Does Ian Foster deserve more credit? | Aotearoa Rugby Pod
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2023
- Ross Karl and Bryn Hall are back this week to dissect the All Blacks' Bledisloe Cup win and discuss what selections we need to see in the next Test. Finlay Christie joins the show to share some insights about the All Blacks coaches and stories from his gymnastics background. The lads also cover all the other hot topics from the weekend's action.
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Well done Bryn, running solo tonight and did an awesome job. You're rugby commentary and analysis is far better than anyone on the The Breakdown. It's a pleasure listening to you
I can't agree more with this comment. Ross, Bryn and especially James are on another level compared to the Brakedown.
He is so good
Totally agree he needs to be on more shows
Finlay Christie seems like a top bloke, would love to see him get some more media time if available
@billytapurau5015 Finlays box kicks and kicks from the back of the scrum to the sideline are his weak points well thats what I believe. A great player mind you but just for those 2 things. Sorry Finlay..
Agree with B Hall - must give Foz massive props for trusting the young players on front line ... now Lomax, deGroot & Taukei'aho are seasoned and will bring the brutality to the Bokke, French & Ireland packs !
He sure deserves it because Jason and Schmidt have bought the fresh skills but Foz still held the team together and has been staunch in the face of all our criticism, I think the criticism was warranted but he dealt with it well and now we stand by him till the end.
What a load of bullshit he was destroying the ABs legacy before Ryan and Schmidt came on board, he had the worst percentage of any coach before him and managed THREE historical losses while he was at it ffs 🙄 🤦🏽♂️
This is the great rugby show available to the general public! Thank you all!
I am going to watch and support these black's harder then any other and to all those who are supporting the next team and coach can we wait until this team comes home with the cup before hearing talk of the new coach/team. This is the only all black team here today that we should be talking about.
I am for the All Blacks all the way through, I am glad that the Razor Scott Robertson effect is having an obvious impact on the All Blacks improvement through Jason Ryan who will continue on with the next coaching setup. Both Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan has made it tenable for Ian Foster going into the World Cup. It's great to see that the Foster era is making some amends to the tainting of our All Blacks Legacy. But in reality the Blame should not be on Foster but on NZR as in New Zealand Rugby for the blunder of appointing him. So last year NZR made the suggestion and decision to bring in Jason Ryan to join Joe Schmidt in the coaching box. Razor will be rejoined with his former forward coach to unleash what all ABs opposition are dreading. The announcement of Razor taking over has put the country at ease and given some peace of mind. May our men in black bring home the Web Ellis cup no matter who is in the coaches seat.
No one is above the game but the right of hardcore Kiwi opinions who have witnessed devastating series losses to Ireland (how many Irish kiwis were there in that series that weren't given the respect to finish their careers in the blacxk jersey) Argentina and the previous embarassing loss to the poms at the last RWC with Foster AND Hanson at the helm. So as a STAUNCH AB follower I'll give my unbiased honest and simple opinion wether anyone agrees or not with MY opinion as much as you have a right to YOUR opinion. Foster is still avoiding the obvious. He didn't earn the right nor did he resurrect the current ABs form but for Schmidt and Ryans' HELP. Foster is going wether we win the RWC or not so enjoy what's left of his tenure and let the rightful heir to the throne restore respect and confidence back to where it belongs In the hollow club rooms with a few beers and a well earned celebration of the game we love.
@@wiremu9876 You are biased and entitled because clearly you believe the All Blacks should never lose. And you don't rate highly other teams like England, Ireland, Argentina etc. Times have changed, youre still stuck in the same biases of the past where we thought Argentina or Ireland would've been a breeze. Even France.
And you're also biased towards Razor. Because you discredit Foster for everything he's ever done in the All Blacks coaching box since 2012. But highly rate Ryan and Schmidt who've never had the success he's had.
Ryan and Schmidt are great coaches. And if you rate them highly you should also rate Foster highly. But somehow just because Razor isn't head coach it measn Fozzie wasn't doing fuck all in the last decade where he's worked as the All Blacks attack and backs coach, and now head coach.
I bet if Wayne Smith also took on the job over Razor you lot will also discredit him of his coaching prowess just like Fozzie.
Don't mind Razor though he is a great coach.
Watching these past three test matchs to start off the year you can see Jason Ryan & Joe Schmidt's influence & improvements in the teams performances & unlike last year where they were literally thrown into the Lions den after the Abs lost three straight they had no time to prep whatsoever so having a whole campaign this time around of Super rugby to assess the players, discuss game plans & strategies with Foster & the other coach's & build on from last year Ryan has turned our forward pack into a formidable unit once again & Abs attacking plays & offensive systems & structures is all Schmidts influence & you can see it in the Abs attacking game though they still have so much more to improve on Abs are peaking just at the right time!
Our attack is still very much Foster oriented and he's twice the backs coach that Schmidt is. Schmidt's style of attack is possession based, rarely takes risks and slow and steady notably with his Ireland team.
