@@officialWWM Some. The guy is also using a very expensive microphone for a budget build. Do you think a budget builder has a very expensive microphone? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This works "better" than nothing. But it's an incomplete solution.
@@JimTheKid Did who say it was what? Did the youtuber say it was a vocal booth? Yes. Did he say it was a complete solution? I mean... he claims it's the "best" DIY vocal booth... and it's not even a complete vocal "booth". If you're gonna claim it's the best, then by definition, there can't be anything better... and an incomplete solution is beaten by a complete one... so yeah -- he did say it's a complete solution if it's the "best" solution.
You are pointing the most sensitive part of the microphone outside, towards the untreated room. No wonder it sounds the same as before. You should flip the setup 180°, so that you have the booth behind you with the mic pointing towards it. That way, no reflections go into the front of the mic (since it's pointing towards the booth) and the reverb coming from the room is now behind the mic, therefore it's not picked up.
That's an interesting idea! It's definitely worth considering the possible outcomes of using the microphone in the opposite direction. Standing with your back to the vocal booth may indeed help to reduce the amount of background noise that gets picked up by the microphone. It's always good to experiment with different setups and see what works best for your specific situation.
Check this out: I also bought myself a $100 Gazebo / Pergola (200cm x 200cm) and placed it in my basement on a noise absorbing rug. I left the outside "walls" off and placed moving blankets on all five sides. Got myself a 10M led strip for the inside and some bass traps in the corners and foam on the inside off the blankets. Super easy set-up for recording with my D18 and singing at the same time straight into my iPhone using the Roland Go Pro mix. Call me cheap but I just love my little "tent" inside my basement. Nice and cozy. Love your channel man!!
Yes, at the time I did this video mineral wool was more of an unknown to me. Now I would recommend mineral wool except for one big issue! Fiberglass is now formaldehyde free but mineral wool is not
@@TrueSoundTV i bought Rockwool Mineral wool insulation. It says formaldehyde free 0% formaldehyde. Do you think they still contain formaldehyde even they "NO formaldehyde" is in strongly stated on packaging?
@@TrueSoundTV thanks for the content i do find the rhetoric in this video is inconsistent with the other video "we don't need to worry about acoustic treatment down here, its really not necessary" in the other videos you mention and actually apply acoustic treatment on the floor. also, in the 30 dollar booth video you made a full enclosure as opposed to only a corner of treatment you're a professional and we appreciate you sharing your creativity with us it would be helpful, for us who are learning, to have consistent principles that build a firm conceptual understanding and application of the material you are sharing with us on this channel thanks again, really appreciate the content
Joshua Stanford Yes I do understand that this video slightly contradicts what I have now stated in newer videos. This is mainly due to the fact that I have just learned a significant more about acoustics over the years. My vocal booth videos were meant for the starter home recording studio who is just looking to have fun recording their music. If you are interested in a serious vocal booth, it needs to be a very large space and is adequately treated on all surfaces like in my new studio build. As you stated, not worrying about frequencies that are lower towards the floor not being important, that still is true when trying to have a minimal vocal booth set up like this. Focusing the acoustic treatment around the microphone it’s going to be the most effective with a minimal set up like this. In the very near future, I’m going to have a video series on building a home recording studio in a bedroom and going through the entire process of how to make it the most effective with what I now know about acoustics
Get a 12-cube pack of these, but use the panels to build the booth instead. They fit together kinda like legos and they’re made to be sturdy. Then just cover the inside with foam or blankets: www.amazon.com/SONGMICS-Organizer-Bookcase-Shelving-ULPC44BK/dp/B07P5D84XQ
@@giuliano8031 Some microphones are only sensitive from the front. Others are sensitive all around. Some are better at the directional pattern than others. If you're on this kind of a budget, you're probably not using the greatest vocal microphone. Having the entire backside exposed is where sound will be coming into the microphone. This is half of a booth. It's better than nothing... but it's hardly a booth.
@@giuliano8031 Sure it does. And how good is it? If it's expensive, probably pretty decent. If not, probably less decent. If you're on a budget to build a vocal "booth" it might be nice if it works well for cheaper mics too, which is what folks on a budget might have. Sorry, but I don't speak typo, so your second message doesn't make sense.
I made it but I add Rigid fiberglass so is the pink isolation plus the other one I said and bro! Sounds so cool! Today I recorded black metal vocals and sounds sick AF! Thank you for show me this project bro.
Pink insulation isn't going to do much, you really need to use Rockwool or fiberglass, you would also be better making it a 3 panel so it wraps a bit more around you. just my opinion but good video and idea!
TheMusicman961 pink insulation is fiberglass insulation. That’s what was used, fiberglass insulation. Rockwool would be a bit better to use but since it’s made with formaldehyde, I don’t use it bc it’s known to cause cancer. Look it up, it’s not good and is in all mineral wool, at least as of today
Fiberglass and Mineral insulation are basically equal in this application as this vocal booth is about sound treatment and neutrality rather any type of sound proofing where Rock-wool does a slightly better job. Pink is my suggestion over mineral/rock in most scenarios including soundproofing.
