I feel like Stat Padford was given to Matt by other fans around the league, not Lions fans. Anyone who followed the team closely understood that he often had to play hero ball late in games for the team to even have a chance No run game ever, bad offensive line, and many many porous defenses. Dude had to put up huge numbers for the Lions to win, and often they still didn’t. So it looked bad if you didn’t watch the games, which most of the league (understandably) did not.
@@ThePrufessa I lived in Michigan for most of Stafford's career there. Just because we experienced different things doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. The nickname was universal but I heard it from 90% opposing fans.
As a Vikings fan, we all knew Stafford was good. It was really hard to watch that Super Bowl because you're routing for Stafford, but Burrow had his story too. I'm glad it was Stafford in the end.
Well his career FG % is .425. His 3P FG % is .313. His career FT % is under .800. He shot a ton and generally not very well. He was fun to watch, his teams generally blew, so he kind of had to shoot. But those points are a bit padded because he never stopped shooting… some junk shots were bound to go in. He’s also like 5’10.
Ehh I wouldn’t bring stat padding into hockey. Guys get brought on to teams for different reasons (goal scorer, stay at home defenseman, offensive defensiveman, and third line grinder). Everyone has their role and hull was a goal scorer and he played his role very well.
Another thing that prevents a clear answer for Nolan Ryan, is his longevity. He pitched two no-hitters AFTER turning 40, and played 30 years of professional baseball (3 in the minors, 27 in the show)
I feel like you could’ve used more advanced stats to make your case. Playoff performance is not enough to make the case against Russ, use efficiency metrics and his numbers crumble
This dude Russell is one of the most intense "gamers" and wants nothing more than to win every single game he plays in. He goes harder than almost anybody play in, play out, chasing rebounds, chasing steals, dishing the rock, and scoring, and his label as a Stat padder is hypocrisy. Most teams wish they had a guy with Russell's heart and desire to win.
@@dakotathomas2139 you're also not mentioning how easy he is to game plan for once the playoffs start. Which is why every time he averaged a triple double he got bounced in the first round of the playoffs. All that stuff you mentioned means absolutely nothing if it doesn't lead to playoff success. And since him and Durant have been apart he hasn't made it past the second round of the playoffs. So what exactly are you talking about you oblivious dummy
You should have used one of those videos of Russell Westbrook stealing a rebound from one of his teammates. I think there's a lot of them to choose from.😊
Funny you mentioned that, because I was hoping he would bring up Ricky Davis, who infamously shot at his own basket with 6 seconds left because he was just one rebound short of a triple-double.
@@maxherzog3287 if by it you mean stats you're right. He would take the ball out of his own rebounders hands. I've seen him grab rebounds from Steven Adams that we're already in both of his hands. That's just gross.
3:30 The only "boost" Hank really got was playing in Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. He hit a few more homers there in nine years than he did in County Stadium in fourteen years.
Real ones know Cecil Shorts was the true king of NFL stat padding, I used to love seeing him getting me 25 fantasy points every week while his teams would lose 37-13 lmaooooo
Gotta keep in mind in Ryan's case he was pitching for some truly mediocre, if not awful, teams most of the time. His team records while on roster were as follows: Mets: 466-505 (Granted that '69 team was both Noice and inspiring and he didn't pitch the '67 season). Angels: 619-669 Astros: 733-674 ('80 and '86 teams had legit shots at the WS) Rangers: 414-396 (For a grand total of -12 over his entire career) Most of these teams played back in the day before Wild Cards and playoffs so it's hard to judge his playoff career on that as the Rangers were solid but never made the playoffs. And it's not like he was playing on the Yankees, Cardinals or Dodgers where his record would be even better because his team would have been hanging double digits on the opponents every night. He definitely chased K's to the detriment of his record and overall stats, but I don't think you can really say it was to the detriment of his team. For the first 13 years of his career, he basically was the team, for good or bad.
This will be hated by many, but, at least on the defensive side of the ball, Ray Lewis has to be the NFL stat padder of all time. Led the league in diving in on tackles already made and preening like a cockatoo on blow. Honorable mention: Junior Seau.
Baseball is to hard of a game for me to call anyone a stat padder. If you can play you deserve to be there. And if you can produce great stats then good on ya. There no fake rebounds to pad stats in baseball.
