@Savagejameel08 everyone watches that one, I think a better game is jordan agaisnt the mavs in 02. The game shows how at an old age jordan can still defend elite players and play at a high level.
After MJ retired in '98 i watched the NBA mostly because of Kobe! He was almost like MJ and i loved that style of playing - the dynamics, speed, creativity...but at the end of the day it was "almost" like, not the real deal in certain areas. That's why i will always have MJ at number 1, with Kobe second. The pure skills and grace of those two is simply unmatched but as already commented i still think MJ had much greater control of his body mid-air and in most of the occasions a more pleasing and entertaining view. As for the rest of my top list i would put both Bird and Magic in firm number three spot. The rest are so far behind that i don't even want to make a list for them whether you like it or not!
Kobe would regularly take harder, more contested shots but I got MJ with the prettier shot. Jordan’s was so smooth he made it look easy. The reason Kobe looks more difficult is because his body is more wire like and out of control when he shoots. Jordan’s body is more controlled in the air than Kobe’s. I’m not a Kobe hater either just my observations. I’ve also been following Bron since he was in high school (I live in Ohio) and not a hater at all. His longevity is unmatched, good things off the court and a beast on. That being said, I started watching the NBA during the 86 season when I was 10yrs old so I’ll rank the top players I’ve seen at their “peak” over the years: 1) Jordan 2) Bird 3) Kobe 4) Lebron 5) Magic 6) Duncan 7) Shaq 8) Hakeem 9) Durant 10) Curry 11) Barkley 12) Giannis 13) K. Malone 14) D. Robinson 15) Jokic Best ‘what if’s’ I’ve seen: 1) P. Hardiway 2) G. Hill 3) D. Rose 4) M.A. Rauf 5) D. Petrovic
When kobe played against lebron there was never anything either did that stood out to me to say the 1 is better than the other. MJ's twitch is different from kobes though based on this vid. And the hands man. Its a different game when you can palm the ball like that
That's an interesting thought, but the triangle is fluid by design so them finding the same spots on the floor had more to do with them executing their preferences, IMO.
"Always two there are....no more...no less. A master and an apprentice."... Jordan just seemed to have more time even on the harder shots, could be more to do with slightly better defence in Kobe's era. Jordan also looks more graceful, less clunky and heavy footed. When Kobe was on fire, he seemed to be able to score a lot of big point games, although I guess Jordan also sat out a lot of 4th quarter or end of games even when he was scoring buckets. Jordan also had a faster first step. Jordan's ability to palm the ball was vital in allowing him to handle the more physical defence, and his ability to maneuver his body in mid-air was nothing short of incredible.
Fun Fact: 2008 MVP Kobe averages what rookie MJ was averaging coming into the NBA. - Kobe plays like an old MJ of the 90s, 80s Jordan wa something else. Don't take my word for it tho, you could search it up. Rookie and later 80s Mike was a beast, a monster at both ends, his numbers (stats) wont lie, imma a Kobe guy but a young MJ was next level, maybe even 2 levels up.... Mike's has more lift to his jumpers and his massive hands could be the big difference imo.
@@amandadraws8682 Prolly he did, knowing what the Lakers program was and his trainer was Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. He might have hit the wall, we all have limits.
If Kobe Bryant's shots are harder, its because they are lower percentage shots. Jordan takes a couple dribbles and get to his spot. Thats more efficient
They had similar move sets, but whatever MJ had, Kobe wanted to do it better. MJ's were a bag full of fundamentals because of his natural gifts (ie: huge hands, vertical) and you could just see Kobe put more effort into his moves, an extra 'oomph', if I may say so. That made Kobe's jumpshots a bit prettier.
@@jonoak i know he didn't Jordan had a bigger body. Bigger hands More natural athletics...i am just saying the majority of people dont see or acknowledge kobes peak 2003 (kobe said himself was his peak)...they just know the slower version of kobe post knee surgeries
@JIX9ISLER1986 kobe was a monster just like mj I hear just pointing out difference I saw in them one of the first I noticed was when he posted up he couldn't physically dominate his Defender as in backing down like mj ...when I worked at a barbershop during kobe prime its one of the things I was able to point out while we were debating non stop every day except on Sundays lol
@@JIX9ISLER1986because 2003 does not stand out like other Kobe years. 2006 Kobe stands out for the 35 points a game season and 81 point game. Even if that is Kobe's peak, the season is less memorable for some reason. Most people know the 1996 and 1997 version of Jordan even if there are other years to call peak
Every play you seen in this video was Kobe post 2-3 knee surgeries Kobe's athletic and skills peak was 2003 Watch Kobe Bryant's Breakout 2002-03 Season! Best Player In The World? | GOAT SZN has just under 1 million views "At the end of 2003, my game was complete. Shooting, defense, using the dribble, transition, mid-range stuff was all there. Then it was about fine-tuning and trying to improve in each area. People think the footwork stuff is new, but I’ve always had great footwork.” - Kobe Bryant When Jordan compares them he cited his 91yr vs his 03
The reason MJs shots overall looked more effortless in comparison to Kobe simply physical gifts like his hands and far greater athleticism he tend to jump higher (48” vert to Kobe 38”), move faster(4.37 to 4.7), had a quicker first step and was a good deal stronger so Mike was just Kobe skillset on steroids level athleticism 😂
The reason why Jordan makes it look easy because he's the original and kobe copied Jordan so it was difficult to do someone else's move's, don't get wrong I think kobe is a phenomenal player and if we want to talk about Jordan goat status with someone it should be labron and kobe.
