I remember all the Mars, Lightning and that crazy Gigabyte super overclocked card with the 5 server fans. The insanity of them blew my mind when starting out in PC building.
Your issues could be related to the "SLI tax"... back in the day the motherboard vendors had to "validate" their motherboards with nVidia to be able to support SLI and the driver would block SLI on non "certified" boards
@@Dabaski That's LITERALLY what I said. I have a HUGE problem with people who say something I have already said, and then claim it as their own, so PISS OFF!
Thanks for the video! It is surely a beautiful card from Asus. It is outdated a bit for sure but I'd still love to see benchmarks from quad sli if it's ever possible to boot up. (Will probably require older drivers and an older version of Windows..) Wil be looking forward to the Mars 1 video👍
"Overclocking at home is not as fun as it used to" I hear you. Everything coming close to limit, we only have RAM left to have fun. And APUs are also still fun. The rest is meh, unless more cheap motherboards come with clock generator for BCLK on Intel. Funny thing though, is that on Skylake, even cheap z170 mobos without clockgen could BCLK with proper microcode. Wonder how that worked.
@@hellsoul0 from locked/budget products - no, it's really good, from unlocked enthusiast-grade components - yes, it is bad, oc is (almost) the only reason to buy them the same situation is with cars - if you want to mod a car, you're stuck with early 2010-s at max, no matter what class of car you aim for
@@hellsoul0 Overclockable parts are usually pretty close to the limit, now. Take the i7-11700K. It comes able to do 5GHz on one core. it seems roughly 5.3GHz on all-cores is about where the home overclockers hit a pretty hard wall. On the other hand, my old Xeon X5670 maxed out at 3.33GHz on one core, and I had that happily running at 4.2GHz all-core. Intel and AMD are binning cores now, not just chips. Less and less performance is being left on the table.
@@hellsoul0 I think both guys above have stated current situation very well. But yeah, typically, nowadays, I mostly bother tuning RAM as most motherboards cant train it well (which makes sense, otherwise POST process would be too long). I think the increased competition on the industry, along with more advanced boosting algorithms have contributed to manufacturers pushing their chips close to the limit. As for GPUs, it is even more boring in recent years, because the BIOSes and Drivers have nearly locked all the fun aspects of tuning, so unless you physically mod a card, it is hard to bypass pre-established power and voltage limits. Not to mention work with memory timings on the GPUs as those are hard locked on their BIOSes. Sometimes some hacks appear for AMD card, but the last one came from Igor and I dont think 6000 series have anything yet, but I could be wrong. Polaris was the last real fun card to overclock/edit bios IMO, nowadays I have more fun with APUs. Too bad that it seems AMD is not bringing decent RDNA2 APUs for Desktop, they saved it for mobile. I really hate mobile stuff, on top of that, mobile chips have hard locked voltage tuning on 5000 series laptop, can't undervolt it. Didnt know before I bought it, pisses me off.
Casually beating Buildzoid's record from forever ago lol I'd love to see what kind of trouble you two could get into if you lived in the same region. Love the content like this. You're the man.
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!! That's a seriously cool card Roman. Since you have 2, my thought is why not do some thermal/cooling mods to one of them to see what sort of performance increase/lower temps you can get - something as simple as creating a duct from the fans to the heatsink so air is forced more directly to it, and adding some cooling to everything else that isn't cooled. Would be a damn cool project to add more modern cooling without changing the appearance of the card.
@@youtubeisgarbage900 He said he has 2, he asked for ideas, nothing I suggested would damage or harm the card. When you only produce 1k of an item like that, it's going to be expensive new, farless 10 years old, get a grip. As to the Civics thing, I guess that's an american thing, don't get it, don't care.
I had an EVGA 2Win Dual GTX 460. It was a big deal at the time... used the nForce sli bridge chip onboard. That was my first lesson that sometimes a PSU will be a limiting factor. Feels like a lifetime ago...
Error code 12 is common when setting up an egpu. Most times increasing the pcie bar space solves the problem. The problem is most laptops can’t addres enough memory space to a gpu. Could be something similar on the Alder lake desktop. Maybe
Windows 7 was not good at egpu on laptop external out if the box , Windows 10 works out of the box, even on thunderbolt 1 or 2 as long as you install the os with an egpu present i found
@@jameshackett9992 I tried it on a thinkpad x230 with an expresscard egpu board. On the software side I tried windows 10 and 11. You need to modify a System file and load it on startup with something like clover. But i can only speak about expresscard solutions.
