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Here's a Tough Cookie For You Who was the 3rd person Orochimaru Tried To Summon Against Hiruzen? Couldn't be Minato Bkuz he was in the Reapers Belly At the Time so Who??? 🤔 Sasuke Sarutobi???
I think the attack on the uchiha eye storage would be way different, in that konoha would send more than itachi + team 7 considering the value of both goals, eliminating the true leader of akatsuki who may or may not be obito, and the retrevial of uchiha eyes to instead be locked in a konoha vault. most of anbu would be sent as well
@@akainu9367 u cappin my guy this channel is fire af NC does sm work and you can tell sm effort goes into the videos his lore is super complete and I learn sm from them
This isi legit a way better version of your "How Naruto Should've Ended" video. I love the entire concept around this and how it plays out. It makes the show end on a much happier note, without preventing the birth of everyone's kids either in Boruto. Def my fave video you've made so far dude!
The Chakra disease is so weird because I always assumed much more valid illnesses that killed them I always imagined Kimimaro's ability was slowly killing him. He could heal any injuries, which helps with constant damage from bone abilities, but it wasn't regeneration. He was just _healing_ injuries, leaving him with a bunch of scar tissue, both internally and externally. And I always assumed Itachi was suffering from the physical manifestations of his grief and guilt for killing his clan.
Kimimaru's disease could be something much more mundane too: chronic anemia. Your body needs bone marrow to make blood, and Kimimaru constantly used his in combat. His extensive training and Orochimaru's modifications supercharged that ability, and now every time he fights he needs months to recover. This way Orochimaru would have wanted him around as a glass cannon, but his body would be way too frail to be a proper host. As for Itachi, i would give him the old reliable "unnamed heard condition" or say that his extensive usage of sharingan as a child and MS as a teen fucked up his brain chemistry, giving him random seizures and insomnia punctuated by faintings.
Itachi's "Chalkra Disease" was fake he was being poisoned by sasori. If that wasn't the case the and itachi returned to the leaf after completing his mission and became hokage, the leaf village would of probably overthrown their fuedal lord and been the most prosperous village in the land because itachi way smarter than Naruto and Naruto would be of doing more sage training to grow stronger to become hokage, and Kiba wouldnt become hokage because Naruto would have become hokage later in life and Kiba would of passed before he had the chance
No Bro, itachi is dying in the War Arc, or the Pain fight. They still have to kill him before the war arc, he would get revived by Kabuto and he would still go undo reanimation.
@TheLatiosnlatias02 actually no Kishimoto never helped write Boruto Series or character he only came in to work on the (Baryon Mode Arc) he didnt touch any other part of the Boruto Series his old Personal Team Of Writers are the ones that made Boruto Series and Character of Boruto his writers claimed he worked together with them on the full series to make it so they could hold the Naruto fans in check and make it nearly impossible to hate them as hating them would also mean hating Kishimoto whom saved both Naruto and Kurama from being killed off together at the same time by the writers to help Boruto bc he was failing as MC bc he sucks massive grody elephant dick.
I think Itachi's disease was Tuberculosis: He was coughing up blood and by the end, he was in very bad shape. It was shown several times that he had chest pains, and his data sheet shows that his weight is abnormally low (he probably lost weight after he got sick, one of the symptoms of TB is loss of appetite and weight loss). Kisame worried several times that he would catch a cold, also one of the symptoms of TB is that the patient often gets cold and falls to bed easily, this would explain the worry quite well. In addition, TB is an infectious disease that was very common for a long time, and in the world of Naruto it is also hinted that Itachi is not the only one affected (e.g. Sai's adopted brother was also weak and coughed up blood before his death, so there is a good chance that he suffered from the same disease, although he did not we got so many hints that this is the problem)
It's a tamer version of TB if it's tb. Actual TB isn't just infectious, it's highly infectious. A lot more people would have been suffering from it in that world I think. There'd be entire pandemics as in this world TB kills someone every 20 seconds. In 2022 1.3 million people passed from TB and it's a lot more controlled now days than what it was in the past. At any rate though you are right that the chakra illness is some kind of pulmonary disease that's attacking Itachi's lungs.
Love the idea, the one part I wanted to hear talked about is what would happen after the fight between Naruto and Sasuke. Would Naruto still end up travelling with Jiraya if trying to retrieve Sasuke was no longer his goal?
@@X25-m7k i mean yes but no cause nartuo only went because Jiraya promised him to help get sasuke back so without that there's little chance naruto would would agree to the the trip in the first place
I just want you to see your version of Naruto at this point. I know changing a story in hindsight is waaay easier than making it up but I like the Ideas you threw in over your last videos more than what happened tbh .
Bad narrative, boring, jinchurikis have been shown to have amazing regeneration. Why is Madara dying to Guy something that’s good exactly? Edit: they barely even fight in the manga lmao, it’s 3 attacks
@@aetherialbeing4223 All terrible reasons that don't hold up. The lore behind the 8 gates is just as extensive as your bad "jinchuriki" strawman. The 10 tails jinchuriki basically gets killed by it if it weren't for Hashiramas cells, yet you still downplay it was if it was nothing. The ensuing fight between Naruto and Sasuke is no different, it's basically 3 attacks.
@@ThundacokSoulPuncher love how you haven’t actually debunked them and how is the Jinchuriki point a straw man exactly? You stated there was no reason for him not to, I gave reasons. I don’t really know why you’re mentioning Hashirama Cells, if anything that just backs my point more since those cells further back Madara surviving being good. Note how I never said Naruto or Sasuke should have killed him as well or that the fight between them and Madara was good, nice strawman lmfao
@@aetherialbeing4223 They were instantly debunked because they're terrible arguments. Hashirama cells only affect regeneration, where as night guy should've instantly vaporized Madara. You calling 8 gates "3 attacks" is completely overshadowed by Madara admitting that Guy is the strongest he's ever fought. And the way the story direction went it would've made no difference to having madara killed by guy. As long as the tsukuyomi was still cast. Make some better arguments before you get embarrassed
@@ThundacokSoulPuncher you haven’t actually debunked them though. Still waiting on the explanation for the straw man btw Why should it have vaporised him completely? He’s the strongest person he’s fought, doesn’t mean he’s beating 10 tails Madara lmfao Who would cast the Tsukuyomi if Guy beat Madara? Being an arse doesn’t make your stance better btw, just saying
Most villain in Naruto: We were defeated by the power of friendship that the main character has, what about you two? Itachi and Kimimaro: We lost the fight because we were killed by Ninja Diseases
Thing is, Itachi’s felt treatable or even curable if…he didn’t have an (understandable) survivor’s guilt and he basically wanted to die and was only really sticking around to keep his eyes intact for Sasuke, and y’know, if missing nin could have access to healthcare -oooor if he wasn’t ever manipulated into slaughtering his family and culture by Dear Old Danz. And never became a missing nin in the first place.- Kimimaro’s on the other hand was outright bone cancer that his clan was prone to ‘cause of the whole “grow extra bones and pull them out for funzies” thing going on. Which, he did have access to a skilled med nin who would’ve been pretty invested in…well not exactly saving him, but at least preserving his body. Maybe he would’ve stood a chance with Tsunade, Shizune, or Sakura in charge of his care vs Kabuto (who didn’t care about ethics and easily could’ve made things worse because, y’know, human experimentation and What Are Ethics.) But, his was pretty much inevitable and killed relatives if they didn’t die in battle instead
@@anonymousfellow8879 when it comes to itachi I agree he might have been treatable if I'm going to hazard a guess it was pneumonia I believe kisame or obito tell sasuke that itachi had been on medication for years(might have been shorter time frame but I remember drugs being brought up) and he just stopped taking it recently which is why he they knew he was getting ready for his final fight with sasuke
@theforgotton_ MLE It was special ninja medicine that was said to be very very rare and able to cure all diseases. It only made his disease tolerable tho.
Maybe Tsunade somehow gets the information about Itachi and is in a position to help him. She cures the disease. Itachi asks to keep the secret from everyone else. The healer and the killer trade philosophies on doing what for the village. They are the light and shadow of Konoha. I would like a storyline unfolding in that Tsunade seems to have much information on the Akatsuki. This makes tension grow with the village hidden in the Mist. This way the story is more dynamic than just a fight vs the Edo Tensei.
35:18 Itachi and Anko makes a lot of sense. More or less in the sense they balance eachother out. Both have beef with Orochimaru. But they are opposites in Anko is more on the cheeky side and Itachi on the calm stoic side. But at the core both are professionals.
