Peter refers to himself as “sympresbyteros” which means “fellow elder”. In this reference, Peter establishes a “collegiality” with the elders and demonstrates a level of humility uncharacteristic of Peter of the Gospels.
If Peter was the Pope. Christianity today would be more like Messianic Judaism. It's clear in the New Testament that Peter was in the camp that Gentiles needed to convert to Jewish Customs (Abstain from Pork, Circumcision, keeping the Sabbath etc) While Paul was in the Camp that the only requirement is the Faith in Jesus as the Messiah
Hopefully you read this, but you are mistaken. First when Peter was called to Cornelius house who was a gentile acts 10:15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common. The council of Jerusalem everyone was having a big discussion on circumcised. As a fact Paul and barnabas had a problem in Antioch so they went to Jerusalem because they had no clear answer. At Jerusalem they had the same problem till Peter stood up Acts 15: 7-10 . 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear You’re welcome, your humble Catholic.
And we see the correction coming in Acts, as he is given a vision about the "unclean" foods being perfectly OK to eat. We also see that the apostles tell the Christians the only rules they need to follow is to abstain from sexual immorality and meat served to idols. In addition Paul even squares of with Peter for the sin of what we today would call discrimination.
So why exactly did the Pope office not have supremacy until after the 5th century because look at the council of nicea The Bishop of Rome wasn't heading the council he wasn't making the final decisions where you guys getting this idea that the pope was the head of the church? The Pope is invented it's the bishop of Rome and he is not the head of the church there is no head of the church that is on earth but Jesus
Galatians 1:6-7 ESV I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- [7] not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, [9] not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
What Jesus really meant by “on this rock I will build My church” So, was Jesus really building the Church on Peter (and his successors) in Matthew 16:18? Let’s look more closely at the verse. Understanding this passage in its original language, Greek, provides the key to understanding what Christ meant. Jesus used a wordplay that isn’t clear when read in English. First, Jesus used the word Petros when referring to Peter: “I also say to you that you are Peter [Petros].” He then used a similar-sounding word to describe what He was building His Church on: Petra. “And on this rock [petra] I will build My church.” So, Christ’s statement actually reads like this: “I also say to you that you are Petros, and on this petra I will build My Church.” Peter’s given name was Simon Bar-Jonah, but Christ had given him the nickname Cephas-an Aramaic word meaning “A Stone” (John 1:42). Petros in Matthew 16:18 is the Greek form of the nickname. The meaning of both Cephas and Petros is the same: “a fragment, a stone.” The closest English words to petros would be pebble, stone or small rock. The second word Christ used was petra. This word also means rock, but it represents “a mass of rock” (ibid.). This word could be translated as boulder-an immovable mass. Had Christ intended to describe Peter, all He needed to say was: You are Peter and on you I will build My Church. But He didn’t say that. He distinguished the rock (petra) He was building the Church on from Peter (petros). The rock He was building His Church on was a rock big enough to serve as the chief cornerstone in the foundation; it was large, strong and immovable. This describes none other than Jesus Christ Himself! The rest of the Bible clearly identifies Jesus as this rock. Jesus is called “the chief cornerstone” seven times in the New Testament (Matthew 21:42; Mark 12:10; Luke 20:17; Acts 4:11; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6-7). In 1 Corinthians 10:4 the apostle Paul refers to Christ as “that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.” Jesus was not only the chief cornerstone, He is still the active “head of the body, the church” (Colossians 1:18; see also Ephesians 5:23). Christ did establish offices in His Church (Ephesians 4:11), but the Bible instructs those who hold offices of leadership to remain faithful to Christ’s teachings (1 Corinthians 11:1). Even Peter himself-far from claiming the authority some believe he was given-taught plainly that Christians “should follow His [Christ’s] steps” (1 Peter 2:21). Interestingly the same word, the same metaphor is used way back in Matthew chapter 7. "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. [25] And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Not only that but what about the keys. Did Jesus Christ only give Peter keys to the kingdom ? Matthew 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." Let's see, where else does it talk about this. Matthew 18:15-18 "If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. [16] But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. [17] If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. [18] Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. Here He's talking about the body of believers, the church.