Foster has always coached a free flowing attack but now with an improved kicking game. Foster's dual playmaking system is coming to fruition as well.
You are not about to compare Foster one of the best attack coaches of all time to Schmidt who's a decent coach but his Ireland attack was nothing compared to Foster's. Even at the last World Cup the All Blacks dismantled the Irish like it was nothing
@@ttoleafoa70 Foster the best attacking coach lol... so where was that attacking prowess last year when he lost a first ever home series to Ireland & a first ever home test to the Pumas loosing three in a row! Think someone's been on that glass pipe again lmfao! 🤭🤦🏻♂️🤣
@@Saiyan4eva Oh so where was Jason Ryan and Schmidt’s improvements then??? You see how dumb you sound😂
You act like Jason Ryan’s Crusaders didn’t lose games as well. Or his All Blacks forwards. You act like Schmidt was this all powerful force in rugby when Foster had his number heaps of times.
His attacking prowess is there when we won 4 Rugby Championships and 4 Bledisloes in a row as head coach.
His attacking prowess was there, when we won the 2015 RWC. 6 Rugby Championships with Hansen. The only undefeated year in rugby history in 2012. Never losing the Bledisloe.
So you’re just gonna ignore ALLLLLLL those achievements?? Lay off the pipe mate
Exactly they saved fosters bacon remember jordie is a 15 was fosters favorite saying I still think will Jordan should be 15 how going are they playing with out Cane
@@philliproberts7294 Jordie at 12 was Foster's idea. Nobody wanted Jordie at 12 let alone playing in the starting XV.
Foster's favored 15 has consistently been Beauden Barrett.
So don't lie please. And Will Jordan is already a world class winger. Set up in part by Beauden Barrett the secondary playmaker at fullback.
Will Jordan cannot fulfill that role Foster has placed at 15 to the same level as Beauden Barrett. Only Damian Mckenzie
The irish know schmit very well he spent years with leinster and Ireland and they have evolved since then .. Andy farrell coached under him for years...this ab team have the JS and Ryan stamp all over it...as proof look at Johnny sexton 42 phase drop goal in the rain in stad de France to win the game.
These guys are great. So down to earth and insightful. So much better than breakdown and just names
I don’t think there were really times where we didn’t look good. It was simply that Australia can put the heat on, just not for 80 mins. The all blacks had an excellent performance overall. Absorbed pressure well and lashed out on attack well. We were patient and built phases rather than coughing the ball up. All in all a high quality performance by the all blacks and we ramped it up in the last 20 which we hadn’t seen this year.
Ps. Love your analysis Bryn. The way you break down plays into understandable components is brilliant.
My RWC starting team:
1. de Groot
2. Taylor
3. Lomax
4. Retallick
5. S. Barrett
6. Frizzell
7. Cane (c)
8. Savea (vc)
9. Smith
10. Mo'unga
11. Telea
12. J. Barrett
13. Ioane
14. Jordan
15. B. Barrett.
16. Taukei'aho
17. Williams
18. Newell
19. Whitelock
20. Jacobson
21. Roigard
22. Leinert-Brown
23. McKenzie
Mine exactly the same. Tamaiti can cover both sides, Mackenzie can cover fullback wing and 10, lienert brown both centres and Jacobson the loose trio. It's a completely balanced side.
spot on. we need Mckenzie in the 23. We need to have forwards that can step up in the last 20 minutes, and Laulala and Ofa are not the answer. Whitelock coming off the bench will be devastating.
@@dane1056Great minds think alike bro😊
@@joshhudson7413Exactly bro, baffles me how the two Blues props consistently get game time 🤔🤔
Spot on, for starters, although I would start Sam and bring Brodie off bench, for bench the hooker is 16... and I still think we need Weber off the bench for his allround running game and experience
I agree Ryan and Schmidt are the differance , if Foster is responsible for getting those two guys then good move Plumtree and the other guy had not made any impression on the team . So a kick in the behind shook Fossie up to make a change , good for him
His first assistants were not his first line choices unfortunately
The appointment of ushering in Jason Ryan was the strong recommendation of NZR because of Scott Robertson's continued success with the Crusaders. If Jason Ryan factor has made an impact on the international test already, then that is proof that Razor will be and is successful for the All Blacks already even before the commencement of his tenure. The proof is in the pudding via Jason Ryan.
NZR intervened & changed coaches, Foster had little to do with it. Plumtree was his main man, personally selected. Foster, too, was on the verge of being sacked himself, but for a win v Boks. Thank goodness NZR stepped in.
@Tom_McMurtry nonsense, Plumtree was his main man from the word go, Schmidt too but he'd already ruled himself out, so he wasn't a realistic option back then.
@@Sunflower-dt6ev Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown were his top picks. You can read articles about it
Christie seems like a quality bloke! Can’t say I was his biggest fan but that’s has changed. Quality content like this gives you a good insight into how the players think and what they are actually like in person. Better than of the shit questions of traditional media.
