Cars Are Changing
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I've only been a car enthusiast for 11 years now, but in those 11 years I've heard many people complain about new technology in modern cars. Sure, driver assists take away from the raw driving experience, but they also add a new dimension to driving. It's not easy accepting something that's different than what you're used to, but I hope that we can all appreciate the advancements in car technology that we have today.
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Like I've always said, be fun, stay safe, have dirty. Beautiful video as always B&B & G&G!
Couldn't have done it without you Eric! er. Jason?
Engineering Explained love what you said! I am a huge advocate for the stick as well! You inspired me to only buy manual cars.
Right on Bob! I've owned four vehicles and so far they've only been stick! I can see owning an electric car in my future, they're a ton of fun at low speeds and make city driving enjoyable. But I hope to always have a 6-speed in the stables as well!
Yeah I love a manual and the having the skill to drive it properly. But you watch some the DCT (PDK) style transmissions and you begin to understand how they are sooooo good. But is als ohope to keep a manual around just for the fun of it. I get twitchy if I drive an auto for too long. :P
#HaveDirty ;)
Absolutely right, everything in the car world is based on the consumers themselves. Not everyone is a car enthusiast and most will never be. Most people in America that are not car enthusiasts don't want anything to do with a manual transmission, and they miss out on learning this skill that less than 20% of Americans know how to do. It's even more sad when I make friends with international students and they are the ones who recognize immediately when a car is standard and they get excited because it reminds them of home. Americans who have never seen it before just stare in awe at the weird shift pattern and go "Huh? Why do you have to move that thing so much? Why are there three pedals?"
Literally the best comment in the world....
Thanks.
Jared Reyes That comment was totally awesome man. We need to bring back the big giant American cars with V8 power and rear wheel drive and most of them need a manual (especially the 2-door coupes) same for pickup trucks to.
Jared Reyes Yep lazy consumers that won't take the time to learn how to drive a simple manual. It's heartbreaking
Master Chief Why is it lazy to not want learn something that is completely unnecessary? For the average person, there is little to nothing to gain from learning manual other than getting to act snobby and superior on the internet.
What's the most worrying, however, is autonomous cars.
Since its creation, cars have always been about groundbreaking engineering, and driving experience. The driver, and how the driver feels, has always been the roots and the reason of a car’s existence. However in the recent years it has become less and less so. It won’t be long until the driver is completely taken out of the equation. We who love cars and love driving them will become the minority, the outcast, perhaps even the weird ones.
well said. It saddens me when i'm sitting at a red light and I look over and at everyone else and they are all looking at their phones instead of anticipating the moment the light turns green (me driving a 4 cylinder Camry that doesn't even make 200 horsepower I believe is proof you don't have to have a 400 horsepower muscle car to have fun driving). it really makes me fear for the future generations, not just because they may miss out on the experience of driving but what else they will miss out on due to the growing autonomy of everyday things.
I can see they're gonna be flying spaceships, and wondering why we still drive cars.
Spaceships will become the new norm, and it will be hard for us generations to adapt.
Whoa I just went too much into the future there.
i like cars and driving (drifting) and whatnot, but i think cars were created to be a better option than walking/bicycle/horse/pogostick/etc, not "driving experience". . . unless the experience of getting your sweaty, stanky ass off that damn bike/horse/pogostick is the real "driving experience" lol
Sam Kent I don't know why you think motorcycles will never be self driving.
Honda already has a self balancing bike that can literally move with no rider; Admittedly very slow. It's only a matter of time until it can ride perfectly well without a pilot.
Also, very soon they're releasing bikes with automatic adaptive braking - they will brake themselves if they detect an inevitable crash with another vehicle.
So the day is coming..
you guys are really old
HANG ON, did he say at the beginning that it would be easier to modify a 20 years newer kia? i call bulshit
Jack IIE Toohey time for a build series
Gears and Gasoline if only I had the money, it's all going to the evo! WHICH I DONT WORK ON MYSELF BECAUSE ITS MORE COMPLICATED THAN MY 91 MIATA (sorry for caps, making a point that many others are also trying to make)
Gears and Gasoline I've swapped motors on some civics and stuff a couple times, I would NEVER do it myself to anything newer than 2000(ish)
Jack IIE Toohey fr like he needs to be quiet
Gears and Gasoline KEK
You know whats great? When you get a clear cut example of an enthusiast car only enthusiasts would buy.
