Interesting to note the patrician Tories of the press greatly underestimating the resolve of Thatcher at 1:12:30. Bob McKenzie bangs on about Thatcher's weakness at 1:20:00. No doubt they all thought she'd be in power for one term only.
I get the feeling that the Davids (Dimbleby and Butler) were getting on each other's nerves at this point in the night, interrupting and talking over each other.
I actually think 1983 was a more historically important election: it confirmed Thatcher (who in 1979 was seen by many as an inevitable one-termer) for another term and for more reforms, it set the Labour Party on course for 'New Labour' and it showed that the SDP wasn't going to change the face of politics (largely due to the electoral system).
All night: "Our forecast is on the high side for conservatives." Forecast = 330 seats Actual Result = 339 seats for the conservatives! Reality: They were on the high side for Labour. Forecast = 277 seats Actual Result = 269 seats
1:28:00 - A little rarity for British television viewers in 1979, a breakfast television programme. In 1979 there was no breakfast television on British television, only at elections or special events. BBC 1 just had Open University at 6.40am-7.55am with Schools from 9.30am. ITV started at 9.30am each day. So this 7.00am "Breakfast Special" was special.
Callaghan should have resigned straight after the defeat, Foot would not have won any leadership election in 1979, and Healey would have won the leadership
I agree with you on that. The only thing is that it was a different time then. Nowadays the defeated leaders can't get off the stage quickly enough, like Miliband. But Kinnock went on a full parliament after losing in 1987, Heath went on after his defeat in 1974, Wilson continued after losing in 1970 etc.
@@hjyigo4759 What about Corbyn?? Absolutely no chance of winning anything but they kept him on. Acted like he won in 2017 then got destroyed in 2019. Labour are a joke !
Your country has a spate of Labour party members who should have been PM, Hugh Gaitskell, Denis Healey, all of them very old school and all of them very much the model Labour PM
The labour party of 79 is where it all properly started going down hill. For those thinking calaghan was an honest and principled man are living in dreamland. I seriously don't think he knew what he was doing half of the time. He seemed to spend more time abroad sunning it whilst the likes of healy were left to go rogue and create economic catastrophies. The torys should never have won 79 after the disastrous ted heath, but labour blew it big time thanks to in party fighting and self serving mps. We all now the damage that led Maggie to cause.
between WW2 and 1979 the UK had close to the slowest growth among advanced economies and close to the highest inflation. After 1979, up to the referendum, UK growth was above the W European average, and inflation came under control. Mrs T's leadership in bringing the unions under control was a key contribution to that. The share of manufacturing in output fell more quickly in the 1980s than elsewhere, but was relatively less bad in the 1990s. Those who claim that Mrs T destroyed manufacturing are talking rubbish; in the longer term it was bound to happen, as eg the Chinese came to dominate. In the same way coal was contentious then but we can see with 2020s eyes that it was always doomed.
Thanks for uploading. Great coverage of one the most important elections in UK history
James Callaghan gives a very dignified speech at his count, ahead of the heckler candidate
Interesting to note the patrician Tories of the press greatly underestimating the resolve of Thatcher at 1:12:30. Bob McKenzie bangs on about Thatcher's weakness at 1:20:00. No doubt they all thought she'd be in power for one term only.
I loved how the BBC closed out their coverage for the night, darkening the studio and only highlighting the winner.
I get the feeling that the Davids (Dimbleby and Butler) were getting on each other's nerves at this point in the night, interrupting and talking over each other.
I actually think 1983 was a more historically important election: it confirmed Thatcher (who in 1979 was seen by many as an inevitable one-termer) for another term and for more reforms, it set the Labour Party on course for 'New Labour' and it showed that the SDP wasn't going to change the face of politics (largely due to the electoral system).
Love it how all the other candidates walk off as Pat Aarronsmith makes her ranty speech
All night: "Our forecast is on the high side for conservatives."
Forecast = 330 seats
Actual Result = 339 seats for the conservatives!
Reality: They were on the high side for Labour.
Forecast = 277 seats
Actual Result = 269 seats
1:28:00 - A little rarity for British television viewers in 1979, a breakfast television programme. In 1979 there was no breakfast television on British television, only at elections or special events. BBC 1 just had Open University at 6.40am-7.55am with Schools from 9.30am. ITV started at 9.30am each day. So this 7.00am "Breakfast Special" was special.
Of course there was no breakfast TV. Jonathan Aitken hadn't invented it yet.
@@SnabbKassa Actually Ron Neil at the BBC would get British breakfast television going with the launch of BBC Breakfast Time in Jan 1983
This is great coverage, Dennis Healey one of the best Prime-Ministers we never had
Gotta love how whatsherbucket was so disturbing during Callaghan's speech that we couldn't get Skinner's return at 34:31.
Callaghan should have resigned straight after the defeat, Foot would not have won any leadership election in 1979, and Healey would have won the leadership
I agree with you on that. The only thing is that it was a different time then. Nowadays the defeated leaders can't get off the stage quickly enough, like Miliband. But Kinnock went on a full parliament after losing in 1987, Heath went on after his defeat in 1974, Wilson continued after losing in 1970 etc.
@@hjyigo4759 What about Corbyn?? Absolutely no chance of winning anything but they kept him on. Acted like he won in 2017 then got destroyed in 2019. Labour are a joke !
47:20 Devon North. THORPE OUT #woofwoof
Your country has a spate of Labour party members who should have been PM, Hugh Gaitskell, Denis Healey, all of them very old school and all of them very much the model Labour PM
David Mellor at 00:05:35
Keith Joseph, the monk of the party. Man was really one of the brainchilds of Conservatism in Britain, real conservatism.
What is "real conservatism"?
The prediction at 2:01:17 is almost correct Labour got 269(-2), Con 339(+2), Lib 11 (+1)
The Dog Lovers Party got 79 votes in North Devon!!
proof people hate dogs!
Lol someone laughs at Bill Boakes' 20 votes in Devon North 47:26
+DMG Gameplays Lmao the look they give is priceless
Look at Angela Rippon, coo what a sweetie !!
i miss robin day!
44:20 lmao
The labour party of 79 is where it all properly started going down hill. For those thinking calaghan was an honest and principled man are living in dreamland. I seriously don't think he knew what he was doing half of the time. He seemed to spend more time abroad sunning it whilst the likes of healy were left to go rogue and create economic catastrophies. The torys should never have won 79 after the disastrous ted heath, but labour blew it big time thanks to in party fighting and self serving mps. We all now the damage that led Maggie to cause.
between WW2 and 1979 the UK had close to the slowest growth among advanced economies and close to the highest inflation. After 1979, up to the referendum, UK growth was above the W European average, and inflation came under control. Mrs T's leadership in bringing the unions under control was a key contribution to that. The share of manufacturing in output fell more quickly in the 1980s than elsewhere, but was relatively less bad in the 1990s. Those who claim that Mrs T destroyed manufacturing are talking rubbish; in the longer term it was bound to happen, as eg the Chinese came to dominate. In the same way coal was contentious then but we can see with 2020s eyes that it was always doomed.
She saved the country
The beginning of this countries problems…
And of your spelling problems it would seem.
@@andrewrobinson8305 ooh a typo...shock horror... get a life! Try adding something interesting to the discussion! If you can...
Keep your hair on, it was just a light-hearted remark!