Never underestimate the epic power of blankets/sheets/towels!!! Carpet padding and foam are often available at little to no cost as well. Surprisingly, the cheaper options usually measure up and sometimes even surpass the more popular, hip, "pro" mats. Great job making these videos approachable and simple for those who may not think they can build their own stuff! I happened upon this video looking for software and tech suggestions/opinions. I'm a carpenter but everyone can do this if they are motivated to. Utility and efficiency while achieving great results! Sub'd
The downsides of Blankets and fabric are they absorb high end and Crispiness of a vocal it like a bit muffled. Rockwool and fiberglass will preserve the high frequency information while removing the reflection.
Yes, all my videos have my own produced and recorded tracks playing. So which song though? There's 2 songs playing in this video? Let me know what time in the video! Thanks for watching!
Man, I like your ideas but I'm curious about the audio result if you record while your facing the rest of the room with your back against the booth's walls
Yes, i know. In another video, i was talking about how these vocal booths only stop sound from the back and not the front. The mics have such good rejection from the back that the vocal booth seems a little redundant. Which is why a fully enclosed vocal booth/treated room will always have a better sound. You should really just build 2 of these booths and stand in between the 2 for the most isolation. Thanks for watching!
I got decent results adding sound panels behing me on a wall and using an auralex type vocal backing pad that sits on mic stand..I placed a moving blanket above and I think all I need is some carpet...I'm in a garage so there's lots of noise....maybe this works best if I set it up behind me as a three wall booth with 2 walls being parallel and one being perpendicular? Perhaps some bass traps in the corner?And the top of it with a nice light for a vibe.🤔 Also is anyone knowledgeable on how well the new denim style insulation pads work for studio purposes?I'd rather not deal with fiberglass. Thanks for the video, even if its not perfect it's great that your trying to help people out👍🏻
We used the recycled denim insulation instead of fiberglass. It's pricey, but seems to have good acoustic absorption. Just don't believe the pix of little kids touching it. It may not have the itchy qualities of fiberglass but the amount of dander that it drops during installation is dreadful. It helps a little if you shake it outside before installing. Still need a respirator.
I agree with another comment that the choice of the pink foam is likely to create a messy disaster over time (nothing like breathing fiberglass!), and I think it relates to the goals of the project/booth. While there was some positive dampening effect, some of the construction and material choices (presumably in pursuit of the budget goal) seemed to make it unpractical to use over time. The exposed paper backs are a problem in any studio where people come and go. At the very least he could have thrown fabric over it too. I'd have chosen even a particle board or MDF backing for stability--especially if I were significantly "allergic" to the insulation. Also, the pink foam is cheap, but the acoustic value of it is questionable--higher quality acoustic foam is costlier, but more effective. I'm not overjoyed with the bottom being absolutely open either, especially if this is used in a noisy residential environment (which I'd presume most DIY booths might be)--I know it won't completely eliminate all noise, but if you're already doing it, reducing some frequencies of the noise floor is better than not. And as was mentioned elsewhere, rear reflections tend to be a much bigger problem than the behind-mic reflections that most mics are designed to adjust to already. In comments he replied that two of these could be made to stand back to back, but at that point, I think you're better off considering a completely different design. Still, as with any of these, there are ideas about approach, methods, materials, and design that can feed individuals to develop their own designs. Thanks TSS :)
Do you think this one can prevent the bird and vehicle noise or not? I recorded on the second floor of my house but still hear both of them in my record.
So closing the back actually will begin to reflect more sound. The insulation is what is slowing down/stopping the sound. Thicker insulation would grab more sound
Great video man. one question, there is no back door for this booth, and you said on vocal booth video 1 & 2, the back door is very important, so my question is doesn't it need the back door for this one? doesn't it have reflection because of the lacking back door? Thank you.
add 2 or 3 others and it could work for singing and most situations, also a flat surface like that is just asking for reflection even if the soundproofing is great the acoustic treatment isnt unless you add acoustic panels to these
hello there, you think i could make more panels and create somethng like a drum booth? like surronding my drums in it? would this help to noiz absortion and a little noiz isolation? thanks
Great video. Question, I know recording vocals in a small closet is not recommended, but if I insulate the walls in a small 3x3 closet will it be ok? And if so, should I replace the walls with standard drywall or would you recommend other material?
A vocal booth is literally an acoustically-treated closet. The reason it wouldn't be recommended is if it wasn't acoustically treated. If you were to put acoustic panels up on the walls, ceiling, and the floor isn't concrete, you'd essentially have a vocal booth.