When I 1st got my 3080, late last summer, my 9900k and Hero XI started acting up, so I bunged the 3080 in my old i7 2600K machine, while I waiting for 12th gen Intel to be released. I was able to get 4th place on Time Spy with a 2600k, I hadn't even touched the GPU, everything was stock, lol.
I miss the days of 20-35% overclocks being possible. Had a pair of 7970 Lightning cards that ran at 1250 MHz... these days anything more than a 5% overclock feels like a success.
I had an old 580 Matrix Platinum and I thought it was sooooo cool how they gave that card hardware buttons for increasing Vcore voltage. I wish they would bring real OC features like that back to cards but im sure that will never happen with modern silicon's internal power management features and limiters.
Fermi got some basic dx12 support added to the driver awhile back. Still no Vulcan but at least some dx12 stuff is playable now. I’m sure anything dx12 on this would use only a single gpu. Though I do wonder if that mode Microsoft talked about where you could mix say, an igpu and dgpu of any variety… if any of those games could work with both.
I remember, that they actually brought out motherboards with Nvidia chipsets that were targeted towards SLI builds. The other issue with running the quad SLI setup, might a simple bios change from auto detect to setting the bus to Gen 2.
Interesting that this video just got recommended to me. I saw one of these cards listed for sale on Craigslist here in Vancouver recently for $3000. The ad is down now, so presumably someone bought it. The title of the ad said it was limited edition, but I really didn't ever actually check if it was. I definitely wouldn't pay $3000 CAD for one, but cool to see that this actually was a limited edition card.
Sli was a very useful feature, back then you could upgrade to an sli build with a older card for a good perf uptick than buying a new card or the enthusiast could get the highest available perf for benches or high demand games. Today inflation and profitability probably make it impossible to do again
hello, really nice video! I have an i5-12600K on which I will want to over clock, in your opinion it is better to opt for the practice of delidding with the copper IHS kit in copper (by RockItCoolper) for the Intel 12 gen using the delid kit to remove the heatpreader and use the copper plate (say it's too risky?), or is it better to just use plain liquid metal instead of thermal paste without disassembling anything? What do you suggest. Anyway, congratulations for the channel, always very useful content for many of us😀
We need 2 of the upcoming 3090 TI’s on 1 board in sli. Imagine that, 900-1000 watt TDP/TGP, 2 12+4 (16 pin) PCIE 5.0 power connectors, and it would almost certainly have to be water cooled versions only. But you would have over 20,000 Cuda cores, and 48GB VRAM with over 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth. That card would probably cost over 10 grand though lol.
I still have and use my Poseidon 980Ti (ITX) and Poseidon 1080Ti (ATX); I even nearly got the Matrix 2080Ti before deciding to wait for 30XX (then GPU-mageddon happened), otherwise much of the same story. Unfortunately, at the time the Mars 2 was a thing, college me's budget was more reference 550Ti' in SLI. Still, for my first proper gaming computer, so worth it; I just had to do dual GPUs another way, is all.
I have two of the Asus Ares 3 dual GPU liquid cooled video cards running in crossfire currently installed in my backup computer on a Asus Rampage 5 motherboard with the intel core I7 8 core 5960X. There were only 500 of these video cards made. When I bought them brand new they cost almost $2500.00 Canadian each and they still play most games smoothly, although not very high frame rates if all the video settings are cranked. it sees very little use these days since I built a modern one. The TDP of these cards is rated at 600 watts per card.
@@peterzeboroff7448 ypu can use an image hosting service like imgur and sending the link here. Really interested in seeing what a "quad" GPU water cooled setup looks like
'For the bird to finally see it happen from the ground, lo, the sacks of forbidden meat shall acknowledge the true test!' - Me, when I was high, just now
i got one of these back in the day! from ncix system with i7-2600k and mars II. just sitting in my closet now sadly. was my first gaming rig, was awesome.
I got EVGA's competitor to this card for which only 500 were made and were pretty much exclusive to the US aside from a few example that made it to the EU.
If I were to guess, the cards aren’t able to run at x8 with sli because then each chip would only be getting x4 after the split, which might not be enough bandwidth (at least in their firmware) to run. If you were to use an HEDT platform, SLI might work.
And because they're triple slot the card on the main pci-e is suffering cooling ability. You need the EVGA N780 triple sli mainboard as all 3 pci-e slots are x16. Install on slots 1 and 3 and both cards will get proper airflow and maybe able to run in quad sli.