In this timeline, obito wouldn’t have had his stash of sharingan anymore so he prob wouldn’t have used izanagi on konan and he would have instead just fled the fight to not lose his sharingan…. this means konan would be alive… and i can see itachi and konan together 🤷♂️
My daughter and I pause naruto to watch a naruto video 🤣😂 it would be cool if tsunade or sakura would do some investigating on these Chakra diseases. I understand its a writing technique to get rid of OP characters. But these Chakra diseases seem to infect really powerful shinobi with unique jutsus. Great content man. These what if videos are awesome and there's so much you can do with them! Good stuff brotha 😀
Itachi and Mei would’ve been an interesting couple, since she expressed her interest in Sauske, so why not his older brother who would also be a fellow Kage that could give not just her, but also her village the future they’ve wanted. Plus the bonus would be the insanely strong kids they’d open the potential for in Boruto.
@@papipepino. Well, the age gap isn't something to take big consideration in... After all look at real life... There are a lot of marriage with age gaps that are superior to that... Of course nothing like doubling the youngest age, because that's just love for the money, but a 10 years age gap is not exactly that much
@@papipepino. you think that a 10 year difference between them is a lot? Ten years is nothing compared to the centuries or perhaps even millenia between Kaguya and her human husband.
Wait wait wait, there a discrepancy here. If orochimaru never targeted sasuke then neither him nor naruto would be unconscious from their fight. Meaning it would be team 7 as a whole that would fight against the sound ninja plus who ever rolled up so they could’ve just defended themselves
yea but they would have lost that fight imo. They were still the weakest and youngest team of the Konoha 13 until the 3 round where all 3 of them got trained.
@@JasonSmith-fr2jy the sound ninja would still have been in the chunin exams to help orochimaru during the crush arc, there is no saying that they didn’t still end up fighting just for different reasons. I.E if they had been written to have different scrolls or something like that.
Actualy the sound ninja would never target team 7 because orochimaru sent them to sauske to see how the curse mark was bonding to sauske but if orochimaru didnt target sauske than nither would the sound ninja
Don’t understand how you don’t have millions of subscribers with how frequent an in depth you are with your videos but “swagkage” uploads once every one or two months an has 1.1mil with less descriptive information an no hypothesis/theory’s you deserve it all man.
Itachi would never find another woman to love. I can empathize with his situation too well. It doesn't matter how many years pass when you are responsible for the death of a loved one. I thing this is the right answer for your question.
Aside from Anko the only other character I can kinda see is Karin. Both members of a mostly wiped out clan. But how you cross their paths and such would be hard. With out Sasuke going to Orochimaru getting the rest of taka out there is a bit difficult. And not sure who would refill Tsunades chakra during the war arc but I guess you could have them meet and start a connection while Orochimaru was in a team with him. IT would also arugably change the most common clan in the head of Konoha if they married before he became hokage. Given that The first, fourth, fith, in this case sixth, and seventh hokage are either dirrectly married to or actually part Uzumaki with Tsunade being at least 25%. Which would not just finally put a uchiha in power, but remove the Senju as the biggest clan of influence to some extent.
The Hyuga are the largest clan of influence. The Senju pretty much disappeared. The average hyuga over all are above the average Uchiha. It isn't until they evolve the sharigan that they become different beast all together while just having the bakugan makes you around jonin level.
@@artypyrec4186 True the Hyuga on average seem to be higher than the Uchiha. But my point was more how tied the Uzumaki actually are. Mito Uzumaki, Wife of the first hokage sister in law to the second, who first sealed Kurama and become his Jinchūriki. Skip the Third. Fourth Kushina Uzumaki, wife of the fourth second Jinchūriki. Fifth Hokage, grandaugter of Mito, legendary sanin, No direct family Ties with the sixth. Seventh Hokage Naruto Uzumaki, Third Jinchūriki for Kurama...the list goes on. My idea was more if Itachi was to be the sixth hokage instead. Having him marry Karin Uzumaki would also kinda make sense with this trend. Also it would give the clans of the two main characters more than a single vector to restore their clan. Literally having blood lines linked to both Indra and and Asura together into a single family for the first time since the sage of six paths.
what if… hear me out… konan? because she may still be alive in this timeline since obito couldn’t have used izanagi in the fight against her because he would lose his sharingan and he wouldn’t have the stash of extra sharingans (bc itachi and sasuke raided his hideout in this timeline). so obito prob would have just fled the fight against her. so konan would still be alive.
Itachi and Kurenai is an excellent idea! They both control their strong emotions with intense practicality, and both lost the person they loved first. They would also make powerful genjustu babies XD I jest, but that would probably be Itachi's main motivation for giving love a second chance. His "childhood" was defined by conflicting loyalties to the Uchiha and the Leaf, culminating in him almost ending the Uchiha bloodline with his own hands. Now that the war is over and he didn't have to die, I think he would consider it his duty to have children. I was thinking he would probably want to find somebody in a similar position, (like Karin), who he could like and respect and see himself co-parenting with, (not like Karin XD).
Ok so I've been curious if you Suaske and Itatchi could just swap eyes and have EMS, because I was thinking that Suaske could just give Sadara his old eyes and she'd have EMS from her dad.
Sarada would have to unlock MS first, and I don't think that's the direction they want to go with this generation of characters in terms of themes. More kinslaying and hatred is kinda a step backwards with regards to the cycle of hatred and all.
@Bxnkai nope he only has MS, EMS Is the eternal one and if you Remember while he was dying he almost can't see, that doesn't happen if you have EMS or Hashirama cells like Obito (who spams his sharingan without any real consequence)
Hey Nick! Ive recently discovered your channel and have been watching your videos non stop for the past few weeks and this.....THIS VID has got to be one of the best vids/what ifs ive seen. the way you reimagine naruto events is unmatched and im so happy to have discovered you!
At around 11:00 not only would naruto and sauske not be knocked out because they didn’t fight orochimaru but the sound also wouldn’t have gone to fight them because the only reason they went after them was because of sauske
Other potentials for Itachi: Kurenai: She is a little bit older than Anko but is a lot hotter and already a good mom. She also had the balls to stand up to Itachi and try and use genjustu on him. Yugao Uzuki: She was an Anbu captain so she probably would easily understand what Itachi did and is a powerful shinobi in her own right. Can't remember if she survived is the only issue. If she did she would be about Anko's age. Shizune: She was a powerful medical ninja and still within age range I'm shooting for. My pick though is Ayame from Ichiraku Ramen. She is the youngest on the list and closest to his age, she is good looking and nice, and she is more useful than part 1 Sakura.
I was thinking Guren since her and Itachi are the same age in Shippuden, even though she was just a filler character. Imagine an Uchiha with Crystal Style Abilities!
I love this video, it would have been an amazing version of the show. I only have to say I feel like the separation of Naruto and Sasuke symbolizes Indra and Ashuras separate journeys.
Maybe all those tests on shinobi in deplorable ways to them and their chakra, Orichimaru accidentally helped cultivate further this impossibly rare disease. He was immune, like nearly everyone. But using his chakra near those two who (plot armor) were susceptible, ended up with it. Love your vids, make me wonder.
My head cannon about chakra disease is that it's a birth defect in the chakra system. Being born with it is just a matter of bad luck, but it's not fatal for most people. It would be the equivalent to one of us having a defective organ and over exerting it causes cumulative damage to it and the rest of our body. In non-ninjas, they would never even realize they have it. In regular ninja, the worst it would get is pain and decreased fighting ability. But because these two were so strong, it killed them.
I can explain Anko and Itachi right here Anko: heard you beat my sensei Itachi: I beat a lot of people Anko: Yes but you beat the immortal Orochimaru and he’s still alive wanna help me finish him? Basically they hunt him down and have Naruto/Hinata like moments together and embrace each other over his lifeless corpse in the end. There it’s done.
I love this version of this story. I think you should do Shisui and Konan next. Hell even turn it into your own series. "What if blank character never died?"
You know what's crazy? Itachi was in puberty when he joined the Akatsuki, so imagine him going, "Konichiwa, Uchiha ItaCHi desu" like he had a voice crack
I've lurked on a few of your vids, but you honestly get ALL MY RESPECT, for ignoring that evil Sasuke nonsense and having Might Guy kill Madara! This is probably my favorite Naruto hypothetical video!
He wouldnt had killed them, without the disease. Because, without it, he had become Orochimaru's body. So, he wouldnt had fighted them (and maybe, Orochimaru had beated Sarutobi without the lose of his arms, like, they stated). But yes. Gaara would be dead (or heavy injured), hadnt the disease killed Kimimaru first
No need for Sage Mode to get stronger than Madara. It's enough if he can get an EMS and train and not die. Madara is only stronger than Itachi, because he's 5x older than him with 5x more training and a superior eye. Itachi is much more intelligent and more talented than Madara, so if he lives and trains and wants to get stronger, he would have surpassed Madara eventually, 100%.