If Westbrook is going to stay on the Clippers, I really hope he switches to a more defensive mindset. He's shown he's got great defensive skills, but his insistence on trying to be a scoring god is detrimental to every team he's on.
@@ThePrufessa WOW! Didn't know people with 5 IQ existed. It was a joke first off and second Rodgers is one of the biggest Stat paddlers there is. You should think before you speak and understand the context of what is being said.
Baseball is the only sport that can’t really have stat padders because baseball is the ultimate team game in sports. One player can’t really push you over the top, even if they are an all time great.
I think Nolan really was hurt a bit playing on a lot of non-contenders. And circumstances had him be overshadowed when he turned in Cy-worthy seasons. He cut down on his walks a little when he went to Houston and I think he became a better pitcher in his 30s.
I think with Nolan Ryan, he padded his stats with completed games depending on his win/loss record in those games. I could find the specifics. Like if the majority of those completed games were losses and he told the coach he’s staying in, that’s just to pad the stats. I know he had no hitters in them, but it doesn’t reflect his record.
I remember watching a video about Russell, Westbrook on Jimmy highroller literally his teams won more when he got a triple double then when he didn’t turn the ball over like 70% and I never thought I would say but Russell Westbrook getting a triple double helped his team more than him shooting accurately/not turning the ball over so technically his stat padding for him got his team more wins
the triple double thing is kinda bogus to begin with at the point guard position. getting double digit assists is good and all but its not that uncommon, and there's lots of guys who do that along with maybe 5 or 6 rebs per game. westbrook just put in a concerted effort (and convinced his teammates) to get those extra 4 rebs per game. they were mostly gimme ones not like big time offensive rebounds or anything. most pg's simply don't go for rebounds. they are further up the floor waiting to receive a pass and create. he actually probably would have scored a lot more if he didn't focus on getting gimme rebounds and instead ran the break a lot up the floor with his high speed driving.
Westbrick's OR/DR ratio is atrocious. Normally a good rebounder has a ratio of like 1:3 but Westbrick's triple-double seasons were 1:5. (Then Dennis Rodman was a freak, he has 1:2 ratio).
Alex Ovechkin is the modern day Brett Hull. Ovi is a pure goal scorer that doesn’t do much in his own end. A few years back he lead the league in scoring and was dead last in plus minus.
Aaron is HR leader at 755 and Ruth and Judge at 154games. Adding 8 games changes ALOT. Hit record shows the difference with Rose AVG. compared to Cobb's Avg. Fact!
Emmit Smith and Jerry Rice were stat padding the last years of their careers especially Jerry he admitted he was playing for the love but also to try and make his receiving yards record unattainable for future receivers after him and he ended his career on the cart with a ACL because of it
James Harden is the king of stat padding. Especially in 2019 where he went from 36.2 PPG on 44% shooting in the regular season to 31.8 PPG on 41.3% shooting in the playoffs
Russ has to be the most disrespected dude in the NBA. Guy may be on the down swing of his career but he was never a stat padder. Some guys just choke in the playoffs
He was NOT on the "down swing of his career" when he was averaging triple doubles in the regular season then getting completely shut down in the playoffs because his game is too predictable and extremely EASY to game plan for once the playoffs start. He's the biggest stat padder on this list. And he proved that in this video you blithering moron.
Ive been a baseball fan all my life, its my favorite of the major sports and ive never heard anyone call Hank a stat padder...not even once. The guy was obviously a monster, sure he played more than 20 years but that was because he was still very effective. But it wouldnt surprise me if there were a small community of idiots who actually think he was one, people love to attempt to tear down people from their pedestals...likely because theyve never been placed on one themselves and have zero to offer humanity and since they know that they attempt to diminish what others have accomplished.
That's one good about soccer is you either score a goal or block a goal. All other stats are almost matter less. Haven't watched yet but guaranteed there isn't a soccer player on the list!
its hard to stat pad when nothing happens. closest thing would be how anybody can take a penalty shot no matter who it happened to, so a huge chunk of ronaldos goals came from penalties on other guys.
