NOTE: For those trying to buy this scope, it's NOT FOR SALE YET. Anything you see listed on Amazon, ebay etc is the OLD model, the 1000X, not the 1000X-E shown in this video. They are VERY different scopes.
The pricing should be similar, but adjusted for currency differences and import costs. Contact your local distributor for more details. A list of European distriubutors is here: www.siglenteu.com/howtobuy.aspx
Hey Sigy, considering this is about the best thing you can get to free advertising a oscilloscope shouldn't you have this in stores or at least pre-order ready when these videos drop?
For whatever it's worth, I'm glad to see the recent scope videos for newly released models in the sub-$1000 (sub-$500 in this case) price range. This kind of detailed information isn't easy to come by. I don't yet own a scope but I appreciate how important a tool it is, and I'm starting to run into a greater need for one. These recent Keysight and Siglent offerings are very relevant to what I can consider saving up the money to buy. I'd be surprised if most of the viewers here aren't also interested in them. I'm hoping we'll get to see some detailed reviews of features/functionality/problems for both the new Keysight and the new Siglent, and comparisons between them and the Rigol which stands as the current market darling. The lower end of the scope market (what I think most of us can actually afford) is getting really interesting with the new product releases coming out, so it makes sense for this to be a hot topic right now. Personally I'm eager and grateful for any in-depth information we can get about them.
I can't think of a single reason to get that Keysight over this Siglent or the comparable Rigol/Instek unless you really care about that Keysight sticker on the front (and the giant logo shown at all times in the display itself lmao, great use of screen real estate). The keysight is an absolute bare-bones scope, tiny amount of sample memory, no phosphor-type display, the decoding functions cost extra and it doesn't seem like you'll be able to hack them in, ever. It also starts at $450 for a (haha) 50mhz model that you need to void the warranty to get a decent bandwidth out of. It's strictly for the sort of person who cares about nothing but a brand name. I'm pretty sure this is what Dave was trying to convey with the whole dumpster thing, I can't wait for the full review of the Keysight if it's ever even going to happen. What can you possibly honestly say that's positive about that after seeing what you get for under $400 here. It's going to be interesting and say a lot about the integrity of this channel either way it goes.
I would really like to see Dave buy one himself and see if there are any differences. If I were Siglent sending him one, I would hand pick the best one, and make sure everything that he has mentioned in his past reviews were done. Like the silastic around all the caps, the wires being threaded through the fan, and the red gunk on the connectors. The big thing that comes to mind with the lack of rust is this a first run product, so no time in storage for the rust to start. I'd like to see Dave put it in his bunker for a couple of months and if I were a betting man, rust would appear. I may just be a skeptic, but I hate when companies send things in to "review". I prefer RUclipsrs that buy the product off the shelf themselves, a less bias review.
Does this thing produce the same distortions at low frequencies as the 1000x series (50 Hz squarewave)? Ist the x-y mode faster? And does it also log only 0,3 sec at seriell decode mode (9600Bd)? I bought a SDS1102x and then sent it back. I did an video about all the problems "Geniales Teil..." - in german - sorry...
Dave, many thanks to you - for reminding me of this great movie. I just watched it again after so many years... The universal message from this movie is: when you use violence against violence everybody looses (the winner is: none). It's a shame that people thend to forget about it nowdays.
Greetings friend. First of all, thank you for your work and thank you for all your contributions to the community, you are helping us a lot. I would like to ask you a question if it is not too much trouble. I have a question about oscilloscopes. I've been looking for weeks to buy one with 2 channels. I'm between a Siglent or a Rigol. Both are 200Mhz and 1Gsa/s. The most notable differences between them are: The Siglent SDS1202X-E has 14Mpts and up to 400,000 Wfm/s, while the Rigol DS1202Z-E has 24Mpts and 30,000 Wfm/s. The question is, what should I get, more Mpts or more Wfm/s? And in your opinion, which one do you think is better and which one would you choose? Thanks again, thank you for your contributions to the community. A strong hug.
19:24 - I see four resistors that are different! The resistor at the 5 o'clock position of VC4 (bottom left corner of screen) is marked "65B" and on the other channel next to VC2 it is "58B". Then on the VC3 it is "85B" and the other channel next to VC1 it is "74B". Someone else can look those codes up. Ya, I had to look after Dave said they looked the same! ;-P
Firecul42 - Thanks. Any thoughts on why they would be different? To me the front ends should be exactly the same on both channels. The only difference I can see is perhaps one has a longer route to the next stage (ADC) but wouldn't that just mean snaking the shorter one around until it was the same? IDK. Seems weird.
