaiian flag well worth the read lol
@@eelsemaj99 United States was a British Colony until they won the war for independence
@@trevordickenson3196 nope. there were 13 colonies all on the East Coast that formed the US. Hawaii wasn’t even known to the west when that happened
I love how happy Ireland looks in the thumbnail. Absolutely lovin it
😂
Ireland is a happy place and we are always amused by British entertainment.
@@fitzstv8506 inbetweeners
@@Mooshake069420
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@@fitzstv8506 Likewise us with Ireland especially the antiquated abortion laws
I really don't want this to happen but I fear it is inevitable.
Totally inevitable. I'm English and I would like to see it happen. My country is still shackled by it's delusions of Empire. I think it would be good to reset and start afresh as a new country.
It’s not inevitable because economically Scotland gets 80% of its economy from britain
And Scotland would get nothing out of it
Did you just give the Isle of Man to England? They'll like that.
I'm I right in thinking it was part of Scotland??
@@manus.P118.8 It has changed hands between England and Scotland, but it's actually largely independent, in identity
@Johnny Rep G&J are French island. Like NI is Irish and Gibraltar is Spain territory
It never belonged to them. England writes its own history, and every bodies else while they are at it!! The Isle of Man was under Scottish rule,and ruled by Olaf the Black ruler of Man, his son became the founder of the Mac LEODS
@saxman some make for good naval bases
IMO if this happened then England would effectively succeed the U.K. taking the current U.K. govt., overseas territories, military (or at least most of it), and security council seat
The military as whole is subject to English Law, and so is already a foreign presence in Scotland. The historic Scottish regiments were mostly abolished, or reduced first to battalion and now company size. They may carry on as mercenaries, in much the same way as the Gurkhas.
Regarding the security council seat, while Brexiteers may have delusions of empire, English politicians will have to decide if they can afford to continue, as Douglas Hurd said "punching above our weight" by keeping nuclear weapons and fighting for the US (nominally "NATO") and sundry Arab monarchs.
There is also the fictional British Indian Ocean Territory, maintained as a pretence so that the US can hide its spy/torture base on Diego Garcia.
@@faithlesshound5621 i mean having nukes makes you a great power. U cant get destroyed if you have them, it would be insane to get rid of them
Would England take the UK's seat on the Security Council? The precedents are that the Kuomintang kept China's seat after the communist takeover, until after Nixon recognised the mainland regime, and Russia kept the USSR's.
If Scotland left, the "kingdom" would be united for a little time, but not the governments, as during 1603 - 1707. In that era, the army and navy belonged to the crown. If England insisted on holding onto their prized assets, they might find the Scots declined to take on their share of the National Debt.
That might well happen: before the last independence referendum there was wild talk in Whitehall of declaring the Scottish nuclear submarine base English territory so that England could hold onto the American warheads. It might be cheaper to send the bombs back to the USA.
At some point, "punching above your weight" ceases to make sense.
It's a mistake to assume that Ireland is ready and waiting to accept Northern Ireland. Again and again in private conversation, the issue comes up that Britain props up and pays for NI's economy. It isn't sensible for ROI to take on the cost of NI. Northern Ireland is a money pit.
Nah, people said that about the reunification of Germany.. and it went fine.
@@goofygrandlouis6296It did not, to this day east germany is far poorer, more radical, extreamly subsidizded, loosing Population and a complete shithole regarding infrastructure like railway, roads and schools
My idea is after a Irish unification to create a new federation of a united Ireland and Scotland with a population between 12-13 million, will have more people than Belgium or Greece. And at least that federation will stay part of the EU because Ireland are.
As if England would ever allow THAT to happen.
That would trigger a war.
If scotland and Ireland united it would form a new country probably which would cause it to leave the eu technically unless scotland just becomes a piece of Ireland they won't auto join the eu.
@@rehanakhund2578 thats whats Happening in Germany 1990 after the reunification.
@@nahdran2918 but what officially happened was east Germany just became part of the west.
The government's of Scotland and Ireland would if this happened probably want it to be a unification not an annexation
@@rehanakhund2578 The idea of a Celtic federation is not a creation from me. It includes also Wales, Cornwall, and britany in france.
The only country that can compare with Wales flag is Bhutan
Maybe Sri Lanka?
@@josephbrennan370 Qing china
Breaking news: Bhutan and Wales goes to war!
More breaking news: The Holy Roman Empire reunites to join the war for not being mentioned, now this war is a three way fight but other nations like Qing China and possibly Sri Lanka could be joining.
Albania has a cool flag as well
"O Acre não existe"
A man of culture I see
Como assim? E como assim ele entendeu? Kkkkkk
Sabia q ia ter alguem nesse caralho
Ele tinha que fazer essa referência ao Acre, afinal, ele tá falando do Brasil
next video: What If The ACRE became a country?? my sugestion...
Acre
England has existed as a country since 927AD. Before that it was 7 kingdoms.
