I'm still in that world where if a car ISN?T diesel I won't even look at it, better fuel consumption, better torque and more low down, what's not to like compared to a petrol car?
E-class looks better than 5 series, but the touch buttons on the doors and steering wheel are annoying. Took a C-class for test drive and could not close the door from the inside without messing with the touch buttons on them. Also managed to change the radio channel alot and cluster view while driving. So I would put my monney on team BMW (actually already did by ordering the X1 30e).
Thanks for the video Marek. I've never liked the rounded look of the Mercedes and I'm not a badge person so those big stars turn me off. I'm sure it's a very nice car but it appeals to a certain type of person I guess.
That seems to be a very nice car indeed for my retirement. Very expensive though and probably, being a Mercedes, quite expensive to repair out of warranty period. No doubt it will depreciate horribly.
MB: Fake exhausts and capacitive touch buttons are a deal breaker. BMW: everyday functions are buried deep inside their screen menu, even with short cuts you still need 3 steps to for example disable auto start-stop every time you start the car. Very disappointed with both options.
It's absurd that this is twice as expensive than a Model 3 LR, for twice as bad performance. For sure you don't get 45k euro more of a car for your money. No wonder why Tesla and the Chinese will run the Europe manufacturers to the ground. Such a shame. In the past there was clear difference that you were getting for your money, both performance and technology. 10-15 years ago only premium cars were offering adaptive cruise control and such advanced stuff, so it was a clear differentiatior. Now it's a joke.
@@MarekDrivesENG Not long enough to warrant the extra 45k euro. Regardless, over the life of the car, both cars will spend similar time charging/refueling, as ICE has to be refueled all the, even more so for city driving, while EVs charge during your sleep and you have to charge them only during long trips.
New Mercedes sedans have a huge problem, they're to low, touching the ground even at the smallest off bumps.....furthermore, I found the front seats to hard for a longer trip
I think that, objectively assessed, it is a very close call between today's E-class and the 5-series. It's mostly about personal preferences. The BMW is hardly as sport-oriented as previous generations have been and the Mercedes is more driver-oriented than previous generations. Personally, I like the design of the Mercedes and I think that the BMW has some unfortunate angles where it seems a bit bloated. Correspondingly also with the driver's environment and the dashboard. I'm not a big fan of BMW's new stand-alone screen. The way Mercedes has solved this seems more sophisticated in my opinion.
I drove the previous generation of both the Mercedes and BMW, I can say the Mercedes is far superior in comfort at high speeds and in town. I test drove the new 5 series last week, it didn't impress me. Adding to the awkward design, I will stick with my previous generation E class.
Thanks for this input. Personally, when I look back from to present I miss the build quality of w140 and w124. Yes people usually say this, but my point is why have fake exhaust tips, why cheap plastics. One would argue because of cost, but Mercedes Benz built their company most on engineering so why introduce or engineer materials that are cheap but of quality, let exhaust tips be exhaust tips. Let there be an option for real exhaust tips since the German companies like options. When look at these new Mercedes Benz cars I ask myself how much of Benz is in this car, I mean we have Renault engines in some of Mercedes Benz vehicles. And then there was the X Class. This is a nice car and I have respect for Mercedes Benz engineers and staff, as well as Renault’s. But I ask myself is this a Mercedes Benz with quality and reliability in mind, especially with reliability. And this question goes to all car makers, Wouldn’t a more reliable car be more sustainable to the environment and to maintain? I am a BMW fan but I do become concerned when several journalists point out BMW is use better quality materials than Mercedes Benz. Back in the I would happily point out Mercedes Benz car have better interiors. I cannot do that confidently now. Apologies if I have offended anyone but I think Mercedes Benz can do better. As for BMW some of their designs are questionable.
If you only compare 5-series & E class, the new E class is by far a better looking car. Regardless of target market, but even so, its elegance and beauty as we used to expect from Mercedes. Love the design of this new E !