Loving the show lads keep it coming! Great chat from Bryn to!
They still Need Shaun Stevenson and Damion Mckenzie
Foster has been shit on from day 1 and hes had 2 build a coaching team twice and rebuild a playing team after the 2019 world cup he definitely deserves some respect, most people would fold under that much pressure 👏
Exactly correct!
I agree but I still think the criticism was warranted at the time and most likely played a role in making them make the changes they have to regain success in such a short time. Now that they're back to where they should be it should be full support but let's be honest, any coach who puts their hands up to take charge of the ABs should absolutely know what will be flung their way if the results don't come. It may not be pretty at the time but that's what comes with coaching the ABs and it serves them well going by their history.
@@andrewlawson573 Foster had a support staff foisted on him. Now he has the team around him he wanted. Now we see the difference.
Ian Foster is awesome and even better since he brought Ryan and Joe on board
Good luck to the All Blacks
Let’s get the World Cup
Awesome ??🤣🤣🤣 the worst coach in the history. Crédit only To schmidt and Ryan who saved his job.
Worst coach in AB history 😂
Give enough credit to Foster, enough credit to Ryan, and enough Schmidt cos it's a collective effort.
If we put the blame to Foster cos of last year's disaster, we must commend Foster for the success the ABs are having atm.
No
Foster didn’t bring in Jason Ryan and Joe Schmidt.
He was told to make the changes.
He brought in Joe Schmidt
Because fozzies useless he needed a hand
@@TheRock90909 Every coach needs a hand. Steve Hansen needed Foster as his backs and attack coach
@@ttoleafoa70 no he didn't we had the goat team then fozzie was just a passenger like now
@@TheRock90909 How do you know he didn't need him? Just because you hate him? Hansen could've chose anyone hahahaha.
Fozzie was part of making that team a GOAT team he was the attack and backs coach. Steven Hansen specializes in the forwards
Love this pod, love the analysis
Great stuff by Hall!
On the Tupou injury, as the prop replacement if he went off (unless HIA) the scrums may be de-powered and if so Aus would be penalised by losing a player. On Foster, fairs fair, he took the pain and now well deserves some credit. It was a cunning plan, no pressure of again being the RWC favourites & with the ABs now peaking at the right time...
I don't see a series loss to Ireland and historic losses to Argentina as a cunning plan...
@@ShiNooBi1986 So cunning you could pin a tail on it.
Thanks to Jason Ryan and Joe Schmidt.
This commentator/analyst is REALLY great and well informed, argued
FANTASTIC!
The Professionalism and wording of Bryns analysis is impeccable.
Wow the vocabulary in discussing rugby has changed so much since i was playing. Animations, pictures, starter plays etc etc.
Viewer comment: Biggest changes, Jordie at 12, his size and directness and simplifying his game. He's moved away from trying to do too much. Also much better communication in midfield with it looking settled for the first time since Conrad/Nonu.
Go back to the rugby pass interview with Ben Darwin that you guys did. "never experiment with the centres going into a world cup".
I think even less complicated than that is having a 12 that knows their role in the communication and direction of the midfield defense and WANTS to tackle has made a huge structural difference. You can stick Enor/Rieko/ALB outside him and it works, the reverse however does not.
Note: Scooter is pushing his claim for world player of the year, but don't take your eyes off Jordie. He's got his mojo back. I've said it a million times and it's probably cost the ABs a world cup. If he was never lured away from Canterbury he'd have been the dominant 12 we've been missing for 4-5 years. If the ABs go deep and in a WC and either of those guys is MotM in a final. Tough to look past.
Spot on cobba!
What happens if Jordie gets injured?
@@ShiNooBi1986 watch the Ben Darwin episode. He explains the sport science behind why a steady (I would say elite) midfield is necessary to win a World Cup.
It can be a combo of 3 players but the systems and communication midfield is critical in whole game defensive patterns.
The ABs have lacked that because the 12 has been injured whether that’s been Havili or ALB for 3-4 years with no consistency.
If Jordie went down to injury, you’d need someone like Crotty (is he eligible playing ITM?) he’s been in top form and is fit from playing in Japan.
Excellent interview with Finlay, enjoyed the humor, comments from Bryn, on point as per usual.
Rest of you couch critique exponents, find a chill pill, if you go through life expecting us to dominate 100% of the time you will always be disappointed. Other countries focus on winning the world cup, we have a small community of kiwis and media who embarrass our country with their expectations and outspoken BS expecting and demanding we win every game. Here's little something for you lot after putting up with your expert comments over the years 🖕👎 Buenos dias hoa (came a hot friday for those who are scracthing their head) Billy T 😅
As a boks fan this AB team is lethal. I’ve never doubted them but I think there’s a lot of people who still do. Dark horses for the World Cup.
Because Hansen stuffed the team around between 2016 - 2019 and Foster took it to a whole new low.