Would you say this method was better than vocal booth 2? As there's no backing for reflections coming back to the front of mic. One other question if that's ok. I built my own vocal booth recently with the rectangle method however I feel it's sounding really boxy even with bass traps. The booth walls are made from plywood with acoustic foam convoluted panels covering top to bottom. The ceiling and booth door are treated the same way and the floor is carpet tile, small rug and thick folded rug. (More so for squeaky flooring)😊. I'm feeling the booth may be too big in length at 110 cm length , 90cm wide and 200cm height therefore is giving me a lot of the booth wood noise possibly. Would you suggest shortening the length of the booth or would blankets in booth 2 be a better option and remove the wood walls altogether to reduce boxiness and boominess. My room sounds reasonable and has some treatment. I feel option 3 could work but I was looking to have it isolated a bit more like booth 2 and was wondering about the return reflections hitting the front of the mic With booth3 Great videos buddy and very informative. Sorry for the long question.
+Robert Durham Music So yes, vocal booth number two is still an effective booth but because it's limited by the thickness of the blankets, I think the results could vary quite a bit. I personally think the R13 insulation in a standard room sounds and works the best. Obviously this is based on my equipment and my experience. So what are your walls exactly made of? Is it plywood covered by one or 2 inch foam? Let me know, thanks
Hey man. Yes that's pretty much it. 3-5 mm plywood with 2 inch thick foam tiles. I placed 2 bass traps in the corners behind the mic facing singer ceiling to knee level. And another 2 along the ceilings of the walls to make the booth less square. I think the ceiling could possibly be too low which is giving me the extra bass but I'm thinking of just going with the producer choice blankets and going with your vocal booth 2 option. I even took the door off the booth to decrease any boxiness. It's a shame as my vocal booth was great and felt a nice place to record. But then if it doesn't sound great it's useless. Thanks for the reply.
Robert Durham Music Yeah that is definitely not what you want to happen after you spend time putting it all together. I unfortunately haven't had good results with those foam acoustic panels. They seem to do the least amount of acoustic damping to a room. The problem you're experiencing sounds like the sound is passing straight through the foam and is being reflected back by the plywood. The reason that the acoustic panels in vocal booth 3 works so well is because there is no reflective surface behind the panel and they're 4 inches thick. If you're not too concerned about how it looks, I would first try draping thick comforters over the foam panels. This should add some extra dampening and reduce the hollow sound.
TrueSoundStudios fantastic man. That's what I was initially going with. Where the sound was bouncing back from the ply. I hung up 2 smaller panels similar to your vocal booth 3 on both sides of the vocalist and kept the bass traps also. However I still feel the ringing is still there based on the fact the ceiling and behind the mic are essentially treated the same as the sides with just ply and foam. I think I need to eliminate the ply and foam and look at doing a hybrid of your 2 and 3 booths. Build the booth 2 frame but have the walls and ceiling made as booth 3. Just fabric and insulation for density. Time consuming yes, extra work maybe lol. But as my studio is in and around an office block to have the isolation is more desirable and beneficial. Outstanding sir thank you for taking the time to help me out with this. Your video content is phenomenal and straight to the point.
Hi - I just made 4 huge acoustic panels with the legs at the bottom same as this. I've also made a roof that fits on top. I used rockwool inside the panels and thick towel material for both the back and front of each panel. Do you think this will be ok for voice over work seen as there's a gap at the bottom? Many thanks!
That's a great question. So if you don't already have acoustic treatment in the room your recording/mixing in, then yes some sort of absorption would be helpful. This also depends on the mic your using and it's polar pattern and how it rejects sound. I wish there was a way to show you how the booth sounds when you are in front of it. The video doesn't do it justice. So in the end, if you don't have acoustic treatment in your recording space, you could built 2 of these booths and leave room between them to go in and out. Or build this booth and built one extra wall to put behind you. Hope this helped!
If I took this idea and made two parts too make a square where it folds away. Then used a ply wood sheet with acoustic foam will this be enough too have clear rap vocals and insolate the sound?
@@RichardRyanOxFilms Richard Ryan I didn't do that exactly I made to walls that stand up. I put the mic in between and used uhual blankets to cover the whole thing like a fort. It worked out good
Nice video. Can I implement this exact method in building a rectangular enclosed vocal booth? I'm asking because on one of your replies you said an over absorbent and enclosed booth isn't a good booth because it over absorbs some necessary frequencies that make the voice full.
Hey so yes you can definitely over-absorb when recording vocals. This does depend on the space your recording in though. So if your room is full carpeted, or is already acoustically treated with more than foam square tiles, it might not be necessary to do the full square booth. So what does the room you're recording in look like? Thanks
TrueSoundStudios Thanks...my room has a bit of space, but not properly treated yet. Although I was hoping I could make a booth like this and have it close to the corner of my room so there's enough space behind the artist and enough treatment in front of the mic. are there other factors I have to worry about
It did not make anything drastic but the idea gave me a better idea on what materials should i use and completely disregard. For anyone reading this, just build the usual booth 4 corners but dont use any playwood just use what this guy use.
Yes that is true but in a music room/studio you should have already treated the space your working in. Then after adding this isolator, you would help stop the reflections from bouncing off the wall in front of you and bouncing around the room.