Nice lie, that only you believe , Jesus is the corner stone no doubt, but Peter is the rock. Jesus is the head of the church, but Jesus left someone in charge , and he sent him the Holy Spirit. , who will guide his church. Let’s play Bible interpretation then. Yet, though your greatness terrifies me, your kindness attracts me. From the priest I demand the safe-keeping of the victim, from the shepherd the protection due to the sheep. Away with all that is overweening; let the state of Roman majesty withdraw. My words are spoken to the successor of the fisherman, to the disciple of the cross. As I follow no leader save Christ, so I communicate with none but your blessedness, that is with the chair of Peter. For this, I know, is the rock on which the church is built! Matthew 16:18 This is the house where alone the paschal lamb can be rightly eaten. Exodus 12:22 This is the Ark of Noah, and he who is not found in it shall perish when the flood prevails. Jerome - Letter To Pope Damasus There is no difference of meaning, I acknowledge, between the two Greek words petros and petra" (John Calvin, Commentary on Matthew, Mark, and Luke, vol. 2, pg. 295) Protestant scholar D.A. Carson notes: Although it is true that petros and petra can mean "[small] stone" and "[large] rock" respectively in earlier Greek, the distinction is largely confined to poetry. Moreover the underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kêphã' was used in both clauses ("you are kêphã' and on this kêphã"), since the word was used both for a name and for a "rock." The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses. The Greek makes the distinction between petros and petra simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine petra could not very well serve as a masculine name (The Expositor's Bible Commentary on Matt. 16:18). He further notes: "Had Matthew wanted to say no more than that Peter was a stone in contrast with Jesus the Rock, the more common word would have been lithos ("stone" of almost any size). Then there would have been no pun-and that is just the point!" (ibid.). J.N.D. Kelly, the Anglican scholar writes in his book Early Christian Doctrines, Peter was the undisputed leader of the early church. And I've cited other Protestants who believe this as well in my book, The Case for Catholicism. Where they will have trouble, and I think this is where Gavin and others have come forward. They'll say, "Well, where does the Bible teach, where is the evidence that Peter had an office of leadership that would endure perpetually?" It's one thing, Peter is the rock on which the church is built. It is another, however, to say that whatever authority was given to Peter in the early church, that authority continued with successors. So, that is what we're going to talk about today. And to help us do that is one of the brightest people working on the papacy today, his name is Suan Sonna. He is an undergrad in philosophy at Kansas State University. Herman Ridderbos Contemporary Dutch Reformed "It is well known that the Greek word petra translated 'rock' here is different from the proper name Peter. The slight difference between them has no special importance, however. The most likely explanation for the change from petros ('Peter') to petra is that petra was the normal word for 'rock.' ... There is no good reason to think that Jesus switched from petrosto petrato show that he was not speaking of the man Peter but of his confession as the foundation of the Church. The words 'on this rock [petral' indeed refer to Peter" [Bible Student's Commentary: Matthew, 303]. If you want more Protestant scholar interpretations. I have plenty more.
Do you believe that the Earth is fixed immovable? Do you believe that God put the sun moon and stars in the firmament on day four? Do you believe that God stopped the sun and moon for Joshua for a day? If not then you don't believe the bible.
1 Peter 5:11 You can think what you want to think. First of this goes hand in hand with Matthew 23:12 just saying to stay humble, also like a great elder he is modeling on how to be, lead by example. Please try harder. I like the effort, but the rock argument was a little better than this.
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty” Pope Leo 13th Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894. “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter 27, p. 218, "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth.” - Quoted in the New York Catechism. “The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God. and the vicar of God.” - Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary
Nonsense. This proves nothing. One of the official titles of the Pope is "servant of servants. Stop the propaganda. You are clearly misreading Scripture
Latin wouldn't make it clearer. What Voodie quotes is Peter's insructions to the others. Clearly this shows Peter in a leadership role, not vice versa. Notice that Voodie doesn't quote anything else to substantiat his othe claims about Peter because they don't exist. Read Acts ansld see for yourself. When Paul needs clarification, he goes to Peterr@@samuelgrizzle5141
@@samuelgrizzle5141 Latin doesn't clarify the matter. The quote Voodie uses actually shows Peter giving instructions to the others. How does that prove his point? It doesn't! It proves that Peter is exercising authority over the others. Then Voodie makes some claims but, doesn't offer any verses to substantiate because they don't exist. Read Acts. Whenever Paul needs direction, he goes to Peter.
@@richardounjian9270Once the Frankish King Pepin the Short donated lands to the Bishop of Rome, he started acting like a psychopathic egomaniac antichrist.