.. and BTW: VC is a *V*ariable *C*apacitor, which I think was on the bottom side of the old one if I saw it right blinking through the holes in the PCB. Maybe I'm wrong.
Just saying, there are people still viewing this video. I enjoyed the opening up of the scope. I already bought one March 2021 but not planning to crack into it anytime soon.
Yes, it is an excellent offering, but how on earth can it decode a 4-wire SPI bus with just 2 channels? I need to decode MISO and MOSI an the same time, which calls for four channels. Or what am I missing?
Dave, I have to be honest with you. 99% of the time I have no idea what you're talking about, but somehow you present the content in such a way that I'm too entertained to skip the video. I think I've learned something, but I'm not sure. :-D
I spent 30 years laying out "jelly bean stuff" LOL!!!! This board and it's technology is a walk down memory (pun intended) lane. Some BGA boards I designed were up to 18 layers. Just ridiculous complexity, especially the ECL logic boards. I nearly missed a two week vacation in Mexico because I was late with laying out one of these beasts. BTW I have the Siglent SDS 1202X-E 200 MHz scope for about a year now.
Hi Dave +EEVblog 1) Do you find that scope Rigol killer? 2) Will you make comparison on 1104Z vs SDS1202X-E? 3) Do you have any approximate date of release? A nice teardown BTW ;)
The Dual Core ARM A9 with Co-processor(Zynq 7000) seems to do the business with this Siglent scope. Wish the Rigol wasn't so crippled with the Single Core processor(Spartan-6-25) running 4 channels. Everyone seems to be hoping for a firmware update to repair the glitches of an underpowered scope. Wish the Rigol had the processor to do the business. Sighhh The Siglent has some processor overhead for future firmware upgrade functionality which is inspiring. Even if you had to recap the power supply with Nichicons, Panasonics, or Vishays, still worth 379 bucks. By the way LeLon is a subsidiary of Elna which instills a little confidence.
"help" is for old DOS and Windows systems. Newer Windows (PS), Linux, Mac, and everything else uses "man" Also, try running "df", "mount", and "ls /*" for a ton of interesting information on Linux. That "#" probably means it a root console, which would mean you already have complete control over the software. If they're not locking down any features there's not much reason to secure the software. This thing looks like a oscilloscope hacker's dream.
I just ordered one, this will be my first digital scope and I'm intending to use it to read signals generated for ultrasonic transducers in the 100hz-1mhz ranges.
That "nice touch" of gooping up the connectors is so that, if you send it in for a warranty repair, they can tell if you've been naughty, and been inside (and voided the warranty!).
7:30 Well, to be totally fair, despite being far from a "first choice", Lelon aren't quite bottom-of-the-barrel - Delta somehow manage(d) to make them last amazingly long in ATX power supplies. Still, i'd rather have Lelon than whatever crap there was in the Keysight 1000X power supply...
the thing refusing to "help" you in the end was the Almquist shell (/bin/ash) supplied by busybox, a common core util type software package on embedded linux.
14:24 Those bunch of transistors, could be P-Mosfet level shifters, concerning the IO pins of certain Arm processors are 3 Volt max and not 5 Volts resilient... But it does not appear to be a part of the normal function, my guess, so maybe they are just some internal test points or some direct I/O connections to the processor that have been made 5 Volts resilient. Like maybe the USB port, if that's what it is just directly at the right, or is that the ethernet socket? Or maybe they are connected to the JTAG / serial ports, always good to have those 5 Volts resilient so you do not blow up the processor inputs... Just noticed, that at the tip of the probe it reads 2V5 while the JTAG port has 3V3, so maybe it is even worse, level shifting from 3V3 to 2V5 to protect the processor inputs...
Not seeing the link "cards" that you're pointing to. I got the annotations setting thing turned on, for what that's worth. (edit: it's been fixed now - thanks Dave!)
Thank god they finally turned off annotations! Better yet would be updating their apps to show the annotations, of course, but that clearly was never going to happen.
Great tear down Dave. I wondered after the Rigol came out how long it would be for another manufacturer to take the next step and this seems to be it. Are you doing a review of the scope?