@@TrueSoundTV Really? So this is only a solution for someone who has a properly-built acoustic studio space? I don't think someone who's building an extreme budget vocal booth is putting this in an actual studio. I, for one, am trying to work out a solution for recording live vocals to perform over electronic tracks. No studio necessary for anything other than the vocals. A booth is all I need. This isn't a booth. It's half a booth at best. I'm not arguing that you haven't given a solution... but I don't think your premise is strong for who might need such a solution and, as such, it's just incomplete.
@@Salsuero is all you do going around this comment section and spreading your negativity? Just be thankful someone is trying to help. And singing into a booth like this will prevent sounds from even entering the room, therefore also reducing reflections coming from behind the vocalist... It's obvious.
@@alexanderkorte-stapff6824 No. That's just all you've read. You can be thankful. But don't tell me how to react. That's what makes people unique. As a professional, I'm gonna let your "this is obvious" revelation fall flat. No one said using something like this wouldn't reduce reflections at all. However, this definitely won't "PREVENT sounds from even entering the room." That logic may be obvious to you... but to me, it's just obviously incorrect.
What sound absorbing material (to reduce room reflections) should I go for, for a song booth frame, that also isn't crazy expensive? It can't be very heavy either, as the frame is made of plastic (pvc-pipes). Is velvet fabric a good choice, or thick duvets? Or a combination? I've heard "moving blankets" can do a good job too. Source for the "blanket song booth":ruclips.net/video/9f9RUUt-tzc/видео.html
@@donnyten2041 My booth simply fell apart. PVC-pipes aren't very rigid when thick duvets/blankets are placed on them. I made a doubled frame with the pipes and the duvets instead, leaning against my living room wall, which will be behind my back when I'm singing. I think this is a better solution. I've read a lot on Sound On Sound and they think these solutions are the best budget alternatives. A booth tends to result in a boxy and unnatural sound, they said, if it's not a premium and carefully designed booth. A frame doesn't take up much space either.
Thank you! So yes i'm going to sell this after i do a video comparing all of these vocal booths. So where do you live anyways? I couldn't ship this, it's too massive.
TrueSoundStudios I live in michigan. I'm just not that good at building things but I am putting together my own studio and need a reflection filter or something like you just built. I must say you post some of the best videos I have seen on RUclips keep up the great work.
Sup bro i live in michigan too warren area am building a studio as well mybe we can link up create shit . i plan on building one of these too i dont mind doing building 2
Thanks for the video. I'm gonna try to do this at home. However I think I'm gonna do two of them so I can have one behind me. Also I will probably use stone wool instead and wrap it in garden fabric like you've done in your later videos when you built your studio.
I have a Question someone said in the comments under A Video you don’t need completely dead room because of room ambience. But when you see those Vocal booths they are always sound completely dead. So what is now right im confused I always thought making it completely dead. So what is right now?
Why did you pick the material R13 fiberglass? That type of material was designed for thermal insulation inside a wall cavity. You don't want to breath the tiny fiberglass particles that will become airborne. R13 wasn't really designed for acoustic treatment for music and speech. So, why didn't you use another material that was designed for music and speech for acoustic treatment?
You need something breathable or it defeats the purpose of the insulation on the inside. Berlap is used a lot for acoustic panels because it is such a porous material (and cheap)
Why would you use fiberglass ? Roxul? Roxul is way better. First hand experience. Doesn’t slump like fiberglass. Had better absorption for low Frequencies, hence most bass traps are made out of roxel in professional studios. It doesn’t itch when handling still use gloves but it’s also friendlier on your health. Once I switched to Roxul it was hands down better in everyday. For roughly 45 to 48 bucks you can get a huge roll of it at Home Depot . Just throwing my two cents in. Nice presentation
Joshua Yusuf I’m currently building a brand new studio and working with a studio designer and the only difference in insulation is whether to use fiberglass or mineral wool insulation. “Sound” insulation is usually just a difference in density and in some cases can actually negatively effect the panels
it does not address the issue of reflections from the front of the microphone/booth. you could have built dual corners and had one in the front and in the back and it really would have made a difference.
Nice video but instead of spending 60€, I'm spending 120€ and I'm building a complete booth with 4 walls. Plus, mine will be filled with acoustic foam attached to the inner parts of the walls. If my vocals don't sound clean with this I'll probably jump off the window xD
You are funny ) Why do you need stay faced to this panels man? If you have shotgun mic on your cam,which capturing the sound just in front of you,so your panels in front of you do zero job,cuz your shotgun mic or typical condenser or dynamic mic which have cardiod diaphragm capture sound only in front of you,so all you need to do stay with your back to this panels,so the sound not bouncing of the walls in front of your mic,and for more effective,you put a small panel on mic stand behind your mic,that will be the most effective way using this kind of rig for record vocals
So Vocal Booth #2 was better than #1 because you enclosed the space. But #3 is better because you used fiberglass insulation and somehow didn't need to enclose the space as a result? I'm calling shenanigans. If you want a "booth" -- it needs to be enclosed. Otherwise, you simply built a couple walls to a booth. I'm not saying it won't be effective, but why is this better than #2 other than using thicker insulation than blankets if the entire back is exposed?