@@Badmansband Another entitled fan. The All Blacks are still the most successful and dominant side between 2016 and now. They have won the vast majority of games against their opposition in that time.
All Blacks are the only team to have 1 loss in 2019 from all games and the whole country will view them as failures. And the 'new low' is the All Blacks winning 4 Rugby Championships and Bledisloes in a row with Ian Foster
@@ttoleafoa70 another Foster apologist.
@@Badmansband Another one of the Razor bandwagon. Razor is a good coach, and so is Fozzie. Two good coaches can co-exist.
The facts prove Fozzie is a good coach. Go into your shell now
@@ttoleafoa70 um, record losses to Ireland, Argentina, France, worst record since John Hart in '98, lowest ranking, no championship wins below test rugby and inky since Schmitt and Ryan came in have the team turned things around. Go back to la la land.
Excellent content as usual
He could not do it with the coaches he previously had to assist him , clearly Jason Ryan and Joe Schmidt are the answer to his now success .
It's call team effort every one has to put in , we are taught this from primary school to high school, regardless of we do not like this one or that one the bullshit does not stop .
How come the AB's did not play like they are now prior to Ryan and Schmidt taking on their rolls ?@@charlerscarter5859
Yes THE coach made those decisions IT'S HIS Responsibility. The team HE COACHS is looking Formidable .
His previous assistants weren't his first choices
The players have also matured , lots of things have contributed
Jason brought scotts playbook to the abs,schmidt organised the backs,the turn around on Jasons arrival was dramatic!!
Jason spent 11 years following Mike Cron around. He was his number one student. It shows
Just give the man his flowers, Schmidt wasn’t around during 2012-14 but they were a formidable backline.
@Tuhoeterra yeah but Wayne Smith was. The professor. I'll skip the flowers. He can have warm fish milkshake.
@@sambeckingsale2542 Wayne was at the chiefs until 2014...
@@Tuhoeterraneither was fozzie
The fact the average kiwi isn't talking about him is victory enough.
The New Zealand rugby fans play a big part in the current AB group transition Foster is a good guy needs more than just rugby to get his level of coaching higher. Good on you Fossie.
He is not the man for the job..the worst coach of the ABS in the history.
@@drisszyani3497He's a bloody good guy but !
What's he won at SR level? Nothing because he's shit
@@lauriecarter8931I don't care if he's a nice guy nice guys get nowhere in sports too soft
@@drisszyani3497he's a good coach and unfortunately didn't get his fist choice pick in assistants the first time around and people weren't receptive to a transition cycle in players and systems
Kiwis should be thanking Fozzy big time, the All Blacks normally peak in-between world cups. If the ABs had of beaten Ireland nothing would have changed but because they lost to Ireland he was smart enough to change his staff and now they are the envy of most teams
Rubbish losses are NEVER okay
Of course Fozzie deserves the credit. He put the coaching team together and he created his vision which so many in New Zealand whined about. If it had been Razor at the helm, doing his break dances, everyone would have been on their knees at his alter. Hope Razor does well but I feel that New Zealand Rugby has treated Fozzie terribly. I hope he wins the RWC and can shove that n their faces. He will not because Foster is certainly a gentleman. Maybe he will go coach England and save their debacle!
No, the team only got better when J.Ryan and Joe come aboard
So the variable is the assistants that left.
Fozzie is all good!
So if a business isn't doing well, the CEO fires two department managers and hires Two others, then the business takes off and males great improvements, the problems were all the CEO's fault but the success is because of the new guys??
Clearly. They saved his job.
@@ashleyholdem1161 no Fozzie Will stay the Worst coach in the history.
Foster never should have been the coach of the ABS. Stupid décision by the NZRU. Mark Robinson must go after the RWC.
Rylan and schmidt are the one deserving most of the credit
Ireland fan here..I said the same thing 3 weeks ago and I got all sorts of abuse.
The most important talent is to be able to use talent in others.
@@robertwalker1079 as a long time chiefs fan he had 7 years as head coach and didn't live up to it
@@robertwalker1079 and I don't think it was his decision to employ Schmidt and Ryan it was nzru
@@nicholasnorliffe46 notice I said use talent not hire it. I realise the contrast with Dave Rennie at the Chiefs but Hansen must have seen something in him.
Fozzy should understand that with losses comes a frustrated country. Ireland came in and bashed us around, it's understandable the public will be pissed off
WOW!! Ian is the man!!
Well done, Bryn. Nailed it!
It takes time to cultivatea Dream Team. Kiwis are blunt, harsh and unforgiving. My Father was on the NZRU and together with his best mate, Sir Tom Pearce, took the 1st mixed race AB Team to SA. I look at these pods today and think 'Do you actually KNOW anything at all?'
The AB'S won that game, imagine that NO Black Person was allowed into the stadium, just try to imagine that scenario. The reciprocal game was held in Mt Eden Stadium and NZ was so tiny at that time, the Stadium was sand-bagged, barbed wired and mini-matchbox toy army tanks were deployed. I witnessed all of this and as a child, it was quite scary. However, I've learned the art of fighting the opponent and the art of grace in defeat, and winning. Our AB's will go out there, en France, and Win.