Allen Iverson's career field goal percentage was 42.5. not elite. Nonetheless he was a great player on a very crappy Philly team and his true shooting percentage was 51% so it's a mixed answer. He was a kinda stat padder.😊
I like how AI and Stafford dragging bad teams to wins give them a pass but Westbrook... whose MVP season came on the heels of OKC losing the league's best scorer when they didn't expect to... dragged teams to the playoffs. Yeah they lost. It's what happens when you play exclusively better competition. Scoring: Westbrook scored a lot because OKC lost Durant. Even when they had PG he wasn't always available. Assists: Westbrook passes the ball, to a less capable player, and that player makes the shot. He can pass, but he can't guarantee the bucket. Rebounds: Having a primarly ball handler bring the ball up court is smart, but Westbrook's teams never had a big man (like Draymond) who could do that. So it's better for him to get the board and move quickly in transition. Check out OKC's record with and without Westbrook triple doubles. For those three seasons the team was bad but they were better because of his effort.
In the NHL Brett Hull was known as a Cy Young winner. That's where your goal total far outweighs your assist total. Also, as prolific a scorer as Wayne Gretzky was, in many years he was also on the ice for more goals against than any other player in the league. But when you score at the rate he did it really was never an issue.
@@PhilliesNostalgia Yep, it's in reference to the pitching award in baseball. It's a rare feat to have many more goals than assists in a hockey season, even rarer to do it over many seasons. i should have mentioned it's not an actual award, it's an unflattering term for a one dimensional player.
@@BunnEFartz In the early years of pro hockey, it was only one assist maximum. They started giving out the second assist after WW2 IIRC. They also didn't permit two-line passes until sometime in the 90's. It was very much a "lug the puck" league, with the result that many early stars had "Cy Young" statlines. That being said, Hull DID win an MVP and two Cups, including the series-winner in 1999. (Good goal, btw.)
I don’t think Brett Hull is really a stat padder, there are enough different players on an NHL team that it’s unrealistic to expect their best goal scorer to be their best defensive forward. Plus minus is also susceptible to relying on a team’s overall goal differential (if you’re good but your team sucks, like Clayton Keller for example, you’ll have a bad +/-) Biggest stat padder I’ve seen in the NHL is Victor Olofsson. He had almost 30 goals this season, but he mainly scored on the power play and was an absolute liability in the defensive zone. Making things worse, he’s basically the least clutch player ever. It felt like much of when he scored was when the Sabres were already either winning or losing by multiple goals. To be fair, he still could have a lot of value on a defensively sound team that needs scoring (like the Calgary Flames, potentially), but the Sabres were loaded on offense and had one of the worst defenses in the NHL, so Olofsson didn’t help on that front
Video Request: Why Are The Charlotte Hornets So Bad? North Carolina has a rich history in basketball and is owned by the GOAT Michael Jordan, who is from NC, so they should have a winning Pro Basketball team in top tier area, but instead it's home to the worst arena in the NBA and continues to disappoint every season.
Jaime Moyer is the only stat padder I see in baseball. He played for a long time but was never the best. I heard he wanted to keep pitching till he won 300 games so he'd go into the hall of fame. Idk could be a fake story probably is just what I heard...
Cool video but I don't see how you can stat pad in baseball. Like, if you're batting, you're trying to get hits. And the more hits you have, the more you help your team. But ultimately you can't do more than play your role. No one acusses Mike Trout of stat padding even if the Angels suck because he's doing his part
If Mike Gartner isnt on here I will be back with an edit expressing my displeasure Edit: BRET HULL? ON ACCOUNT OF PLUS MINUS??? WHEN HE PLAYED FOR THE BLUES? We are being unserious
I don't understand something. Why is accumulating a lot of yards and touchdowns in the last few minutes of games a criticism? Isn't that a good thing? Isn't that what quarterbacks are supposed to do when behind late in the game, get a lot of yards quickly to score quick touchdowns? Also, was Stafford calling his own plays? If not, how could he possibly be padding his stats?
Never heard the “padford” thing, that’d be funny if I were 7. Fun fact: The lions are actually not allowed to be good. Sanders? Nope. Megatron? Nope. Stafford? Nope. All great players, all (practically) career lions and 0 Super Bowl appearances with the Lions. Good enough to know they won’t be quite good enough for anyone to care. That’s the best the lions ever are, or can ever hope to be.
No, westbrook is not a stat padder and i will note people have changed or don't know the entire reason for the criticism. He is also wrong in his statement of "cares more about stats than winning", i don't know what it was after okc but with okc for three seasons he had an over 70% win rate when getting a triple double. So once again, reality is flying in the face of at least part of the criticism.
