Difference between TSUKI (fore fist punch) and PUNCH|Ippei Yagi|goju-ryu|突きとパンチの違いとは?|剛柔流

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    空手の突きとボクシングのパンチでは何が違うのか?
    What is the difference between karate thrust and boxing punch?
    両者の違いを徹底解説
    I will thoroughly explain the difference between the two.
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  • @mojoesixpack
    @mojoesixpack 3 года назад +28

    That is exactly the way my teacher taught me; to think of tsuki as a penetrating stab. Great explanation here.

  • @squintclinic
    @squintclinic 3 года назад +28

    I understand ‘tsuki’ to mean ‘thrust’. It was translated into English as ‘punch’ to make it easier for non-Japanese speakers. Historically much of the subtlety of different original Japanese terms for Karate techniques have been similarly crudely translated. For example - ‘mae geri’ is not a front kick. It actually translates as ‘kicking to the front’. This is how we (western Karateka) have lost much of the real meaning, and therefore true understanding of much of the art. It was also in this manner that much of the dynamism of the different stances was lost; becoming instead, the typically static interpretation of what a ‘stance’ is. Things are changing though!

    • @jeffreyjavad145
      @jeffreyjavad145 3 года назад +2

      Fine distinction. Exactly what my friend who is an expert shotokan said.

    • @jeffreyjavad145
      @jeffreyjavad145 3 года назад +2

      I have yet to see a demo by someone doing moves with such finesse and power behind it like my friend.
      He is 74 .

    • @jeffreyjavad145
      @jeffreyjavad145 3 года назад

      Its v difficult to grasp the mechanics behind a tsuki kick block etc.
      Once you get your head around the mechanics it is necessary to condition the body (musculature) in order to execute techniques optimally. Body weight exercises and supplementary weights are used for developing the musculature for this.
      Isometric exercices are done for strengthening and toning forearms wrists and of course fingers.
      In conjunction with these makiwara is integral part if not karate is like a gun without a bullet as Master Funakoshi observed.

    • @GosokuRyuYodan
      @GosokuRyuYodan 3 года назад

      Well said, and accurate.

    • @GokuInfintysaiyan
      @GokuInfintysaiyan 3 года назад

      As someone who practiced Kyokushin and Shotokan in Japan I often heard Mae Geri thrown around amongst groups of only Japanese martial artists.
      I’ve also studied Goju Ryu and Uechi Ryu, same deal even when I’ve visit Okinawa
      I don’t think the “deeper” meaning was lost in the west

  • @TonyMarony73
    @TonyMarony73 3 года назад +3

    I'm not a Karate man. But I can brake wooden boards with my fist. I don't focus on the board itself, I focus what is behind it. So my punch and my target is behind the board. Also in previous videos, I noticed that I have same technique been for years of putting my hand into a fist, there is no gap, it's a solid hammer. Great videos.

  • @juliofaleato
    @juliofaleato 3 года назад +13

    Very very interesting. Something that have been running in my mind many years is that traditional karate includes boxing (but very few people teaches that). The way you hit the bag confirm that. Fantastic.

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 3 года назад +2

      Yeah that’s what many have forgotten for years.

  • @shreyasvedant1
    @shreyasvedant1 3 года назад +3

    Thats why Grandmaster Gichin Funakoshi once said "use your hands and legs like swords"

  • @superunknown75
    @superunknown75 3 года назад +1

    Good explanation and demonstration.

  • @16aravan
    @16aravan 3 года назад +2

    thank you so much for all the videos !

  • @MattKirzner
    @MattKirzner 3 года назад +3

    Those enlarged knuckles are the mark of a true Karate-ka

  • @WritingEliteGaming
    @WritingEliteGaming 3 года назад

    Wonderful explanation!

  • @yogi8337
    @yogi8337 3 года назад +1

    Nice work, thank you

  • @SavedSnake
    @SavedSnake 3 года назад +7

    This was actually intresting....I just might return to see more...🤔

  • @christiandulworth4427
    @christiandulworth4427 Год назад

    Outstanding explanation

  • @brunovmello
    @brunovmello 3 года назад

    Oss. Thanks a lot for the tips! Greetings from Brazil!