Take the Evo X for example, has MR and GSR trims. The MR's transmission makes it the faster car overall, but due to the amount of people wanting a manual vehicle the GSR outsold the MR by a landslide. ;)
(Then Mitsu said fuck you to all of us car lovers...) :'c
Xaines that and good luck fixing mr tranny. It sends you back 10k
Yeah, TC-SSTs are expensive as hell to repair (if you can find someone to repair it), hence why MRs arent modded too heavily.
Doesnt mean its unreliable though lol
The exact same thing happened with the Gordan Murray supercar. 300 were built, with both a manual and sequential, and only *TWO* sequentials were sold. Literally over 99% of people wanted manual transmission. I think the car was Europe only though. Lots of people, even today, know how to drive manual, but in USA it's very different for some reason.
Manual transmission > Automatic transmission > press a button, and the car will drive by itself...
R.I.P JDMs of the 90's... I'll always like the RX-7.
Your points are logical (except that one where you said modern cars are easier to modify, they are not).
Since I do like good and logical argumentation, I have to go against myself and be a bit of a jerk right now. I personally understand that objectively, cars get better, the new 911 is faster arround a track than the old 911. But, when it comes to cars, logic gets thrown out of the window for me. I don't see cars in numbers, I don't want to have fast lap times, neither do I want a car with so many safety features that it basically takes over the driving for me. The sensation of driving is slowly fading away, and everybody who drove old generation legends like the M models e36, e39 or e46 and compared them to the new BMWs knows what I'm talking about. Same goes for the older AMGs, they just felt so fucking brutal compared to the new ones. Cars just start to loose that "thing" in my eyes, I can't describe that, but I start to drool when I see a 90s 911 in perfect condition roll by, while the new 911 is nothing special to me. Same goes for BMW, Merc, Audi, Aston, Jaguar, Bentley, Maserati, Ferrari and so on and so forth.
To put it simple, a lot of us enthusiasts don't givea flying fuck about numbers, we do care about the passion, the feel cars give us...
I agree. I drive two cars. One is a 1993 volvo 940 with 223,000 miles and its not even that fast but, man do I enjoy driving it. It feels so comfy and its nice to sometimes drive slow and enjoy the ride. I just restored the car so Im adding new sway bars and suspension. Then my second car is a VW Jetta 2.5 which I like to add parts to as well. But in all I dont care about stupid times or how fast it is. I just like getting my hands dirty and seeing what I come up with :).
Dude I own a manual 120hp ford focus and my father has a 300hp passat cc (pretty rare stuff btw) and honestly I think I like my care more, just because I hear the old diesel reving, I can engine-brake and pass the gears. It doesn't mean the passat isn't fun to drive, it hell is, but that "thing" isn't there...
I wonder if electric cars of the future will have speakers in the faux exhaust ports just for engine rev sounds. Sheesh! Great video!
Manuel transmission must stay. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a driver.
Don't forget the manufacturers who only offer manuals in certain cars like the focus st, fiesta st, and 911r
when Camaros were the old ones is what I miss, they should have never changed
I honestly *REALLY* love the movement of modern cars tbh. I prefer DCT traditional manual because of how fluid it is to use. I like super buttery power steering and traction control because of how easy it makes the process of driving. I like all the computerized component getting integrated into the operation of the car because of how streamlined and enjoyable it makes things. Overall I feel we shouldn't reject quality of life improvements to cars so long as it serves to make the function of motor vehicle operation better.
Honestly just a well said video! Everyone should see this, car enthusiasts and even non-car enthusiasts.
I still believe a lot of enthusiast vehicles would sell better with a manual if it was an option. This is especially true on cars that offer a manual transmission on the base spec, with desirable options not available with one.
I personally ended up ordering a competitor to the Giulia after they removed it from the options list. I'm not driving at 9/10ths 90% of the time I'm in the car and manuals keep me from boring myself to death in the daily commute. I'm hopeful with this next generation of hybrid-lite cars like the next generation Mustang will keep a manual as an option along with the increased performance.
