@@diegolce While it's true that if both GPUs are underutilized, the difference might not be as drastic as when they are fully pushed to their limits, the 4090 will still generally offer better performance due to its superior hardware. The gap might be less noticeable in certain situations, but it doesn't mean the GPUs will perform identically just because their utilization percentages are the same.
I made this gaming upgrade for about $60 USD. Sold the 5900x got a great deal for the 5700x3d. PC is used for GAMING, general office and media consumption.
Was the experience game changing? I just got my first used pc and it came with 5900x and im debating of going through the hassle of getting a 5700x3d while probably selling my 5900x and having to reinstall windows.
@@ultimategohan1551 ahah, don't do that! you can overclock your 5900x and get a better FPS if you need that. for a lot of other stuff except gaming - 5700x3d is a huge downgrade!! (~ -50%) for games - better use higher resolutions, if you have a high-end gpu. VSR/DSR will help if u don't have a 4K monitor
actaully had almost the same price, in games the 5700x3D its better but for an use more general in pc the Ryzen 9 5900x its better. and still bieng the king in 5000 series the Ryzen 9 5950X but higher price too nor much but yes
It depends on the specific game. In some cases, 3D cache helps a lot. But there are games where it does not affect the result and then extra cores can be more useful.
Worth going from 5900x to 5700x3d? I will be using either 7700xt or 3070ti as the gpu at 1440p. Also maybe for longevity if i plan to upgrade gpu in the future is the 5700x3d better in the long run, also for 1% lows as well?
Not worth it. 5900x is quite enough even for a GPU level 3080-3090 and even more so 6750xt If you overclocked the RAM and adjusted the timings. The difference between these CPUs will be smaller here. In most games, your GPU (6750xt) will be the bottleneck.
@@addfuture I have this same thing, someone sells a 5700X3D for 200eu and some people buy this CPU for 200eu, only painful thing is I bought the 5900X 2 years ago for 419eu..
Ryzen 7 5700X3D, of course, is better in performance per core compared to Ryzen 9 5900X, but you will still have everything resting on the GPU, so you won't see much difference between them.
In real use, yes, the GPU should be a bottleneck in games (the GPU should be used to its full potential). But in this video, the CPU is tested to see what it can do. Therefore, the GPU should not be a bottleneck in tests.
Why have you got the 5900x locked at 4.5ghz only? I run mine with curve optimiser at -25, PBO limits disabled and cppc / cppc preferred cores disabled. Core clocks stay between 4.75 to 4.95 while gaming.
Im sorta a pc noob but i made 2 changes in my bios to my 5900x. Eco mode enabled, curve optimizer to -15 all core and the result is usually sub 90w power consumption and the frequency usually locked at 4.85-4.95ghz according to msi afterburner. Are those good results?
I mainly doing virtualization (running multiple vmware workstations), I currently have ryzen 5 3600, running 12 VMs with it my cpu usage is always 95-100%, planning on upgrade. Which is better for my use case between Ryzen 9 5900x or Ryzen 7 5700x3D?
For such tasks it is better to have more cores and threads. 5900x will be the best for you. And more RAM. And don't forget the 5950x has even more cores and threads (16/32). If you get more profit from this. You can consider 5950x
I mainly do gaming and I currently use Ryzen 5 3600 6core and I have a 3060 gpu, I won't be able to upgrade my gpu in a while maybe so should I go with the 5700x3D or the 5900X ?
I would prefer 5700x3D. This CPU doesn't need fast RAM (ruclips.net/video/yagecYEVUpQ/видео.html) , has lower power consumption, and is slightly better at gaming.
thx for this video. I have a AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core Processor and rog strix 1080TI oc and i think to upgrade to 5900x ore 5700x3d. buit i realy dont know which cpu i should take.. Both are just 20 Euro different so dont matter. I play must times a game called Scum and World of Warships . Have you a hint for me? ty
6600 is an Intel CPU or GPU RX 6600 ? 5700x3D is the best in games for its price. Due to the bigger L3 cache, it shows much better FPS. Also, the 5700x3D is less dependent on Fast RAM (ruclips.net/video/yagecYEVUpQ/видео.html). That is, with this CPU you can save a little on RAM and the motherboard without reducing performance (the 5700x3D does not have overclocking). If you do not want to overclock the CPU and RAM, then the 5700x3D will be preferable. 1080 Ti is still a good GPU. But in the future the GPU will have to be updated for 5700x3D With these CPUs you can use PTX 3080, 3090, 4070Ti with 1080p resolution.