I don't understand why you built the walls with spaces for 15 inches of insulation, when the insulation is manufactured for 16" on center home framing. Why not just make your openings to be 16" on center (yes even with the 1 by pine boards), then there would be no need to cut any insulation except at the ends. The flaps built into the insulation could just be flipped and then stapled. That fiberglass insulation gets nasty when it flies around. You really should use gloves and long sleeves when doing any exposing of the fiberglass.
Claude Albertario 16 on center framing is only the from the center of a 2x4 to the next center. The actual space between the two 2x4s is 14.5 inches which is why insulation is 15 inches so it fits snuggly. No matter what, handling isolation makes the fibers fly around, even gently unrolling it. Also, the more wood you put into an absorber, that makes more reflection points which your trying to avoid.
@@TrueSoundTV Then why is there all the cutting along the edge of the fiberglass insulation showing the pink? It is supposed to be encapsulated. The space was too small, so the sides had to be cut? I don't get it.
it's not a booth fella ... what about the isolation behind you ? you just spent a lot of money doing this and you could just buy those useless front shields they selling everywhere for the same result ... when you press rec, the sound will travel behind you as fast as possible and your booth will be useless cuz the sound will bounce back into you cardioide microphone ... So, you used time, money, space, tools, ... for ... nuttin
how to make your reording boxy and muddy 101. alone the fact, you tell to use BLACK fabric like blue sounds different. those boxboothes are the ebola of audioyoutube. it is at the same time more sibliance while more rumble and will be way worse if you layer 3-4 takes. it gotta sound like those amateurthings sound-worse.
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This tutorial is ineffective and DANGEROUS. Rock wool is toxic and should be covered with more than just fabric. On a second note, rock wool isolates sound, it doesn't dampen it. So it will do nothing to your reverberation. So I'm sorry but no, no, no. Don't imitate this guy, he clearly doesn't know what he's doing.
That's not a booth. That's a corner.
Classic Mail but it works...
@@officialWWM Some. The guy is also using a very expensive microphone for a budget build. Do you think a budget builder has a very expensive microphone? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This works "better" than nothing. But it's an incomplete solution.
Damián "el Salsuero" no offense did he say it was
@@JimTheKid Did who say it was what? Did the youtuber say it was a vocal booth? Yes. Did he say it was a complete solution? I mean... he claims it's the "best" DIY vocal booth... and it's not even a complete vocal "booth". If you're gonna claim it's the best, then by definition, there can't be anything better... and an incomplete solution is beaten by a complete one... so yeah -- he did say it's a complete solution if it's the "best" solution.
Damián "el Salsuero" best to him is different than the best for you
You are pointing the most sensitive part of the microphone outside, towards the untreated room. No wonder it sounds the same as before. You should flip the setup 180°, so that you have the booth behind you with the mic pointing towards it. That way, no reflections go into the front of the mic (since it's pointing towards the booth) and the reverb coming from the room is now behind the mic, therefore it's not picked up.
@REPUBBLICA ITALIANA what does that have to do with it? It is all about the polar pattern. Most of the mics we use are cardiod. He is 100% right ;)
That's an interesting idea! It's definitely worth considering the possible outcomes of using the microphone in the opposite direction. Standing with your back to the vocal booth may indeed help to reduce the amount of background noise that gets picked up by the microphone. It's always good to experiment with different setups and see what works best for your specific situation.
Check this out: I also bought myself a $100 Gazebo / Pergola (200cm x 200cm) and placed it in my basement on a noise absorbing rug. I left the outside "walls" off and placed moving blankets on all five sides. Got myself a 10M led strip for the inside and some bass traps in the corners and foam on the inside off the blankets. Super easy set-up for recording with my D18 and singing at the same time straight into my iPhone using the Roland Go Pro mix. Call me cheap but I just love my little "tent" inside my basement. Nice and cozy. Love your channel man!!
looking at this randomly cuz looking into sound treatment for a small vocal booth and realized you're right down the road ha
I've been an insulation contractor for 30 years stop using Fiberglas, use mineral wool one it's cheaper and it's better sound deadening
Thank you
Yes, at the time I did this video mineral wool was more of an unknown to me. Now I would recommend mineral wool except for one big issue! Fiberglass is now formaldehyde free but mineral wool is not
@@TrueSoundTV i bought Rockwool Mineral wool insulation. It says formaldehyde free 0% formaldehyde. Do you think they still contain formaldehyde even they "NO formaldehyde" is in strongly stated on packaging?