Nah that goes to Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt only started to win once he stopped scoring so much. When Russ was putting up his huge stats he was playing with not the best players. I’m definitely putting the ball in the hands of Westbrook over Steven Adams, pre breakout Olidipo, rookie Sabonis, Andre fucking Roberson, Taj Gobson, or super young Cameron Payne and Grant.
The players that use the rules to their advantage unless they are certain superstars (Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, ). If they were stiffs, who gives a 💩?
No. Huge L with Hull. Just because he had way more goals then assists and a low p/m, doesnt make him a stat padder. Thats like saying Ovi is a stat padder. And then saying Stafford isnt? Until the SB season, he was constantly playing terrible in the first half of games and then look good when the games out of reach. Not a great list my man.
It's wierd because as much as he does, I don't even think he realises that he's doing it. It's not Russ stealing rebounds, or someone scoring a goal off your stick. Joker just plays a lot and always has high numbers even without the playoffs wins to show for it..
Yeah look at Jokic winning his team games with efficiency and all that passing and rebounding. He should put the ball in MPJs and Jamal Murray’s hands and let them cook instead of getting all these meaningless stats frfr.
@HurricaneStarang stat padding is playing in a way to increase your stats without improving your teams odds of winning. The Nuggets are the first seed and have made the conference finals when the entire team is healthy
Matthew Stafford is the poster child for being underrated/underappreciated for so long you get called overrated
so true the lions would of been the browns for the last 10 years without him
Stafford is the poster child for stat padding dude never won shit until he joined a super team
I feel like Stat Padford was given to Matt by other fans around the league, not Lions fans. Anyone who followed the team closely understood that he often had to play hero ball late in games for the team to even have a chance
No run game ever, bad offensive line, and many many porous defenses. Dude had to put up huge numbers for the Lions to win, and often they still didn’t. So it looked bad if you didn’t watch the games, which most of the league (understandably) did not.
I live in Detroit and you have no idea what you're talking about.
You're right about the stat padding myth. But you're wrong about Lions fans not being guilty of calling him a stat padder.
@@ThePrufessa I lived in Michigan for most of Stafford's career there. Just because we experienced different things doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. The nickname was universal but I heard it from 90% opposing fans.
@@ThePrufessa sounds like you just hate the Lions. Begone.
I have NEVER heard Aaron called a stat-padder
Me neither
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@@badxxxmonkey5541 go to sleep dummy
As a Vikings fan, we all knew Stafford was good.
It was really hard to watch that Super Bowl because you're routing for Stafford, but Burrow had his story too.
I'm glad it was Stafford in the end.
The only stat AI padded was his height. That 6' he's listed at, yeah even wearing his high tops that's being generous.
Well his career FG % is .425. His 3P FG % is .313. His career FT % is under .800.
He shot a ton and generally not very well. He was fun to watch, his teams generally blew, so he kind of had to shoot.
But those points are a bit padded because he never stopped shooting… some junk shots were bound to go in.
He’s also like 5’10.
Ehh I wouldn’t bring stat padding into hockey. Guys get brought on to teams for different reasons (goal scorer, stay at home defenseman, offensive defensiveman, and third line grinder). Everyone has their role and hull was a goal scorer and he played his role very well.
Good point. Not a hockey fan but this sounds like a pretty good perspective to keep things in.
Hank Aaron shouldn’t be on this list either, he’s gotta hit the ball right?
I would have had Kirk Cousins in there as well tbh
Wish I could see "Oscar Robinson", the GOAT in basketball. LOL
Another thing that prevents a clear answer for Nolan Ryan, is his longevity. He pitched two no-hitters AFTER turning 40, and played 30 years of professional baseball (3 in the minors, 27 in the show)
I feel like you could’ve used more advanced stats to make your case. Playoff performance is not enough to make the case against Russ, use efficiency metrics and his numbers crumble
Maybe you should make your own video then
Either way the numbers says he's a stat padder so what difference does it make???
This dude Russell is one of the most intense "gamers" and wants nothing more than to win every single game he plays in. He goes harder than almost anybody play in, play out, chasing rebounds, chasing steals, dishing the rock, and scoring, and his label as a Stat padder is hypocrisy. Most teams wish they had a guy with Russell's heart and desire to win.