@@neochannelbenchmark Thank you for answer. i Have AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core Processor. in past i had the Skylake 6600x CPU SRY for wrong inform,ation in my 1. Post. ATM and i thing at least the next one ore two jears i just play 1080p. YOU think for its "prize" the 5700x3d is the winner BUT the 5900x cost me 214 euro and the 5700x4d cost 239 euro. I dont understand all that number but on paper the 5700x3d have 30000mhz and the 5900x habe the 3700mhz.. and the 5900y also have more cores... bohhh i have no idea lol
@@Nightblood1979 With a ZEN 3 CPU, the number of cores does not affect FPS in all games. ruclips.net/video/UqcWipWxZOM/видео.html If you have a 1080T you will not see the difference between 5600 and 5900x or 5700x3D. To see the differences between CPUs, you need a more powerful GPU, at least 3080-3090 or more powerful.
@@Nightblood1979 If I were you, I'd take the 5700x3D, it's better for gaming. But first it is better to replace the GPU. Check how the GPU will work with your 5600. And then replace the CPU. And perhaps the price of 5700x3D will drop further.
Yo tengo una 3070ti y 48gb de ram en 3600mhz, estoy en duda de si comprar el r7 5700x3d o el r9 5900x, principalmente juego muchos juegos pesados y demandantes, y voy a seguir mejorando el pc, tambien hago stream y edito mis videos, pero busco que sea el mejor rendimiento en juegos, cual me conviene mas?
En cuanto le gustaria pagar por un 5900x? Tengo uno que estoy tratando de salir de el. Quiero comprar un 9900x pero viendo Este video, pa ver si me combiene comprar un x3d barato, en deves de accumular deuda porque voy a necesitar un motherboard y memoria tambien.
5700x3D or 5800x3D (on AM4 socket) are currently the best CPUs for gaming. Due to the increased L3 Cache, these CPUs can give higher FPS. But it all depends on your GPU. Because if the GPU is a bottleneck, the differences between CPUs may not be noticeable.
estou com um problema no meu computador em um jogo específico (pubg) está dando muitas travadas, já formatei o computador e fiz de tudo . E não resolveu, você saberia me dizer oque pode ser? Meu computador está com placa mãe b450 gaming Ryzen 5 3600 Rtx 4060 32 ram dual chanel cl19 E o jogo está no ssd Eu estou achando que devo trocar de processador, vi que o pubg exige um CPU mais forte Qual devo comprar?
Olá. Não notei nenhum travamento neste jogo. Quedas de curto prazo no FPS podem ser encontradas neste jogo. Mas isso não é crítico. Atualize todos os drivers. Ou exclua e baixe novamente o jogo. Às vezes isso ajuda.
The GPU is not a bottleneck in these tests. Therefore, it does not affect the result. Proof ruclips.net/video/4SUWTWRdocE/видео.html I indicated all the system parameters in the video and description. Unfortunately, it was not possible to do these tests with the same components. p.s. You can do a test with these CPUs as you think is right.
why are you using a different gpu on different cpu's? doesn't that remove the whole fps comparison?
Hi. Good question.
I answered in great detail here ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHI06Ko2x5ruvqBJawMYNAZB3zCUfinRZ
If both GPU are below 100% usage, then doesn't matter if it is a 4060 or 4090.
@@diegolce that's utter bullshit
@@diegolce While it's true that if both GPUs are underutilized, the difference might not be as drastic as when they are fully pushed to their limits, the 4090 will still generally offer better performance due to its superior hardware. The gap might be less noticeable in certain situations, but it doesn't mean the GPUs will perform identically just because their utilization percentages are the same.
@@diegolce I'm almost certain this is horseshit
The 5700x3d has crazy good power consumption while gaming. It runs with a similar wattage as my Ryzen 5 3600. That's amazing for a rated tdp of 105 w!
5700x3d is an excellent gaming CPU for socket AM4
For best performance I use undervolt -20
ruclips.net/video/EEEKtsW2ZzE/видео.html
I made this gaming upgrade for about $60 USD. Sold the 5900x got a great deal for the 5700x3d. PC is used for GAMING, general office and media consumption.
5700x3d is a great CPU for gaming on AM4 socket.
Was the experience game changing? I just got my first used pc and it came with 5900x and im debating of going through the hassle of getting a 5700x3d while probably selling my 5900x and having to reinstall windows.
@@ultimategohan1551 ahah, don't do that! you can overclock your 5900x and get a better FPS if you need that.
for a lot of other stuff except gaming - 5700x3d is a huge downgrade!! (~ -50%)
for games - better use higher resolutions, if you have a high-end gpu. VSR/DSR will help if u don't have a 4K monitor
whats the point of picking those cpus and playing at 1080p?