Good review. You've confirmed that the Super Screen is a waste of money. Get the natural wood option because it's back light with either the Mercedes logo or AMG logo if you get the AMG. A more elegant solution and saves money.
Yes, diesel is ok. Diesel is OK for Hyundai SantaFe, diesel is ok for Hyundai Staria, diesel is ok for Mercedes Vito but diesel in the E-Class? I just don't get it. I do not have money for the E Class but I would assume that, if I could afford an E-Class, I would be able to pay for the petrol. The closer I was to buying a new sedan was the Citroen C5X and, if it would have had any good engines, most likely I would have bought it. The choice between the 1.2 3 cylinder turbo petrol and the 1.6 4 cylinder turbo petrol with PHEV just does not make sense for me and both of them ar bad for different reasons. The 2.2 HDI 204ps from back in the day would have been a perfect option. Even the 2.0 HDI 180ps would have been acceptable so yeah, diesel are good sometimes.
@10mbc it's not necessarily about the cost of fuel (which with high milage will add up), but about convenience. You know how EVs are sold on the basis that you don't need to visit the petrol station, because you can charge at home? Well, sometimes you have to visit a charging station, which sucks balls. And with this Merc you can drive from Berlin to Paris non-stop (if your bladder can take it), and not visit the petrol station either :)
Honestly I hate everything about new cars, all the warnings, chimes, touch buttons, massive screens etc. 2015-2019 was the peak of automotive design it seems. I'd much rather have a car from thah era, than a new one. Including an E-Class.
I'm team Mercedes, I've 2019 w213 300 de limousine, with 100.000 kms, love it, next June I'll change it for w214 300de station, for me diesel/electric is de best solution.
Why do these cars have to have such an excess of unwanted, un-needed 'aids'? So much more to fail. And the touch control buttons are now the VERY worst feature.....they truly are dreadful! Shape up Mercedes! We know how to turn a good old-fashioned knob!
Marek. I want a car with 17 Displays in front of me, coz 1 is not enough. I want a camera that is always watching me. And i definitely want a car, that has a 330 liter bootspace and weights 400kg more due to the battery that after the batteries are empty consumes way more petrol due to the weight. Where did we go to Marek?
This car's styling is very colour dependent. Basically it looks much better to me in darker colours. In lighter colours, the rather over-fussy nature of styling makes it look a bit dated. I've got a 2018 E class and I just love it's elegant, understated styling, which is why I've hung onto it for so long.
As a current e-coupe owner (29yo), I think this car is a lot better than the other new-gen Mercedes. I think it's a shame that the CLE has the shameful C-class interior. I don't particularly like the star taillights or the black plastic around the grille of the w214. I also hate the black plastic on the interior including the capacitive touch and off-the-shelf modules surrounding the seat controls. I think passenger displays are all useless gimmicks because they are obsolete with phones and iPads everywhere. They will not age well and take the place of the architecture and décor. Luckily you can get the wood in this car. I'm hoping they fix these things in the facelift - then I might consider buying an e450 with extended leather and no superscreen.
For me is one of the life mysteries, why OH WHY they keep putting those fake exaust holes, which looks more like some kind of storage compartment...Everybody hates them, auto journalists laugh at them, it costs money to make, but they keep doing it.
Amazing. In Poland EQE starts at 75k euro. Base diesel E-Class starts at 66k euro, and base PHEV starts at 73k for petrol PHEV, 75 diesel PHEV. Not only is it pointless to buy an EV, but also PHEV doesn't make much sense. Unless you work for a company, which needs to have eco credits for its fleet. But that's not going to be a Polish company :)
Definitely still worth it, if implemented well. These cars feel like a culmination of the ICE art -- surely as close to as good as it can get? Amazing range, great refinement, and decent fuel economy. I'm Team South East Asia -- I drive Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, but appreciate how opulent German cars can be.
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Long Live Diesel ❤
Very elegant car. Looks much better than the BMW. Great review!