@@dakotathomas2139 what about all of the missed layups and elementary school turnovers?! Kinda funny how you left those out of your assessment.
@@dakotathomas2139 you're also not mentioning how easy he is to game plan for once the playoffs start. Which is why every time he averaged a triple double he got bounced in the first round of the playoffs. All that stuff you mentioned means absolutely nothing if it doesn't lead to playoff success. And since him and Durant have been apart he hasn't made it past the second round of the playoffs. So what exactly are you talking about you oblivious dummy
You should have used one of those videos of Russell Westbrook stealing a rebound from one of his teammates. I think there's a lot of them to choose from.😊
Some videos actually show Westbrick's defensive effort for shutting down his own teammates.
Funny you mentioned that, because I was hoping he would bring up Ricky Davis, who infamously shot at his own basket with 6 seconds left because he was just one rebound short of a triple-double.
He wanted it more
@@maxherzog3287 wanted stats more
@@maxherzog3287 if by it you mean stats you're right. He would take the ball out of his own rebounders hands. I've seen him grab rebounds from Steven Adams that we're already in both of his hands. That's just gross.
3:30 The only "boost" Hank really got was playing in Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. He hit a few more homers there in nine years than he did in County Stadium in fourteen years.
Real ones know Cecil Shorts was the true king of NFL stat padding, I used to love seeing him getting me 25 fantasy points every week while his teams would lose 37-13 lmaooooo
Gotta keep in mind in Ryan's case he was pitching for some truly mediocre, if not awful, teams most of the time. His team records while on roster were as follows:
Mets: 466-505 (Granted that '69 team was both Noice and inspiring and he didn't pitch the '67 season).
Angels: 619-669
Astros: 733-674 ('80 and '86 teams had legit shots at the WS)
Rangers: 414-396 (For a grand total of -12 over his entire career)
Most of these teams played back in the day before Wild Cards and playoffs so it's hard to judge his playoff career on that as the Rangers were solid but never made the playoffs. And it's not like he was playing on the Yankees, Cardinals or Dodgers where his record would be even better because his team would have been hanging double digits on the opponents every night. He definitely chased K's to the detriment of his record and overall stats, but I don't think you can really say it was to the detriment of his team. For the first 13 years of his career, he basically was the team, for good or bad.
This will be hated by many, but, at least on the defensive side of the ball, Ray Lewis has to be the NFL stat padder of all time. Led the league in diving in on tackles already made and preening like a cockatoo on blow. Honorable mention: Junior Seau.
Baseball is to hard of a game for me to call anyone a stat padder. If you can play you deserve to be there. And if you can produce great stats then good on ya. There no fake rebounds to pad stats in baseball.
Excellent point
Shout out AI. His job was to score and when he finally put it together, it lead to an MVP and Finals Appearance
If Westbrook is going to stay on the Clippers, I really hope he switches to a more defensive mindset. He's shown he's got great defensive skills, but his insistence on trying to be a scoring god is detrimental to every team he's on.
Wins and losses are a meaningless stat for pitchers. If your teammates don’t score runs you can’t win games
Dave Steib(spelling) is the best Pitcher in Blue Jay history and the fact that he is not in the Hall or won a Cy Young freaking kills me
Mispronounced Matt Stafford the NFC north QB you were looking for was Aaron Rodgers.
He wasn't looking for an NFC North quarterback. He was looking for people that are labeled as stat padders. Pay attention doofus.
@@ThePrufessa WOW! Didn't know people with 5 IQ existed. It was a joke first off and second Rodgers is one of the biggest Stat paddlers there is. You should think before you speak and understand the context of what is being said.
Baseball is the only sport that can’t really have stat padders because baseball is the ultimate team game in sports. One player can’t really push you over the top, even if they are an all time great.
You still have to have the talent to pad your stats.
Good point 🤣
Kobe didn’t seem to know how to pass the ball. Fight me.
Why did you have to put our man Dan down... 😂
I think Nolan really was hurt a bit playing on a lot of non-contenders. And circumstances had him be overshadowed when he turned in Cy-worthy seasons. He cut down on his walks a little when he went to Houston and I think he became a better pitcher in his 30s.
One year he led the NL in ERA... and finished 8-16. Nolan Ryan did nothing halfway, ever.
That Brett Hull footage looks like it was filmed with a potato.