"They're already dead" aaaan IM THE ONE WHO KLLED THEM, Kakashi is more like itachi than Sasuke could ever be, the irony. Kash really is super perfect to teach Sasuke everything in life
That would've been terrifying if Orochimaru got Kimimaro as a vessel. Two things I've wondered in my own what ifs is. What if Shino was in the Sasuke retrieval arc? He's super underrated especially in part 1 of Naruto and he never lost a single fight And what if Kimimaro or Haku survived and joined the Akatsuki. I feel like they had massive potential if they survived and honned their skills
Shino was out for a mission in the Sasuke retrieval (lol, this didn't went well) arc for the same reason Gai was out for a mission when Pain attacked Konoha.
@@theforgotton_mle3903 he was the only one that we really didn't see get a proper fight with someone besides Kankuro and the sound guy in the tournament (forgot his name) I wonder who Shino could've fought if he went in the Sasuke retrieval arc
@@lordhades598 You don't get it do you? They didn't got him cause he would one-shot Kimimaro (I won't even talk about the other idiots). The same way Gai would open the 7th gate and one-shot Pain.
Itachi ending up with sakura would make more sense than her ending up with sasuke tbh. She'd still get to be with an Uchiha who styles on everybody but who actually has the emotional capacity to love her back. Also doesn't have as long of a history of attempting to murder her.
If Sasuke never got the Curse Mark are you assuming that Orochimaru never attacked them? If so then both Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't be out and it would just be Team 7 vs the Sound shinobi with maybe Lee jumping in if Sakura was having trouble. If they did fight Orochimaru but Sasuke didn't get the Curse Mark then Sasuke would still be up for that whole fight. It doesn't matter in the long run but just curious. I also can't think of anyone better than Anko. If not her then probably some random villager or some woman that works in the Hokage's office so they interact enough for something to start. I also imagine that as the eldest Uchiha Itachi would feel a responsibility to have children so even if he isn't ready to love if a nice enough girl confesses to him he would probably accept.
I think chakra disease may be caused by constantly using up too much chakra or straining yourself. Essentially everytime you run low on chakra and push yourself too much you put yourself essentially at deaths door the more you do that the higher the risk of actual death similiar to a heart attack. To put it simply i see chakra disease develops over time when you push yourself too hard too often. If i had to guess chakra generation and recovery slows down with age meaning that the older you become the weaker your chakra reserves get capacity aswell as how long it takes to get that chakra back after a fight.
I am curious on how Itachi being present would affect the story after Shippuden (some of the novels and Boruto), especially on how it would affect Sarada's growth. Would Itachi accompany Sasuke on his research into the Otsatsuki, or would he stay behind in the village, potentially giving Sarada an opportunity for some earlier Sharingan training?
A few years ago I watched a theory video about Itachis disease. The video claimed the disease is called "microscopic polyangitis" (I don't know if that is the right english translation, the video was in German). The evidence from this video would be coughing up blood, major pain in the chest, a weakened body and some more. Just wanted to talk about that and maybe hear some other opinions about this theory Edit: the German name of the disease is "mikroskopische Polyangitis" in case someone wants to look it up
I have a very interesting what if idea: What if Tsunade joined the Akatsuki? It might seem random at first, but what if Orochimaru stayed in the Akatsuki and thus instead of going after Hidan to join the Akatsuki, he tells pain about one of the Sannin who could very easily join the Akatsuki because she could both fight with incredible power and be somewhat immortal. At this point in the timeline, Tsunade is in her worst and has been shown in OG Naruto to listen to Orochimaru and he could tell her that the Akatsuki could bring Dan and Nawaki back. P.S. I think Tsunade would be a perfect partner for Kakuzu or Orochimaru, but I favor Kakuzu because he didn’t have a partner at this point in time, he wouldn’t be able to kill her, and also I would like to know Kakuzu’s reaction to Tsuande being the granddaughter of Hashirama.
@@Stolas9 Or she meets Kakuzu to pay for his debts. They go together to Akatsuki, and in one of Kakuzu's frenzies, he tries to kill Tsunade only to find out she is pretty much unable to die and get along better afterward.
@NCHammer23 Buddy I personally think Koto Amatsukame in both eyes of Shisui works differently, his left eye which was with Itachi casts stronger and unbreakable genjutsu in which eye contact is necessary as we saw Itachi had to bring out the crow from Naruto also it takes 10 years to recharge, on the other hand his right eye which cast genjutsu which is arguably breakable and doesn't need eye contact and can be recharge in 3 days by a non-Uchiha with Hashi's cells, my theory is Shisui's right eye doesn't actually takes 10 years like his left eye, I guess if no-Uchiha with Hashi's cells can charge it in 3 days then why would Shisui, a Pure Blood Uchiha with perfect health take a decade??? It is possible his right eye originally didn't take a decade but maybe few weeks or months... Another difference is when his right eye cast genjutsu, victims like Mifune were unaware that they are under Koto Amatsukame, but in his left eye genjutsu case, Itachi was aware that he is under Koto Amatsukame....
Honestly I would've re written the chunin exam portion I believe without orchimaru's meddling team 7 would have been the third team to finish the forest of death at the latest right behind team kuranai and the sand siblings the fight with the sound ninja would never have happened cause they were on assignment to test sasuke after he got his curse mark but since no curse mark no sound ninja fight in the forest of death they get eliminated in the third round prelims like normal sasuke would witness all of them as opposed to being hospitalized until the finals after that everything goes the same as you said
I'm not sure if I agree with all your takes here but the video is presented in such a fire way, I have to respect it. Your understanding of the world and characters really shines and I'm gonna be honest, I laughed my ass off when you said they could just swap eyes. Definitely glad I found your channel.
I think among all the what-if's I watched this is my favorite. I want to see the better connection from kakashi and Sasuke, the conversation between kakashi and obito, also the interaction of sasuke and naruto as brothers. I personally think that this storyline make much more sense tbh.
This change in story was hard to hear. Because I am a big fan of Itachi and I think he deserved to be Hokage! Hearing what could have been for him is sad but well put. I appreciate the video and all your hard work!!! Hokage Itachi lives!
I FCKIN LOVE THIS MAN. U deserve award for litterally making naruto better anime. Every single theory you make abt how it should have happen in naruto makes way more sense than how it actually went and i love it way more than original lore. THANK U
i feel like more would change from this most would be the way u said but the war could change more for starters itachi perfect susano would body kaguya ez just drunken dreams her he doesnt need to use koto since obito changed in the origanal so itachi would have enough chakra to fight still. but also it would change boruto
While I think there are a ton of problems in this video, the two biggest are: 1. Kabuto speculated that the Konoha invasion may have been a victory had Kimimaro been healthy, but nonetheless we canonically know that Orochimaru would NOT have been in Kimimaro's body yet because he developed his illness during the Kazekage assassination which took place right after Orochimaru took control of a body, and 2. I don't think there's any way they beat Kaguya without DMS Kakashi. Based on Kimimaro being able to dodge a rasenshuriken in the war arc, and the fact that Orochimaru is never defeated by Sasuke and instead can take over Kimimaro, putting him well above where he was in any point of Shippuden (especially if he's able to defeat Hiruzen without losing his arms following Kabuto's speculation of it being a success.) Orochimaru very likely could have been a Pain-tier character with those years being spent productively, with Kimimaro's body, instead of spending that time recovering. This is also all ignoring the fact that the war arc heavily relied on Kabuto's reanimation, which he only pursued after feeling meaningless after Orochimaru's death. Without that, we don't even get Madara, and there is no Kaguya either. Also, Zetsu would no doubt continue trying to influence Sasuke, the next incarnation of Indra. I understand why you made the video the way you did (railroading the story to follow the same path with minor tweaks in how they got there) but I think you can do better.
DMS kakashi was just a fan services and it wasn't even that much powerful. Either way he said kaguya fight will end up the same way that it originally ended. Means obito would still sacrifice himself and lend kakashi his eye's for a sec. And your other point was the same. Simply you didn't understand what he said....
@@xzil2167 You didn't understand. This is a what-if in a world where the chakra illness didn't exist. In that world, Orochimaru objectively would not have been in Kimimaro's body prior to invading Konoha. Any justification you try to make is simply incorrect because the illness was not a factor in him not taking his body prior to invading Konoha. Shortly before Konoha Crush, Kimimaro as part of the Sound Five was part of the mission in Orochimaru obtaining a body he switched to, and then they assassinated the Kazekage to set Konoha Crush into motion. Kimimaro fell ill during this assassination and was sent back to the Sound village. This wasn't something he suffered from the whole time - if he was, Orochimaru never would have cared about him anyway. I like his content generally and I understand that you want to defend him because you think he's really knowledgeable so the random commentor must be wrong, however he did make a mistake. The only speculative part was whether or not Orochimaru would have lost his arms or whether or not Konoha would survive. This plotline still raises all of the issues of Kabuto not playing his role in the war arc. Orochimaru had no reason to die without Sasuke absorbing him and Itachi removing him from that. Without his absence, we never get sage Kabuto playing the chess master and we never get Madara in the war arc.