HI, I bought the oscilloscope SIGLENT SDS1202X-E a week ago, but I have a "newbie" problem. I cannot see the signal on both channels at the same time. That is, if I measure a signal on CH1 and I want that same signal on CH2, I can't stabilize the signal on both channels, only one. Any ideas how I can fix this and stabilize it on both? Thanks.
Pleasant afternoon to you Sir. I was about to buy an HP 54602B Scope; however after looking at some of your videos I began to lean towards the Rigol DS1054Z, watched couple more then started to wonder if I should get the Siglent SDS1202X. I would be using the scope for amplifier repairs and tuning, car audio installation. Your recommendation would be greatly appreciated. I hope you have a progressive day. Thank you.
4:39 RUclips have turned off annotations? *BEGINS CELEBRATING NOW RUclipsRS CAN'T SPAM MY SCREEN WITH SHIT!* Not that you do that, but some just go whaaayyyyy over the top.
Its one thing to not offer them everywhere and discourage people from using it, its another to force everyone to not use them. They have a use, which is to react to comments and other things you figure out after the fact. If they had a proper replacement for that situation, then meh, but as it is now, there is no way for you to do that.
One thing I like to know here, this model looks like it uses a bakelite main board instead of standard glass epoxy FR4 grade ! Or I am wrong, the main board is made from glass epoxy but looks like brown in colour ?
What if I damage a front end? There is no module for easy replacement. Is there a special component that is affected and which you can replace yourself? Can this be repaired and where? How much does something like that cost?
You tried to get the decode protocol working in another video by using this technique of using a UART to communicate with. Why not look through this download and compare it with the other download to try some of the numbers that appear here. Maybe you can get lucky.
Mine went off while pushing buttons, with a beep as it went. Is there a fuse or a cut-out? The Siglent name remained on screen until AC supply was removed. Then it went off, not tocome back again!
Apparently this scope is trying to compete with the Chinese scopes with similar specs such as the Hantek DSO5102P which costs slightly over 200 US dollars.
How are we to chose amongst so many models and suffixes? Is this the 1102 or the 1202? Its flipping about between 1102 and 1202. Is their big difference?
damn I'm in the market for a new scope to replace my 1960s era Tektronix 321.. this seems extremely tempting. (damn, it's almost $600 on amazon right now, kinda whacks the value proposition a bit)
yeah, I figured that out and realized I was jumping the gun a little bit! I could blame manufacturers for using tiny differences in model numbers, but it was actually just my being impatient... still, I'm gonna keep an eye out for this one! It'd be nice to upgrade my scope by about 60 years worth of tech.
Has anyone else noticed that this scope can't be set to trigger each channel individually? And without a vertical channel trigger source mode, it's really annoying to do analog test work. Constantly button-pushing to get it to trigger. So q. for anyone knowledgeable about this scope's hardware: is this scope capable of triggering on different sources for each channel?
NOTE: For those trying to buy this scope, it's NOT FOR SALE YET.
Anything you see listed on Amazon, ebay etc is the OLD model, the 1000X, not the 1000X-E shown in this video. They are VERY different scopes.
In North America the official release date is April 25.
If you are correct concerning this date then I thank you for this information.....PEACE
You got the wrong scope! The scope with the right model number has a REE in it.
The pricing should be similar, but adjusted for currency differences and import costs. Contact your local distributor for more details.
A list of European distriubutors is here:
www.siglenteu.com/howtobuy.aspx
Hey Sigy, considering this is about the best thing you can get to free advertising a oscilloscope shouldn't you have this in stores or at least pre-order ready when these videos drop?
For whatever it's worth, I'm glad to see the recent scope videos for newly released models in the sub-$1000 (sub-$500 in this case) price range. This kind of detailed information isn't easy to come by.
I don't yet own a scope but I appreciate how important a tool it is, and I'm starting to run into a greater need for one. These recent Keysight and Siglent offerings are very relevant to what I can consider saving up the money to buy. I'd be surprised if most of the viewers here aren't also interested in them.
I'm hoping we'll get to see some detailed reviews of features/functionality/problems for both the new Keysight and the new Siglent, and comparisons between them and the Rigol which stands as the current market darling.
The lower end of the scope market (what I think most of us can actually afford) is getting really interesting with the new product releases coming out, so it makes sense for this to be a hot topic right now. Personally I'm eager and grateful for any in-depth information we can get about them.