I think the only thing i have to complain about, as i am new into the car would, is electric cars, more specifically Tesla. The idea of being made to follow a monopoly company that doesn't give you choice of what you want to drive, but tells you what you want to drive is terrifying. Self-driving cars are also terrifying. Science has proven again and again that human instinct creates the ability to have an outcome "between 0 and 1" opposed to just 0 or 1. Think about that when your self driving car has to choose where to crash, or even further, has to choose between your life and the life of another...
Fantastic editing and production!
Some of the gripes that I have are touch screens. I want buttons, not sub-menus. Another is electric steering, I like to feel how the tires are griping during winter months. But over all cars are a lot better than ever before. Comfort, handling and most important reliability. Call me an old fart but I'll keep my V8 wile you kids can play with your 4 banger Civics. Great video by the way.
the only crappy thing i see is the advancement of technologies makes working on cars more complicated. things like even sparkplug replacement now require special spec sockets or alot of special dealer only computer work that requires exclusive software
Great video guys! Loved this one a lot.
3:36 this is why we dont drink 3-4 monsters a day
awesome vid ... keep it up and you will be at 500K subs in no time!
I absolutely adore this channel. You guys honor every part of car culture and bring us together in such a nice way!
All the moaning about automatics replacing manuals is just like the moaning that happened about 40 years ago when full synchromesh gearboxes started to become more common. "Real men have to rev match to get it in gear." Can you imagine a modern car without synchromesh? Because I can't...
I don't know, it seems like the better technology gets the more boring cars get. Look at all the awesome Japanese sports cars from the 90s and early 2000s, now look at all the boring cars they make today. It's a shame really.
This was really well done! 👍
I have no complaints about PDK so far.
Such a good video with a great point !
cars were better years ago but the problem is that new cars are safer and more reliable and people have no choice but to buy them.
I still say keep the manual transmission alive. All this automatic stuff coming out is nice but I still like doing the thing with that thing
Absolutely love this video!
Modern cars aren't better than older cars. THAT'S BULLL. MAN.!!!
Waw this is a fantastic video free on thank you
our sons would say older was better when they become our age as well.
Excellent video.
Good video..! But the market looking what the customers buying from the new stuff.. Many people out there buying or restoring old things becouse they preferring these for their own reasons..! I am one of them at least on the car market and NOT becouse the old cars are simplest BUT becouse I think these are prettiest..!
that evo and supra had me busting nuts everywhere great video xd
"Rad friend" lol
Great work guys
A channel that truly deserves a larger audience.
bro keep doing what your doing!
Im not a fan of diver assisted cars or the idea of self driving cars. because it self driving cars are a thing I fear someone will try to outlaw regular older cars. maybe thats a bit far fetched but I can see some dystopian stuff like that happening in 20-30 years.
What type of wheels were on the first car?
I started off driving automatics and I have to say I will never buy another one. Manual is so much more enjoyable and I really hope that it stays. DCT is crap idc is it is more effective it is no comparison to using your whole body to control the car. Things may change but I hope that manual stays. As far as supercars being mostly dct now is because hardly anyone who buys them is a car enthusiast they are mostly just rich people who buy it for the name and luxury and don't even put the driving aspect into their decision.
Great job
it's called golden age complex and it's hard not to be a victim of it
Can we bring back pop-up headlights though?
NO
ChainsawChuck13 Do you not like them or...
They had their moment, and that moment is now over. They increase drag when up, they freeze in place during cold winters, if a motor breaks you've got no illumination from that side even when the bulb is still fine, and they add weight and complication (on the front end, which in the vast majority of cases is not a good thing).
They're also an aesthetic gamble. They aren't necessarily hideous (usually), but both the Nissan S13 and Toyota AE86 were better looking in their fixed-headlight variants (so of course the US market only got the popups, even though the archaic headlight regulations that led to their use were already gone in at least one of those cases), and fixed-headlight conversions on popup cars don't always look much better.
they made them illegal becaause of pedestrian safety laws
I know why you can't put them on morden cars and that they're impractical, but they're the coolest thing. Headlights go up, headlights go down.
ok, I get your point about the CAR tech. But, I would say this: I don't want a $20,000 that costs $30,000 because they've added Apple Car Play and a Touch Screen to the interior. That's the change that I don't like.
now days the changes of the versions of the cars basically is just a touchscreen with a software and adding software to the car
Bwhaha what?! Newer cars are easier to modify? That couldn't be further from the truth! Cars keep getting harder to modify!