I7 4790k 5Ghz (16gb ram 2400Mhz) va ryzen 5 3600 @stock (16gb ram 3200Mhz)
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actaully had almost the same price, in games the 5700x3D its better but for an use more general in pc the Ryzen 9 5900x its better. and still bieng the king in 5000 series the Ryzen 9 5950X but higher price too nor much but yes
It depends on the specific game. In some cases, 3D cache helps a lot. But there are games where it does not affect the result and then extra cores can be more useful.
Worth going from 5900x to 5700x3d? I will be using either 7700xt or 3070ti as the gpu at 1440p. Also maybe for longevity if i plan to upgrade gpu in the future is the 5700x3d better in the long run, also for 1% lows as well?
id prefer ultra but 720p or even lower res. ALOT of games now have huge diff in cpu usage and demand between settings
Most games already use a scale of 50% (720p). But if you don't lower the graphics settings, the GPU will be a bottleneck.
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I have 5900x was thinking about upgrading to this cpu mostly game now but I don't know if it's worth it or not my GPU is a 6750 xt I play at 1440 p
Not worth it. 5900x is quite enough even for a GPU level 3080-3090 and even more so 6750xt
If you overclocked the RAM and adjusted the timings. The difference between these CPUs will be smaller here.
In most games, your GPU (6750xt) will be the bottleneck.
Okay thanks was about to try order one lol my motherboard is a x570 tomahawk my ram is 32 gb of ripjaws c14
3600 on RAM speed
Worth it if you sell your 5900x. You can sell it for same price as a 5700x3D and the gaming increases will be noticeable.
@@addfuture I have this same thing, someone sells a 5700X3D for 200eu and some people buy this CPU for 200eu, only painful thing is I bought the 5900X 2 years ago for 419eu..
Ryzen 7 5700X3D, of course, is better in performance per core compared to Ryzen 9 5900X, but you will still have everything resting on the GPU, so you won't see much difference between them.
In real use, yes, the GPU should be a bottleneck in games (the GPU should be used to its full potential).
But in this video, the CPU is tested to see what it can do. Therefore, the GPU should not be a bottleneck in tests.
Why temperature diff is so big? I dont get it. In all games 5900X side has both gpu and cpu temps +10-20C more ...
3D CPUs are hotter.
During the 5700x3D tests, my room could have been hot.
Why have you got the 5900x locked at 4.5ghz only?
I run mine with curve optimiser at -25, PBO limits disabled and cppc / cppc preferred cores disabled.
Core clocks stay between 4.75 to 4.95 while gaming.
This is not my CPU; I could not carry out such actions with it before the tests.
Is safe to do that? Can you teach me how to do it? 🥹 Please
Im sorta a pc noob but i made 2 changes in my bios to my 5900x. Eco mode enabled, curve optimizer to -15 all core and the result is usually sub 90w power consumption and the frequency usually locked at 4.85-4.95ghz according to msi afterburner. Are those good results?
I mainly doing virtualization (running multiple vmware workstations), I currently have ryzen 5 3600, running 12 VMs with it my cpu usage is always 95-100%, planning on upgrade. Which is better for my use case between Ryzen 9 5900x or Ryzen 7 5700x3D?
For such tasks it is better to have more cores and threads. 5900x will be the best for you. And more RAM.
And don't forget the 5950x has even more cores and threads (16/32). If you get more profit from this. You can consider 5950x
@@neochannelbenchmark sadly the 5950x is too expensive on my country, i might go for 5900x since its not too pricey compared to 5700x3d. Thank you
5900x, i use mine for similar vm work and upgraded from a 3600 just like you, and my 5900x was a huge upgrade.
I mainly do gaming and I currently use Ryzen 5 3600 6core and I have a 3060 gpu, I won't be able to upgrade my gpu in a while maybe so should I go with the 5700x3D or the 5900X ?
I would prefer 5700x3D.
This CPU doesn't need fast RAM (ruclips.net/video/yagecYEVUpQ/видео.html) , has lower power consumption, and is slightly better at gaming.
Dont think theres any reason at all to upgrade your cpu unless you are having problems.
thx for this video. I have a AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core Processor
and rog strix 1080TI oc and i think to upgrade to 5900x ore 5700x3d. buit i realy dont know which cpu i should take.. Both are just 20 Euro different so dont matter. I play must times a game called Scum and World of Warships . Have you a hint for me? ty
6600 is an Intel CPU or GPU RX 6600 ?
