Library music was very profitable back in the 20th century, because the internet wasn't facilitating a ton of free audio content. I teamed my PA up with a lazer/projection crew in the 90s, and we made a decent crust for a few years doing corporate product launches and fashion shows, alongside the usual raves and warehouse parties. You had more chance of getting paid up front by the suits, as long as you were VAT reg. Corporate types still love an outdoor video projection event with crispy clean audio for their promo bunfights. Hotel ballrooms are a bit cheesy (and pricey) if you're the thrusting entreprenurial type. Just remember to own some waterproof tarps if you work in the UK.
Music content making for videos is really nice to do. I did some last year for small and large organizations and enjoyed making them. It was really inspiring working with the video content makers side by side and create a complete magical moment for the end user.
As a Fiverr (Top Rated) seller myself, I really appreciate your take on the platform and agree 100% with what you said (carve your niche, don't race to the bottom). It's refreshing hearing someone speak of the platform not just as a "meme", or synonym of "low quality art" (although that's not totally ungranted), but as a legitimate way to earn money with art.
Really good food for thought here, thanks guys. I'm looking for ways to get an alternative income stream and have a load of (analogue as it goes) sound equipment accumulated over a couple of decades which at the moment is being used as a ridiculously over the top home dj set up. I have some ideas but you've opened up some possible additional avenues here. Cheers, always enjoy your vids 🙂
Good advices! I did a lil math and your "revenue" is about as much as 33.000 streams on Spotify and while we all will produce the next big thing, for sure, getting 33.000 plays is a lot for a new artist. 20 years ago or so, a friend of mine went on that live mixing road, but not for very long. He bought some gear and in a quite short amount of time he found himself renting out live equipment. Then he got really lucky and made a deal with one of the biggest booking agencies here. So, now for nearly 20 years he and his team set up huge events for international artists, as well as TV shows. I worked over 20 years as a freelancer and from my experience the three most important things are: Be good to work with. Be reliable. Know your numbers.
when you say know your numbers? as in like what to charge? I have that issue I have plenty of songs i have produced or engineered but never charged just got splits.
@@prodbydramatic I do, but while music was and is my greatest passion, we even were signed back in the day, my dayjob now and as a freelancer was something else. I work as software developer for a small marketing company now, because working as a freelancer was extremely time consuming and I thought, there must be more live for. :) Regarding your point, I've got those offers too. Wild promises, even wilder expectations. I learned that the hard way as well. Here in Germany it's best to splt every € in half, one half is for you, the other half is for taxes, health insurance, etc. Try to save 10 - 20% of your half for rainy days and nessesary invenstments or repairs. Write down all monthly costs and estimate how much you have to make each day, while considering, that there will be gaps. Don't sell yourself cheap, you have the same needs as your clients. My last hourly rate was ~60€ and since my work gaps were quite small, it worked out for me.
As a 66 year old engineer/producer with over 500 analog tape sessions under my belt, much of it for albums and radio, my project studio is getting mixing and mastering jobs from artists who record their own tracks but have no idea how to mix and edit them into saleable music. I mix on a console with full automation and recall and the results are reflected in the old school approach.
I'd like to be a flop cat stroking engineer please. When can I start? What do I need to bring for my induction day apart from a pair of hands. Does flop cat enforce a dress code for new employees or am I okay to wear anything. Is lunch provided? DM me all info and I will be there prompt and on time, but.... I might be a day late and a dollar short. Jokes aside, Thanks for the tip & advice guys. Every video you put out is invaluable, priceless advice. Love you both for it.
Hey guys, I would like to say sorry I didn't watch all of your videos already. I will certainly do it, they are just too good. Every time i see a new video it's already better than 99.999% of videos on this topic. I feel like I need to send you money or something... Oh wait, I can. Let me find a job real quick XD
"All else" has indeed failed for me... I'm good with cats... Can I have a job please? I also make good tea for grumpy mastering engineers... (This is mostly a joke, but also, I do need a job. Commercial studio owners, please feel free to get in touch)
Is there a bag of dosh to be earned for supplying sarcastic & shit comments on RUclips sites..? Ow... bugger. John Cage did a famous Library Music track... well, they always used to demand silence back then. I often earn a four-figure amount, for a day of my time... as much as £10.99, if I buy my own lunch.
Studio cats are so underrated. With a cat constantly looking down on you, it'll make you work harder and become better.
Love the cat👍
Library music was very profitable back in the 20th century, because the internet wasn't facilitating a ton of free audio content.
I teamed my PA up with a lazer/projection crew in the 90s, and we made a decent crust for a few years doing corporate product launches and fashion shows, alongside the usual raves and warehouse parties. You had more chance of getting paid up front by the suits, as long as you were VAT reg.
Corporate types still love an outdoor video projection event with crispy clean audio for their promo bunfights. Hotel ballrooms are a bit cheesy (and pricey) if you're the thrusting entreprenurial type. Just remember to own some waterproof tarps if you work in the UK.
You make it sound so easy.
Could you boys do an indepth video on remix engineering?