@@TrueSoundTV thanks for the content
i do find the rhetoric in this video is inconsistent with the other video "we don't need to worry about acoustic treatment down here, its really not necessary" in the other videos you mention and actually apply acoustic treatment on the floor.
also, in the 30 dollar booth video you made a full enclosure as opposed to only a corner of treatment
you're a professional and we appreciate you sharing your creativity with us
it would be helpful, for us who are learning, to have consistent principles that build a firm conceptual understanding and application of the material you are sharing with us on this channel
thanks again, really appreciate the content
Joshua Stanford Yes I do understand that this video slightly contradicts what I have now stated in newer videos. This is mainly due to the fact that I have just learned a significant more about acoustics over the years. My vocal booth videos were meant for the starter home recording studio who is just looking to have fun recording their music. If you are interested in a serious vocal booth, it needs to be a very large space and is adequately treated on all surfaces like in my new studio build. As you stated, not worrying about frequencies that are lower towards the floor not being important, that still is true when trying to have a minimal vocal booth set up like this. Focusing the acoustic treatment around the microphone it’s going to be the most effective with a minimal set up like this. In the very near future, I’m going to have a video series on building a home recording studio in a bedroom and going through the entire process of how to make it the most effective with what I now know about acoustics
This is the best video I saw about building a vocal booth :)
easy solution.. order a $15 canvas portable wardrobe from ebay and rap the $40 acoustic blanket around it.
Nope. Too short and not enough depth. Most of them are only 5 feet tall. What if you are 5' 10"" or 6' 2" tall?
@@eman0828 squat :D
@@MickeyMontz That would make recording inconvenient and uncomfortable. Epic Fail! 😂
Eman 08 sit down
Get a 12-cube pack of these, but use the panels to build the booth instead. They fit together kinda like legos and they’re made to be sturdy. Then just cover the inside with foam or blankets:
www.amazon.com/SONGMICS-Organizer-Bookcase-Shelving-ULPC44BK/dp/B07P5D84XQ
It didn't sound better. Needs two more walls....
Bill Karoly Because a Microphone is actually only sensitive from the Front as you might know sou he just needs to turn around.
@@giuliano8031 Some microphones are only sensitive from the front. Others are sensitive all around. Some are better at the directional pattern than others. If you're on this kind of a budget, you're probably not using the greatest vocal microphone. Having the entire backside exposed is where sound will be coming into the microphone. This is half of a booth. It's better than nothing... but it's hardly a booth.
Damián "el Salsuero" Fine, 90% of all Mics are, but the Mic from a Vloging Cam has a cardiod polar pattern.
Damián "el Salsuero" And the backside of a Cardiod mic isthe Nullpunkt if yk yk.
@@giuliano8031 Sure it does. And how good is it? If it's expensive, probably pretty decent. If not, probably less decent. If you're on a budget to build a vocal "booth" it might be nice if it works well for cheaper mics too, which is what folks on a budget might have. Sorry, but I don't speak typo, so your second message doesn't make sense.
I made it but I add Rigid fiberglass so is the pink isolation plus the other one I said and bro! Sounds so cool! Today I recorded black metal vocals and sounds sick AF! Thank you for show me this project bro.
Pink insulation isn't going to do much, you really need to use Rockwool or fiberglass, you would also be better making it a 3 panel so it wraps a bit more around you. just my opinion but good video and idea!
TheMusicman961 pink insulation is fiberglass insulation. That’s what was used, fiberglass insulation. Rockwool would be a bit better to use but since it’s made with formaldehyde, I don’t use it bc it’s known to cause cancer. Look it up, it’s not good and is in all mineral wool, at least as of today
@@TrueSoundTV fiberglas is going to do the job. Its fine
Fiberglass and Mineral insulation are basically equal in this application as this vocal booth is about sound treatment and neutrality rather any type of sound proofing where Rock-wool does a slightly better job. Pink is my suggestion over mineral/rock in most scenarios including soundproofing.
Don’t forget to treat a wall behind your back, that’s the direction the mic is facing.
As others mentioned just need 2 more panels behind the vocalist to make this work.
Lets be honest, is 10cm wool gonna take more noises from outside than isovox if its gonna be closed constuction around mic?
Nice beautiful and easy corner booth i like it.
Great idea, great video
Thank you!
Never underestimate the epic power of blankets/sheets/towels!!! Carpet padding and foam are often available at little to no cost as well. Surprisingly, the cheaper options usually measure up and sometimes even surpass the more popular, hip, "pro" mats. Great job making these videos approachable and simple for those who may not think they can build their own stuff! I happened upon this video looking for software and tech suggestions/opinions. I'm a carpenter but everyone can do this if they are motivated to. Utility and efficiency while achieving great results! Sub'd
The downsides of Blankets and fabric are they absorb high end and Crispiness of a vocal it like a bit muffled. Rockwool and fiberglass will preserve the high frequency information while removing the reflection.
Did you create that instrumental playing in the background ? If so, what's the process of being able to use it for a song?
Yes, all my videos have my own produced and recorded tracks playing. So which song though? There's 2 songs playing in this video? Let me know what time in the video! Thanks for watching!
Very helpful. Thank you
Three walls would have been perfect but I love this idea!