You're absolutely right about cards now being close to their limits from the factory. The first card I overclocked was a Diamond Stealth II 4 MB card. I had added a heat sink and fan to the GPU and heat sinks to all the ram chips. Didn't know much back then, I used superglue to affix everything! That being said....stock clock was 40 Mhz...stable O/C clock after cooling solution superglued in place, I still laugh, I got the card to run stable at 72 Mhz!!! That's an 80% O/C. Somehow I thought the card was factory at 35 Mhz. , I swear I remember striving to get that 100 % O/C from stock and doing it. I do still have it!
I have 2 x GTX 690 reference cards which can play the second-newest Doom game in 1080p with all settings on max at 45+ FPS. They were running fine in a quad-SLI configuration. Only a few games would scale well with the SLI though. I went through all of The Division on that setup and I had no low FPS issues.
Roman, Maybe it's my 2 cents but it is possible that quite a lot of old GPUs can't get along with UEFI bioses of modern mobo. For exemple I used to keep a good old G610 for troubleshooting, and I had to stop use it because of that : on a modern machine (tested on Z170, 270, and every AMD post-FX chipsets... no signal, even with CSM enabled. But when I pair it with a X58 for example... no problem
the MARS III did come to market they only released 1000 units. i got one it no longer works but i still have it. its on my shelf as part of my stream background
If a manufacturer was allowed to do another dual GPU, they might not even ned the bridge chips anymore - at least if they target specific boards that allow the PCIe lanes from the CPU to be split.
i have a pair of every Asus Ares cards they ever made and the a pair 295x2 cards included. all now decorations on the unit in my gaming room. i never fancied the Mars, nothing about them sadly blew my mind which was a shame as they shuld have been outstanding
Usually I hate when people leave unrelated comments, but today I'm that guy.. I'm a guitar guy, love music made by instruments and tend to hate electronic music unless it's really got soul or is catchy and I hate it for being corney or something.. I also usually hate intro music Something about your intro, I'm so used to tapping the arrow key to skip video intros and I just found myself stoned and really wanted to hear it before watching this video that has nothing to do with anything I'll ever do or know about until I snap out of it and carry on to something mildly more productive- like video games. I guess I could have just said I really like your intro music and I keep coming back to your videos.... If only for the BwoWWWW bwoww bwow bwow BWOWWWWW
Any relationship to the TITAN? Back in the 1990s, I wanted two things: An Alienware and TITAN. Just couldn't afford either. Would you go back in time to the early NVIDIA GPUs? And, play THE game of that time, the original DOOM.
It might be big, but in fact there are quite a few 3000 series cards that are comparable. Like the Gigabyte 3090 Master and the Galaxy 3090 HOF. I also wonder if Quad-SLI might work on other platforms? Like X299? 7800GT Dual was a fun one, I kept it in the original box, even :)
Just a guess: Regarding the ssd not detected, it's because the motherboard was in UEFI mode when you installed Windows. GPUs from 2011 requires CSM (legacy) mode. The motherboard automatically switches to CSM mode when the Mars 2 was installed and that disables the UEFI ssd. However, that does not explain why the ssd can get detected when it was installed on the bottom M.2 slot
What was disappointing about MARS II was that the Original MARS had more VRAM. For some reason ASUS didn't double GTX 580's 1.5GB VRAM like they did with the previous model.
Wondering if the MARS II card was downgrading the PCIE Gen 4 lanes for the MVME SSD (Even though it wasn't available back then). My Hero WiFi 12 board can only run one device Gen 4 at a time. Great video and really cool card!!
Sorry for being off topic and great video. I got a strix 3090 oc. Is it 24/7 stable to run at 100% gpu voltage and 60mhz extra on gpu? Memory with 150mhz extra. Tops out at 2020mhz, rests at 1980mhz for most of the time at 1.100v. 123% watt power. Normally, retail oc from asus uses 30mhz plus(about 1890 to 1960mhz) at about 1.085v 24/7 at 105% watt power. Temps are at around 70 to 79c° with around 75 to 80% fan speed in CP77. Is that all 24/7 secure? It is stable, indeed.