@@catalyst429 I do agree that Obitos ms is one of the strongest ms in the show but in the last fight I don't think it did something that was game changing. The only thing it did was throw some kamui-shuriken and that wasn't even that fast. I don't think that was even necessary. The only thing it was needed for was to protect sakura.
@@xzil2167 I'm not making any statements as to the exact contribution in that situation I'm just saying in general that perfect Susano DMS kamui Kakashi is objectively one of the strongest characters in the entire series for that short amount of time
when ur transition from content to asking ppl to llike and sub is clean af :) keep it up manzzz luv ur content so much i could watch these forever no cap
Ill be honest i did not expect you to like perfectly pull off this what if theory but you legit thought of pretty much everything and how to bring closure to alot of ongoing animosity in the naruto universe I especially liked Itachi becoming Hokage because i always thought he was stupid strong but just never really given a good run to prove his full extent just a battle he purposely lost while being extremely sick. I think it would be perfect if itachi became the first Uchiha hokage because as you said it wouldve brought closure to the uchiha(even if they were all dead) I think it wouldve been a super symbolic moment for the Naruto universe and just as a spectator of the show!!
Itachi and Anko 😂, I think it could work. Could you imagine. I really liked this video. There is a story that I would absolutely love to hear about though. What if the hokage trusted Fugaku during Naruto’s birth. I dream about a world where this happened.
Itachi basically was the Shadow Hokage and you could make a case for calling him the true 5th Hokage. During a lot of Hiruzen's second term and for most of Tsunade's term, he was actively doing a lot behind the scenes to protect the Leaf and always had the safety of the village a the forefront of his mind. Onoki said it doesn't matter who undid the Reanimation Jutsu because that person is now a hero who has saved the Shinobi World, that's just typical Itachi for you. If you ask me he would've easily been a legitimate candidate for the 5th Hokage had the Uchiha Massacre not gone down the way it did, and in my opinion, I consider him to be the true 5th Hokage, or at least the Shadow Hokage to the 5th Hokage.
Ems Itachi in this timeline you have creaated wouldve been substantialy stronger than you are making him out to be is the only real issue i have with this. Ems is more than just no more blindness, Ems took Sasuke from 5 kage summit sasuke who vaguely struggled against each and wouldve been killed by Ohnoki, to Ems Sasuke that rivals/matches KCM2 Naruto in the war. in this timeline youve establshed Naruto functionally doesnt have much change to his story and thus his power (and maybe contextually might have more having a rival to challenge him all those years in sasuke but that wasnt mentioned) and Kurama is an additives/multiplicative power up on narutos base power. and then we remember that Itachi sstill was in the akatsuki for years and harbored all that hatred from massacring the clan etc etc. Edo tensei itachi is still* weaker than hypothetical alive itachi with chakra diseas. Therefore, a hypothetical prime alive itachi with no disease, massive hatred amp, and now added massive ems amp would arguably stepping on the doorstep to as much power as edo hashirama or between that and alive hashirama in power. . and when you look at edo hashirama having enough power to more or less rival the incomplete ten tails, This hypothetical itachi would arguably be rivaling an incomplete ten tails we got in the war to a hypothetical full power ten tails. not that the distinction makes all that much of a difference in the grand scheme of your theory/story. im just saying you still kinda nerfed him when Itachi, the 4 Hokage, Naruto, and Sasuke wouldve done some massive work in the world you have presented if granted the power they actually should have. Also, Itachi would still be stronger than Sasuke given their progression paths.
Something else that would happen in this timeline during the pain ark is that Irukq would die and naruto would likely have a bigger reaction to that than he did with kakashi, but he still comes back to life at the end so it doesn’t really change anything
That makes no sense even with the changed timeline Orochimaru still finds him and it's not the akatsukis thing to abduct powerful children and training. There thing is taking on already powerful ninja
I mean, there are a few characters around Itachi's age I can think of that he could marry. Anko, Shizune, the ramen guy's daughter (we all know what a great chef Itachi is sooo lol)
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Who was the 3rd person Orochimaru Tried To Summon Against Hiruzen?
Couldn't be Minato Bkuz he was in the Reapers Belly At the Time so Who??? 🤔 Sasuke Sarutobi???
I think the attack on the uchiha eye storage would be way different, in that konoha would send more than itachi + team 7
considering the value of both goals, eliminating the true leader of akatsuki who may or may not be obito, and the retrevial of uchiha eyes to instead be locked in a konoha vault.
most of anbu would be sent as well
Would you mind making a video on "What if Kakashi adopted Naruto and Sasuke?"
this man needs an infinite round of applause for all his dedication
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Can't tell if you're referring to NC or Itachi. I'm going to go with Itachi.
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@@jackhall290 nc .itacheat is a foool
He is responsible for the death of MANY loved ones!
I literally can’t fall asleep without a 30 min video of you diving into deep Naruto lore anymore, your channel is so fire
Happy I can help you sleep!
hahaha that's golden💫
i feel you sm lol
@@NCHammer23 I think that’s a insult that comment is confusing asf
@@akainu9367 u cappin my guy this channel is fire af NC does sm work and you can tell sm effort goes into the videos his lore is super complete and I learn sm from them
This isi legit a way better version of your "How Naruto Should've Ended" video. I love the entire concept around this and how it plays out. It makes the show end on a much happier note, without preventing the birth of everyone's kids either in Boruto. Def my fave video you've made so far dude!
no way we already have enough of the Uchiha
@@joeygula581 tobirama?
@@joeygula581HEY YALL, YALL FORGOT TO SEAL TOBIRAMA
We already see enough blonde hair ninjas
The Chakra disease is so weird because I always assumed much more valid illnesses that killed them
I always imagined Kimimaro's ability was slowly killing him. He could heal any injuries, which helps with constant damage from bone abilities, but it wasn't regeneration. He was just _healing_ injuries, leaving him with a bunch of scar tissue, both internally and externally.
And I always assumed Itachi was suffering from the physical manifestations of his grief and guilt for killing his clan.
Kimimaru's disease could be something much more mundane too: chronic anemia. Your body needs bone marrow to make blood, and Kimimaru constantly used his in combat. His extensive training and Orochimaru's modifications supercharged that ability, and now every time he fights he needs months to recover.
This way Orochimaru would have wanted him around as a glass cannon, but his body would be way too frail to be a proper host.
As for Itachi, i would give him the old reliable "unnamed heard condition" or say that his extensive usage of sharingan as a child and MS as a teen fucked up his brain chemistry, giving him random seizures and insomnia punctuated by faintings.
Itachi's "Chalkra Disease" was fake he was being poisoned by sasori. If that wasn't the case the and itachi returned to the leaf after completing his mission and became hokage, the leaf village would of probably overthrown their fuedal lord and been the most prosperous village in the land because itachi way smarter than Naruto and Naruto would be of doing more sage training to grow stronger to become hokage, and Kiba wouldnt become hokage because Naruto would have become hokage later in life and Kiba would of passed before he had the chance
@@DumbbestEarthling Itachi was not killed by Sasori, that has NEVER been hinted at or disclosed.
If Itachi never died I’m pretty sure he’d be depressed to take a side character role in Boruto
You assume he'd survive the war arc.
amazing pfp, rip my mans tb.
No Bro, itachi is dying in the War Arc, or the Pain fight. They still have to kill him before the war arc, he would get revived by Kabuto and he would still go undo reanimation.
@TheLatiosnlatias02 actually no Kishimoto never helped write Boruto Series or character he only came in to work on the (Baryon Mode Arc) he didnt touch any other part of the Boruto Series his old Personal Team Of Writers are the ones that made Boruto Series and Character of Boruto his writers claimed he worked together with them on the full series to make it so they could hold the Naruto fans in check and make it nearly impossible to hate them as hating them would also mean hating Kishimoto whom saved both Naruto and Kurama from being killed off together at the same time by the writers to help Boruto bc he was failing as MC bc he sucks massive grody elephant dick.
@@CoffeeandCharacter bad writing just shh cause if he had to die and who was gone be smart enough to kill him but hisself before the war arc
I think Itachi's disease was Tuberculosis:
He was coughing up blood and by the end, he was in very bad shape. It was shown several times that he had chest pains, and his data sheet shows that his weight is abnormally low (he probably lost weight after he got sick, one of the symptoms of TB is loss of appetite and weight loss).
Kisame worried several times that he would catch a cold, also one of the symptoms of TB is that the patient often gets cold and falls to bed easily, this would explain the worry quite well. In addition, TB is an infectious disease that was very common for a long time, and in the world of Naruto it is also hinted that Itachi is not the only one affected (e.g. Sai's adopted brother was also weak and coughed up blood before his death, so there is a good chance that he suffered from the same disease, although he did not we got so many hints that this is the problem)
It's a tamer version of TB if it's tb. Actual TB isn't just infectious, it's highly infectious. A lot more people would have been suffering from it in that world I think. There'd be entire pandemics as in this world TB kills someone every 20 seconds. In 2022 1.3 million people passed from TB and it's a lot more controlled now days than what it was in the past. At any rate though you are right that the chakra illness is some kind of pulmonary disease that's attacking Itachi's lungs.