Well when you compare the recording technology of his era to today's technology then he basically was being recorded with a potato. What's your point?
You found time to put up the toast for Eli Apple, you absolute mad lad
love the hockey addition to the video!!
The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice.
I think with Nolan Ryan, he padded his stats with completed games depending on his win/loss record in those games. I could find the specifics.
Like if the majority of those completed games were losses and he told the coach he’s staying in, that’s just to pad the stats. I know he had no hitters in them, but it doesn’t reflect his record.
Oscar ROBERTSON. Not Robinson
An otherwise great video.
1:52, Marino is great despite not having a ring.
To me... Baseball stat padding doesn't exist to me personally especially when its so hyper dependent on the team's competence
I remember watching a video about Russell, Westbrook on Jimmy highroller literally his teams won more when he got a triple double then when he didn’t turn the ball over like 70% and I never thought I would say but Russell Westbrook getting a triple double helped his team more than him shooting accurately/not turning the ball over so technically his stat padding for him got his team more wins
Yeah cause he’s more focus on getting a rebound than scoring or passing the ball 😂😂
Westbrook on the thunder needed every single one of those Stats to keep his team relevant
Basically
Derek Carr should be on this list
U gotta put jokic on here too ..💯💯
Coming in five years for the sequel to this video, is these Chargers QBs, especially Justin Herbert, a bunch of Stat Padders?
I love the channel just wished you would make longer videos
the triple double thing is kinda bogus to begin with at the point guard position. getting double digit assists is good and all but its not that uncommon, and there's lots of guys who do that along with maybe 5 or 6 rebs per game. westbrook just put in a concerted effort (and convinced his teammates) to get those extra 4 rebs per game. they were mostly gimme ones not like big time offensive rebounds or anything. most pg's simply don't go for rebounds. they are further up the floor waiting to receive a pass and create. he actually probably would have scored a lot more if he didn't focus on getting gimme rebounds and instead ran the break a lot up the floor with his high speed driving.
Westbrick's OR/DR ratio is atrocious. Normally a good rebounder has a ratio of like 1:3 but Westbrick's triple-double seasons were 1:5. (Then Dennis Rodman was a freak, he has 1:2 ratio).
Alex Ovechkin is the modern day Brett Hull. Ovi is a pure goal scorer that doesn’t do much in his own end. A few years back he lead the league in scoring and was dead last in plus minus.
Aaron is HR leader at 755 and Ruth and Judge at 154games. Adding 8 games changes ALOT. Hit record shows the difference with Rose AVG. compared to Cobb's Avg. Fact!
Emmit Smith and Jerry Rice were stat padding the last years of their careers especially Jerry he admitted he was playing for the love but also to try and make his receiving yards record unattainable for future receivers after him and he ended his career on the cart with a ACL because of it
Nolan Ryan also holds the record for most no-hitters at 7 and the fastest pitch ever at 108 mph among other records
James Harden is the king of stat padding.
Especially in 2019 where he went from 36.2 PPG on 44% shooting in the regular season to 31.8 PPG on 41.3% shooting in the playoffs
I forgot how much I miss midday Morey pregnancy reveals...ahhh the memories
FivePoints Vids! What’s up mannnn!
No Brees? Deep dive that guy...
Russ has to be the most disrespected dude in the NBA. Guy may be on the down swing of his career but he was never a stat padder. Some guys just choke in the playoffs
Everytime russ joins a new team he plays really well for like 3 weeks then falls off. He has a fuckin ego problem.
He was NOT on the "down swing of his career" when he was averaging triple doubles in the regular season then getting completely shut down in the playoffs because his game is too predictable and extremely EASY to game plan for once the playoffs start. He's the biggest stat padder on this list. And he proved that in this video you blithering moron.
Russell Westbrook may be a stat padder. But at least unlike your dad, he came back with the milk.
The biggest diss in this video is to Oscar Robertson
Andre blatche a name I ain’t heard ina minute
I'd say Claude Giroux is a stat padder
Ive been a baseball fan all my life, its my favorite of the major sports and ive never heard anyone call Hank a stat padder...not even once. The guy was obviously a monster, sure he played more than 20 years but that was because he was still very effective. But it wouldnt surprise me if there were a small community of idiots who actually think he was one, people love to attempt to tear down people from their pedestals...likely because theyve never been placed on one themselves and have zero to offer humanity and since they know that they attempt to diminish what others have accomplished.