  • @markphilip9479
    @markphilip9479 3 года назад +4

    progressions for knuckle conditioning, should we starts by gently punching trees, the stone/sand buckets, then maki wara etc.. pls do this

  • @mahmodmorrar433
    @mahmodmorrar433 3 года назад +1

    GOOD TEACHER STRONG TRAINING OSS

  • @quatromea9783
    @quatromea9783 3 года назад +1

    make videos about goju ryu kicks, next month i will be a member

  • @patrickpittorino7032
    @patrickpittorino7032 3 года назад +1

    Sensei can or please explain how the mawashi uke in Seisan is different than in Other kata?

  • @kalaiarasan2841
    @kalaiarasan2841 3 года назад +1

    Super

  • @user-rg2dy4rn4z
    @user-rg2dy4rn4z 3 года назад +3

    I am a black belt in TKD really love Okinawan Karate but there's no dojo anywhere in my region which kata do I need to start with for self train .

  • @amrendrabahubali4618
    @amrendrabahubali4618 2 года назад +1

    Yes this is what I was finding, But tasuki is difficult to throw above chin it can only be thrown at body. I want to learn to throw tasuki above chin.

  • @leeirvin7916
    @leeirvin7916 3 года назад +2

    I have the honor of studying Shorin-Ryu Shorinkan under 7th Dan Robert Williams in Lynchburg, Virginia. The seal on my Gi seems different than the one in this amazing video. Are there different Okinawan karate styles??? Please continue posting 🔥 content!!!

    • @utkarshkaushal9631
      @utkarshkaushal9631 3 года назад

      Its okinawa goju ryu karate.

    • @leeirvin7916
      @leeirvin7916 3 года назад

      @@utkarshkaushal9631 may I ask what the main differences and similarities are between the two styles?

    • @utkarshkaushal9631
      @utkarshkaushal9631 3 года назад

      @@leeirvin7916 goju ryu means "hard and soft" that's all i know :))

    • @TNTTestificate
      @TNTTestificate 3 года назад

      @@leeirvin7916 Different lineages, different influences. Different ways of doing things. In my knowledge shorin ryu is a much softer style (more circular) than goju which blends hard and soft.

  • @kanzakisteven2780
    @kanzakisteven2780 3 года назад +1

    Can someone tell me where I can find the music to the beginning of this? Thank You in advance

    • @ninthkaikan1544
      @ninthkaikan1544 3 года назад +1

      I believe it is the channel’s own produced music, not available anywhere else.

  • @stefanobonfanti4841
    @stefanobonfanti4841 3 года назад +2

    amazing! but so what is the difference between kime and chinkuchi?

    • @yogi8337
      @yogi8337 3 года назад +2

      For simple explanation, search the video from karate nerd, he explain what is difference between kime & chinkuchi.
      Although, it will be different if the original okinawan karate master explain that, but it still better than many similiar video out there

    • @ninthkaikan1544
      @ninthkaikan1544 3 года назад

      @@yogi8337 It is in his video of Japanese vs Okinawan Karate. Extremely interesting video between both ways of practice for one art.

  • @robbybee70
    @robbybee70 3 года назад +2

    it is funny he describes the "upside down Tsuki" as very different from a boxer but I use that punch at times and I never trained in Okinawan karate, I get good use out of that particular strike tho! or I did back in the day

    • @evan5944
      @evan5944 3 года назад

      Yeah in boxing we call it a shovel hook

    • @robbybee70
      @robbybee70 3 года назад +1

      @@evan5944 I was shown a Shovel Hook a bit different

    • @evan5944
      @evan5944 3 года назад

      @@robbybee70 Dumbed down its the same principle but different styles. Driving a shovel hook in when your hips.
      Not sure how you learned it but that’s how I teach it.

  • @pentuplove6542
    @pentuplove6542 3 года назад +1

    One is Japanese the other is English. Words have meaning. Etymology. As a Karateka there are many ways to "Punch".

  • @N.P420
    @N.P420 3 года назад

    I miss my karate lessons SOOOOOOOO much😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
    This damn luck down 🤬.
    I realize the lockdown the must on my missing karate lecons😢.

  • @guillezafra7211
    @guillezafra7211 6 месяцев назад

    So boxers also use tsukis?