I also remember all those cards... I had a GTX570 3 slot huge cooler from Asus back then and was also at around 25% OC from a stock one with a 1.2V bios flashed it was like 910mhz 24/7 and up to 915mhz sometimes + a lot of OC the memories too though can't remember the values and that bastard was heavily used until I got a Strix RX480 many years later and it's actually still alive and fully working with 0 problems (at least last time I tested it like 2 or 3 years ago). For some time was actually giving me better performance than a PS4 despite being much older with the huge OC which actually made a HUGE difference, but sadly also the super low Vram size let it down sooner than later ☹
Just replying to your thought about 'retro' hardware, honestly 10 years is a good limit for new vs retro, but it's 15 years for me(just cause I'm a 07-er)
I know for a fact there is a mars 2 at xujiahui in shanghai China. Saw it about a year ago. It was in a black suitcase/plastic box. I don’t know if it sold.
A RTX 3090 MARS or 6900XT MARS would be something completely insane but I shudder at the power consumption of these xD Performance would be bonkers though :D
I still use an Asus Mars 760 dual gpu. It has only 2GB and it struggles a bit with Doom Ethernal, but I play Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Cyberbunk quite well
I'm glad we're so much faster these Days but hardware just isn't as fun as it used to be- the old duel GPUs are awesome! It performs better than I expected too!
It would be very interesting to somehow deal with the micro-stuttering in sli. I think it's conceivable to conquer it with two of these cards. It probably has to do with the pci delivery chip in the middle of the board. Might be able to spot the stuttering with a good oscilloscope to discover exactly how it happens.
Its amazing to think - that RTX 3080 Ti has 10 TIMES the CUDA cores of the entire Mars 2 (512+512 = 1024, 3080 Ti = 10240 CUDA) and probably 1000 times as many transistors!
I remember all the Mars, Lightning and that crazy Gigabyte super overclocked card with the 5 server fans. The insanity of them blew my mind when starting out in PC building.
I had a pair of 290x lightnings under water, and they could pull over 600w each. Only system I ever needed dual PSUs for.
@@ionstorm66 My brother had a pair of GTX 680's lightning, also watercooled. That was first time i experienced proper PC gaming
I tried to find one of those gigabyte super overclocks for the longest time for my collection but no luck
Your issues could be related to the "SLI tax"... back in the day the motherboard vendors had to "validate" their motherboards with nVidia to be able to support SLI and the driver would block SLI on non "certified" boards
If the cards were set up as shown in the video at 9:58 it could also be that he needs an SLI bridge.
Although your statement is true, that’s nit what is blocking quad sli here.
i didnt even see an SLI bridge hooked up
@@kennethcook9406 He is missing the SLI connector, that is why it didn't work
@@Dabaski That's LITERALLY what I said.
I have a HUGE problem with people who say something I have already said, and then claim it as their own, so PISS OFF!
Thanks for the video! It is surely a beautiful card from Asus. It is outdated a bit for sure but I'd still love to see benchmarks from quad sli if it's ever possible to boot up. (Will probably require older drivers and an older version of Windows..) Wil be looking forward to the Mars 1 video👍
Will work on it
@@der8auer-en does it not need the sli bridge connector on the cards?
"Overclocking at home is not as fun as it used to" I hear you. Everything coming close to limit, we only have RAM left to have fun. And APUs are also still fun. The rest is meh, unless more cheap motherboards come with clock generator for BCLK on Intel. Funny thing though, is that on Skylake, even cheap z170 mobos without clockgen could BCLK with proper microcode. Wonder how that worked.
is it really so bad that nowadays people can get the most performance out of their product out of the box now?
@@hellsoul0 from locked/budget products - no, it's really good, from unlocked enthusiast-grade components - yes, it is bad, oc is (almost) the only reason to buy them
the same situation is with cars - if you want to mod a car, you're stuck with early 2010-s at max, no matter what class of car you aim for
@@hellsoul0 Overclockable parts are usually pretty close to the limit, now. Take the i7-11700K. It comes able to do 5GHz on one core. it seems roughly 5.3GHz on all-cores is about where the home overclockers hit a pretty hard wall.
On the other hand, my old Xeon X5670 maxed out at 3.33GHz on one core, and I had that happily running at 4.2GHz all-core. Intel and AMD are binning cores now, not just chips. Less and less performance is being left on the table.