I can't think of a single reason to get that Keysight over this Siglent or the comparable Rigol/Instek unless you really care about that Keysight sticker on the front (and the giant logo shown at all times in the display itself lmao, great use of screen real estate). The keysight is an absolute bare-bones scope, tiny amount of sample memory, no phosphor-type display, the decoding functions cost extra and it doesn't seem like you'll be able to hack them in, ever. It also starts at $450 for a (haha) 50mhz model that you need to void the warranty to get a decent bandwidth out of. It's strictly for the sort of person who cares about nothing but a brand name.
I'm pretty sure this is what Dave was trying to convey with the whole dumpster thing, I can't wait for the full review of the Keysight if it's ever even going to happen. What can you possibly honestly say that's positive about that after seeing what you get for under $400 here. It's going to be interesting and say a lot about the integrity of this channel either way it goes.
thanks riglol for kicking the market in the nuts
Indeed.
Rig-lol XD
I bought one based on this video and i do not regret it. Thanks dave.
I'm about to buy one, what's your thoughts on this now after a year of experience?
I would really like to see Dave buy one himself and see if there are any differences. If I were Siglent sending him one, I would hand pick the best one, and make sure everything that he has mentioned in his past reviews were done. Like the silastic around all the caps, the wires being threaded through the fan, and the red gunk on the connectors. The big thing that comes to mind with the lack of rust is this a first run product, so no time in storage for the rust to start. I'd like to see Dave put it in his bunker for a couple of months and if I were a betting man, rust would appear. I may just be a skeptic, but I hate when companies send things in to "review". I prefer RUclipsrs that buy the product off the shelf themselves, a less bias review.
Does this thing produce the same distortions at low frequencies as the 1000x series (50 Hz squarewave)? Ist the x-y mode faster? And does it also log only 0,3 sec at seriell decode mode (9600Bd)? I bought a SDS1102x and then sent it back. I did an video about all the problems "Geniales Teil..." - in german - sorry...
Dave, many thanks to you - for reminding me of this great movie. I just watched it again after so many years...
The universal message from this movie is: when you use violence against violence everybody looses (the winner is: none). It's a shame that people thend to forget about it nowdays.
Did you know there is a WarGames 2?
EEVblog thanks again, I didn't know that. I must check it out. :-)
Greetings friend. First of all, thank you for your work and thank you for all your contributions to the community, you are helping us a lot. I would like to ask you a question if it is not too much trouble.
I have a question about oscilloscopes. I've been looking for weeks to buy one with 2 channels. I'm between a Siglent or a Rigol.
Both are 200Mhz and 1Gsa/s. The most notable differences between them are: The Siglent SDS1202X-E has 14Mpts and up to 400,000 Wfm/s, while the Rigol DS1202Z-E has 24Mpts and 30,000 Wfm/s.
The question is, what should I get, more Mpts or more Wfm/s?
And in your opinion, which one do you think is better and which one would you choose?
Thanks again, thank you for your contributions to the community.
A strong hug.
I made it everyone. Went through all 985 vblogs :) LIFE!
That Linux root shell over the UART could be very interesting for hacking. I wonder if they will keep it enabled in the release version.
19:24 - I see four resistors that are different! The resistor at the 5 o'clock position of VC4 (bottom left corner of screen) is marked "65B" and on the other channel next to VC2 it is "58B". Then on the VC3 it is "85B" and the other channel next to VC1 it is "74B". Someone else can look those codes up.
Ya, I had to look after Dave said they looked the same! ;-P
Well spotted
Firecul42 - Thanks. Any thoughts on why they would be different? To me the front ends should be exactly the same on both channels. The only difference I can see is perhaps one has a longer route to the next stage (ADC) but wouldn't that just mean snaking the shorter one around until it was the same? IDK. Seems weird.
.. and BTW: VC is a *V*ariable *C*apacitor, which I think was on the bottom side of the old one if I saw it right blinking through the holes in the PCB. Maybe I'm wrong.
Just saying, there are people still viewing this video. I enjoyed the opening up of the scope. I already bought one March 2021 but not planning to crack into it anytime soon.
For sure. I am not happy with old unanswered questions though. 🤔
Very cool. This may be the new scope i buy this year. I'm still using an old B&K Precision 2120 that a professor gave me back in '96. Thanks Dave!
If it suits your budget and you don't need 4 channels, then it's a good buy. 200MHz bandiwidth + serial decode for $379 - insane.
please do a feature checkout and a review, and also show the FFT...:)
Yes, it is an excellent offering, but how on earth can it decode a 4-wire SPI bus with just 2 channels? I need to decode MISO and MOSI an the same time, which calls for four channels. Or what am I missing?