@@richardounjian9270Peter was not the pope bro but let’s just say he was the first pope , Peter showed humility told many people to get up when they bow to him then said Iam a man just like You , unlike what the pope is today where y’all idolize a whole human like he’s God , but even so Peter was married had a whole wife , to claim Peter was the first pope if he really was so. why does every other pope not do what Peter actually did
Jesus replied and said that were my rock and upon you I shall build the church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her whatever you bind in heaven is is bound in heaven whatever you don't is not
He does not say upon YOU. In Greek there is 2 different words used in Matthew 16 1. Petros which means piece of rock or a smaller rock and 2. Petra which means larger rock or bedrock. So taking that into account what Jesus says in this passage is: " you are petros (small rock) and on this Petra (big rock) I will build my church." The rock on which the church is built is Peter's statement that Jesus is the Messiah and the son of the living God and that anyone living on that statement and rock is part of the church. But now if we were to assume that the church was built on Peter (even though that would be grammatically incorrect) it is much too far of a jump to now claim he is the pope with infallible statements that comes from nowhere! If he was the rock then he was just one of the main early church leaders (which he was) not infallible.
The current pope promotes lgbt lifestyles and aethism. And he also sucks up to Islam. If the postion of pope where the actual mouthpiece and representative of God, then they'd never promote such heresies. Christ is the head of the church, not some sinful man.
Peter was never in Roman he was an apostle to the Jews Paul was the apostle in Roman and to the gentles. In all Paul's writings he never ever mentioned Peter but he talked about Timothy, Barnabas, Silas, John Mark and others.
If you read Dr Bart D Herman book on revelation he points out that Babylon was used for Rome, Several scholars have always pointed out Babylon code name for Rome.
Well, they would have you read certain church fathers. Then we have the problem of the RCC Vatican & Jesuits manipulating truth & history. The jesuits were known for writing forgeries. The only sure thing we have is GODS Word which he inspired by the use of man & HE canonized correctly by men.
This is incorrect. The church fathers attest to Peter being the leader of the church or Rome. Also, Paul mentions Peter in some of his epistles. Galatians 2 for example.
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Peter refers to himself as “sympresbyteros” which means “fellow elder”. In this reference, Peter establishes a “collegiality” with the elders and demonstrates a level of humility uncharacteristic of Peter of the Gospels.
If Peter was the Pope. Christianity today would be more like Messianic Judaism.
It's clear in the New Testament that Peter was in the camp that Gentiles needed to convert to Jewish Customs (Abstain from Pork, Circumcision, keeping the Sabbath etc)
While Paul was in the Camp that the only requirement is the Faith in Jesus as the Messiah
Hopefully you read this, but you are mistaken. First when Peter was called to Cornelius house who was a gentile acts 10:15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.
The council of Jerusalem everyone was having a big discussion on circumcised. As a fact Paul and barnabas had a problem in Antioch so they went to Jerusalem because they had no clear answer. At Jerusalem they had the same problem till Peter stood up
Acts 15: 7-10
. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear
You’re welcome, your humble Catholic.
And we see the correction coming in Acts, as he is given a vision about the "unclean" foods being perfectly OK to eat. We also see that the apostles tell the Christians the only rules they need to follow is to abstain from sexual immorality and meat served to idols. In addition Paul even squares of with Peter for the sin of what we today would call discrimination.
So why exactly did the Pope office not have supremacy until after the 5th century because look at the council of nicea The Bishop of Rome wasn't heading the council he wasn't making the final decisions where you guys getting this idea that the pope was the head of the church? The Pope is invented it's the bishop of Rome and he is not the head of the church there is no head of the church that is on earth but Jesus
Galatians 1:6-7 ESV
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- [7] not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, [9] not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Where is this full sermon?
1 Peter 5 1
Anyone got the entire sermon link?
What Jesus really meant by “on this rock I will build My church”
So, was Jesus really building the Church on Peter (and his successors) in Matthew 16:18? Let’s look more closely at the verse.
Understanding this passage in its original language, Greek, provides the key to understanding what Christ meant. Jesus used a wordplay that isn’t clear when read in English. First, Jesus used the word Petros when referring to Peter: “I also say to you that you are Peter [Petros].” He then used a similar-sounding word to describe what He was building His Church on: Petra. “And on this rock [petra] I will build My church.”
So, Christ’s statement actually reads like this: “I also say to you that you are Petros, and on this petra I will build My Church.”
Peter’s given name was Simon Bar-Jonah, but Christ had given him the nickname Cephas-an Aramaic word meaning “A Stone” (John 1:42). Petros in Matthew 16:18 is the Greek form of the nickname. The meaning of both Cephas and Petros is the same: “a fragment, a stone.” The closest English words to petros would be pebble, stone or small rock.
The second word Christ used was petra. This word also means rock, but it represents “a mass of rock” (ibid.). This word could be translated as boulder-an immovable mass. Had Christ intended to describe Peter, all He needed to say was: You are Peter and on you I will build My Church.
But He didn’t say that.