I'm still in that world where if a car ISN?T diesel I won't even look at it, better fuel consumption, better torque and more low down, what's not to like compared to a petrol car?
Right on 👍
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E-class looks better than 5 series, but the touch buttons on the doors and steering wheel are annoying.
Took a C-class for test drive and could not close the door from the inside without messing with the touch buttons on them. Also managed to change the radio channel alot and cluster view while driving.
So I would put my monney on team BMW (actually already did by ordering the X1 30e).
Very well done review Marek! Your reviews are always informative for the livability of a vehicle.
Many thanks!
All is good but the price 100k??? is unbelievably high for the C segment and 2l diesel. Great video as always!!!
This is E segment actually.
Amazing car worthy of the 3 Pointed Star
the smile at 13.10, ahahaha.. say all about the car.
Finally Marek you dont review and EV, im sick of them.
Put in a refined diesel engine and you can have truly LONG range AND super-mini consumption in a 2 ton(?) luxury car! 😊
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So no spare wheel anymore.
Thanks for the video Marek. I've never liked the rounded look of the Mercedes and I'm not a badge person so those big stars turn me off. I'm sure it's a very nice car but it appeals to a certain type of person I guess.
You're even more dissatisfied with everything than I am. Slavs 🤣
@@MarekDrivesENG hahah. Bingo. Why is that cloud following me everywhere?
That seems to be a very nice car indeed for my retirement. Very expensive though and probably, being a Mercedes, quite expensive to repair out of warranty period. No doubt it will depreciate horribly.
MB: Fake exhausts and capacitive touch buttons are a deal breaker. BMW: everyday functions are buried deep inside their screen menu, even with short cuts you still need 3 steps to for example disable auto start-stop every time you start the car. Very disappointed with both options.
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DIESEL 4EVER
It's absurd that this is twice as expensive than a Model 3 LR, for twice as bad performance. For sure you don't get 45k euro more of a car for your money. No wonder why Tesla and the Chinese will run the Europe manufacturers to the ground. Such a shame.
In the past there was clear difference that you were getting for your money, both performance and technology. 10-15 years ago only premium cars were offering adaptive cruise control and such advanced stuff, so it was a clear differentiatior. Now it's a joke.
Please remind me, how many times to charge a TM3LR on a 1000 km (600 miles) road trip maintaining cruising speed 120-130 km/h?
@@MarekDrivesENG Not long enough to warrant the extra 45k euro. Regardless, over the life of the car, both cars will spend similar time charging/refueling, as ICE has to be refueled all the, even more so for city driving, while EVs charge during your sleep and you have to charge them only during long trips.
@@natoftw But thats what E class made for and always has, people who needs long distance in work.
@@kenneth61 Surely it's not only for those people, seems like a very limited market.
People buying E class would never consider aTesla. Rednecks like you need their brand too.
There's room for all of us.
New Mercedes sedans have a huge problem, they're to low, touching the ground even at the smallest off bumps.....furthermore, I found the front seats to hard for a longer trip
Team Mercedes all the way. Having worked with both BMW and Mercedes, I'll never buy a BMW 😅
Wow! What's happening at BMW that's so terrible? :)
Not mutch. I've worked with IT and Logistics for the past 11 years. Incompetence is mostly covered with: We are BMW!!!!
team mercedes, the nine speed transmission is unsurpassed.
So is diesel still worth it? What a useless review
I think that, objectively assessed, it is a very close call between today's E-class and the 5-series. It's mostly about personal preferences. The BMW is hardly as sport-oriented as previous generations have been and the Mercedes is more driver-oriented than previous generations. Personally, I like the design of the Mercedes and I think that the BMW has some unfortunate angles where it seems a bit bloated. Correspondingly also with the driver's environment and the dashboard. I'm not a big fan of BMW's new stand-alone screen. The way Mercedes has solved this seems more sophisticated in my opinion.
My thoughts exactly.
I think BMW dropped the ball by stopping production of the 530d.