Long live the kingdom of Mercia 😂
@La nova renaissance I feel last kingdom vibe
And before that it was Wales
RIP the Kingdom of East Anglia.
Bloody vikings... :(
All Brythonic basically speaking the Welsh Language,from before the Romans arrived.
Also I don't get why England, as the largest post-union entity, wouldn't get the seat on the UN security council. Russia kept the Soviet seat after all.
Your first map shows Isle of Man as part of England, but in fact, Isle of Man is part of neither England or the UK 🇮🇲
Ditto the Channel Isles - All self governing, all belong to the UK Crown, but one of them are part of the UK
Guernesey & Jersey are French island. Like NI is Ireland, Gibraltar is Spanish and Hong Kong is China
@@henrypernoix1793 Geographically, Yes - politically , No, except that Hong Kong is part of China. NI is part of the island of Ireland, but politically part of the UK. Guernsey, Jersey, Alderney, Sark etc are geographically much closer to France than the UK, but are more or less independent of both (they are properties of the British Crown, and the UK Govt plays a limited role in them, principally international relations).
@@henrypernoix1793 No, 50/50, No, and unfortunately Yes.
There are a few key Scottish products that somehow come under an ‘unknown region’ of ‘England’ which greatly affects the recorded income of Scotland.
Sounds like you don't know how to do business. With regret, you're fired.
In the 1970 early 80s i worked for a company,one of the products they sold were Westclocks made in Scotland or at least the top four in the box had made in Scotland the others Hong Kong,i did not hear about this i used to open the boxes,no doubt the Anglish will be blamed for this its the MOPE way but in truth its big business and the politicians they have in their pockets the same politicians who want to give you a new apartheid island because we were to lazy to control them in the first place.
Mentioned this in another vid, but you seem like a less-right-wing version of whatifalthist. You’re more factual and neutral, mostly focusing on the facts. I quite like that, that style of infovid is more my thing. The effort and production value here is evident as well... subscribed!
Disclaimer for clarity: I understand the point of WIAH channel is speculation and theoretical alternatives, not facts. Also, if you are someone of a right-wing mindset who enjoys right-wing discussion, you do that. I’m simply saying that it’s not what I enjoy, nor is it something I like to see presented as if it were fact when it’s really just cynical assumptions and oversimplifications.
This channel and what if alt hist have next to no similarities
I sort of see what you mean regarding the fact-based aspect of this channel, but I reaaaally don't think whatifalthist is a good comparison 😅 They don't produce the same sort of content AT ALL and, while I love this channel too, general knowledge is really FAAAR less knowledgeable about most topics he covers. He frequently makes extremely basic mistakes in his videos, you can tell he'll often just pick a topic, do some research on it and make a video (which is still commendable!). By contrast, you might disagree with WIAH's analyses of various topic, but it's undeniable that the careful thought his videos go into has been based on a tremendous quantity of prior research and knowledge. And again, GK is a completely different channel, he just picks a topic and presents a list of facts about it, in a fun to watch infographics style. WIAH, on the other hand, either does big alternative history scenarios, which involve a huge amount of informed assumptions, or contemporary geopolitical analyses, which also require speculation. They're totally different types of content imo
It would be the best thing ever for England.
How do you learn all this without knowing how to pronounce Edinburgh?
I don't think anyone knows how to pronounce Scottish cities
Glasgow = glass cow
Edinburgh = edinburg
Dun Eideann Alba
@@sirts1 what
@@sirts1 glos co, edin borrow
As an Englishman I would love that.
English independence yes please 👌🏻🏴
@Reynz J you clearly don’t know anything then 😂 Each country has their own devolved parliaments except England. Welsh, Scottish and NI MP’s can vote on English law, whereas the English can’t vote on theirs. So please tell me how England runs the UK politically?
@@Metr0Wolf pretty sure MPs from outside England abstain in votes regarding changes to matters that are for England only? As for English independence, it's more likely parts of England would want to do their own thing, Cornwall & Devon, London, the North East, to name a few
@@jono_cc2258 yes I agree that regions in the UK would be keen for independence and I’m a huge supporter of localism. Unfortunately London does not represent the UK, or England and this has driven the interest of regional parts of the country to push for independence, albeit I doubt it will happen
England for the English.
When you mentioned currency, you forgot to mention that Scotland and Northern Ireland prints Thier own currencies. However Wales does not also what about passports, Embassies and consulates.
We don't print our own currency, but the Royal mint is in Wales lol
You print you're own currencies at when and how much the Bank of England says
@@ed4pints the English aren't competent enough to do it themselves so we stepped in for them ;)
@@tomosprice8136 ths response is not approved by the queen or eddie jones
@@ed4pints but it is approved by Michael Sheen and Alun Wyn Jones ;)
15:05 nope. Considering Russia has a GDP almost *half* the GDP of the U.K., it would not make sense to kick England off the UN Security Council.
Much better to boot Ruzzia.
He’s got the Union flag upside down!