He distinguished the rock (petra) He was building the Church on from Peter (petros). The rock He was building His Church on was a rock big enough to serve as the chief cornerstone in the foundation; it was large, strong and immovable. This describes none other than Jesus Christ Himself!
The rest of the Bible clearly identifies Jesus as this rock. Jesus is called “the chief cornerstone” seven times in the New Testament (Matthew 21:42; Mark 12:10; Luke 20:17; Acts 4:11; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6-7). In 1 Corinthians 10:4 the apostle Paul refers to Christ as “that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.”
Jesus was not only the chief cornerstone, He is still the active “head of the body, the church” (Colossians 1:18; see also Ephesians 5:23). Christ did establish offices in His Church (Ephesians 4:11), but the Bible instructs those who hold offices of leadership to remain faithful to Christ’s teachings (1 Corinthians 11:1). Even Peter himself-far from claiming the authority some believe he was given-taught plainly that Christians “should follow His [Christ’s] steps” (1 Peter 2:21).
Interestingly the same word, the same metaphor is used way back in Matthew chapter 7.
"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. [25] And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock.
Not only that but what about the keys. Did Jesus Christ only give Peter keys to the kingdom ?
Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
Let's see, where else does it talk about this.
Matthew 18:15-18
"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. [16] But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. [17] If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. [18] Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
Here He's talking about the body of believers, the church.
Nice lie, that only you believe , Jesus is the corner stone no doubt, but Peter is the rock. Jesus is the head of the church, but Jesus left someone in charge , and he sent him the Holy Spirit. , who will guide his church. Let’s play Bible interpretation then.
Yet, though your greatness terrifies me, your kindness attracts me. From the priest I demand the safe-keeping of the victim, from the shepherd the protection due to the sheep. Away with all that is overweening; let the state of Roman majesty withdraw. My words are spoken to the successor of the fisherman, to the disciple of the cross. As I follow no leader save Christ, so I communicate with none but your blessedness, that is with the chair of Peter. For this, I know, is the rock on which the church is built!
Matthew 16:18 This is the house where alone the paschal lamb can be rightly eaten. Exodus 12:22 This is the Ark of Noah, and he who is not found in it shall perish when the flood prevails.
Jerome - Letter To Pope Damasus
There is no difference of meaning, I acknowledge, between the two Greek words petros and petra" (John Calvin, Commentary on Matthew, Mark, and Luke, vol.
2, pg. 295)
Protestant scholar D.A. Carson notes:
Although it is true that petros and petra can mean
"[small] stone" and "[large] rock" respectively in earlier Greek, the distinction is largely confined to poetry. Moreover the underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kêphã' was used in both clauses ("you are kêphã' and on this kêphã"), since the word was used both for a name and for a "rock." The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses.
The Greek makes the distinction between petros and petra simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine petra could not very well serve as a masculine name (The Expositor's Bible Commentary on Matt. 16:18).
He further notes: "Had Matthew wanted to say no more than that Peter was a stone in contrast with Jesus the Rock, the more common word would have been lithos ("stone" of almost any size). Then there would have been no pun-and that is just the point!" (ibid.).
J.N.D. Kelly, the Anglican scholar writes in his book Early Christian Doctrines, Peter was the undisputed leader of the early church. And I've cited other Protestants who believe this as well in my book, The Case for Catholicism. Where they will have trouble, and I think this is where Gavin and others have come forward. They'll say, "Well, where does the Bible teach, where is the evidence that Peter had an office of leadership that would endure perpetually?" It's one thing, Peter is the rock on which the church is built. It is another, however, to say that whatever authority was given to Peter in the early church, that authority continued with successors. So, that is what we're going to talk about today. And to help us do that is one of the brightest people working on the papacy today, his name is Suan Sonna. He is an undergrad in philosophy at Kansas State University.
Herman Ridderbos
Contemporary Dutch Reformed
"It is well known that the Greek word petra translated 'rock' here is different from the proper name Peter. The slight difference between them has no special importance, however.
The most likely explanation for the change from petros ('Peter') to petra is that petra was the normal word for 'rock.'
... There is no good reason
to think that Jesus switched from petrosto petrato show that he was not speaking of the man Peter but of his confession as the foundation of the Church.
The words 'on this rock [petral' indeed refer to Peter" [Bible Student's Commentary: Matthew, 303].
If you want more Protestant scholar interpretations. I have plenty more.
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm The CC is built on a sinful man. From the inquisition to billions in abuse payout in the US, the CC is a s vile as one can get.
How about proper exegetical hermeneutics !
what are those verses?