This man doesnt write scripts yet his videos are soo concise and amazing its crazy been here since the TikToks.
Love the idea, the one part I wanted to hear talked about is what would happen after the fight between Naruto and Sasuke. Would Naruto still end up travelling with Jiraya if trying to retrieve Sasuke was no longer his goal?
Yes cause the main reason Jiraiya ask Naruto to come with him is to prepare him for the fight with the Akatsuki members.
@@X25-m7k Appreciate that, has been a while since I revisited that!
@@X25-m7k i mean yes but no cause nartuo only went because Jiraya promised him to help get sasuke back so without that there's little chance naruto would would agree to the the trip in the first place
I think tobirama will come back from the grave when he hears a uchiha became hokage.
@@user-nz7hk1xy9o naruto still if kinda sasukes rival right? if not i think they could still convince him to do it
I just want you to see your version of Naruto at this point.
I know changing a story in hindsight is waaay easier than making it up but I like the Ideas you threw in over your last videos more than what happened tbh .
I would also love to see "The perfect Naruto timeline" video
These what if scenarios make me wish the story actually panned out the new way, every time I love them all!
So happy to see someone else agreeing that Guy should've wasted Madara. There was literally no reason for him not to
Bad narrative, boring, jinchurikis have been shown to have amazing regeneration.
Why is Madara dying to Guy something that’s good exactly?
Edit: they barely even fight in the manga lmao, it’s 3 attacks
@@aetherialbeing4223 All terrible reasons that don't hold up. The lore behind the 8 gates is just as extensive as your bad "jinchuriki" strawman. The 10 tails jinchuriki basically gets killed by it if it weren't for Hashiramas cells, yet you still downplay it was if it was nothing. The ensuing fight between Naruto and Sasuke is no different, it's basically 3 attacks.
@@ThundacokSoulPuncher love how you haven’t actually debunked them and how is the Jinchuriki point a straw man exactly? You stated there was no reason for him not to, I gave reasons.
I don’t really know why you’re mentioning Hashirama Cells, if anything that just backs my point more since those cells further back Madara surviving being good.
Note how I never said Naruto or Sasuke should have killed him as well or that the fight between them and Madara was good, nice strawman lmfao
@@aetherialbeing4223 They were instantly debunked because they're terrible arguments. Hashirama cells only affect regeneration, where as night guy should've instantly vaporized Madara. You calling 8 gates "3 attacks" is completely overshadowed by Madara admitting that Guy is the strongest he's ever fought. And the way the story direction went it would've made no difference to having madara killed by guy. As long as the tsukuyomi was still cast. Make some better arguments before you get embarrassed
@@ThundacokSoulPuncher you haven’t actually debunked them though. Still waiting on the explanation for the straw man btw
Why should it have vaporised him completely?
He’s the strongest person he’s fought, doesn’t mean he’s beating 10 tails Madara lmfao
Who would cast the Tsukuyomi if Guy beat Madara?
Being an arse doesn’t make your stance better btw, just saying
I love these “what if’s”. Another fire video in the books for NCHammer
Most villain in Naruto: We were defeated by the power of friendship that the main character has, what about you two?
Itachi and Kimimaro: We lost the fight because we were killed by Ninja Diseases
Thing is, Itachi’s felt treatable or even curable if…he didn’t have an (understandable) survivor’s guilt and he basically wanted to die and was only really sticking around to keep his eyes intact for Sasuke, and y’know, if missing nin could have access to healthcare -oooor if he wasn’t ever manipulated into slaughtering his family and culture by Dear Old Danz. And never became a missing nin in the first place.-
Kimimaro’s on the other hand was outright bone cancer that his clan was prone to ‘cause of the whole “grow extra bones and pull them out for funzies” thing going on. Which, he did have access to a skilled med nin who would’ve been pretty invested in…well not exactly saving him, but at least preserving his body. Maybe he would’ve stood a chance with Tsunade, Shizune, or Sakura in charge of his care vs Kabuto (who didn’t care about ethics and easily could’ve made things worse because, y’know, human experimentation and What Are Ethics.) But, his was pretty much inevitable and killed relatives if they didn’t die in battle instead
I mean pretty much everyone in Fairy Tail was defeated by the power of friendship lol.
Orochimaru?
@@anonymousfellow8879 when it comes to itachi I agree he might have been treatable if I'm going to hazard a guess it was pneumonia I believe kisame or obito tell sasuke that itachi had been on medication for years(might have been shorter time frame but I remember drugs being brought up) and he just stopped taking it recently which is why he they knew he was getting ready for his final fight with sasuke
@theforgotton_ MLE It was special ninja medicine that was said to be very very rare and able to cure all diseases. It only made his disease tolerable tho.
Maybe Tsunade somehow gets the information about Itachi and is in a position to help him. She cures the disease. Itachi asks to keep the secret from everyone else. The healer and the killer trade philosophies on doing what for the village. They are the light and shadow of Konoha.
I would like a storyline unfolding in that Tsunade seems to have much information on the Akatsuki. This makes tension grow with the village hidden in the Mist.
This way the story is more dynamic than just a fight vs the Edo Tensei.
35:18 Itachi and Anko makes a lot of sense. More or less in the sense they balance eachother out. Both have beef with Orochimaru. But they are opposites in Anko is more on the cheeky side and Itachi on the calm stoic side. But at the core both are professionals.
Itachi is so beloved that I woke up two minutes ago, saw the thumbnail, and my heart smiled.
Thank you for the fantastic content!!
Thank you for all your wonderful content. I laugh at the Anko call because she ALSO was a fan of the sweet dumplings as was Itachi’s gf.
In this timeline, obito wouldn’t have had his stash of sharingan anymore so he prob wouldn’t have used izanagi on konan and he would have instead just fled the fight to not lose his sharingan…. this means konan would be alive… and i can see itachi and konan together 🤷♂️
yk theyre like 20 years apart right?
@@folktriggels3543 oh 💀💀
@@folktriggels3543 from a quick Google search I came to a 14 year age gap.
@@AkitakeArou that still doesn't look right
Obito would have already one extra eye implanted.
My daughter and I pause naruto to watch a naruto video 🤣😂 it would be cool if tsunade or sakura would do some investigating on these Chakra diseases. I understand its a writing technique to get rid of OP characters. But these Chakra diseases seem to infect really powerful shinobi with unique jutsus. Great content man. These what if videos are awesome and there's so much you can do with them! Good stuff brotha 😀
@TheLatiosnlatias02 i would take all the spin offs for real
Itachi and Mei would’ve been an interesting couple, since she expressed her interest in Sauske, so why not his older brother who would also be a fellow Kage that could give not just her, but also her village the future they’ve wanted. Plus the bonus would be the insanely strong kids they’d open the potential for in Boruto.
This isn’t your romantic harems. Besides that’s around a ten year age gap.
@@papipepino. Well, the age gap isn't something to take big consideration in... After all look at real life... There are a lot of marriage with age gaps that are superior to that... Of course nothing like doubling the youngest age, because that's just love for the money, but a 10 years age gap is not exactly that much
She prob got the clap.
And they both killed many people of their village. They would be the Red Mist couple.
@@papipepino. you think that a 10 year difference between them is a lot? Ten years is nothing compared to the centuries or perhaps even millenia between Kaguya and her human husband.
Wait wait wait, there a discrepancy here. If orochimaru never targeted sasuke then neither him nor naruto would be unconscious from their fight. Meaning it would be team 7 as a whole that would fight against the sound ninja plus who ever rolled up so they could’ve just defended themselves
yea but they would have lost that fight imo. They were still the weakest and youngest team of the Konoha 13 until the 3 round where all 3 of them got trained.
Yeah but the sound ninja only showed up to test Sasuke which now wouldn't happen so this whole event should be skipped.
@@JasonSmith-fr2jy the sound ninja would still have been in the chunin exams to help orochimaru during the crush arc, there is no saying that they didn’t still end up fighting just for different reasons. I.E if they had been written to have different scrolls or something like that.
The sound ninja wouldnt have even showed up as they were ordered to by orochimaru in krder to test sasuke
Actualy the sound ninja would never target team 7 because orochimaru sent them to sauske to see how the curse mark was bonding to sauske but if orochimaru didnt target sauske than nither would the sound ninja
Don’t understand how you don’t have millions of subscribers with how frequent an in depth you are with your videos but “swagkage” uploads once every one or two months an has 1.1mil with less descriptive information an no hypothesis/theory’s you deserve it all man.
it would be so cool to see an alternate storyline where the uchiha massacre never happens
Itachi would never find another woman to love. I can empathize with his situation too well. It doesn't matter how many years pass when you are responsible for the death of a loved one. I thing this is the right answer for your question.