Wait what? Explain please I am interested
It looks like not too many care!
Nothing worse than seeing my flag upside-down
@@RichardSmith-fl4rw The number dead from the corona virus is a tad worse I'd imagine. Along with a zillion other things. But hey.....it's your flag! A flag that is, incidentally, not well liked by the many people of many nations around the world.
He doesn't care. He's just trying to spread racist missinformation to promote nationalism.
"Edin-BURG" oh the classic
That is the correct pronunciation. It was part of Northumberland.
@@saxglend9439 it is pronounced Ed-in-Bru
@@randomentertainment3302 Burg
I don‘t really care if they‘re gonna break up, but I think Scotland will soon be independent
It definitely will 🏴🏴🏴
@Tuifiti well that’s just not true. You mean because she doesn’t want to lift lockdown too early. Get a grip.
@@jamiegalbraith4874 you guys want to take yourselves out of the UK just to put yourself under the control of Brussels. Embarrassing
@@timcahill4676 by that logic Scotland is now ruled by the crazy clown at Downing Street therefore, by London. Embarrassing.
i hope none go independant, it would ruin our history and wales and northern Ireland would be fucked.
I gotta say I saw the joke on "O Acre não existe"
Good going dude
The most probable and reasonable scenario is Scotland becoming independent (and joining the EU) and Northern Ireland joining Ireland (and also the EU) Wales is not becoming independent any time soon and it would get no benefits.
Wales get no benefits anyway. We loose out massively now we don't get eu funding. Westminster isn't working.
@@twmsioncati3277 yeah, getting away from the EU is bad but if England wants to keep Wales close after everyone else has left they better start funding and helping Wales.
I’m a Scot and when he said Edinburgh as “Edinburg” and not “Edinburah”
What about Edin🅱 R U H?
@@Riel_Rami nAh, thats how Scots feel 😂
I felt the same way even though I’m not from the UK- how much does this guy know if he can’t pronounce EDINBURAH
@@antonsilva6263 sad fact, most of us read it with English pronunciation, included me
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England would be far better off if they left the union with 2.4 trillion worth of economic and growing its GDP per capita would be higher than it's now, and they won't have to spend money looking after Scotland, they can spend for there defence
oh you English 🤭😁
I agree. I would like to stay as UK BUT would like the odd few to shut up moning and fk off then.
@Nick Lindsey Pretty sure most of the UK tourism is london, if someone took me to Glasgow for a holiday I'd stab them in the knees and leave them for dead
Yeah funny how all these people keep going on about breaking up the UK. I think if it happened we would have an influx of Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish along with all the hordes across the channel still wanting to come and live in England rather than France. I think those smaller countries would suffer greatly economically as their new governments would not generate the GDP- third world economies.
@@weyman4317 Everyone hates the English.......but for some reason they all wanna live and work here.
As an Englishman I’d love to see this! Wales and Scotland have their own respective culture! And England is basically independent at this point so what’s holding us back?
You literally have "UK" in your username lol
The only culture the Welsh have different from the rest of the UK is ordering a curry with half-rice half-chips.
@@Sieffre_Tawr
We do that in the north of England mate.
Oh shut up...
Yes thank u
"One of the coolest flag"
Trash Taste viewers: *Sweating furiously*
It’s a bad flag
@@uncanadien3272 hey our flag is just a leaf between two red bars, eh
Still better than just 3 stripes
its a good flag, lotta history behind it
@@uncanadien3272 a fucking leaf
Really interesting and well presented, thanks.
Just wanted to flag up what I think is an error in stats. Your "recent poll" on Welsh Indy support is incorrect. Your graph shows 22% in favour and 88% "against". Firstly that doesn't add up, and the actual figures were 28% in favour and 52% against, the rest being don't know or wouldn't vote.
Also, when looking at the cultural differences, perhaps you should add language into this, as this is just as strong a cultural marker in Wales as religion I think.
Exactly thank u for some sense
I think a video on CANZUK would be interesting
more like CANZENG amirite
I'm from Scotland, it's never ever going to happen.
@@33m3c i'm from canada. please let it happen.
@@33m3c same
@@33m3c Honestly mate im from Scotland as well, CANZUK would be a great idea. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are our cousins. Would be a great union for sure.
Key point you should talk about as well is the demographics of the different countries. Scotland is markedly older and has a far, far lower birth rate than England and Wales. This puts massive pressure on their economy as they would have a greater pension burden and less people to replace those dying.
If you think the Welsh flag is cool, you'd certainly like the Sri Lankan flag.
I always think of Swan Vestas matches when I see the Sri Lankan flag , it’s probably the yellow border ?
No sri lanka shit
BHUTAN
With Sri Lankan's flag you either love it or hate it there's no in between
@@cyberia___ i hatelove it that the between
I have exams tomorrow, but nah, United Kingdom is more important.
Laughs in cancelled exams because of covid
You should do a video on a independent Northern Ireland and/or City of London (with the City of London being way older than Greater London)