Kobe is better than Lebron. Lebrons game relies on having 3 and D teammates who play off ball because he doesn’t play off ball and doesn’t shoot the 3 at a high percentage. When he doesn’t have teammates like this, he either doesn’t make the playoffs or underperforms in the playoffs. Kobe got Pau Gasol. The same player that everyone was calling Pau Gesoft, just one year earlier. And him and Pau went to 3 straight finals and won 2 chips. And during those years, Lebrons Cavs we’re picked to win the chip. Despite people saying he had no help.
No offense to the creator but this is a pretty poor comparison. If you wanna see ACTUAL identical plays and comparisons you should watch these 2 videos: "Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan - Identical Plays: The Last Dance (Part III)" by Youssef Hannoun "Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan - Identical Plays: Immortal (Part 4" ) by Youssef Hannoun
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@Savagejameel08 everyone watches that one, I think a better game is jordan agaisnt the mavs in 02. The game shows how at an old age jordan can still defend elite players and play at a high level.
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Make a comparo on their defense (blocks, steals, getting into those passing lanes)
so we can see the difference.
jordan physical gifts are greater that's why its easier for him.
The G.O.A.T and his heir to the throne. RIP Kobe.
After MJ retired in '98 i watched the NBA mostly because of Kobe! He was almost like MJ and i loved that style of playing - the dynamics, speed, creativity...but at the end of the day it was "almost" like, not the real deal in certain areas. That's why i will always have MJ at number 1, with Kobe second. The pure skills and grace of those two is simply unmatched but as already commented i still think MJ had much greater control of his body mid-air and in most of the occasions a more pleasing and entertaining view. As for the rest of my top list i would put both Bird and Magic in firm number three spot. The rest are so far behind that i don't even want to make a list for them whether you like it or not!
Kobe mimicked certain aspects of Jordan's games, but Kobe did what worked for him. Its like comparing Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter
RIP Kobe one of the greatest
Kobe jumper look better but Mike with the fade all day. Kobe #2 all time.
Every move MJ did was so smooth and way more controlled
Kobe would regularly take harder, more contested shots but I got MJ with the prettier shot. Jordan’s was so smooth he made it look easy. The reason Kobe looks more difficult is because his body is more wire like and out of control when he shoots. Jordan’s body is more controlled in the air than Kobe’s.
I’m not a Kobe hater either just my observations. I’ve also been following Bron since he was in high school (I live in Ohio) and not a hater at all. His longevity is unmatched, good things off the court and a beast on.
That being said, I started watching the NBA during the 86 season when I was 10yrs old so I’ll rank the top players I’ve seen at their “peak” over the years:
1) Jordan
2) Bird
3) Kobe
4) Lebron
5) Magic
6) Duncan
7) Shaq
8) Hakeem
9) Durant
10) Curry
11) Barkley
12) Giannis
13) K. Malone
14) D. Robinson
15) Jokic
Best ‘what if’s’ I’ve seen:
1) P. Hardiway
2) G. Hill
3) D. Rose
4) M.A. Rauf
5) D. Petrovic
When kobe played against lebron there was never anything either did that stood out to me to say the 1 is better than the other. MJ's twitch is different from kobes though based on this vid. And the hands man. Its a different game when you can palm the ball like that
Do MJ Bulls vs AI 76ers that was legendary I grew up watching MJ Bulls dominate the 90s
Them playing a lot of their career in the same offense also means they are taking a lot of shots from the same spots on the floor.
That's an interesting thought, but the triangle is fluid by design so them finding the same spots on the floor had more to do with them executing their preferences, IMO.
"Always two there are....no more...no less. A master and an apprentice."... Jordan just seemed to have more time even on the harder shots, could be more to do with slightly better defence in Kobe's era. Jordan also looks more graceful, less clunky and heavy footed. When Kobe was on fire, he seemed to be able to score a lot of big point games, although I guess Jordan also sat out a lot of 4th quarter or end of games even when he was scoring buckets. Jordan also had a faster first step. Jordan's ability to palm the ball was vital in allowing him to handle the more physical defence, and his ability to maneuver his body in mid-air was nothing short of incredible.
This is why Kobe > LeBron and it's not even close.
Fun Fact: 2008 MVP Kobe averages what rookie MJ was averaging coming into the NBA.
- Kobe plays like an old MJ of the 90s, 80s Jordan wa something else. Don't take my word for it tho, you could search it up. Rookie and later 80s Mike was a beast, a monster at both ends, his numbers (stats) wont lie, imma a Kobe guy but a young MJ was next level, maybe even 2 levels up.... Mike's has more lift to his jumpers and his massive hands could be the big difference imo.