It was one of the best cars available.
I drove the previous generation of both the Mercedes and BMW, I can say the Mercedes is far superior in comfort at high speeds and in town. I test drove the new 5 series last week, it didn't impress me. Adding to the awkward design, I will stick with my previous generation E class.
Thanks for this input. Personally, when I look back from to present I miss the build quality of w140 and w124. Yes people usually say this, but my point is why have fake exhaust tips, why cheap plastics. One would argue because of cost, but Mercedes Benz built their company most on engineering so why introduce or engineer materials that are cheap but of quality, let exhaust tips be exhaust tips. Let there be an option for real exhaust tips since the German companies like options.
When look at these new Mercedes Benz cars I ask myself how much of Benz is in this car, I mean we have Renault engines in some of Mercedes Benz vehicles. And then there was the X Class.
This is a nice car and I have respect for Mercedes Benz engineers and staff, as well as Renault’s. But I ask myself is this a Mercedes Benz with quality and reliability in mind, especially with reliability. And this question goes to all car makers, Wouldn’t a more reliable car be more sustainable to the environment and to maintain?
I am a BMW fan but I do become concerned when several journalists point out BMW is use better quality materials than Mercedes Benz. Back in the I would happily point out Mercedes Benz car have better interiors. I cannot do that confidently now.
Apologies if I have offended anyone but I think Mercedes Benz can do better. As for BMW some of their designs are questionable.
@@MarekDrivesENGby the way, nice review.
Mercedes is just on another level❤
If you only compare 5-series & E class, the new E class is by far a better looking car. Regardless of target market, but even so, its elegance and beauty as we used to expect from Mercedes. Love the design of this new E !
brilliant review!
The silicon valley dashboard is tech overkill and loses the luxury vibe of the previous e class. I'm sure it drives well but I'd buy a Toyota
Actually in the previous gen E-Class regular dash was a rarely seen trim choice.
@@MarekDrivesENG I was referring to the mega screens, not the driver display. Of course a normal infotainment screen is needed, but not this thing
Good review. You've confirmed that the Super Screen is a waste of money. Get the natural wood option because it's back light with either the Mercedes logo or AMG logo if you get the AMG. A more elegant solution and saves money.
Team Lexus 😊
Yes, diesel is ok. Diesel is OK for Hyundai SantaFe, diesel is ok for Hyundai Staria, diesel is ok for Mercedes Vito but diesel in the E-Class? I just don't get it. I do not have money for the E Class but I would assume that, if I could afford an E-Class, I would be able to pay for the petrol. The closer I was to buying a new sedan was the Citroen C5X and, if it would have had any good engines, most likely I would have bought it. The choice between the 1.2 3 cylinder turbo petrol and the 1.6 4 cylinder turbo petrol with PHEV just does not make sense for me and both of them ar bad for different reasons. The 2.2 HDI 204ps from back in the day would have been a perfect option. Even the 2.0 HDI 180ps would have been acceptable so yeah, diesel are good sometimes.
It´s very simple, E-class its very biased at people who has it as workplace and also taxi. So it´s long distance traweller, therefore diesel.
@10mbc it's not necessarily about the cost of fuel (which with high milage will add up), but about convenience. You know how EVs are sold on the basis that you don't need to visit the petrol station, because you can charge at home? Well, sometimes you have to visit a charging station, which sucks balls. And with this Merc you can drive from Berlin to Paris non-stop (if your bladder can take it), and not visit the petrol station either :)
Honestly I hate everything about new cars, all the warnings, chimes, touch buttons, massive screens etc. 2015-2019 was the peak of automotive design it seems. I'd much rather have a car from thah era, than a new one. Including an E-Class.
I agree. Cars peaked at Mk7 Golf.
It's just beautiful
The Diesel Plug-in Hybrid (E300de) is nice in the All Terrain variant.
Sexy looking car. It's on the very edge of the size of car I enjoy driving. Diesel is a known quantity, electric not so much.