Man, I like your ideas but I'm curious about the audio result if you record while your facing the rest of the room with your back against the booth's walls
Yes, i know. In another video, i was talking about how these vocal booths only stop sound from the back and not the front. The mics have such good rejection from the back that the vocal booth seems a little redundant. Which is why a fully enclosed vocal booth/treated room will always have a better sound. You should really just build 2 of these booths and stand in between the 2 for the most isolation. Thanks for watching!
I got decent results adding sound panels behing me on a wall and using an auralex type vocal backing pad that sits on mic stand..I placed a moving blanket above and I think all I need is some carpet...I'm in a garage so there's lots of noise....maybe this works best if I set it up behind me as a three wall booth with 2 walls being parallel and one being perpendicular? Perhaps some bass traps in the corner?And the top of it with a nice light for a vibe.🤔
Also is anyone knowledgeable on how well the new denim style insulation pads work for studio purposes?I'd rather not deal with fiberglass. Thanks for the video, even if its not perfect it's great that your trying to help people out👍🏻
We used the recycled denim insulation instead of fiberglass. It's pricey, but seems to have good acoustic absorption. Just don't believe the pix of little kids touching it. It may not have the itchy qualities of fiberglass but the amount of dander that it drops during installation is dreadful. It helps a little if you shake it outside before installing. Still need a respirator.
I agree with another comment that the choice of the pink foam is likely to create a messy disaster over time (nothing like breathing fiberglass!), and I think it relates to the goals of the project/booth. While there was some positive dampening effect, some of the construction and material choices (presumably in pursuit of the budget goal) seemed to make it unpractical to use over time. The exposed paper backs are a problem in any studio where people come and go. At the very least he could have thrown fabric over it too. I'd have chosen even a particle board or MDF backing for stability--especially if I were significantly "allergic" to the insulation. Also, the pink foam is cheap, but the acoustic value of it is questionable--higher quality acoustic foam is costlier, but more effective. I'm not overjoyed with the bottom being absolutely open either, especially if this is used in a noisy residential environment (which I'd presume most DIY booths might be)--I know it won't completely eliminate all noise, but if you're already doing it, reducing some frequencies of the noise floor is better than not. And as was mentioned elsewhere, rear reflections tend to be a much bigger problem than the behind-mic reflections that most mics are designed to adjust to already. In comments he replied that two of these could be made to stand back to back, but at that point, I think you're better off considering a completely different design. Still, as with any of these, there are ideas about approach, methods, materials, and design that can feed individuals to develop their own designs. Thanks TSS :)
Do you think this one can prevent the bird and vehicle noise or not? I recorded on the second floor of my house but still hear both of them in my record.
I would scale it up quite a bit and make it 4" thick, and close the back so fiberglass doesn't get in air.
So closing the back actually will begin to reflect more sound. The insulation is what is slowing down/stopping the sound. Thicker insulation would grab more sound
The easiest and best sounding DIY booth I've yet heard. Well done!
Great video man. one question, there is no back door for this booth, and you said on vocal booth video 1 & 2, the back door is very important, so my question is doesn't it need the back door for this one? doesn't it have reflection because of the lacking back door? Thank you.
add 2 or 3 others and it could work for singing and most situations, also a flat surface like that is just asking for reflection even if the soundproofing is great the acoustic treatment isnt unless you add acoustic panels to these
Yes i agree you could build another to make more of a booth!
hello there, you think i could make more panels and create somethng like a drum booth? like surronding my drums in it? would this help to noiz absortion and a little noiz isolation? thanks
Might be a stupid question here but would this work for voice over recording too?
This is a great design! well done!
Thank you, i truly appreciate that!
Great job...+ budget 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Overall a great idea, but....You need anotherone in back to knock down room reflections would you not?
So assuming you have a treated room no, If your room is untreated then that would help even more! Thanks for watching!
You might want to wrap up the insulation with a plastic wrap to avoid irritation for sensitive types.
Great video. Question, I know recording vocals in a small closet is not recommended, but if I insulate the walls in a small 3x3 closet will it be ok? And if so, should I replace the walls with standard drywall or would you recommend other material?
A vocal booth is literally an acoustically-treated closet. The reason it wouldn't be recommended is if it wasn't acoustically treated. If you were to put acoustic panels up on the walls, ceiling, and the floor isn't concrete, you'd essentially have a vocal booth.
Would you say this method was better than vocal booth 2? As there's no backing for reflections coming back to the front of mic.
One other question if that's ok. I built my own vocal booth recently with the rectangle method however I feel it's sounding really boxy even with bass traps. The booth walls are made from plywood with acoustic foam convoluted panels covering top to bottom.
The ceiling and booth door are treated the same way and the floor is carpet tile, small rug and thick folded rug. (More so for squeaky flooring)😊.
I'm feeling the booth may be too big in length at 110 cm length , 90cm wide and 200cm height therefore is giving me a lot of the booth wood noise possibly.