Music content making for videos is really nice to do. I did some last year for small and large organizations and enjoyed making them. It was really inspiring working with the video content makers side by side and create a complete magical moment for the end user.
That’s awesome! Glad to hear you enjoyed it :) thanks for your comment
I like u guyz
As a Fiverr (Top Rated) seller myself, I really appreciate your take on the platform and agree 100% with what you said (carve your niche, don't race to the bottom). It's refreshing hearing someone speak of the platform not just as a "meme", or synonym of "low quality art" (although that's not totally ungranted), but as a legitimate way to earn money with art.
Glad to hear it’s working for you! Great work :)
Really good food for thought here, thanks guys. I'm looking for ways to get an alternative income stream and have a load of (analogue as it goes) sound equipment accumulated over a couple of decades which at the moment is being used as a ridiculously over the top home dj set up. I have some ideas but you've opened up some possible additional avenues here. Cheers, always enjoy your vids 🙂
Cheers!
Good advices! I did a lil math and your "revenue" is about as much as 33.000 streams on Spotify and while we all will produce the next big thing, for sure, getting 33.000 plays is a lot for a new artist.
20 years ago or so, a friend of mine went on that live mixing road, but not for very long. He bought some gear and in a quite short amount of time he found himself renting out live equipment. Then he got really lucky and made a deal with one of the biggest booking agencies here. So, now for nearly 20 years he and his team set up huge events for international artists, as well as TV shows.
I worked over 20 years as a freelancer and from my experience the three most important things are:
Be good to work with.
Be reliable.
Know your numbers.
when you say know your numbers? as in like what to charge? I have that issue I have plenty of songs i have produced or engineered but never charged just got splits.
@@prodbydramatic I do, but while music was and is my greatest passion, we even were signed back in the day, my dayjob now and as a freelancer was something else.
I work as software developer for a small marketing company now, because working as a freelancer was extremely time consuming and I thought, there must be more live for. :)
Regarding your point, I've got those offers too. Wild promises, even wilder expectations. I learned that the hard way as well.
Here in Germany it's best to splt every € in half, one half is for you, the other half is for taxes, health insurance, etc.
Try to save 10 - 20% of your half for rainy days and nessesary invenstments or repairs.
Write down all monthly costs and estimate how much you have to make each day, while considering, that there will be gaps.
Don't sell yourself cheap, you have the same needs as your clients. My last hourly rate was ~60€ and since my work gaps were quite small, it worked out for me.
You guys rock
They also Frack, apparently....
Smashed it! Sick video
Well done James and Mark, thank you for this funny and informative video! Cheers from Italy 🇮🇹
As a 66 year old engineer/producer with over 500 analog tape sessions under my belt, much of it for albums and radio, my project studio is getting mixing and mastering jobs from artists who record their own tracks but have no idea how to mix and edit them into saleable music. I mix on a console with full automation and recall and the results are reflected in the old school approach.
Keepin it real!
I will definitely a test master on my new track. Will contact u
I'd like to be a flop cat stroking engineer please.
When can I start?
What do I need to bring for my induction day apart from a pair of hands.
Does flop cat enforce a dress code for new employees or am I okay to wear anything.
Is lunch provided?
DM me all info and I will be there prompt and on time, but....
I might be a day late and a dollar short.
Jokes aside, Thanks for the tip & advice guys.
Every video you put out is invaluable, priceless advice.
Love you both for it.
Amazing work haha
Warning the cat may bite you! lol
Im planning of starting a studio..i need guidance n need ppl who love music n hoping tk join with there grp n then we can take it further
Heyola!
Are there 32bit audio interfaces to use with Pro Tools, Cubase or Nuendo etc.?
You can use the Sound Devices mix pre series as USB audio interfaces. I’m not sure if the 32bit translates though, we’re testing it for a future video
It is now long overdue for a very specific video: The origin story of Flop Cat. The lore of your mascot needs to be shared with the world.
What a great idea!
You should sell Flopcat NFTs. That’s where the real money is.
I am definitely going to look into this, as so many people have said it!
@@PresentDayProduction please, no... Please.
10:38 for the love of christ please tell me where to get this job
Hey guys,
I would like to say sorry I didn't watch all of your videos already. I will certainly do it, they are just too good. Every time i see a new video it's already better than 99.999% of videos on this topic. I feel like I need to send you money or something... Oh wait, I can. Let me find a job real quick XD
Thank you Aleksy!
"All else" has indeed failed for me...
I'm good with cats...
Can I have a job please?
I also make good tea for grumpy mastering engineers...
(This is mostly a joke, but also, I do need a job. Commercial studio owners, please feel free to get in touch)
Tony kroos😂
Is there a bag of dosh to be earned for supplying sarcastic & shit comments on RUclips sites..? Ow... bugger.
John Cage did a famous Library Music track... well, they always used to demand silence back then.
I often earn a four-figure amount, for a day of my time... as much as £10.99, if I buy my own lunch.
I wish there was, because I’d donate to the comedy fund!