  • @chiperz00
    @chiperz00 3 года назад

    1:54 I could feel the breeze through my phone xD

  • @aikidotrek125
    @aikidotrek125 3 года назад

    👍🏾

  • @cicerodeoliveira9442
    @cicerodeoliveira9442 3 года назад

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @viktor7208
    @viktor7208 3 года назад +8

    Punch: hammer
    Tsuki: spear

  • @user-il2ye7dn7i
    @user-il2ye7dn7i 3 года назад

    音が凄まじい

  • @joeyvanhaperen7715
    @joeyvanhaperen7715 3 года назад

    The one thing I have never understood is why do people use fists to attack. If you look at the structure of a fist it's rubbish. The wrist is a massive weakpoint and not because it's made out if weak bones, but because it's a joint. If you punsh no matter how you do it part of your energie will get lost because your wrist will bend. The first set knuckels are small joints the stick out a bit yes but energie get's lost here as well. Also were talking about smaller bones here that break rather quick you have to keep that in mind while fighting sow you can't use your full power for risk of strikking bigger and stronger bones unless you were gloves that take some percussif force of. The strongest attack would be without the hand being involved in the first place. There are way's to strike with your wrists and those are way more powerfull and if you condition your bones right would even allow you to strike hardend steel. Not break or bend, but strike without breaking or bending yourself. Point your fingers up, keep your hand the same way, but turn your tumb at your body and now punsh. This way your punshing with the very tip of your radius bone which is 2,5 times thicker then the bones in your hand. When I strike with a fist my punshing bag barrely moves, but when I strike like that it almost fly's across the room and every form of strike you can do with a fist you can do with this with the bonus you can grappel quicker aswell. Sorry for the grammer I have dyslecia.

  • @salvoinca74
    @salvoinca74 3 года назад

    Tumasuki?

  • @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld
    @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld 3 года назад

    Pero las técnicas son buenas.

  • @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld
    @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld 3 года назад

    El lenguaje🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @pekazote6363
    @pekazote6363 3 года назад +1

    One touch certain death.

  • @amarildomiranda7502
    @amarildomiranda7502 3 года назад

    Oss!

  • @enriquejesusrodriguezmolpe4675
    @enriquejesusrodriguezmolpe4675 3 года назад

    El 👊tiene que salir, en posición contraria al suki.

  • @HentaiCheaters
    @HentaiCheaters 3 года назад +1

    His reach seems short af...

  • @st.douglasbullet1980
    @st.douglasbullet1980 3 года назад +1

    Oss

  • @gbrielarriaga8440
    @gbrielarriaga8440 3 года назад

    先生はあなたの柔軟性の練習を私たちと共有することができます、メキシコからの挨拶をお願いします
    Use traductor perdón 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

  • @stefanmajzel6963
    @stefanmajzel6963 3 года назад

    Wrong technik because i know giaku - tsuki and aTsuki you must hit or punch like hamer at the end of light punch its more spring which you need to train

  • @billycatch4088
    @billycatch4088 3 года назад

    hm.. for hand tehnique is western boxing better choice

    • @sassuki
      @sassuki 3 года назад

      Western boxing is a sport, and thus has very limited techniques

  • @comwarrior_79
    @comwarrior_79 3 года назад +1

    I'd better use punches than tsuki. Quick punches can do more damages the quicker the better.

    • @NuwandaLunaDragon
      @NuwandaLunaDragon 3 года назад +1

      Sometimes harder, heavier and firm steadiest do more damage than quicker

    • @comwarrior_79
      @comwarrior_79 3 года назад +1

      @@NuwandaLunaDragon nope. That's miss conceptions just an example of a boxer they are hard punchers and also quick. Practice to be quicker practice to be a hard puncher

  • @matthewk6731
    @matthewk6731 3 года назад

    When punching, one needs to be careful when throwing the punching shoulder forward and the other shoulder back as it can throw the body off balance and also open up the arm and shoulder to a counter attack. It's easier to dislocate the shoulder in this position.

  • @sassuki
    @sassuki 3 года назад +1

    Sounds very philosophical to me. Tsuki = Punch. Point.
    There are many types of punches. It is just that Karate emphasizes kizami-zuki and gyaku-zuki more, where western boxing emphasizes mawashi-zuki more (but they still have the kizami/gyaku, they just call them jab/cross).
    Most boxers have more destroying punches than many karateka by the way. In a TV show, they measured the punch of an above average boxer, he got 300kg. But the world Kumite champion got 180kg "only"

  • @o0mrrobot0o26
    @o0mrrobot0o26 3 года назад +1

    This stuff is what Bruce Lee called, "Classical mess".