1 Peter 5
How dare we deny someone who has been chosen by Jesus to keep the keys, hold authority and to look after the flock?
Jesus is THE DOOR
Do you believe that the Earth is fixed immovable? Do you believe that God put the sun moon and stars in the firmament on day four? Do you believe that God stopped the sun and moon for Joshua for a day?
If not then you don't believe the bible.
Amen
I do
1 Peter 5:11
You can think what you want to think. First of this goes hand in hand with Matthew 23:12 just saying to stay humble, also like a great elder he is modeling on how to be, lead by example. Please try harder. I like the effort, but the rock argument was a little better than this.
I agree, Jesus is our rock not Peter the pebble, Voddie speaks 90% truth with 10% false doctrines.. he’s also a calvanist.. therefore a false teacher
"THEY WERE NOT CALLED BY THY NAME"
Bad argument, yes the Pope is a servant, and fellow bishop. Every good leader is a servant of his fellow man.
Nope, Pope claims to be God.
@@Shockwave-c9n really please provide the reference.
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty”
Pope Leo 13th Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894.
“The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.”
Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter 27, p. 218,
"The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth.”
- Quoted in the New York Catechism.
“The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God. and the vicar of God.”
- Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty”
Pope Leo 13th Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894.
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.”
Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter 27, p. 218,
Nonsense. This proves nothing. One of the official titles of the Pope is "servant of servants. Stop the propaganda. You are clearly misreading Scripture
Should he say it in latin then tell you what it means?
Latin wouldn't make it clearer. What Voodie quotes is Peter's insructions to the others. Clearly this shows Peter in a leadership role, not vice versa. Notice that Voodie doesn't quote anything else to substantiat his othe claims about Peter because they don't exist. Read Acts ansld see for yourself. When Paul needs clarification, he goes to Peterr@@samuelgrizzle5141
@@samuelgrizzle5141 Latin doesn't clarify the matter. The quote Voodie uses actually shows Peter giving instructions to the others. How does that prove his point? It doesn't! It proves that Peter is exercising authority over the others. Then Voodie makes some claims but, doesn't offer any verses to substantiate because they don't exist. Read Acts. Whenever Paul needs direction, he goes to Peter.
@@richardounjian9270Once the Frankish King Pepin the Short donated lands to the Bishop of Rome, he started acting like a psychopathic egomaniac antichrist.
@@richardounjian9270Peter was not the pope bro but let’s just say he was the first pope , Peter showed humility told many people to get up when they bow to him then said Iam a man just like
You , unlike what the pope is today where y’all idolize a whole human like he’s God , but even so Peter was married had a whole wife , to claim Peter was the first pope if he really was so. why does every other pope not do what Peter actually did
Ok protestant
Jesus replied and said that were my rock and upon you I shall build the church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her whatever you bind in heaven is is bound in heaven whatever you don't is not
He does not say upon YOU. In Greek there is 2 different words used in Matthew 16 1. Petros which means piece of rock or a smaller rock and 2. Petra which means larger rock or bedrock.
So taking that into account what Jesus says in this passage is: " you are petros (small rock) and on this Petra (big rock) I will build my church."
The rock on which the church is built is Peter's statement that Jesus is the Messiah and the son of the living God and that anyone living on that statement and rock is part of the church.
But now if we were to assume that the church was built on Peter (even though that would be grammatically incorrect) it is much too far of a jump to now claim he is the pope with infallible statements that comes from nowhere! If he was the rock then he was just one of the main early church leaders (which he was) not infallible.
The current pope promotes lgbt lifestyles and aethism. And he also sucks up to Islam. If the postion of pope where the actual mouthpiece and representative of God, then they'd never promote such heresies.
Christ is the head of the church, not some sinful man.
@@anthonybenge8389and how is this IN ANY WAY related to the Catholic church or to Popes?
@@veler6049 because they falsely claim that Peter was the first pope.
Peter was never in Roman he was an apostle to the Jews Paul was the apostle in Roman and to the gentles. In all Paul's writings he never ever mentioned Peter but he talked about Timothy, Barnabas, Silas, John Mark and others.
If you read Dr Bart D Herman book on revelation he points out that Babylon was used for Rome, Several scholars have always pointed out Babylon code name for Rome.
Well, they would have you read certain church fathers. Then we have the problem of the RCC Vatican & Jesuits manipulating truth & history. The jesuits were known for writing forgeries. The only sure thing we have is GODS Word which he inspired by the use of man & HE canonized correctly by men.
This is incorrect. The church fathers attest to Peter being the leader of the church or Rome. Also, Paul mentions Peter in some of his epistles. Galatians 2 for example.