He is responsible for the death of MANY loved ones!
@@notgadot Konoha is responsible for Uchiha massacre
Itachi is Mikoto's son
This fixes most of the problems i have with this series :) well done dude
Guys he finally promoted Sakura treat without describing like “ The crunch just paired with a perfect sweetness”
Aside from Anko the only other character I can kinda see is Karin. Both members of a mostly wiped out clan. But how you cross their paths and such would be hard. With out Sasuke going to Orochimaru getting the rest of taka out there is a bit difficult. And not sure who would refill Tsunades chakra during the war arc but I guess you could have them meet and start a connection while Orochimaru was in a team with him. IT would also arugably change the most common clan in the head of Konoha if they married before he became hokage. Given that The first, fourth, fith, in this case sixth, and seventh hokage are either dirrectly married to or actually part Uzumaki with Tsunade being at least 25%. Which would not just finally put a uchiha in power, but remove the Senju as the biggest clan of influence to some extent.
The Hyuga are the largest clan of influence. The Senju pretty much disappeared. The average hyuga over all are above the average Uchiha. It isn't until they evolve the sharigan that they become different beast all together while just having the bakugan makes you around jonin level.
@@artypyrec4186 people struggle with accepting that
@@artypyrec4186 True the Hyuga on average seem to be higher than the Uchiha. But my point was more how tied the Uzumaki actually are. Mito Uzumaki, Wife of the first hokage sister in law to the second, who first sealed Kurama and become his Jinchūriki. Skip the Third. Fourth Kushina Uzumaki, wife of the fourth second Jinchūriki. Fifth Hokage, grandaugter of Mito, legendary sanin, No direct family Ties with the sixth. Seventh Hokage Naruto Uzumaki, Third Jinchūriki for Kurama...the list goes on.
My idea was more if Itachi was to be the sixth hokage instead. Having him marry Karin Uzumaki would also kinda make sense with this trend. Also it would give the clans of the two main characters more than a single vector to restore their clan. Literally having blood lines linked to both Indra and and Asura together into a single family for the first time since the sage of six paths.
what if… hear me out… konan? because she may still be alive in this timeline since obito couldn’t have used izanagi in the fight against her because he would lose his sharingan and he wouldn’t have the stash of extra sharingans (bc itachi and sasuke raided his hideout in this timeline). so obito prob would have just fled the fight against her. so konan would still be alive.
@@aim_48x95 Possibly. I think the issue is more she is like 15 years his senior and I personally got the I love Nagato vibes off her.
I unironically love Anko and Itachi, it's a really solid pairing, but I also really like Itachi and Kurenai.
Itachi and Kurenai is an excellent idea! They both control their strong emotions with intense practicality, and both lost the person they loved first. They would also make powerful genjustu babies XD I jest, but that would probably be Itachi's main motivation for giving love a second chance. His "childhood" was defined by conflicting loyalties to the Uchiha and the Leaf, culminating in him almost ending the Uchiha bloodline with his own hands. Now that the war is over and he didn't have to die, I think he would consider it his duty to have children. I was thinking he would probably want to find somebody in a similar position, (like Karin), who he could like and respect and see himself co-parenting with, (not like Karin XD).
Remember that kurenai and kakashi are around the same age an kakashi is older than itachi Soo anko would be the better choice
Itachi would never have kids
@@finna1002why not he did a decent job with sausagek
Naw kurenai probably never would have wanted to move on. And isn't kurenai older then anko and Itachi?
Ok so I've been curious if you Suaske and Itatchi could just swap eyes and have EMS, because I was thinking that Suaske could just give Sadara his old eyes and she'd have EMS from her dad.
This is why people don’t think it works like that because why wouldn’t they do it
@@NCHammer23 I think kishimoto doesn’t want sarada to be too strong. Also she would need to have MS already right?
i think the one your swapping with might have to have MS aswell
Sarada would have to unlock MS first, and I don't think that's the direction they want to go with this generation of characters in terms of themes. More kinslaying and hatred is kinda a step backwards with regards to the cycle of hatred and all.
“19-20 when the war arc ended” to be World Leader is CRAZY when you think about that in real world terms 😂😂
Love this video tbh
Im curious what Itachi would have done if Sasuke would have died early on (like if the curse mark killed him in the chunin exams)
He would have probably unlocked EMS with eithet Sasuke or Fugaku's eyes and found a way to cure his desease just to kill Danzo ahahah
To be honest he probably would’ve just sealed Orochimaru with his susannoo if he somehow didn’t manage to outright kill him
@Bxnkai nope he only has MS, EMS Is the eternal one and if you Remember while he was dying he almost can't see, that doesn't happen if you have EMS or Hashirama cells like Obito (who spams his sharingan without any real consequence)
Orochimaru dies early
Kisamai n itachi was the beat dou . They were actually friends, their team work and moral literally stood side by side
The fanfiction that no one asked for but needed.
Hey Nick! Ive recently discovered your channel and have been watching your videos non stop for the past few weeks and this.....THIS VID has got to be one of the best vids/what ifs ive seen. the way you reimagine naruto events is unmatched and im so happy to have discovered you!
I swear your videos are so good to watch they always cheer me up when I'm down. Keep it up bro ❤🐏
Same bro
At around 11:00 not only would naruto and sauske not be knocked out because they didn’t fight orochimaru but the sound also wouldn’t have gone to fight them because the only reason they went after them was because of sauske
Other potentials for Itachi:
Kurenai: She is a little bit older than Anko but is a lot hotter and already a good mom. She also had the balls to stand up to Itachi and try and use genjustu on him.
Yugao Uzuki: She was an Anbu captain so she probably would easily understand what Itachi did and is a powerful shinobi in her own right. Can't remember if she survived is the only issue. If she did she would be about Anko's age.
Shizune: She was a powerful medical ninja and still within age range I'm shooting for.
My pick though is Ayame from Ichiraku Ramen. She is the youngest on the list and closest to his age, she is good looking and nice, and she is more useful than part 1 Sakura.
The good answer
Ah yes naruto 👍 approves
I was also thinking Ayame would be a good fit for Itachi!
I was thinking Guren since her and Itachi are the same age in Shippuden, even though she was just a filler character.
Imagine an Uchiha with Crystal Style Abilities!
KIMIMARU DIED AT 15!!!!!!?
Okay he just got way fucking scarier in my brain! like i thought the dude was in his mid twenties. man looked fully grown
I love this video, it would have been an amazing version of the show.
I only have to say I feel like the separation of Naruto and Sasuke symbolizes Indra and Ashuras separate journeys.
Love this AU timeline man...why couldn't this have been a thing, lol. Keep up the good work!
Maybe all those tests on shinobi in deplorable ways to them and their chakra, Orichimaru accidentally helped cultivate further this impossibly rare disease. He was immune, like nearly everyone. But using his chakra near those two who (plot armor) were susceptible, ended up with it. Love your vids, make me wonder.
My head cannon about chakra disease is that it's a birth defect in the chakra system. Being born with it is just a matter of bad luck, but it's not fatal for most people. It would be the equivalent to one of us having a defective organ and over exerting it causes cumulative damage to it and the rest of our body. In non-ninjas, they would never even realize they have it. In regular ninja, the worst it would get is pain and decreased fighting ability. But because these two were so strong, it killed them.
I think itachi would've been the first uchia hokage. He had the will of fire
I can explain Anko and Itachi right here
Anko: heard you beat my sensei
Itachi: I beat a lot of people
Anko: Yes but you beat the immortal Orochimaru and he’s still alive wanna help me finish him?
Basically they hunt him down and have Naruto/Hinata like moments together and embrace each other over his lifeless corpse in the end. There it’s done.
This was the only missing piece and I'm here for it
I love this version of this story. I think you should do Shisui and Konan next. Hell even turn it into your own series. "What if blank character never died?"
@TheLatiosnlatias02 yea!
You know what's crazy? Itachi was in puberty when he joined the Akatsuki, so imagine him going, "Konichiwa, Uchiha ItaCHi desu" like he had a voice crack
Sasuke having Kakashi teach him to fight Itachi would be such a cool story
2:15 Nick needs another youtube channel named Hammer's critique where he critiques food
Here we go! Itachi is my favourite character so I’m really excited!
Same here! When I first discovered Itachis back story and the truth behind the massacre, it immediately solidified Itachi as my favorite!
@@levirichards6823 Absolute same here, ITACHI SQUAD 👨👩👧👨👩👧💀💀💀
I've lurked on a few of your vids, but you honestly get ALL MY RESPECT, for ignoring that evil Sasuke nonsense and having Might Guy kill Madara! This is probably my favorite Naruto hypothetical video!