@@hellsoul0 I think both guys above have stated current situation very well. But yeah, typically, nowadays, I mostly bother tuning RAM as most motherboards cant train it well (which makes sense, otherwise POST process would be too long). I think the increased competition on the industry, along with more advanced boosting algorithms have contributed to manufacturers pushing their chips close to the limit. As for GPUs, it is even more boring in recent years, because the BIOSes and Drivers have nearly locked all the fun aspects of tuning, so unless you physically mod a card, it is hard to bypass pre-established power and voltage limits. Not to mention work with memory timings on the GPUs as those are hard locked on their BIOSes. Sometimes some hacks appear for AMD card, but the last one came from Igor and I dont think 6000 series have anything yet, but I could be wrong. Polaris was the last real fun card to overclock/edit bios IMO, nowadays I have more fun with APUs. Too bad that it seems AMD is not bringing decent RDNA2 APUs for Desktop, they saved it for mobile. I really hate mobile stuff, on top of that, mobile chips have hard locked voltage tuning on 5000 series laptop, can't undervolt it. Didnt know before I bought it, pisses me off.
by ddr6 or ddr7 we will have PBO like thing for RAM on the fly or something.
Casually beating Buildzoid's record from forever ago lol I'd love to see what kind of trouble you two could get into if you lived in the same region. Love the content like this. You're the man.
Love the HW-Legends series - hope to see more.
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!! That's a seriously cool card Roman. Since you have 2, my thought is why not do some thermal/cooling mods to one of them to see what sort of performance increase/lower temps you can get - something as simple as creating a duct from the fans to the heatsink so air is forced more directly to it, and adding some cooling to everything else that isn't cooled. Would be a damn cool project to add more modern cooling without changing the appearance of the card.
Just slap on a water block if you want performance.
@smokeyjo123e Yup, compared to the brilliant one you proposed, damn crap :skep:
@@youtubeisgarbage900 He said he has 2, he asked for ideas, nothing I suggested would damage or harm the card. When you only produce 1k of an item like that, it's going to be expensive new, farless 10 years old, get a grip.
As to the Civics thing, I guess that's an american thing, don't get it, don't care.
I chased this card for years and was unsuccessful. Another great video!
I love the hardware legend series ! Thanks for doing this !
I had an EVGA 2Win Dual GTX 460. It was a big deal at the time... used the nForce sli bridge chip onboard. That was my first lesson that sometimes a PSU will be a limiting factor. Feels like a lifetime ago...
Error code 12 is common when setting up an egpu. Most times increasing the pcie bar space solves the problem. The problem is most laptops can’t addres enough memory space to a gpu. Could be something similar on the Alder lake desktop. Maybe
My exact thoughts! I encountered this error when experimenting with egpu on my laptop
Windows 7 was not good at egpu on laptop external out if the box , Windows 10 works out of the box, even on thunderbolt 1 or 2 as long as you install the os with an egpu present i found
@@jameshackett9992 I tried it on a thinkpad x230 with an expresscard egpu board. On the software side I tried windows 10 and 11. You need to modify a System file and load it on startup with something like clover. But i can only speak about expresscard solutions.
Mine was a cleavo laptop p375 with original thunder bolt port,
So awesome to see this card in action didn’t realize how big it was
Most beautiful PCB! So many components!
Great content brother
When I 1st got my 3080, late last summer, my 9900k and Hero XI started acting up, so I bunged the 3080 in my old i7 2600K machine, while I waiting for 12th gen Intel to be released. I was able to get 4th place on Time Spy with a 2600k, I hadn't even touched the GPU, everything was stock, lol.
You waiting for the 12900ks or already bought a different 12th gen?
I loved both BF3 and 4. Loved to watch the shenanigans on a YTer named Doom49.
Would love to see the horror that is the quad SLI on this card sometime sounds like great content
a n i m e
n
i
m
e
The first Mars edition was also amazing and I think I just saw one in my life.
I miss the days of 20-35% overclocks being possible. Had a pair of 7970 Lightning cards that ran at 1250 MHz... these days anything more than a 5% overclock feels like a success.
I miss the days when 60% overclocks on a cpu were still a thing.
@@MrKillswitch88 e4300 was a tiny beast
I had an old 580 Matrix Platinum and I thought it was sooooo cool how they gave that card hardware buttons for increasing Vcore voltage. I wish they would bring real OC features like that back to cards but im sure that will never happen with modern silicon's internal power management features and limiters.
Fermi got some basic dx12 support added to the driver awhile back. Still no Vulcan but at least some dx12 stuff is playable now. I’m sure anything dx12 on this would use only a single gpu. Though I do wonder if that mode Microsoft talked about where you could mix say, an igpu and dgpu of any variety… if any of those games could work with both.
Buildzoid is now calling up an agent47, watch out for low flying briefcases Roman.
I remember, that they actually brought out motherboards with Nvidia chipsets that were targeted towards SLI builds.
The other issue with running the quad SLI setup, might a simple bios change from auto detect to setting the bus to Gen 2.