@@EEVblog Is it still worth buying in 2022? or should I buy some other scope? (In the same price range)
More mailbags, 2 min teardowns and fundamentals fridays please.
Dave, I have to be honest with you. 99% of the time I have no idea what you're talking about, but somehow you present the content in such a way that I'm too entertained to skip the video. I think I've learned something, but I'm not sure. :-D
LOL thanks!
Dave, I purchased the SDS1202X-E 200Mhz from Amazon on 10/2020 for $379 US/Free shipping.
I just bought this scope. Liking it so far!
I learn so much from you! Thank you!
I spent 30 years laying out "jelly bean stuff" LOL!!!! This board and it's technology is a walk down memory (pun intended) lane. Some BGA boards I designed were up to 18 layers. Just ridiculous complexity, especially the ECL logic boards. I nearly missed a two week vacation in Mexico because I was late with laying out one of these beasts. BTW I have the Siglent SDS 1202X-E 200 MHz scope for about a year now.
This is insane value.
loving mine. I do wish the XY mode would have a fast update rate. but man for this price i am not complaining.
Just bought one. Can't wait!
Good moornig, excuse me... How is it working?
Awesome! Its a shame its not 4 channel, though then again it'd have lower specs if it was. Excellent Teardown.
Hi Dave +EEVblog
1) Do you find that scope Rigol killer?
2) Will you make comparison on 1104Z vs SDS1202X-E?
3) Do you have any approximate date of release?
A nice teardown BTW ;)
The Dual Core ARM A9 with Co-processor(Zynq 7000) seems to do the business with this Siglent scope. Wish the Rigol wasn't so crippled with the Single Core processor(Spartan-6-25) running 4 channels. Everyone seems to be hoping for a firmware update to repair the glitches of an underpowered scope. Wish the Rigol had the processor to do the business. Sighhh The Siglent has some processor overhead for future firmware upgrade functionality which is inspiring. Even if you had to recap the power supply with Nichicons, Panasonics, or Vishays, still worth 379 bucks. By the way LeLon is a subsidiary of Elna which instills a little confidence.
"help" is for old DOS and Windows systems. Newer Windows (PS), Linux, Mac, and everything else uses "man"
Also, try running "df", "mount", and "ls /*" for a ton of interesting information on Linux. That "#" probably means it a root console, which would mean you already have complete control over the software. If they're not locking down any features there's not much reason to secure the software. This thing looks like a oscilloscope hacker's dream.
Oh my god you sexist patriarchy shitlord! Where is the woman command?
lol
(To be clear man is short for manual not male ^_^)
I was joking, man
the old debian funny-manpages package had a great "man woman". Don't think you can find it any more though :-(
yep, the classic linux joke:
$ man woman
returns
"No manual entry for woman"
.... True dat.
I just ordered one, this will be my first digital scope and I'm intending to use it to read signals generated for ultrasonic transducers in the 100hz-1mhz ranges.
LAN is standard is a big selling point for me. Rigol scopes have the connector, but you have to pay the option extra.
Love your videos, Dave. Just pointing out a small confusing bite.
Scope says 1102X-E on the label. Review is for the 1202X-E...
“Help games” nice touch. If you hacked the audio, you’d hear “want to play a game?” In 8 bit synthesized sound for sure.
That "nice touch" of gooping up the connectors is so that, if you send it in for a warranty repair, they can tell if you've been naughty, and been inside (and voided the warranty!).
I just bought one of these. It's all I could afford, it's seemingly solid
7:30 Well, to be totally fair, despite being far from a "first choice", Lelon aren't quite bottom-of-the-barrel - Delta somehow manage(d) to make them last amazingly long in ATX power supplies. Still, i'd rather have Lelon than whatever crap there was in the Keysight 1000X power supply...
I'm calling it: Siglent Signature Rust™ on the chassis!
Oooh... swing and a miss....
I used to hate annotations but see their benefit now that YT has gotten rid of them.
The Joshua at the end really got me laughing!
The main board look soooo nice.
Smart move, now 200mhz is an interresting offering against 4 channels for the folks that want a scope in this price range.
Yes, very interesting move. Makes it a tough choice.
the thing refusing to "help" you in the end was the Almquist shell (/bin/ash) supplied by busybox, a common core util type software package on embedded linux.