If Chakra disease never existed then Kimimaro would've killed Gaara and Rock Lee.
He almost did too the disease seem to caught up to him at just the right time for gaara and lee to survive
He wouldnt had killed them, without the disease.
Because, without it, he had become Orochimaru's body. So, he wouldnt had fighted them (and maybe, Orochimaru had beated Sarutobi without the lose of his arms, like, they stated).
But yes. Gaara would be dead (or heavy injured), hadnt the disease killed Kimimaru first
Then that would lead to Kinimaro vs Kakashi OR Kinimaro catching up to Naruto vs Sasuke
Tell me you didn't watch the video before commenting without telling me you didn't watch the video before commenting
Rock Lee wasn't suppose to live past the sasuke retrieval ark
One of the best alternate timeline fanfics I have ever seen. More than anyone, Itachi truly deserves that mantle.
Vid starts at 4:00
Bruh if itachi and or shisui were allowed to live, the 4th great ninja war would’ve been a cake walk and no one can say otherwise 😤
Do you think if Itachi reach more higher learned Sage Mode and even become more stronger than Madara Uchiha
No need for Sage Mode to get stronger than Madara. It's enough if he can get an EMS and train and not die. Madara is only stronger than Itachi, because he's 5x older than him with 5x more training and a superior eye. Itachi is much more intelligent and more talented than Madara, so if he lives and trains and wants to get stronger, he would have surpassed Madara eventually, 100%.
@@Stolas9 OK just saying because an Uchiha learning Sage Mode would be great
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 Crow/Raven Sage Mode Itachi would be dope
"They're already dead" aaaan IM THE ONE WHO KLLED THEM, Kakashi is more like itachi than Sasuke could ever be, the irony.
Kash really is super perfect to teach Sasuke everything in life
lets just say itachi was stronger than madara if he lived just like wyndell said
Wow super cool alternative story! Fantastic job my dude I loved it!
Hey I forgor I watched this already
That would've been terrifying if Orochimaru got Kimimaro as a vessel.
Two things I've wondered in my own what ifs is.
What if Shino was in the Sasuke retrieval arc? He's super underrated especially in part 1 of Naruto and he never lost a single fight
And what if Kimimaro or Haku survived and joined the Akatsuki. I feel like they had massive potential if they survived and honned their skills
I love how the shino plot point is always brought up like years later poor guy took it personally lol
Shino was out for a mission in the Sasuke retrieval (lol, this didn't went well) arc for the same reason Gai was out for a mission when Pain attacked Konoha.
@@theforgotton_mle3903 he was the only one that we really didn't see get a proper fight with someone besides Kankuro and the sound guy in the tournament (forgot his name) I wonder who Shino could've fought if he went in the Sasuke retrieval arc
@@godnyx117 seems they forgot about him. I mean all the other male characters went besides him
@@lordhades598 You don't get it do you? They didn't got him cause he would one-shot Kimimaro (I won't even talk about the other idiots). The same way Gai would open the 7th gate and one-shot Pain.
Itachi ending up with sakura would make more sense than her ending up with sasuke tbh. She'd still get to be with an Uchiha who styles on everybody but who actually has the emotional capacity to love her back. Also doesn't have as long of a history of attempting to murder her.
I always wished Karin met Itachi
Itachi can marry kiba's sister
Your videos relight the almost childish love and joy of naruto for me, thank you
If Sasuke never got the Curse Mark are you assuming that Orochimaru never attacked them? If so then both Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't be out and it would just be Team 7 vs the Sound shinobi with maybe Lee jumping in if Sakura was having trouble. If they did fight Orochimaru but Sasuke didn't get the Curse Mark then Sasuke would still be up for that whole fight.
It doesn't matter in the long run but just curious.
I also can't think of anyone better than Anko. If not her then probably some random villager or some woman that works in the Hokage's office so they interact enough for something to start. I also imagine that as the eldest Uchiha Itachi would feel a responsibility to have children so even if he isn't ready to love if a nice enough girl confesses to him he would probably accept.
"Naruto gained this power with hard work" *Loses in base and needs Djinn Cloak*
I think chakra disease may be caused by constantly using up too much chakra or straining yourself. Essentially everytime you run low on chakra and push yourself too much you put yourself essentially at deaths door the more you do that the higher the risk of actual death similiar to a heart attack. To put it simply i see chakra disease develops over time when you push yourself too hard too often. If i had to guess chakra generation and recovery slows down with age meaning that the older you become the weaker your chakra reserves get capacity aswell as how long it takes to get that chakra back after a fight.
i wouldve loved to see this theory animated as a spin off
I am curious on how Itachi being present would affect the story after Shippuden (some of the novels and Boruto), especially on how it would affect Sarada's growth. Would Itachi accompany Sasuke on his research into the Otsatsuki, or would he stay behind in the village, potentially giving Sarada an opportunity for some earlier Sharingan training?
A few years ago I watched a theory video about Itachis disease. The video claimed the disease is called "microscopic polyangitis" (I don't know if that is the right english translation, the video was in German). The evidence from this video would be coughing up blood, major pain in the chest, a weakened body and some more.
Just wanted to talk about that and maybe hear some other opinions about this theory
Edit: the German name of the disease is "mikroskopische Polyangitis" in case someone wants to look it up
I have a very interesting what if idea: What if Tsunade joined the Akatsuki?
It might seem random at first, but what if Orochimaru stayed in the Akatsuki and thus instead of going after Hidan to join the Akatsuki, he tells pain about one of the Sannin who could very easily join the Akatsuki because she could both fight with incredible power and be somewhat immortal. At this point in the timeline, Tsunade is in her worst and has been shown in OG Naruto to listen to Orochimaru and he could tell her that the Akatsuki could bring Dan and Nawaki back.
P.S. I think Tsunade would be a perfect partner for Kakuzu or Orochimaru, but I favor Kakuzu because he didn’t have a partner at this point in time, he wouldn’t be able to kill her, and also I would like to know Kakuzu’s reaction to Tsuande being the granddaughter of Hashirama.
Or maybe if she joins the Akatsuki, she would be with Orochimaru. Cool idea tho!
@@Stolas9 Or she meets Kakuzu to pay for his debts. They go together to Akatsuki, and in one of Kakuzu's frenzies, he tries to kill Tsunade only to find out she is pretty much unable to die and get along better afterward.
@NCHammer23 Buddy I personally think Koto Amatsukame in both eyes of Shisui works differently, his left eye which was with Itachi casts stronger and unbreakable genjutsu in which eye contact is necessary as we saw Itachi had to bring out the crow from Naruto also it takes 10 years to recharge, on the other hand his right eye which cast genjutsu which is arguably breakable and doesn't need eye contact and can be recharge in 3 days by a non-Uchiha with Hashi's cells, my theory is Shisui's right eye doesn't actually takes 10 years like his left eye, I guess if no-Uchiha with Hashi's cells can charge it in 3 days then why would Shisui, a Pure Blood Uchiha with perfect health take a decade??? It is possible his right eye originally didn't take a decade but maybe few weeks or months...
Another difference is when his right eye cast genjutsu, victims like Mifune were unaware that they are under Koto Amatsukame, but in his left eye genjutsu case, Itachi was aware that he is under Koto Amatsukame....
Honestly I would've re written the chunin exam portion I believe without orchimaru's meddling team 7 would have been the third team to finish the forest of death at the latest right behind team kuranai and the sand siblings the fight with the sound ninja would never have happened cause they were on assignment to test sasuke after he got his curse mark but since no curse mark no sound ninja fight in the forest of death they get eliminated in the third round prelims like normal sasuke would witness all of them as opposed to being hospitalized until the finals after that everything goes the same as you said
@TheLatiosnlatias02 I mean I dont disagree however I dont know what any of these clans have to do with what I said?
In the story at the point of the forest of death?
If so then no there would be no need at that moment maybe later when they are relevant to the story
@TheLatiosnlatias02 I don't understand the relevance of any of this
I'm not sure if I agree with all your takes here but the video is presented in such a fire way, I have to respect it. Your understanding of the world and characters really shines and I'm gonna be honest, I laughed my ass off when you said they could just swap eyes. Definitely glad I found your channel.
I'm interested in how Itachi caught the disease.
Sameeee
Aren't we all??
Overuse of the sharingan?I think so
Gai seshks with gai mite gui
For plot convenience actually. He would of been too OP if he was healthy.
I think among all the what-if's I watched this is my favorite. I want to see the better connection from kakashi and Sasuke, the conversation between kakashi and obito, also the interaction of sasuke and naruto as brothers.
I personally think that this storyline make much more sense tbh.
Fun fact: Masashi Kishimoto stated that if Itachi had lived, then he would've beaten Madara.