This was nice to watch. I remember my 590 setup. Hot and noisy. Sold it after 6 months. Reason, stuttering. I hated it! Good-stuff great video!
I have a 760MARS around that is quite interesting while not as sought out as the other models!
Interesting that this video just got recommended to me. I saw one of these cards listed for sale on Craigslist here in Vancouver recently for $3000. The ad is down now, so presumably someone bought it. The title of the ad said it was limited edition, but I really didn't ever actually check if it was. I definitely wouldn't pay $3000 CAD for one, but cool to see that this actually was a limited edition card.
I had this card, no. 591/999. Such a beast at the time. Paid 150 € for it in early 2014 as it was a pain to run.
This is awesome!
I still have my 295x2, considering turning it into an art piece somehow, rip dual GPU cards.
Sli was a very useful feature, back then you could upgrade to an sli build with a older card for a good perf uptick than buying a new card or the enthusiast could get the highest available perf for benches or high demand games. Today inflation and profitability probably make it impossible to do again
Didn’t realize it was that big I remember when it came out, I like weird rare cards like this I find them very interesting
they probably need two x16 ports for sli, alder lake has two x8. You might try with threadripper board.
hello, really nice video! I have an i5-12600K on which I will want to over clock, in your opinion it is better to opt for the practice of delidding with the copper IHS kit in copper (by RockItCoolper) for the Intel 12 gen using the delid kit to remove the heatpreader and use the copper plate (say it's too risky?), or is it better to just use plain liquid metal instead of thermal paste without disassembling anything? What do you suggest. Anyway, congratulations for the channel, always very useful content for many of us😀
I definitely would love to see the Mars II sli project! Very cool.
We need 2 of the upcoming 3090 TI’s on 1 board in sli. Imagine that, 900-1000 watt TDP/TGP, 2 12+4 (16 pin) PCIE 5.0 power connectors, and it would almost certainly have to be water cooled versions only. But you would have over 20,000 Cuda cores, and 48GB VRAM with over 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth. That card would probably cost over 10 grand though lol.
Spoiler Alert: He did not.
BF3/4 were great. I used to play them with 2x 7770 in crossfire.
The Matrix Platinum card i had back then was my pride and joy and the closest i could get to a Mars 2 without selling an arm and a limb.
I still have and use my Poseidon 980Ti (ITX) and Poseidon 1080Ti (ATX); I even nearly got the Matrix 2080Ti before deciding to wait for 30XX (then GPU-mageddon happened), otherwise much of the same story.
Unfortunately, at the time the Mars 2 was a thing, college me's budget was more reference 550Ti' in SLI.
Still, for my first proper gaming computer, so worth it; I just had to do dual GPUs another way, is all.
I have two of the Asus Ares 3 dual GPU liquid cooled video cards running in crossfire currently installed in my backup computer on a Asus Rampage 5 motherboard with the intel core I7 8 core 5960X. There were only 500 of these video cards made. When I bought them brand new they cost almost $2500.00 Canadian each and they still play most games smoothly, although not very high frame rates if all the video settings are cranked. it sees very little use these days since I built a modern one. The TDP of these cards is rated at 600 watts per card.
can I see a photo of that rig? it sounds REALLY interesting and cool
@@faolor6468 I could send you a few photos but I need a email to send them too
@@peterzeboroff7448 ypu can use an image hosting service like imgur and sending the link here. Really interested in seeing what a "quad" GPU water cooled setup looks like
'For the bird to finally see it happen from the ground, lo, the sacks of forbidden meat shall acknowledge the true test!' - Me, when I was high, just now
i got one of these back in the day! from ncix system with i7-2600k and mars II. just sitting in my closet now sadly. was my first gaming rig, was awesome.
Massive respect for putting BF3 in the very first benchmark
I got EVGA's competitor to this card for which only 500 were made and were pretty much exclusive to the US aside from a few example that made it to the EU.
Ah this takes me back! I ran tri-SLI GTX 580 for many years. Best days of overclocking!
Great video!
thanks!
If I were to guess, the cards aren’t able to run at x8 with sli because then each chip would only be getting x4 after the split, which might not be enough bandwidth (at least in their firmware) to run. If you were to use an HEDT platform, SLI might work.
"Nice accent, Dude, it reminds me when Australia was affordable too..."
And because they're triple slot the card on the main pci-e is suffering cooling ability. You need the EVGA N780 triple sli mainboard as all 3 pci-e slots are x16. Install on slots 1 and 3 and both cards will get proper airflow and maybe able to run in quad sli.