Gotta love a halfbacks knowledge, they're right there in the middle of it all.
South Pacific Islanders certainly deserve much more credit
Why most are born in NZ not the islands
Stark truth and véry real
But together they make up a formidable unit❗️
Watching it from home i could see that Tupou was struggling and i thought that, that Eddi-it would have made the call to replace the player. A boxer if he is struggling in the ring a trainer will throw the towel in and surely Eddie-it could have done that aswell even if he's sitting up in his box seat..
He does deserve credit but it's the other coaches that have fixed the team
He brought them in!
No coach is an island. Hansen wouldn’t have done what he did without Foster.
Foster is a backs coach. He needs a good forwards coach like Ryan to help because Plumtree wasn’t picking up his part of the team.
@@ttoleafoa70 exactly correct! Schmidt is the tactician. Ryan forwards and Fozzie the glue that binds. Perfect mix.
@@zworm2 Fozzie is also a tactician. An underrated one at that and much better than Schmidt.
The attack he coached under Hansen was the gold standard, and the dual playmaking system that gave our playmakers more time on the ball under the rush defense is just examples of his tactical acumen. He’s much better than Schmidt has been
@@ttoleafoa70 Absolutely agree. Great minds like to parry with others. It is how they refine. What we see now is always a true threat in attack, centered around dominant mobile forwards. The Barretts and Richie at the core. It is beautiful to watch. Wingers constantly looking for work and ball. Caleb is great at that thundering forward play like Nonu used to do. Attracts 3 defenders, rarely fails to make the gain line. I could see him at 13.
All Blacks are doing better because the change to the coaching setup with (Former Irish Coach) Joe Schmidt and (Razor Scott Robertson's forward coach) Jason Ryan has definitely kicked in. It worked immediately last year after losing a series to Ireland but needed time for the effects of the coaching to really shine through. That's what we are witnessing now. Ian Foster and his former coaching team were on the road to nowhere along with the tarnishing of the All Blacks brand, history and legacy. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the naming of Scott Robertson as the next All Black's coach. Anyone get the feeling that the Razor effect is already having an impact already
Foster was already winning trophies before Ryan and Schmidt came on.
Don’t discredit Foster for the shortcomings of Plumtree in the forwards.
No coach can do it by themselves. Grahams Henry couldn’t have done it without Hansen. And Hansen couldn’t have done it without Ian Foster.
I don’t know why Foster gets so much disrespect after the dominant attacking displays he has put on throughout the 2010s up till now.
He’s been the attack and backs coach since 2012 and people suddenly deny his mark on NZ rugby and think Schmidt is better than him. Just because they want Razor in.
Razor is a world class coach and I don’t mind him but don’t tear down another legendary coach just because.
You lot are so entitled every loss you guys forget the numerous trophies Foster has contributed to
The ABZ did a job on the Australian front row scrum was that tight something had to give
Was disappointed to not see Jipp at first, but Bryna handled it really well.
box kicks are also used for exiting
I think that Ryan, then Schmidt were forced on Foster by NZR. He wanted to stick with Plumtree and Morar.
You always hear players and commentators / media etc only talk about Schmidt and Ryan.
Regardless, the team is going well and Foster is a part of it.
Mounga is in the same head space as Shaun Johnson in the Warriors. Its like they finally believe in themsleves and have come to the realisation they have the ability to control the game.
That's club stuff for warriors
We are talking internationally here different pressure
Prime Johnson = best rugby fullback in the world or history, he was built for running not game control
@@jdb9388 Disagree he's controlling the team... even the coach and teams mates have all spoken out that Shun leads the team around the park... he is not a runner any more lost his speed...
@@bittersweet340 his highlights speaks for itself, he moves better than Will Jordan at the peak of his abilities, his injury is what stopped him, but yeah any half can learn how to control game
@@jdb9388 Yes agree
If you are gonna criticise Fozzy when the team doesn’t perform it makes sense to me to praise him when the team does perform well. Go well Fozzy!
Fossi has help which is great 👍
22:55 last I checked we are in NZ where route is pronounced root. We're not fucken yanks yet Bryn.
JP: what would be YOUR starting pack (assuming a fit Blackadder, Moody, Newell) if you were obligated to pick a starting pack that will start EVERY single game at the WC.
Bryn: what would be YOUR starting backline (assuming a fit Havili and Fainganuku) if you were obligated to pick a starting backline that will start EVERY single game at the WC.
No excuses answers, no "if", no "it depends on the oposition", no "depends on the reserves"
Thanx for answerin. Still not sure thanx
Fozzie is a passenger carried and saved by Ryan and Schmidt
Imagine Webber, DMac, ALB, Enor, Narawa, Stevenson, and Leicester for a trail backline this weekend.