This is an interesting competitor to the 1054Z.
Hello Dave! Nice video as always. What would you recommend between this scope and a Rigol DS1054Z?
The retail price for the zynq xc7Z020T is $125.30 each. You would think they would use a less expensive processor! The Processor is 667 MHz.
Was literally typing, "where's the trademark Siglent rust?!" when I hit your comment.
14:24 Those bunch of transistors, could be P-Mosfet level shifters, concerning the IO pins of certain Arm processors are 3 Volt max and not 5 Volts resilient... But it does not appear to be a part of the normal function, my guess, so maybe they are just some internal test points or some direct I/O connections to the processor that have been made 5 Volts resilient. Like maybe the USB port, if that's what it is just directly at the right, or is that the ethernet socket? Or maybe they are connected to the JTAG / serial ports, always good to have those 5 Volts resilient so you do not blow up the processor inputs... Just noticed, that at the tip of the probe it reads 2V5 while the JTAG port has 3V3, so maybe it is even worse, level shifting from 3V3 to 2V5 to protect the processor inputs...
It figures. I just bought a $350 'scope and this comes out. fml.
Not seeing the link "cards" that you're pointing to. I got the annotations setting thing turned on, for what that's worth. (edit: it's been fixed now - thanks Dave!)
Not seeing it either.
Fixed.
Cheers, works now. What on earth are RUclips thinking though, that's next to useless compared to the old system!
Click the Circle i in the top right of the screen.
noiplah What they're thinking? F the system because it doesn't work on mobile and more and more people are watching from phones and tablets.
Thank god they finally turned off annotations! Better yet would be updating their apps to show the annotations, of course, but that clearly was never going to happen.
I have a question: Would it be possible to have "Bode Plot" function on my Siglent SDS 1202X-E by updating firmware or software please. Best regards.
My daily dose of aussie asmr.
Nothing to say about the display or keyboard design/construction?
Elephant Tide: How to keep your elephant clean!
Boy Dave, pretty soon you'll hit that much coveted 1024th video mark.
Greetings professor Falken.
14:25 The snakey 🐍 tracks above siglent logo on mainboard look dandy😂
744053 is actually a 74 series component, a triple 2 channel IC switch/analog demux.
Great tear down Dave. I wondered after the Rigol came out how long it would be for another manufacturer to take the next step and this seems to be it. Are you doing a review of the scope?
If only it had four channels... I'm ready to pay reasonably more for that. So I'm still aiming at that 1054z.
HI,
I bought the oscilloscope SIGLENT SDS1202X-E a week ago, but I have a "newbie" problem. I cannot see the signal on both channels at the same time. That is, if I measure a signal on CH1 and I want that same signal on CH2, I can't stabilize the signal on both channels, only one. Any ideas how I can fix this and stabilize it on both?
Thanks.
Pleasant afternoon to you Sir.
I was about to buy an HP 54602B Scope; however after looking at some of your videos I began to lean towards the Rigol DS1054Z, watched couple more then started to wonder if I should get the Siglent SDS1202X.
I would be using the scope for amplifier repairs and tuning, car audio installation.
Your recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
I hope you have a progressive day.
Thank you.
I just bought a 1054z. I wonder if I should get this instead. I dont really know if I need 4 channels.
Do R/C! same here 🤔😐
Glen Yeldho very.cool mine was supposed to be here today but ups got I'll delayed.
Do R/C! let's hope siglent suck's 😂😂
Interesting they covered the tops of some of the electrolytic caps with the white goop. How are they supposed to vent?
4:39 RUclips have turned off annotations?
*BEGINS CELEBRATING NOW RUclipsRS CAN'T SPAM MY SCREEN WITH SHIT!*
Not that you do that, but some just go whaaayyyyy over the top.
That's a reason I like RUclips on Android TV. No annotations show up
You know you can turn annotations off, right? At least I can on my PC. Though maybe you can't on Android.
You can always turn off annotations. Just click the little gear. It's been that way forever.
And that's probably why RUclips have got rid of them. If most people turn them off, there's no point content creators using them
Its one thing to not offer them everywhere and discourage people from using it, its another to force everyone to not use them. They have a use, which is to react to comments and other things you figure out after the fact. If they had a proper replacement for that situation, then meh, but as it is now, there is no way for you to do that.
You should type "rm -rf /" and wait ;)
lol
Its an Ubuntu/Debian-based distro. So it has to be "rm -rf / --no-preserve-root" 8)
you evil evil troll you ;)
This scope emits a huge amount of EMF, I think they took out the ferrite on the LCD cables.