Bs lmao
No he didn’t state that
Total bs Itachi isn't on that level
I think he would yada mirror his ass before stabbing him with za Totsuckondeeznutsablade - rip Madarawdogger
Ithink he meant if Itachi was alive he would have gotten some stupid power buffs like all the uchihas
This change in story was hard to hear. Because I am a big fan of Itachi and I think he deserved to be Hokage! Hearing what could have been for him is sad but well put. I appreciate the video and all your hard work!!! Hokage Itachi lives!
I can imagine the show being called, Itachi. Rather than Naruto.
I FCKIN LOVE THIS MAN. U deserve award for litterally making naruto better anime. Every single theory you make abt how it should have happen in naruto makes way more sense than how it actually went and i love it way more than original lore. THANK U
i feel like more would change from this most would be the way u said but the war could change more for starters itachi perfect susano would body kaguya ez just drunken dreams her he doesnt need to use koto since obito changed in the origanal so itachi would have enough chakra to fight still. but also it would change boruto
Lol Just change your name to itachi fanboy. What a lot of bs
@@basdemanaz ok I will
Wow
He really gave an in detail speech about good food
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While I think there are a ton of problems in this video, the two biggest are: 1. Kabuto speculated that the Konoha invasion may have been a victory had Kimimaro been healthy, but nonetheless we canonically know that Orochimaru would NOT have been in Kimimaro's body yet because he developed his illness during the Kazekage assassination which took place right after Orochimaru took control of a body, and 2. I don't think there's any way they beat Kaguya without DMS Kakashi.
Based on Kimimaro being able to dodge a rasenshuriken in the war arc, and the fact that Orochimaru is never defeated by Sasuke and instead can take over Kimimaro, putting him well above where he was in any point of Shippuden (especially if he's able to defeat Hiruzen without losing his arms following Kabuto's speculation of it being a success.) Orochimaru very likely could have been a Pain-tier character with those years being spent productively, with Kimimaro's body, instead of spending that time recovering. This is also all ignoring the fact that the war arc heavily relied on Kabuto's reanimation, which he only pursued after feeling meaningless after Orochimaru's death. Without that, we don't even get Madara, and there is no Kaguya either. Also, Zetsu would no doubt continue trying to influence Sasuke, the next incarnation of Indra.
I understand why you made the video the way you did (railroading the story to follow the same path with minor tweaks in how they got there) but I think you can do better.
DMS kakashi was just a fan services and it wasn't even that much powerful. Either way he said kaguya fight will end up the same way that it originally ended. Means obito would still sacrifice himself and lend kakashi his eye's for a sec.
And your other point was the same. Simply you didn't understand what he said....
@@xzil2167 DMS Kakashi was definitely one of the most powerful people in the whole show......
@@xzil2167 You didn't understand. This is a what-if in a world where the chakra illness didn't exist. In that world, Orochimaru objectively would not have been in Kimimaro's body prior to invading Konoha. Any justification you try to make is simply incorrect because the illness was not a factor in him not taking his body prior to invading Konoha. Shortly before Konoha Crush, Kimimaro as part of the Sound Five was part of the mission in Orochimaru obtaining a body he switched to, and then they assassinated the Kazekage to set Konoha Crush into motion. Kimimaro fell ill during this assassination and was sent back to the Sound village. This wasn't something he suffered from the whole time - if he was, Orochimaru never would have cared about him anyway.
I like his content generally and I understand that you want to defend him because you think he's really knowledgeable so the random commentor must be wrong, however he did make a mistake. The only speculative part was whether or not Orochimaru would have lost his arms or whether or not Konoha would survive. This plotline still raises all of the issues of Kabuto not playing his role in the war arc. Orochimaru had no reason to die without Sasuke absorbing him and Itachi removing him from that. Without his absence, we never get sage Kabuto playing the chess master and we never get Madara in the war arc.
@@catalyst429 I do agree that Obitos ms is one of the strongest ms in the show but in the last fight I don't think it did something that was game changing. The only thing it did was throw some kamui-shuriken and that wasn't even that fast. I don't think that was even necessary. The only thing it was needed for was to protect sakura.
@@xzil2167 I'm not making any statements as to the exact contribution in that situation I'm just saying in general that perfect Susano DMS kamui Kakashi is objectively one of the strongest characters in the entire series for that short amount of time
when ur transition from content to asking ppl to llike and sub is clean af :)
keep it up manzzz luv ur content so much
i could watch these forever no cap
What if Kimimaro told Orochimaru about his disease before he collapsed?
Imagine Orochimaru taking Kimimaros body just to die to the disease 😂
@@luisrodrigues3217 😹😹
Ill be honest i did not expect you to like perfectly pull off this what if theory but you legit thought of pretty much everything and how to bring closure to alot of ongoing animosity in the naruto universe I especially liked Itachi becoming Hokage because i always thought he was stupid strong but just never really given a good run to prove his full extent just a battle he purposely lost while being extremely sick. I think it would be perfect if itachi became the first Uchiha hokage because as you said it wouldve brought closure to the uchiha(even if they were all dead) I think it wouldve been a super symbolic moment for the Naruto universe and just as a spectator of the show!!
Itachi was like Aizen from Bleach. You won, because I let you win.
Itachi and Anko 😂, I think it could work. Could you imagine.
I really liked this video. There is a story that I would absolutely love to hear about though. What if the hokage trusted Fugaku during Naruto’s birth. I dream about a world where this happened.
Fun fact: Itachi died unbeatable.
😂😂😂
Itachi basically was the Shadow Hokage and you could make a case for calling him the true 5th Hokage. During a lot of Hiruzen's second term and for most of Tsunade's term, he was actively doing a lot behind the scenes to protect the Leaf and always had the safety of the village a the forefront of his mind. Onoki said it doesn't matter who undid the Reanimation Jutsu because that person is now a hero who has saved the Shinobi World, that's just typical Itachi for you. If you ask me he would've easily been a legitimate candidate for the 5th Hokage had the Uchiha Massacre not gone down the way it did, and in my opinion, I consider him to be the true 5th Hokage, or at least the Shadow Hokage to the 5th Hokage.
Ems Itachi in this timeline you have creaated wouldve been substantialy stronger than you are making him out to be is the only real issue i have with this. Ems is more than just no more blindness, Ems took Sasuke from 5 kage summit sasuke who vaguely struggled against each and wouldve been killed by Ohnoki, to Ems Sasuke that rivals/matches KCM2 Naruto in the war.
in this timeline youve establshed Naruto functionally doesnt have much change to his story and thus his power (and maybe contextually might have more having a rival to challenge him all those years in sasuke but that wasnt mentioned) and Kurama is an additives/multiplicative power up on narutos base power.
and then we remember that Itachi sstill was in the akatsuki for years and harbored all that hatred from massacring the clan etc etc. Edo tensei itachi is still* weaker than hypothetical alive itachi with chakra diseas. Therefore, a hypothetical prime alive itachi with no disease, massive hatred amp, and now added massive ems amp would arguably stepping on the doorstep to as much power as edo hashirama or between that and alive hashirama in power. .
and when you look at edo hashirama having enough power to more or less rival the incomplete ten tails, This hypothetical itachi would arguably be rivaling an incomplete ten tails we got in the war to a hypothetical full power ten tails.
not that the distinction makes all that much of a difference in the grand scheme of your theory/story. im just saying you still kinda nerfed him when Itachi, the 4 Hokage, Naruto, and Sasuke wouldve done some massive work in the world you have presented if granted the power they actually should have.
Also, Itachi would still be stronger than Sasuke given their progression paths.
I agree when it comes to Tsunade. She was a great Hokage.
+ I had to wipe a tear when I saw Itachi as Hokage 😔
Sasuke not leaving the village LITERALLY makes the show 10x better
Something else that would happen in this timeline during the pain ark is that Irukq would die and naruto would likely have a bigger reaction to that than he did with kakashi, but he still comes back to life at the end so it doesn’t really change anything
I can imagine Kimimaro being found by the Akatsuki instead of Orochimaru.
I feel like him and sasuke and him would have beef cuz he killed orochimaru
Ignore the 3rd him
That makes no sense even with the changed timeline Orochimaru still finds him and it's not the akatsukis thing to abduct powerful children and training. There thing is taking on already powerful ninja
I mean, there are a few characters around Itachi's age I can think of that he could marry. Anko, Shizune, the ramen guy's daughter (we all know what a great chef Itachi is sooo lol)
I want somebody to write this as a fanfiction so I can read it, because I prefer this plot 😂👆 #justiceforitachi
This is one of the best what ifs on RUclips!! I salute you bro 👏🏻
1st comment no jutsu
i loved this video! i would also love to see a what if orochimaru didn’t exist or something like that
I have an idea for a what if scenario. What if Sasuke didn't have plot armor in the Wave Arc and died from Haku's needles.
If your gonna be talking about plot armour.Naruto should have also died in that scenario
@@dark-winged-angel136 just for clarity, I didn't mention plot armour as an insult