  • @kreso4794
    @kreso4794 3 года назад +1

    Every boxer knows how to throw punches "inside the heavy bag".....so nothing new.

    • @NuwandaLunaDragon
      @NuwandaLunaDragon 3 года назад +1

      But they don't do it...

    • @justsomeguywithtattoos6267
      @justsomeguywithtattoos6267 3 года назад

      Well guess where they got it from.

    • @sassuki
      @sassuki 3 года назад

      @@NuwandaLunaDragon they do, and they hurt much more than most katateka. Was even measured at 300kg, where the world champion in Kumite achieved 180kg "only"

  • @RoRockerB
    @RoRockerB 3 года назад

    Umm...I wouldn't want to get hit by that guy!

  • @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld
    @karateboxerthegrapplercoroneld 3 года назад

    Ese no es un punch es un hay maker mal hecho ( sábanazo o volado)

  • @letterstoic
    @letterstoic 3 года назад

    If IceCube was Asian...

  • @resultbasedhandsonhealing1919
    @resultbasedhandsonhealing1919 3 года назад

    入りが浅い

  • @alexjackson1130
    @alexjackson1130 3 года назад

    Didn't explain did you ? Oh well, whatever

  • @user-ts3ou3zn9x
    @user-ts3ou3zn9x 3 года назад

    мастер сам не в теме в чем отличие -)))

    • @jackhammer5683
      @jackhammer5683 Год назад

      Всё он правильно объяснил. Как ты слушал?!

    • @user-ts3ou3zn9x
      @user-ts3ou3zn9x Год назад

      @@jackhammer5683 кто вы по образованию?

  • @grantdunstan7613
    @grantdunstan7613 3 года назад +1

    This looks like Karate is attempting to incorporate western boxing

    • @michealbreathnach2928
      @michealbreathnach2928 3 года назад

      He looks like a powerful striker. He has that snap in his strikes.

    • @grantdunstan7613
      @grantdunstan7613 3 года назад +1

      @@michealbreathnach2928 He has the build of a boxer, wrestler or judoka. The first question I have is how are his kicks? Very similar to Goshin Jutsu as far as I can see. I think when the art adopts this type of boxing... why screw your fingers up on concrete walls etc. Put a ring in the dojo and put on the boxing gloves.

    • @jeffreyjavad145
      @jeffreyjavad145 3 года назад

      @@grantdunstan7613 agree. Doing it bruce lee style. No makiwara no finesse.

    • @michealbreathnach2928
      @michealbreathnach2928 3 года назад

      @@grantdunstan7613 Despite his low stocky size, I bet he kicks well. I had a sensei once that was the very same build, strong guy, good striker, especially with the legs, brilliant ju jitsu and judo.
      This mans only downfall could be weight/cardio. If he was entering a long match fight he would be training hard and would lose excess kilos in the process then I'd say it would take a very hard man to face him. I'll be watching more of his videos.

    • @michealbreathnach2928
      @michealbreathnach2928 3 года назад

      @@jeffreyjavad145 100% right Jeffrey. Karate is brilliant, especially once its made fluid like Western boxing. Like Musashi did in K1.

  • @RODRIGAOBARRETO
    @RODRIGAOBARRETO 3 года назад +1

    BS

  • @unwaveringwilli5391
    @unwaveringwilli5391 3 года назад +1

    best hands belongs to boxing. best kicks belongs to muay thai.
    what's the point of karate?

    • @NuwandaLunaDragon
      @NuwandaLunaDragon 3 года назад +3

      Eh...
      No, that's not true
      Muay Thai is based on nearly full striking wich means elbows, knees, punches and kicks. How could they be the best at kicking when they don't focus on kicking?
      Karate is a lot better in kicks than Muay Thai, but the best kicks in attack terms are for the taekwondo, a martial art focused on kicks
      And is really de boxing the best at hands? Not even a legend in boxing like Mike Tyson were able to punch with full strength without breaking a knuckle when he was not using gloves
      Karate is focused in solidness, bodyblows, defense and headkicks. That's the point of karate
      Muay Thai is a lot more aggressive, a lot more complete in variety of attacks but it isn't good in defense
      Boxing has great punch techniques and great defense against punch, but it isn't good defending anything else like leg kicks, body knees or grappling (karate and Muay Thai have some defense against grappling)
      Martial arts are complex, every style has some weakness and strengths, saying this is the best at this and this is the best at that is oversimplifie things