It's clear to me that Ryan and Schmidt have taken over the actual coaching and strategy, and Foster is just wheeled out as the PR person for interviews. If any of these improvements were Foster's idea, why are we only seeing them now instead of when he took over? The gameplan is completely different, and it's coming from coaches who were actually successful!
Ryan says he looks after the forwards , Joe says he looks after the attack , so are you saying they are doing more ?
Got any proof ?
@@camwells9726fozzie sucks end of story
His first assistants were not his first choices and it sounded like to me he was investing all of his efforts into trying to get them up to scratch rather than as his core role.
@@Tom_McMurtryhe picked them as part of his team for his application for the job.
@@camwells9726 No proof, just comparing with last year gameplan and results. Seems like these are the areas where our game has improved massively from last year. Irish-style ball retention and kicking strategy from Schmidt, with quick ruck ball and Crusaders-style defence from Ryan. Foster is probably busy cutting up the oranges for half-time...
Bryn Hall is the best analyst in the game. and he’s still playing 👑
Fck I love this show 👌🏾
Great player n just geetin better. Thanx finlay'
My 33 to RWC (no injuries🤞) would be:
Props-6 (De Groot, Lomax, Newelle, Williams, Laulala, Tua'agafasi)
Hookers-3 (Taylor, Taukei'aho, Cole)
Locks-4 (Barrett, Retallick, Lord, Whitelock)
Loosies-4 (Frizell, Blackadder/Finau, Cane, Papali'i)
No.8-2 (Savea, Jacobson)
HB-3 (Smith, Webber, Rougard)
Flyhalf-2 (Mou'nga, Mackenzie)
Centres-3 (Barrett, Ioane, ALB)
Wing-5 (Telea, Clark, Narawa, Jordan, Fa'iaganuku)
Fullback-1 (Barrett)
Jordan can cover FB n Leicester the centres.
Moody in for one of the Dorkland props. No Clarke. Instead an extra midfielder, probably Havili. Think Christie will get in over Webber. And Vaii over Lord.
I wouldnt have Ofa or Nepo
@@LegendaryWizball
Moody .past tense. moody and laulala = penalty in reverse
Bryn Hill supposed to be in the squad starting last year!
Yup well done Fozzy. I was one of the biggest haters. He deserves credit for this form and If he gets them even to the semi finals I will be happy.
Taking the draw and evolved professionalism in the northern hemisphere I would place an AB world cup win here the greatest ever.
Hope he learnt from last World Cup because our wingers were very green, not much experience in big pressure games and under massive pressure.
Leaving out an extremely experienced ‘Mr fix it’ Ben Smith out was a huge mistake.
As much as Ioane was struggling he and Smith would’ve been my wingers vs England.
1000% man. Couldn't believe Ben Smith wasn't in that game.
Nice to watch a sports show without a section trying to push the gay agenda. Great show cheers
Note to those who don't know: his previous assistants were not his first choices
Excuses
All blacks win 3 or 4 test on the trot and we still discredit Fozzie "love it 😅👍
Weber is a far better hb option then Christie for the upcoming rwc & should've been in the Championship squad in place of him & to be fair if anything ever happened to Smith, Christie is the last player you'd want to be starting in a world cup playoff game!
Cam Roigard looks better than them both - I'd like to see him start this weekend.
@@Marius_vanderLubbeRoigard is the future & no doubt will be the starting hb next couple years but Aaron Smith was phenomenal both tests against the Boks & Pumas & tbh would you really want to start an inexperienced hb who's only played one test in a world cup playoff? Yeah nah dont think so & Abs certainly wont...
I agree with that, but I saw enough from Roigard on the weekend to see him jump Christie as our #2. Christie is the best defender of all our halfbacks though and that could be important. Maybe that’s why he gets selected.
@@keza41 A halfbacks number 1 job is to have an accurate quick pass off the deck, a good running & box kicking game & organizing of the forwards & at the breakdown why Aaron Smith has been the best hb over the past decade as he does these things exceptionally & consistently well!
Nonsense go watch the SA game agian watch how well Christie deals with the Boks coming through the ruck and attacking the ball. Finlay did a great job there and saved us the game, I don't think Weber would have had the size to deal with that.
Absolutely, as a South African I am wondering what happens if the AB's win the World Cup ? He gets fired !
Foster has opted not to renew his tenor regardless of wining from now to even wining the RWC So hes handed in his notice not getting fired....
Razor is already booked in thank god
Of course foster deserves more Credit from,, Ireland and Argentina 😂😅
Arges have a passion can beat anyone if there off just a bit.
Yer id give gredit to foster changin few things like coaches. An even selections. Thanx.