No
200mhz for under $400? Not too bad.
Young whipper-snappers...
I bought that oscilloscope and it broke down after 2 months, the keypad stopped working. Siglent never again.
Great teardown! Is there a review of it also? Can't seem to find it.
Please show its closed loop and open noise level and please compare it with SDS1104X-U
We're getting too close to 1000
What's the actual "review" on this scope? Is it worth getting?
Hey Dave, is it possible you could do a tear down of a transportable cell phone preferably the size of a mini suitcase?
So many scopes, so little money!
Really? The Trigger is still a "real" circuit?
I thought digital scopes would just sample all the time and do the triggering in the FPGA!
one day someone will use that password and put in an easter Egg just for you.
One thing I like to know here, this model looks like it uses a bakelite main board instead of standard glass epoxy FR4 grade ! Or I am wrong, the main board is made from glass epoxy but looks like brown in colour ?
$379?! Serial Decoding?! SOLD!
Far Que
Please share the link
I bet its still to expensive in the uk, we get nailed in taxes :-(
€434.39 at www.siglent.eu/sds1202x-e.html with free uk delivery makes 372GBP :)
Queens cost lots of money I hear
Is this scope worth buying? Can I examine 144Mhz RF (FM ) signals for ham radio experimentation?
You're gonna want to look at an SDR or a spectrum analyzer for something like that. (SDR being the cheaper option)
For an extra 20 squids you could easily replace the caps with Panasonic's.
Sounds like a good future upgrade for the long term. I'd assume the electrolytics are the most that can go wrong in these.
So if I had $800 (give or take) for a scope, wanted serial/CAN decode and bandwidth wasn't super important, what's the best option?
What if I damage a front end? There is no module for easy replacement. Is there a special component that is affected and which you can replace yourself? Can this be repaired and where? How much does something like that cost?
have you thought about doing a teardown of the DSO5072P?
You tried to get the decode protocol working in another video by using this technique of using a UART to communicate with. Why not look through this download and compare it with the other download to try some of the numbers that appear here. Maybe you can get lucky.
This guy is the ave of electrocity
Mine went off while pushing buttons, with a beep as it went.
Is there a fuse or a cut-out?
The Siglent name remained on screen until AC supply was removed. Then it went off, not tocome back again!
I just watched the 1000X and 2000X teardowns, and Rigol is *never* going to live down screwing up the PLL circuit, are they?
Apparently this scope is trying to compete with the Chinese scopes with similar specs such as the Hantek DSO5102P which costs slightly over 200 US dollars.
Jaakko Oksa well, bench vs USB, quite different machines
Hmmm. UD-2 NEC relays at the input are rated for 10mV dc, but SDS1202 is rated for 500uV min. Strange.
Interesting. TY.
Should I get this model or the Rigol 1054Z?
Thanks for any advice!
hmm was just about to pick up the 1054z now I need to decide if I really need 4 channels or not...
How are we to chose amongst so many models and suffixes?
Is this the 1102 or the 1202? Its flipping about between 1102 and 1202.
Is their big difference?
The earth wire seems broken at the connector?
22:10 Zynq Development board.
damn I'm in the market for a new scope to replace my 1960s era Tektronix 321.. this seems extremely tempting. (damn, it's almost $600 on amazon right now, kinda whacks the value proposition a bit)
It is NOT on Amazon yet. This scope has not been released yet. The one on Amazon is the X model, not the X-E, they are VERY different!
yeah, I figured that out and realized I was jumping the gun a little bit! I could blame manufacturers for using tiny differences in model numbers, but it was actually just my being impatient... still, I'm gonna keep an eye out for this one! It'd be nice to upgrade my scope by about 60 years worth of tech.
NO RUST!
Lelon was also so.ldered into the old Hameg.....
Hey Dave, what do you think of HDL as a first programming experience?
HDL isn't really programming. It's a hardware description language.
Has anyone else noticed that this scope can't be set to trigger each channel individually? And without a vertical channel trigger source mode, it's really annoying to do analog test work. Constantly button-pushing to get it to trigger. So q. for anyone knowledgeable about this scope's hardware: is this scope capable of triggering on different sources for each channel?
Shall we play a game? I fancy a bit of Global Thermonuclear War!
No sign of rust(TM)?? Yet.... :D :D