+SideWayz Moose new cars are unfamiliar to work on because they're not what we're used to, most cars nowadays are designed with the mechanic in mind and engineers have gotten much better at making things more servicable. (With the exclusion of a few luxary brands we all know and love)
its harder, because sensors, and all those new stuff, nobody wants a check engine light just because you remapped your car
Fábio Loureiro if I unplug my battery in my VW I get a check engine light I couldn't even imagine a remap
Fábio Loureiro Read the fucking comment above
i responded to gears comment
Fuel injection is one thing. Making the whole car basically a computer on wheels is another.
Susano naah. the problem is change. my old uncle used say box tv were one thing, but flat screens tv is just something else.
Susano I agree. It's great that cars are getting faster and all that but they lose personality. It's like watching someone else play a game of chess. They might be better at it than you but it just takes away all the fun.
Computer programmers shiver at the thought that a bad line of code could end someones life. There's millions upon millions of lines of code in the newer cars, think about all the combinations of draw calls that could cause some anomaly glitch. Computers in cars should take the more analog approach, being less intrusive and more assistant. Not to mention all the touch screen controls that require you to look away from the road to use them...
Nizzle FoShizzle agreed. Even electronic throttle is fine if it doesn't require the computer to work, ie a potentiometer style circuit. the computer should be a third party, not a middle man.
most people aren't good drivers, most of them don't even want to drive, making the computer drive for them is better for them.
I feel very depressed about cars moving on, changing, becoming autonomous and shit. Can't watch the whole video man, Gonna go out and enjoy while I can...
Cars changing and moving is a good thing and a bad thing. I personally believe that cars will never be fully autonomous as long as humans exist. Even if they did, someone would eventually say "man, I miss being able to control my car." and would probably bring back manually controlled cars. I like the fact that some cars are getting faster, some are more aerodynamic and some are more fuel efficient. I also like that some are more comfortable and safe. What I don't like is the lack of manual transmission on most cars and some of the other dumb factors behind car design nowadays. But the stupid trends come and go. The stupid trends usually die harder.
Hemant Somnathe Tesla’s and autopilot sound cool, but I don’t want them to take over. Even my 24 year old Passport and my dream 97 Accord are still fun to me
future of cars looks dreadful. imagine the consumer only wanting self driving cars.
That's because the typical consumer these days wants to be on Instagram and Snapchat the whole way there.
As long as we exist there will always be user controlled cars. Dont worry.
In fact I'd much prefer if the mass majority of consumers had self driving cars, more road for us.
Xaines trust me when that happens they forbid you to drive
JDMEXforme I subbed because same car
Sam Kent I hope so
Having fuel injection doesn't affect the driving experience. Not having a manual transmission does. You're comparing apples to pears.
This vid is bs start to end.
Tim Frolov the video is just saying stuff is changing for the better but people find it hard to accept change
Lol okay
I'm afraid that the consumers of more expensive cars that non-car enthusiasts are buying said cars with dual clutches and autos when that doesn't reflect the lower income car person. I feel as though if more car people had more cash to throw at supercars there would be a lot more manuals.
+ShazamMan But, let's say the world is all autos all of the sudden. I know myself and a good amount of car people will miss the mechanical feel of a manual. You just don't get the same connection with an auto, in my opinion at least. Also, speed shouldn't really matter to a person as long as there having fun with there car, the car could be a 05 Corolla XRS or a 17 488 GTB, two completely diffrent cars but just because the corolla isn't as fast they can be having just as much fun if not more than the person in the Ferrari. So in the end just because the auto is faster than the manual shouldn't determine if your car is fun to you or not, it should be how the car makes you feel.
I definitely think you're right. The people that buy supercars mostly are buying them as status symbols. If you look at the more affordable sport car range they all pretty much come with a manual option. Us plebs still want manual sports cars.
Canadian Carguy So we need more rich car guys! Come on everybody get your ass up and lets make it to the 1% !!