Stat Padford.
A.I had no help, at all....
That's one good about soccer is you either score a goal or block a goal. All other stats are almost matter less. Haven't watched yet but guaranteed there isn't a soccer player on the list!
its hard to stat pad when nothing happens. closest thing would be how anybody can take a penalty shot no matter who it happened to, so a huge chunk of ronaldos goals came from penalties on other guys.
Morten Gamst-Pedersen, perhaps?
Did that graphic ask is LeBron a 1st ballot HOFer?
Dude has had like 4 HOF careers in one :D
I feel like Ovechkin should’ve been on this list. I would say he is very much a stat padder. And I’m a Caps fan.
Allen Iverson's career field goal percentage was 42.5. not elite. Nonetheless he was a great player on a very crappy Philly team and his true shooting percentage was 51% so it's a mixed answer. He was a kinda stat padder.😊
Aaaa corruption is the right word...
Who has ever considered hank Aaron a stat padder?
No Drew Brees? He's the champion of stat padders.
I like how AI and Stafford dragging bad teams to wins give them a pass but Westbrook... whose MVP season came on the heels of OKC losing the league's best scorer when they didn't expect to... dragged teams to the playoffs. Yeah they lost. It's what happens when you play exclusively better competition.
Scoring: Westbrook scored a lot because OKC lost Durant. Even when they had PG he wasn't always available.
Assists: Westbrook passes the ball, to a less capable player, and that player makes the shot. He can pass, but he can't guarantee the bucket.
Rebounds: Having a primarly ball handler bring the ball up court is smart, but Westbrook's teams never had a big man (like Draymond) who could do that. So it's better for him to get the board and move quickly in transition.
Check out OKC's record with and without Westbrook triple doubles. For those three seasons the team was bad but they were better because of his effort.
In the NHL Brett Hull was known as a Cy Young winner. That's where your goal total far outweighs your assist total.
Also, as prolific a scorer as Wayne Gretzky was, in many years he was also on the ice for more goals against than any other player in the league. But when you score at the rate he did it really was never an issue.
Does the NHL Cy Young name come from Cy Young winning so many games, or is there a different origin to the name?
@@PhilliesNostalgia Yep, it's in reference to the pitching award in baseball. It's a rare feat to have many more goals than assists in a hockey season, even rarer to do it over many seasons.
i should have mentioned it's not an actual award, it's an unflattering term for a one dimensional player.
@@BunnEFartz In the early years of pro hockey, it was only one assist maximum. They started giving out the second assist after WW2 IIRC. They also didn't permit two-line passes until sometime in the 90's. It was very much a "lug the puck" league, with the result that many early stars had "Cy Young" statlines.
That being said, Hull DID win an MVP and two Cups, including the series-winner in 1999. (Good goal, btw.)
Can you do a video about team relocations?
I don’t think Brett Hull is really a stat padder, there are enough different players on an NHL team that it’s unrealistic to expect their best goal scorer to be their best defensive forward. Plus minus is also susceptible to relying on a team’s overall goal differential (if you’re good but your team sucks, like Clayton Keller for example, you’ll have a bad +/-)
Biggest stat padder I’ve seen in the NHL is Victor Olofsson. He had almost 30 goals this season, but he mainly scored on the power play and was an absolute liability in the defensive zone. Making things worse, he’s basically the least clutch player ever. It felt like much of when he scored was when the Sabres were already either winning or losing by multiple goals. To be fair, he still could have a lot of value on a defensively sound team that needs scoring (like the Calgary Flames, potentially), but the Sabres were loaded on offense and had one of the worst defenses in the NHL, so Olofsson didn’t help on that front
*in sports
pele and ibrahimovic biggest padders in soccer
Hank Aaron being considered a stat padder is asinine.
Drew Brees was a stat padder.
These fools can keep Hank Aaron’s name out of their mouth
Tom Brady seems pretty obvious. There is a reason he came out of retirement.
Video Request: Why Are The Charlotte Hornets So Bad?
North Carolina has a rich history in basketball and is owned by the GOAT Michael Jordan, who is from NC, so they should have a winning Pro Basketball team in top tier area, but instead it's home to the worst arena in the NBA and continues to disappoint every season.