Good review of a nice car that not many of us regular folks could or would buy. Nice to see nice to forget.
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm team Mercedes, I've 2019 w213 300 de limousine, with 100.000 kms, love it, next June I'll change it for w214 300de station, for me diesel/electric is de best solution.
“I don’t want to change this for another press car for a long time” - kinda sums it up! Very nice review. Thanks. G.
Why do these cars have to have such an excess of unwanted, un-needed 'aids'? So much more to fail. And the touch control buttons are now the VERY worst feature.....they truly are dreadful! Shape up Mercedes! We know how to turn a good old-fashioned knob!
Merc is for people who just drive, BMW is for people who enjoy driving.
😃. I'll like the over 1000 km range. You made it very clear that you're surprised by it's comfort. This would much appeal to me. 😌👌✨
Does you bladder last 1000kms? 😂
@@fmsantoscar 😃. How did you know? 🔥
Marek. I want a car with 17 Displays in front of me, coz 1 is not enough. I want a camera that is always watching me. And i definitely want a car, that has a 330 liter bootspace and weights 400kg more due to the battery that after the batteries are empty consumes way more petrol due to the weight. Where did we go to Marek?
Team Mercedes
This car's styling is very colour dependent. Basically it looks much better to me in darker colours. In lighter colours, the rather over-fussy nature of styling makes it look a bit dated. I've got a 2018 E class and I just love it's elegant, understated styling, which is why I've hung onto it for so long.
As a current e-coupe owner (29yo), I think this car is a lot better than the other new-gen Mercedes. I think it's a shame that the CLE has the shameful C-class interior. I don't particularly like the star taillights or the black plastic around the grille of the w214. I also hate the black plastic on the interior including the capacitive touch and off-the-shelf modules surrounding the seat controls. I think passenger displays are all useless gimmicks because they are obsolete with phones and iPads everywhere. They will not age well and take the place of the architecture and décor. Luckily you can get the wood in this car. I'm hoping they fix these things in the facelift - then I might consider buying an e450 with extended leather and no superscreen.
Proud member of reliable Toyota-Lexus brand..
Which team do you think I’m in Marek? 😂
Raw edges around the trunk mechanism? Saw the same thing on the 5. Nope, pushed it too far.
I still prefer Subaru Outback.
For me is one of the life mysteries, why OH WHY they keep putting those fake exaust holes, which looks more like some kind of storage compartment...Everybody hates them, auto journalists laugh at them, it costs money to make, but they keep doing it.
I like them 😊
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Your reviews are such high quality. Deserves more subs IMO. Keep it up!
Thanks!
I'm here for the long game :)
No. Here in Denmark you can buy an EQE cheaper than this one here..
I bet you can. In Poland they try to make the EVs at least not much more expensive than ICE, but you really have to want one :)
@@MarekDrivesENG Here a Polo 1.0 tsi with 95 hp is more expensive than a Tesla Model 3.
And for the W214 here, the plug-in hybrid with all the equipment you can think of is 30.000 euro cheaper than the basic diesel version..
Amazing.
In Poland EQE starts at 75k euro. Base diesel E-Class starts at 66k euro, and base PHEV starts at 73k for petrol PHEV, 75 diesel PHEV.
Not only is it pointless to buy an EV, but also PHEV doesn't make much sense. Unless you work for a company, which needs to have eco credits for its fleet. But that's not going to be a Polish company :)
€1200 per year in just car tax for this diesel in Sweden. No thanks!
You can thank your government.
The car while expensive its not ludicrous expensive as most cars today!
Definitely still worth it, if implemented well. These cars feel like a culmination of the ICE art -- surely as close to as good as it can get? Amazing range, great refinement, and decent fuel economy. I'm Team South East Asia -- I drive Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, but appreciate how opulent German cars can be.
As a 2016 diesel Mondeo owner, I can firmly say "no". Diesel is not worth it at all.
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