You're absolutely right about cards now being close to their limits from the factory. The first card I overclocked was a Diamond Stealth II 4 MB card. I had added a heat sink and fan to the GPU and heat sinks to all the ram chips. Didn't know much back then, I used superglue to affix everything! That being said....stock clock was 40 Mhz...stable O/C clock after cooling solution superglued in place, I still laugh, I got the card to run stable at 72 Mhz!!! That's an 80% O/C. Somehow I thought the card was factory at 35 Mhz. , I swear I remember striving to get that 100 % O/C from stock and doing it. I do still have it!
I have 2 x GTX 690 reference cards which can play the second-newest Doom game in 1080p with all settings on max at 45+ FPS. They were running fine in a quad-SLI configuration. Only a few games would scale well with the SLI though. I went through all of The Division on that setup and I had no low FPS issues.
I've been checking second hand websites for years to see if there is one for sale just to display it
the old ROG like mars or poseidon was the "real" ROG design! i love the old ROG
Roman, Maybe it's my 2 cents but it is possible that quite a lot of old GPUs can't get along with UEFI bioses of modern mobo.
For exemple I used to keep a good old G610 for troubleshooting, and I had to stop use it because of that : on a modern machine (tested on Z170, 270, and every AMD post-FX chipsets... no signal, even with CSM enabled. But when I pair it with a X58 for example... no problem
the MARS III did come to market they only released 1000 units. i got one it no longer works but i still have it. its on my shelf as part of my stream background
Agree, these cards are very special and we love them as hardware enthusiasts. Too bad obsolescence is a bit***, but even so, it's a keeper.
Looks super cool. Wanted to do crossfire cause it sounded so cool in 2020 with my first build but it didn't make sense anymore
That thing is MASSIVE
If a manufacturer was allowed to do another dual GPU, they might not even ned the bridge chips anymore - at least if they target specific boards that allow the PCIe lanes from the CPU to be split.
its interesting to see that ihs on the gpu, didnt know that nvidia do that back in those days
i have a pair of every Asus Ares cards they ever made and the a pair 295x2 cards included. all now decorations on the unit in my gaming room.
i never fancied the Mars, nothing about them sadly blew my mind which was a shame as they shuld have been outstanding
Usually I hate when people leave unrelated comments, but today I'm that guy..
I'm a guitar guy, love music made by instruments and tend to hate electronic music unless it's really got soul or is catchy and I hate it for being corney or something..
I also usually hate intro music
Something about your intro, I'm so used to tapping the arrow key to skip video intros and I just found myself stoned and really wanted to hear it before watching this video that has nothing to do with anything I'll ever do or know about until I snap out of it and carry on to something mildly more productive- like video games.
I guess I could have just said I really like your intro music and I keep coming back to your videos.... If only for the BwoWWWW bwoww bwow bwow BWOWWWWW
back then the DIY market was amazing
Damn that's hot, with 2x 3050 you can almost have the power of a Mars2
Fairly certain Alderlake does not permit 4x 4lane configuration. Only 16 lane, 2x 8 lane or 1x 8 lane plus 2x 4 lane.
Any relationship to the TITAN? Back in the 1990s, I wanted two things: An Alienware and TITAN. Just couldn't afford either. Would you go back in time to the early NVIDIA GPUs? And, play THE game of that time, the original DOOM.
It might be big, but in fact there are quite a few 3000 series cards that are comparable. Like the Gigabyte 3090 Master and the Galaxy 3090 HOF.
I also wonder if Quad-SLI might work on other platforms? Like X299?
7800GT Dual was a fun one, I kept it in the original box, even :)
For an 11 years old hardware, it looks beautiful, the design is way ahead of it's time
*its
What an amazing card!
I had the MARS 760. Was a really nice card.
"I saw buildzoid had first, so i went ahead and took it"
Savage
love the mars and ares ccards, i have an old sapphire water cooled atomic 3870x2
Looks like the great RTX 590 overclocking war has begun!
Just a guess: Regarding the ssd not detected, it's because the motherboard was in UEFI mode when you installed Windows. GPUs from 2011 requires CSM (legacy) mode. The motherboard automatically switches to CSM mode when the Mars 2 was installed and that disables the UEFI ssd. However, that does not explain why the ssd can get detected when it was installed on the bottom M.2 slot
What was disappointing about MARS II was that the Original MARS had more VRAM. For some reason ASUS didn't double GTX 580's 1.5GB VRAM like they did with the previous model.