Canadian Carguy that's is a really good point,never thought of that but makes so much sense
+Chrx x Exactly, how much said celebrity has in the bank is how shinny and new there Veneno is.
I HATE the fact that you can't get a spare key made for $5 anymore!! Now you have to buy a key for $170 and then ANOTHER $60 to have some guy plug it into a computer and push a button! 😑
or just buy a key fob for cheap the dealers always charge to much then program it yourself
IBuyFromKmart you can.t you need a special access code to program most key fobs
I keep hitting the panic button on my fob. I used to stick my key in my shoelaces while I ran, now keys are the size of a bagel bite and have batteries that run out 2 months after your warranty expires.
loveanianimeme Audi is 950 or so per key .. just lost both of mine lol... >.>
Oh no.. please give us back 10$ worth locks on our cars so they get jacked in under a minute. Most brainless comment ever.
this is sad man. i have even heard dodge might axe the hemi v8's. Chargers have been my dream cars and want to own one in the future but the future isn't looking bright for big bold aggressive cars like chargers
As long as it isn't government mandated to own a Prius, I'll be good 👌
@@SimonWoodburyForget Maybe. But atleast the ride ride there would give real car guys a smile on their face.
@@SimonWoodburyForget Doesnt seem to stop the ricers with crappy aliexpress suspensions and plastic bodykits either.
The Prius is a good platform for a hot hatch though. It is very aerodynamic. If only they treated it that way.
Come on, people now, people now
People now, come on, people now
Got to drive hybrid, people now
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Hybrids are for people now, people now
Good for people driving people now
Get a hybrid, be good people now.
We have all got to be people now
People driving hybrid people now
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Hybrid people driving people now
Come on people, let's be people now
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lol wait 5 years and you'll be there
I hate this trend of synthesising engine noise. BMW is guilty of that with the M5
Audi does that too!
Its like getting crappy plastic surgery
yep, i8 has that shit too
well people still buy them so they're gonna keep making them. you're in the minority here.
The Lexus LFA did that properly. And it is now the single best sounding road car ever made.
Manual transmissions save lives. The more you are focusing on what you are doing the more able you are to react to situations that are often life threatening, to us and the drivers we share the road with.
well, it stops people from texting.
1 hand on wheel
1 hand on stick shift
1 foot on gas
1 foot on clutch
can't steer with knee because both feet have to be pushing on the petals.
Steering with elbow would be too inconvenient.
not steering at all wouldn't be worth it (even to teen drivers).
Alpha Centauri always that one guy like u,who writes a whole paragraph of crap
+Crafty HD Boi makin a point, fuck is you talkin about? Just mad you can't make argument against his! 😂😂
@Alpha Centauri You can still look at the road while shifting gears
You have two hands and two feet,one feet you use for the clutch and the other for the brake and the throttle and two hands,you can put both on the steering and you use one to shift so that doesn't mean that people can't multi task,and even when shifting you still have one hand on the steering wheel so you can steer off if something gets in your way or use your foot to brake.
0:32 Porker, see? That's how you close a bonnet
Tolmaten HA!!! no safe space for Parker on RUclips for awhile.
Can we stop replacing v6's and v8's with 4 cylinders, seriously.
If I have a cart full of bricks, I get a horse to pull it, not a guinea pig on steroids.
The consumer market will kill everything that's "analog" in cars simply because there's not that many car enthusiasts that value the "soul" of the car when compared to your 9-5 Average Joe type of people. Do keep in mind that the masterpieces the likes of e46 m3 which I find to be the golden middle when it comes to technology aren't going anywhere in our lifetime. There's always going to be replacement parts for them and we will always be able to enjoy them.
I would say parts wont be an issue because we might have really good 3D or even 4D printers, who knows 🤷🏻♂️. But I will say gas will be an issue. UNLESS! You have a diesel cause you could just put like corn syrup or like used motor oil as a type of gas. Thats why I like diesels!
My favorite part is how they said Dual Clutch Transmission and then showed the Aventador which isn't even a dual clutch
You're wrong. Change is irrelevant. The point is the experience.