Seeing the headline- short answer is No! He had hindered NZ rugby and only when his hand was forced did we get the set up right. He lost long held AB records and if there hadn't been injuries forcing his hand we may not have discovered Talea and Jordie wouldn't be 2nd 5. His claim that the ABs had some growing up to do reflects his ongoing inability to be accountable for poor performances. It's a flippant remark that's just bloody embarrassing. NZ rugby has also once again dropped the ball by focusing on Scott Robertson and not doing all they possibly could to retain Joe. I think Wayne Smith will be doing all he can to somehow retain Joe in NZ in some capacity but likely it's too late.
Joe is great but he will have no place in a new coaching team trying to introduce new culture and systems. NZR offered him a chance to work with Razor when Foster looked gone in SA but he turned that down saying he couldn’t work with him. So… see ya Joe.
Still, playing that dumb broken record, move on mate, I think some of us have had a enough crying over what Foster did, and didn't do. Get over it bro and look forward to the Rugby World Cup.
What a load of rubbish. There is so much assumption in your comment, it's not funny. It's as if you're sitting in the team meetings. I'm amazed NZRU isn't calling you about the job.
Joe is a close friend of fozzie and previously said he didn’t want to be part of razors team out of loyalty
Exactly the worst coach in AB history
Let's look at our opposition. Boks arges and aussie do look weaker this year. France Ireland and poms I think will be better.
Does Beating France in the Pool game mean anything?
Will France play possum again?
Playing possum is no advantage it just means you play a harder side in the quarters
Its Fosters gameplan the players continue to play to, so he gets credit according to me. Schmidt and Ryans tinkering in the playing group since their inclusion is night and day. Fosters henchmen are playing good footy atm.
You're clueless
@@unfiltered2 what about?
The game plan is clearly Schmidt and the work Ryan has done with our forwards is plainly obvious, Foster is a terrible coach and his SR record proves it not only that he dropped us to our lowest ever ranking and has had three historical defeats before these guys turned up. Truth is he should've been sacked after the loss to Argentina but NZR board members and CEO were too gutless to do so.
@unfiltered2 what are you talking about? Fosters been using that same gameplan since day dot. As I said, Schmidt and Ryans inclusion has seen them tinker a few technicalities within said gameplan. You talking non sense
@@porkbone42is that why he kept losing till Ryan and Schmidt came in?
Foster been carried since Ryan and Schmidt taken over.
Fozzie has had to deal with personnel issues that no ABs coach has had to deal with since pre Graham Henry. He has had to replace his: Entire front row, loose forward trio (except Ardie) Midfield combination and Back 3 since the 2019 world cup. Within all of that, while he has lost games he has won the RC, Bledisloe cup and Freedom cup every year, gone un beaten on a Northern tour and only lost 1 series to the Current number 1 side in the world, whilst basically rebuilding his entire team...... all with the whole country shitting on him from a great height. And he has done it, this team is certainly capable of winning the world cup in October.
He's done it thanks to Ryan and Shmidt
@@TheRock90909 people he brought in..... he got rid of the coaches that weren't performing, even the players have said they were struggling with those coaches. The players have supported Fozzie, but didn't support those coaches. So Fozzie made the right calls. Therefore should be getting credit, not more shit thrown at him.
@@jeremyviall4168 fozzie sucks end of story and excuses
@@jeremyviall4168I will never ever forgive that clown for tarnishing the AB legacy
@@TheRock90909 legacys cannot stand for ever. He lost 4 games in 4 years that really have any effect. 2 in NZ to Ireland and 2 to Argentina. Remember Ireland beat us for the first time ever under Steve Hansen.... every other loss we have had has been to teams that have beaten us before... and we have bounced back. Will he still be a clown ID we win the world cup....? Remember after the 2007 world cup Graham Henry was "The worst coach in all black history" and one of the most hated men in NZ.... 4 years later he gets Knighted for coaching us to a world cup win...
He deserves some credit sure but we all know who are responsible for the turn around in fortunes.
Crédit only To schmidt and Ryan which saved his job.
Our fortunes have always been good he’s never lost a tournament.
Besides. When we lost last year wasn’t Ryan coaching as well with Schmidt as an advisor.
@@ttoleafoa70 yeah, from memory they came in before the Irish series, they coached the ABs in the first test when Foster had Covid, we won that in a canter, Foster comes back in for the next two tests and well…. We all know what happened there.
@@keza41And the loss to South Africa and Argentina is that anything to do with Schmidt or Jason Ryan or it’s all on Foster?
You guys are hypocrites😂
@@ttoleafoa70fozzies fault
I dont care what fozzie is doing now hes already done the damage with all the unwanted records he broke with our talent any coach could coach the ABs and win now especially with Ryan and Schmidt there who are the ones who should be getting the credit
You really need to grow up.
Total flog
@@6fucyoutube whaaa?
But that's his ability ,to appoint specialist coaches ,it's not about him
There is a old boys network all know it. Thats rugby. But shit it had to change.
Shit yer cant wait till flips over for a try!