James Harden should be on the part 2 video
Jaime Moyer is the only stat padder I see in baseball. He played for a long time but was never the best. I heard he wanted to keep pitching till he won 300 games so he'd go into the hall of fame. Idk could be a fake story probably is just what I heard...
Russell WestBRICK... That guy sucks so bad, Clips fans were kissing his butt for game one yet he was 3 for forever and had one lucky block.
Cool video but I don't see how you can stat pad in baseball. Like, if you're batting, you're trying to get hits. And the more hits you have, the more you help your team. But ultimately you can't do more than play your role. No one acusses Mike Trout of stat padding even if the Angels suck because he's doing his part
If Mike Gartner isnt on here I will be back with an edit expressing my displeasure
Edit: BRET HULL? ON ACCOUNT OF PLUS MINUS??? WHEN HE PLAYED FOR THE BLUES? We are being unserious
He had more goals than assists, what exactly do you want? Stat pads.
@@chrisp679 I'm a Caps fan who grew up mostly in the the Ovi era, more goals than assists will never convince me of anything.
@chris p how does more goals than assists matter
@@blakeallen2721 but at least with Ovi, he wasn’t afraid to pass the puck from time to time save for that four season spell in the mid 2010s.
@@CosmicJester21 they matter when you can’t crack 100 points outside of three times in your career and are that of a one track mind.
I don't understand something. Why is accumulating a lot of yards and touchdowns in the last few minutes of games a criticism? Isn't that a good thing? Isn't that what quarterbacks are supposed to do when behind late in the game, get a lot of yards quickly to score quick touchdowns?
Also, was Stafford calling his own plays? If not, how could he possibly be padding his stats?
What's The Most Reliable Ford In Detroit?
A Stat Ford
The lack of Drew Brees is disappointing.
Robertson not Robinson
Never heard the “padford” thing, that’d be funny if I were 7.
Fun fact: The lions are actually not allowed to be good. Sanders? Nope. Megatron? Nope. Stafford? Nope. All great players, all (practically) career lions and 0 Super Bowl appearances with the Lions.
Good enough to know they won’t be quite good enough for anyone to care. That’s the best the lions ever are, or can ever hope to be.
Thought it would be Kirk cousins
I don’t believe Jokic is a stat padder, but Russell Westbrook is
No, westbrook is not a stat padder and i will note people have changed or don't know the entire reason for the criticism.
He is also wrong in his statement of "cares more about stats than winning", i don't know what it was after okc but with okc for three seasons he had an over 70% win rate when getting a triple double. So once again, reality is flying in the face of at least part of the criticism.
Russell westhook is the biggest stat padder in all of sports, far none.
Nah that goes to Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt only started to win once he stopped scoring so much. When Russ was putting up his huge stats he was playing with not the best players. I’m definitely putting the ball in the hands of Westbrook over Steven Adams, pre breakout Olidipo, rookie Sabonis, Andre fucking Roberson, Taj Gobson, or super young Cameron Payne and Grant.
The players that use the rules to their advantage unless they are certain superstars (Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, ). If they were stiffs, who gives a 💩?
Kirk Cousins?
Why censor Westbrook's name?
No. Huge L with Hull. Just because he had way more goals then assists and a low p/m, doesnt make him a stat padder. Thats like saying Ovi is a stat padder. And then saying Stafford isnt? Until the SB season, he was constantly playing terrible in the first half of games and then look good when the games out of reach. Not a great list my man.
You forgot the word “in” in the title
No he didn't
Sorry, but LeClown is a stat padder and a legacy chaser.
The Hull one is a bad take
Brett Favre?
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Jokic is the king of stat padding
It's wierd because as much as he does, I don't even think he realises that he's doing it. It's not Russ stealing rebounds, or someone scoring a goal off your stick. Joker just plays a lot and always has high numbers even without the playoffs wins to show for it..
Yeah look at Jokic winning his team games with efficiency and all that passing and rebounding. He should put the ball in MPJs and Jamal Murray’s hands and let them cook instead of getting all these meaningless stats frfr.
Casual take
@HurricaneStarang stat padding is playing in a way to increase your stats without improving your teams odds of winning. The Nuggets are the first seed and have made the conference finals when the entire team is healthy
If you aint cheating, you aint trying
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Russ is more a stat passer than Jokic. And Jokic isn't a stat padder
Rings are overrated Dan Marino is a top 5 QB of all time.