Kobe probably didnt do lift or vertical training
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Prolly he did, knowing what the Lakers program was and his trainer was Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. He might have hit the wall, we all have limits.
Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Bird, Magic in that order, then the rest
If Kobe Bryant's shots are harder, its because they are lower percentage shots. Jordan takes a couple dribbles and get to his spot. Thats more efficient
They had similar move sets, but whatever MJ had, Kobe wanted to do it better. MJ's were a bag full of fundamentals because of his natural gifts (ie: huge hands, vertical) and you could just see Kobe put more effort into his moves, an extra 'oomph', if I may say so. That made Kobe's jumpshots a bit prettier.
Kobe played against a tougher defense thats why it looks a little more difficult.
There's a play where Jordan makes 2 defenders run into each other and I'm pretty sure Kobe did the same thing.
The real difference was Jordan was a better athlete he was alot stronger then kobe jumped higher an was faster...kobe was just as quick tho
3 knee surgeries kobe made is a huge difference as well
2003 was kobes athletic and skills peak
@JIX9ISLER1986 Kobe himself admitted he didn't have the god-given abilities Michael Jordan was born with
@@jonoak i know he didn't
Jordan had a bigger body. Bigger hands
More natural athletics...i am just saying the majority of people dont see or acknowledge kobes peak 2003 (kobe said himself was his peak)...they just know the slower version of kobe post knee surgeries
@JIX9ISLER1986 kobe was a monster just like mj I hear just pointing out difference I saw in them one of the first I noticed was when he posted up he couldn't physically dominate his Defender as in backing down like mj ...when I worked at a barbershop during kobe prime its one of the things I was able to point out while we were debating non stop every day except on Sundays lol
@@JIX9ISLER1986because 2003 does not stand out like other Kobe years. 2006 Kobe stands out for the 35 points a game season and 81 point game.
Even if that is Kobe's peak, the season is less memorable for some reason. Most people know the 1996 and 1997 version of Jordan even if there are other years to call peak
You aren't tripping. Jordan's body control is much better. He always looks balanced.
Kobe looks like he has longer arms.
Every play you seen in this video was Kobe post 2-3 knee surgeries
Kobe's athletic and skills peak was 2003
Watch Kobe Bryant's Breakout 2002-03 Season! Best Player In The World? | GOAT SZN has just under 1 million views
"At the end of 2003, my game was complete. Shooting, defense, using the dribble, transition, mid-range stuff was all there. Then it was about fine-tuning and trying to improve in each area. People think the footwork stuff is new, but I’ve always had great footwork.”
- Kobe Bryant
When Jordan compares them he cited his 91yr vs his 03
The reason MJs shots overall looked more effortless in comparison to Kobe simply physical gifts like his hands and far greater athleticism he tend to jump higher (48” vert to Kobe 38”), move faster(4.37 to 4.7), had a quicker first step and was a good deal stronger so Mike was just Kobe skillset on steroids level athleticism 😂
kobe certainly had a 40 vert in 2001-2003 before knee surgeries
Kobe imitated Jordan moves when he was losing his athleticism. Vince Carter was able to imitate young Jordan.
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Kobe probably did not train his vertical and went in a different direction
I got Kobe at 2 and MJ at 1
Kobe is better, but my all time rankings are a mix of play style, skill, longevity, accolades...etc. so I have Lebron 2nd all time and Kobe 5th.
The original video is longer than it needed to be. Alot of plays are not even identical.
What?!! Jordan is prettier. His is much more graceful and his hang time looks nicer.
For me kobe top 2 lebron top 30.
Bruh did you really say the defense was better in 2000s lol 😂 Jordan just had better vertical and that’s.why his looked easier
Notice how MJ stays on the balls of his feet much more than Kobe..Kobe was flat foot compared to MJ
Jordan def quicker off the step
Jordan is the goat but I think Kobe is just smoother and his jumper was just art
The reason why Jordan makes it look easy because he's the original and kobe copied Jordan so it was difficult to do someone else's move's, don't get wrong I think kobe is a phenomenal player and if we want to talk about Jordan goat status with someone it should be labron and kobe.
Kobe is better than Lebron. Lebrons game relies on having 3 and D teammates who play off ball because he doesn’t play off ball and doesn’t shoot the 3 at a high percentage. When he doesn’t have teammates like this, he either doesn’t make the playoffs or underperforms in the playoffs. Kobe got Pau Gasol. The same player that everyone was calling Pau Gesoft, just one year earlier. And him and Pau went to 3 straight finals and won 2 chips. And during those years, Lebrons Cavs we’re picked to win the chip. Despite people saying he had no help.
Jordan does everything better than Kobe period
No offense to the creator but this is a pretty poor comparison. If you wanna see ACTUAL identical plays and comparisons you should watch these 2 videos:
"Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan - Identical Plays: The Last Dance (Part III)" by Youssef Hannoun
"Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan - Identical Plays: Immortal (Part 4" ) by Youssef Hannoun
Kobe is better than lebron.
For me lebron games is boring to watch.