An EK Civic from 1999 is more fun to toss around than an Evo X- I know first hand. And this should not be the case. Modern cars, for the most part, are incredibly distant. Soulless. Antiseptic. People call it "refined," but its just numbing. A manual trans is a point of control that is being taken away. Electronic Stability Control is the same. Heck, even ABS takes away control in that you are no longer the only one telling the brakes what to do.
Those of us who can actually drive want to actually drive. And to us, that means having control. In many cases, it's fine to be able to give up some control. On a long drive home in heavy rain, when I just wanna get to bed, I'd love my car to drive for me. And failing that, I'd love to have ECS/ABS/Cruise control/etc. But what you advocate is complacency, which would lead to all control being stripped of those of us who are actually passionate about driving.
People are lazy to shift, come on which is harder, school or shifting, I don't want to pay 1200-2000 for a computer tell me when how to shift, i can buy tons of text book for my college funds, if Toyota makes manual camery in USA I would be happy to purchase it, you get reliable and fun at the same time.
I want Saab back
The last 9-5 they made looked stellar, too bad it was so shortlived :-/
JKintzle02 the interior was crap.
No way a GM product could have a crap interior...
MrOrtloff I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but these SAAB's from 2003-2011 have crap interior?
Javier, I promise I was being sarcastic.
Things that need to come back:
-Cheap entusiast versions cars at price of afordables (less the equipment is less the price)
-RWD on more cars
-Manual versions of all the cars
-Small coupes, sedans and hatchbacks with sporty intentions
-Easy to fix cars
-Cool Spoilers, hoods and POP-UP headlights fore more cars
-Single prupose cars (nowdays manufacturers look like they are triing to put all the things togeter in one product, examples BMW X6, Tesla Model X, Mercedes CLS, Range Rover sport SVR, BMW i8, or the ultimate minivan Faraday Futura FF91 (there some cool examples but is kinda exesive))
Well that is my opinion (if you want, bash me on the coments)
Yea we need affordable enthusiasts cars and not any unaffordable cars
But I don't want dual clutch :( I want a manual for the rest of my life!
Cars were once built to last nowadays cars are not durable at all...
Up you should go! I worked for Mercedes-Benz and Honda in car development and I can tell you. Cut the cost and plan obsolescence were two biggest demands from sales division. If someone said that some part of car is going to fail, sales said "Yes, but after the warranty expires, so we don't care." Nobody wants to make anything that lasts. Look at Saab. They made car that last forever and Saab is gone now.
Werscajk that's Capitalism in a Nutshell. Same goes with light bulbs for example. In 1900s there was a "forever lasting" light bulb invented. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest-lasting_light_bulbs
AlmeydaTV Cars were made to last once, but you have to go back mutch further than you'd think to find them. The change occurred after ww2. In the economic boom of the early 50s for the first time the car market became saturated. Everyone that needed a car and could afford one had one. To combat this car companies began radically changing the design of their cars every 3 years and in the late 50s at gm under harley earl they cut that down to one year. Which is why the 55 56 and 57 bel air are so different. This combined with cheaper paints designed to fail in 5 years, ensured that the sheer shame of driving an old decaying car, would keep you going to the Dealer every 5 years for the rest of your life.
What the hec are you driving? My 2013 Honda Civic is solid
Law19157 what about in 20 years?
Electric cars will kill it for me. It's very unfortunate to be honest.
whilst we may stop producing petrol cars in the next 40 years the actual ownership of preexisting cars will be around for a long long time
Why's that?
screw this.. Car companies are pushing dual clutch and automatic transmission because they are more difficult and expensive to fix.
This is one of the best car channels on RUclips if not the best. You guys are not biased and aren't ignorant to anything either. Keep up the good work
agreed! Awesome content.
They are biased and ignorant. Like as if they where paid by tesla. The whole vid is bs.
I'm up for most change but NOT electric cars man I would never buy one
It isn't the consumer that always determines changes, a lot is government mandates - taxes / regulations. What consumer wanted airbags ? Only after it was mandated did hey discover small people and children can be harmed by them. Now we have airbags that can explode with shrapnel [ Takata ]
And its a hassle for firemen too!
Cars will be uglier in 20 years time, thats a fact. They will look like concept cars
Royhan I hope not..
SickSkids yes you can
I REALLY hope not
Now the Turbine Car didn't look bad. Neither did the Nucleon, but they were both classic concepts.