Foster credit? Credit for Jase Ryan and Joe Schmidt agreeing to join him. Look at their blue prints; Vs SA was the first time given up a lineout drive try since he joined , massive turnaround, Jase Ryan all over it, Crusaders Defence. Then look at the 20+ phases and then try, and the blindside attack, Schmidt DNA all over it. No coincidences here. Will only get back when Razor joins and brings a more "One team" culture, kick out some of the lingering bad habits, and players grossly out of position.
Got it in one James. Bring back Buck
I get people wanting Razor in but why lie and not give Foster any credit?
When the team loses all these Jason Ryan and Schmidt DNA goes out the window. When Fozzie was coaching the most dominant attack in history for years on end since 2012 where were you guys? Why not give credit to Fozzie then for helping us win multiple trophies with Hansen and now 4 Bledisloes and 4 RUGBY ChAMPIONSHIPS IN A ROW? It's just hypocritical. The way you give credit to Schmidt and Jase Ryan as assistant coaches you'd expect boundless more praise for Ian Foster because of his contribution to the ABs attack for the last decade.
Also where's the credit for his dual playmaking system? The kicking game that he's been trying to implement since 2019 to beat the Boks rush defense? Or are you only blind when it comes to that
@@ttoleafoa70he sucks and nothing will change my mind bring on the real coach Razorrr
"fozzie" was on the cusp of being fired.....now he's the second coming? C'mon, we all know it was Mark Robison that appointed Schmidt, who is making the difference.
Bryn in the same sentence says they will pick between Narawa, Clarke, and Leicester based on versatility, then says Clarke is in the running because he was versatile for being on the bench? Clarke can only play one position and is not even in the top 5 form wingers.
Will the Wallabies recall Jermaine Ainsley?
I hope not. Ainsley is better than both Tu'ungafasi and Laulala.
what do you expect them to say?
Not yet, but if does go on and win the cup he has every right to be smug about it.
Not fosters doing ,jason ryan all credit ,never seen forwards pass a ball in traffic like that, ever
"Ross Karl, what planet were you born on?"
"Or are you from the same rugby school as Eddie?"
That tackle wasn't a tackle, it was a 'BLANTANT ACT OF THUGGERY, IT WAS LATE, IT WAS TO THE PLAYERS HEAD, WITHOUT SHOWING ANY RESPECT TO THE PLAYERS' SAFETY. It certainly deserved 'A RED CARD 🟥.'
My statement is based on the grounds that, that injured player is 'HIGHLY REGARDED VALUED BY THE SPRINGBOKS?' Is going to miss the world cup.
We needed an attack coach.
Notice, when we let the ball go, out wide, we score.
Don't stop this.
Running back into the forward defence is BS.
Stop the box kicks.
Why give the ball away?
Let the ball go, or kick for territory
Foster is the attack coach. Has been since 2012
How much is euro pools paying him ?
According to the panel Fossie initiated the changes in appointing Smidt and Ryan. I disagree. He deserves no credit.
Never mind Toupou, Alatoa's injury shouldn't have happened either. The scrum was going backwards for quite some time before Barnes calls the advantage. If he had called it earlier then the scurm wouldn't have crumbled like it did and the injury doesn't happen.
Foster had no choice, he had to change his coaching staff or he would have got the heave ho himself. He's riding on the coat tails of Ryan and Schmidt, but who cares at this point as long as they keep getting better.
Riding on the coat tails? They’re a good team together.
Foster won 4 Rugby Championships and 4 Bledisloes in a row. And he only had them since last year.
People like you when the AB’s lost last year never blamed Schmidt and Ryan. Foster is only riding on their coattails when things are going well. Hypocrisy
@@ttoleafoa70 Interesting that you ignore referencing Foster losing a home series to Ireland and a home game to Argentina. Neither of those should have ever happened and can never be erased from a once near perfect record. They may well compliment each other but the fact remains that with the introduction of Ryan and Schmidt, foster looks a whole lot better than he did - otherwise they wouldn't have made him change his coaching staff. It was them or him and they went. Personally, I won't miss him when he goes. But as I said, who cares now as long as they keep improving.
@@Marius_vanderLubbe I don’t ignore that at all. But it just shows how entitled AB’s fans have become after the success that Foster has largely contributed to.
It wasn’t a near perfect record for years. You forget 1987 to 2011 the AB’s didn’t have a World Cup. And you also forget teams now are at a much higher level than they were back when that AB’s record was only really consistently challenged by Australia and the Boks.
You choose to ignore all the losses that Ryan and ESPECIALLY Schmidt has contributed to. But only put the microscope on Foster.
The fact is, coaches can’t do it on their own. Foster needed a good forwards coach. Just like how Hansen needed a good backs coach from 2012-2019 and he had Ian Foster handling the attack.
So idk how out of nowhere Ian Foster is shit. If Schmidt and Ryan ever had the CV and achievements Ian Foster had y’all would be licking their asses
@@Marius_vanderLubbeyes because fozzie refused to step down i lost respect for him after that
@@Trajan2401 Clarke in the ab's yes or no, Trajan?