Wondering if the MARS II card was downgrading the PCIE Gen 4 lanes for the MVME SSD (Even though it wasn't available back then). My Hero WiFi 12 board can only run one device Gen 4 at a time. Great video and really cool card!!
Dual power supply for load start when I had a core2quad x48 2x 8800gtx + was crysis at 60fps even in snow levels
broooo i remember when this came out!!!! i wanted one so bad
oh man, I forgot about this thing, what a beast.
Sorry for being off topic and great video. I got a strix 3090 oc. Is it 24/7 stable to run at 100% gpu voltage and 60mhz extra on gpu? Memory with 150mhz extra. Tops out at 2020mhz, rests at 1980mhz for most of the time at 1.100v. 123% watt power. Normally, retail oc from asus uses 30mhz plus(about 1890 to 1960mhz) at about 1.085v 24/7 at 105% watt power. Temps are at around 70 to 79c° with around 75 to 80% fan speed in CP77. Is that all 24/7 secure? It is stable, indeed.
i think that u need to enable above 4g decoding in the bios to be able to run both of the cards
Everyone who mine on multiple GPUs will know ;)
@@zombielinkinpark nah i had a 24gb tesla card that i was using for gaming lol
You must be tough to figure the fan out, I tried multiple fan, only 40mm 10000rpm+ can cool them properly and it get very loud.
@@zombielinkinpark yeh i bought a 3d printed shroud and a blower fan from ebay it was quite loud but i got used to it
yeah SLI was a tech that made people mad with the micro freezes, I really try to like it, but after 3 setups with SLI and 2 with crossfire I give up
I also remember all those cards... I had a GTX570 3 slot huge cooler from Asus back then and was also at around 25% OC from a stock one with a 1.2V bios flashed it was like 910mhz 24/7 and up to 915mhz sometimes + a lot of OC the memories too though can't remember the values and that bastard was heavily used until I got a Strix RX480 many years later and it's actually still alive and fully working with 0 problems (at least last time I tested it like 2 or 3 years ago).
For some time was actually giving me better performance than a PS4 despite being much older with the huge OC which actually made a HUGE difference, but sadly also the super low Vram size let it down sooner than later ☹
What kind of psu's were available when this was released?
Did people run two psu's for a system with this inside?
Awesome video 4 gpus
R9 295x2 now that's a GPU sir !
The size of that thing. Pretty massive looking.
Just replying to your thought about 'retro' hardware, honestly 10 years is a good limit for new vs retro, but it's 15 years for me(just cause I'm a 07-er)
I remeber back in the day installing Gigabyte 3D1 dual 6600GT card
I know for a fact there is a mars 2 at xujiahui in shanghai China. Saw it about a year ago. It was in a black suitcase/plastic box. I don’t know if it sold.
Beautiful card
I was going to buy one of these when they were released, but the price just never made sense at all. Truly just for collectors.
A RTX 3090 MARS or 6900XT MARS would be something completely insane but I shudder at the power consumption of these xD
Performance would be bonkers though :D
6900 XT MARS? lolno, 6900 XT ARES
@@Wasmachineman Oh ye, that'd be even better :D
I still use an Asus Mars 760 dual gpu. It has only 2GB and it struggles a bit with Doom Ethernal, but I play Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Cyberbunk quite well
I'm glad we're so much faster these Days but hardware just isn't as fun as it used to be- the old duel GPUs are awesome! It performs better than I expected too!
Amazing cards. 😎
If you like dual GPUs, the Radeon Pro Duo line of workstation cards can be used for gaming. 🤓
i wish they still made dualchip gpus. i always wanted an sli something. it sounded so cool. too bad the tech never matured enough.
It would be very interesting to somehow deal with the micro-stuttering in sli. I think it's conceivable to conquer it with two of these cards. It probably has to do with the pci delivery chip in the middle of the board. Might be able to spot the stuttering with a good oscilloscope to discover exactly how it happens.
Could the SLI bridge not being connected prevent the 4 GPUS from working?
I remember the GTX 460 MARS, weirdest card, i could understand the top end, but why 2x middle range for that price.
Its amazing to think - that RTX 3080 Ti has 10 TIMES the CUDA cores of the entire Mars 2 (512+512 = 1024, 3080 Ti = 10240 CUDA) and probably 1000 times as many transistors!
who is best for new gaming GTX 950 VS GTX 660 PLEASE TELL ME