No, cars now don't look like concept cars from the 90's
There's not really fair comparisons here; an electric vs gasoline car is a FAR broader comparison than disc vs drum brakes, or power vs. non power steering. We're seeing cars become faster, but also less unique; as with the Formula 1 example given, cars are looking more and more 'the same' these days, apart from rare examples. Performance cars are becoming harder to find, and 'driver's machines' are largely replaced by 'A to B' transportation. Your average electric car is a very sterile experience - no sound, no smells, and very little in common with a traditional car. Expecting most performance-oriented drivers to embrace the new as if it was just a mild evolutionary step (going back to power vs manual steering) is asking far more than you think it is.
I’m 14 and a young car guy let’s keep driving fun for the future
Also I don’t wanna lose combustion engine even if it didn’t run on gas as will keep manual alive
If new cars are "easier to modify" why do so many people still build 350 chevy V8s
I agree with these points for the most part, but I don't think comparing recent changes to things like disc brakes are fair. Disc brakes are universally better and really aren't more "old feel" than drums
New cars are too technological too boring.. theyre taking the driver out of driving as well..
Not as much as a electric car would take out the driving experience . Dont get me wrong, I love manual. But at the same time I like auto. Their both fine with me but, I do prefer manual :).
Ok boomer
The day I buy an electric car is the day I'll start dating men.
That means nothing, I'm gay and I wouldn't buy and electric car
Damn not even gay people would buy an electric piece of shit.
Its ok you don't have to turn gay, it just so happens that the materials used to make batteries are finite which means it will eventually run out & currently there isn't enough supply to meet global demand for both electric cars and other electronic devices. E.V.'s won't be a thing but keep an eye out for CNG & LNG Vehicles.
Haas'na Haas you're already getting it up the ass, but not dating, yeah? cause that would be gross
Then pucker up babe, cuz it's coming
But what about self driving cars and the possibility of banning manual driving?
In terms of self-driving car, we not gonna see many cars with one at least not anytime soon. For example one thing that car makers know for sure is car enthusiasts like us love actually driving the car ourself, and not some sensors and computers so for them to put a self-driving feature in a "sport" car is a dumb idea. I hope u understand
Denracer When I said manual driving I was referring to you actually driving the car not the computer, if that changes your first statement at all
Kaffarov sorry for misunderstanding, but i did talk about self driving car down here
its called get a car guy into power!
I don't think manual driving will ever be banned cos then what would happen to performance car brands like lamborghini, ferrari, porsche and mclaren. Those brands are all about driving experience. I think autonomous driving will be an option in every car that we could just select when ordering a new vehicle.
Government and regular car consumers ruined the car for us car people
Safety standards didn't ruin cars, it made them better.
MrOrtloff debatble. Most safety items are done years before govt forces them into cars. Many cars nowadays have blind spot monitoring systems. Its not forced by the governement... Yet. What the governement does is tell automakers to implement systems that were already in their mid to high end range of the model spectrum and forces it into the cheap range and raise the price of the cheap car. This is one of the reasons why cars today cost more than they did 10 years ago when adjusted for inflation.
Frank Magana In setting the regs on cheaper cars they make them safer for everyone; passengers other road users and pedestrians for the life of the car. Price wise you're getting more car for your money now than you did ten years ago - at least here in Australia.
Last thing blind spot monitors are really just for people who can't set up their mirrors correctly. and they really aren't adding much to the price of the car. The safety features which are fundamental to survivability in crashes shouldn't be optional just to get a new car on the road.
MrOrtloff but then the cheaper car isnt cheap anymore. We see this with pickup trucks. Theyre all over 40k now when they used to be more high 20's. So what do a lot of people do than? They see more value in getting a 12 year old pickup truck. Hell im looking into getting a Yukon for myself and sure as hell wont be anytging from the last 5 years
I agree, but I think it would be better to have a second hand car market with vehicles that have decent safety features than a cheaper new car market packed with Chinese death traps at the low end. That's what I was trying to get at when I said safety features that last the "life of the car".
Better pay than 15 years ago wouldn't hurt either.
this is one of those channels that should have 1 million subs.