5700x3D is the best in games for its price. Due to the bigger L3 cache, it shows much better FPS. Also, the 5700x3D is less dependent on Fast RAM (ruclips.net/video/yagecYEVUpQ/видео.html). That is, with this CPU you can save a little on RAM and the motherboard without reducing performance (the 5700x3D does not have overclocking).
If you do not want to overclock the CPU and RAM, then the 5700x3D will be preferable.
1080 Ti is still a good GPU. But in the future the GPU will have to be updated for 5700x3D
With these CPUs you can use PTX 3080, 3090, 4070Ti with 1080p resolution.
@@neochannelbenchmark Thank you for answer. i Have AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core Processor. in past i had the Skylake 6600x CPU SRY for wrong inform,ation in my 1. Post. ATM and i thing at least the next one ore two jears i just play 1080p. YOU think for its "prize" the 5700x3d is the winner BUT the 5900x cost me 214 euro and the 5700x4d cost 239 euro. I dont understand all that number but on paper the 5700x3d have 30000mhz and the 5900x habe the 3700mhz.. and the 5900y also have more cores... bohhh i have no idea lol
@@Nightblood1979 With a ZEN 3 CPU, the number of cores does not affect FPS in all games. ruclips.net/video/UqcWipWxZOM/видео.html
If you have a 1080T you will not see the difference between 5600 and 5900x or 5700x3D.
To see the differences between CPUs, you need a more powerful GPU, at least 3080-3090 or more powerful.
@@neochannelbenchmark yeah that i know but soon i will get an 4070ti so you say also i have get a 4070TI the 5700x3d is also better than a 5900X?
@@Nightblood1979 If I were you, I'd take the 5700x3D, it's better for gaming.
But first it is better to replace the GPU. Check how the GPU will work with your 5600. And then replace the CPU. And perhaps the price of 5700x3D will drop further.
Yo tengo una 3070ti y 48gb de ram en 3600mhz, estoy en duda de si comprar el r7 5700x3d o el r9 5900x, principalmente juego muchos juegos pesados y demandantes, y voy a seguir mejorando el pc, tambien hago stream y edito mis videos, pero busco que sea el mejor rendimiento en juegos, cual me conviene mas?
En cuanto le gustaria pagar por un 5900x? Tengo uno que estoy tratando de salir de el. Quiero comprar un 9900x pero viendo Este video, pa ver si me combiene comprar un x3d barato, en deves de accumular deuda porque voy a necesitar un motherboard y memoria tambien.
Muchas gracias.
Está claro que para jugar el 5700x3D y para trabajar (renderizar) el 5900x. Mi problema es que trabajo y juego en la misma máquina 😭
Renderizo en una GPU y 8 núcleos 5700x3D me bastan
Which cpu is better for games and why? All sites show that 5900x is better but this video tells me otherwise.
5700x3D or 5800x3D (on AM4 socket) are currently the best CPUs for gaming.
Due to the increased L3 Cache, these CPUs can give higher FPS.
But it all depends on your GPU. Because if the GPU is a bottleneck, the differences between CPUs may not be noticeable.
estou com um problema no meu computador em um jogo específico (pubg) está dando muitas travadas, já formatei o computador e fiz de tudo . E não resolveu, você saberia me dizer oque pode ser? Meu computador está com placa mãe b450 gaming
Ryzen 5 3600
Rtx 4060
32 ram dual chanel cl19
E o jogo está no ssd
Eu estou achando que devo trocar de processador, vi que o pubg exige um CPU mais forte
Qual devo comprar?
Olá.
Não notei nenhum travamento neste jogo.
Quedas de curto prazo no FPS podem ser encontradas neste jogo. Mas isso não é crítico.
Atualize todos os drivers. Ou exclua e baixe novamente o jogo. Às vezes isso ajuda.
I noticed it says 5950x in the top left, rather than 5900x?
29:23
5950x has 4 cores disabled on both CCDs which is equal to 5900x
which is better for rtx 4060 ryzen 9 5900 x or the x3d ?
for this GPU (RTX 4060) a R5 5600 will be enough
All games are 4-7 years old...where is the new games?
I have tests (R9 5900x) only in these games.
@@neochannelbenchmark I understand.
Lol different ram different GPUs, this test isn't good for wiping arse.
The GPU is not a bottleneck in these tests. Therefore, it does not affect the result. Proof ruclips.net/video/4SUWTWRdocE/видео.html
I indicated all the system parameters in the video and description. Unfortunately, it was not possible to do these tests with the same components.
p.s. You can do a test with these CPUs as you think is right.
You should need to start using most newers games...
In new CPU tests I add new games.
I can’t do tests in new games with those CPUs that I no longer have.