1:55 LMFAO AN AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION IS NOT QUICKER THAN A MANUAL 😆😆😆
Yes they are
No they’re not
4 speed auto is slower than 5/6 manuals but there is a growing to automatics that has 7, 8 and even 10 speed transmission, while manual only stuck in 6 speed (except for Porsche 911 and Corvette C7, which offered 7 speed manual), which become slower
Yes they are
I get what this video was trying to say but IM SORRY MANUEL'S ARE JUST THE SHIT AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE WITH HARDCORE RACERS no matter what new bull shit the future brings simple as that.
At the end of the day who is buying theses new cars? Grown middle aged adults lol, Most of these viewers will not buy a new sports car we complain about something we cannot even afford and likely will wait until it depreciates so our young broke asses can buy it ahah
They're making what consumers want? DEAD WRONG. They make what they want and then have their marketing team try and convince us we need it.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Although, I'm always gonna be a manual guy, Can't beat chirping 2nd and 3rd gear, and nailing the perfect rev match. So much fun! - Awesome video guys, and beautifully edited, Keep it up!
The thing with new cars is the lack of soul. They are not that much dissimilar from each other because of cost cutting, tighter regulations, and TURBOCHARGE.
@@hunterrrdrives Maybe his favorite car is a muscle car, which all of them weren't use turbocharger
Ok boomer
Modern cars easier to fix than older ones?? yeah, sure.
I still drive vintage cars, and are more fun.
Plus prices are going up. 🙂😎
we need to go back ._.
You mean to say that we need to bring back some things.
No we don't. Fully self- driving cars will come in future, but there will be an option if you want to drive yourself
Long live the man pedal. It is the most dynamic and fun way to drive no matter what it is. There is nothing dynamic or fun about flappy paddles.
im gone miss the 1990 japanese cars in the future :'(
Me 2. I hate Tesla and other electric cars
all this is because toyota created the prius
But there are a lot of computer failures with new cars. It's just simple that the more parts you have, like a load of different computers, circuits, and so on, the more prone that they are to breaking.
Auto: I'm newer and better
Manual: Fuck you, I have more control.
I love the technology they are coming out with in newer cars. They are pushing the performance levels and making them more efficient. I am concerned with the fact that some car manufacturers are trying to lock down cars to the point that the everyday person cannot work on them. Imagine the engine under the hood of your car being treated like software on computers are being treated. Where you don't own the software, you are just buying a license to use it, and if you modify or change the software you will not only void your warranty but can be fined or sent to jail. You find this is some of the software's end-user license agreements (EULA).
If they bring the EULA mentality to cars it will kill the aftermarket, destroy motorsports for the amateur (goodbye track days), eliminate the ability for you to work on on your own vehicle (this includes simple oil changes), and smaller mechanic shops will go out of business if they are not authorized to repair these vehicles. Auto manufacturers and big car dealerships are pushing this all under the cover of environmental protection and driver safety when the true reason is to increase profits by cornering the market. I do not feel this change will come in the next 5 years, but in 10 or 15 years, it is definitely a possibility. So yes, cars are changing but in more ways than just how they are built.
what I hate about new cars is they tend to get heavier and heavier when new models came out. other than that, I'm cool.
Sure, but they are killing things we like, the roar and the punch of a VTEC was killed, the big ass lag followed by a big ass kick in the seat of a turbo was killed, with eletric steering now you have 000 road feel can't even feel the bump steering, with autos you lose feel, you can't feel the engine/gearbox vibrations you can feel that perfectly matched no clutch gear up. We are turning drivers to operators that just operate eletrical switches and knobs with no physical connection to our car/road. This is like driving a Miata, who cares if you are slow when you are smilling everytime you floor it or take a turn? Who cares if your 0-60 is 0,5s slower because you have a manual and not an auto? Its just sad to know that in a not so far future I will strugle to buy a brand new performance car with manual and real steering....
I love the feel of shifting gears myself, but there is just something to a PDK or a DSG that makes me giddy every time it shifts. And honestly if I had to choose a daily and the car came in manual and PDK/DSG/DCT, I'd be going for the dual clutch 9 times out of 10. For a track/fun car it's manual all the way.
I would go with Manual even in everyday car, even in traffic...