Would you suggest shortening the length of the booth or would blankets in booth 2 be a better option and remove the wood walls altogether to reduce boxiness and boominess. My room sounds reasonable and has some treatment.
I feel option 3 could work but I was looking to have it isolated a bit more like booth 2 and was wondering about the return reflections hitting the front of the mic With booth3
Great videos buddy and very informative. Sorry for the long question.
+Robert Durham Music So yes, vocal booth number two is still an effective booth but because it's limited by the thickness of the blankets, I think the results could vary quite a bit. I personally think the R13 insulation in a standard room sounds and works the best. Obviously this is based on my equipment and my experience. So what are your walls exactly made of? Is it plywood covered by one or 2 inch foam? Let me know, thanks
Hey man. Yes that's pretty much it. 3-5 mm plywood with 2 inch thick foam tiles. I placed 2 bass traps in the corners behind the mic facing singer ceiling to knee level. And another 2 along the ceilings of the walls to make the booth less square. I think the ceiling could possibly be too low which is giving me the extra bass but I'm thinking of just going with the producer choice blankets and going with your vocal booth 2 option. I even took the door off the booth to decrease any boxiness. It's a shame as my vocal booth was great and felt a nice place to record. But then if it doesn't sound great it's useless. Thanks for the reply.
Robert Durham Music Yeah that is definitely not what you want to happen after you spend time putting it all together. I unfortunately haven't had good results with those foam acoustic panels. They seem to do the least amount of acoustic damping to a room. The problem you're experiencing sounds like the sound is passing straight through the foam and is being reflected back by the plywood. The reason that the acoustic panels in vocal booth 3 works so well is because there is no reflective surface behind the panel and they're 4 inches thick. If you're not too concerned about how it looks, I would first try draping thick comforters over the foam panels. This should add some extra dampening and reduce the hollow sound.
TrueSoundStudios fantastic man. That's what I was initially going with. Where the sound was bouncing back from the ply. I hung up 2 smaller panels similar to your vocal booth 3 on both sides of the vocalist and kept the bass traps also. However I still feel the ringing is still there based on the fact the ceiling and behind the mic are essentially treated the same as the sides with just ply and foam. I think I need to eliminate the ply and foam and look at doing a hybrid of your 2 and 3 booths. Build the booth 2 frame but have the walls and ceiling made as booth 3. Just fabric and insulation for density. Time consuming yes, extra work maybe lol. But as my studio is in and around an office block to have the isolation is more desirable and beneficial. Outstanding sir thank you for taking the time to help me out with this. Your video content is phenomenal and straight to the point.
Is there a way to do this with 3 panels and to make a door using the same method?
Hi - I just made 4 huge acoustic panels with the legs at the bottom same as this. I've also made a roof that fits on top. I used rockwool inside the panels and thick towel material for both the back and front of each panel.
Do you think this will be ok for voice over work seen as there's a gap at the bottom?
Many thanks!
suggestion: avoid ultra irritating fiberglass - instead use Roxul. Lowes sells it, sometimes even has it in stock
Great but what about the réflexion from the back do I need an other back panel ?!....
That's a great question. So if you don't already have acoustic treatment in the room your recording/mixing in, then yes some sort of absorption would be helpful. This also depends on the mic your using and it's polar pattern and how it rejects sound. I wish there was a way to show you how the booth sounds when you are in front of it. The video doesn't do it justice. So in the end, if you don't have acoustic treatment in your recording space, you could built 2 of these booths and leave room between them to go in and out. Or build this booth and built one extra wall to put behind you. Hope this helped!
TrueSoundStudios appreciated men am gonna do that thanks for the advise 😀👌
Great idea! I think anyone could make this it's so easy! Thanks for sharing:)
I'm not sure when a "booth" started having only 2 walls. It's half a booth.
Cool classic Linoleum.
Thanks exactly what I needed.
If I took this idea and made two parts too make a square where it folds away. Then used a ply wood sheet with acoustic foam will this be enough too have clear rap vocals and insolate the sound?
That's what I was thinking about doing. Did you do it?
@@RichardRyanOxFilms Richard Ryan I didn't do that exactly I made to walls that stand up. I put the mic in between and used uhual blankets to cover the whole thing like a fort. It worked out good
did you put the top panel without any fixations?
No it was just sitting up there
Nice video. Can I implement this exact method in building a rectangular enclosed vocal booth? I'm asking because on one of your replies you said an over absorbent and enclosed booth isn't a good booth because it over absorbs some necessary frequencies that make the voice full.
Hey so yes you can definitely over-absorb when recording vocals. This does depend on the space your recording in though. So if your room is full carpeted, or is already acoustically treated with more than foam square tiles, it might not be necessary to do the full square booth. So what does the room you're recording in look like? Thanks
TrueSoundStudios Thanks...my room has a bit of space, but not properly treated yet. Although I was hoping I could make a booth like this and have it close to the corner of my room so there's enough space behind the artist and enough treatment in front of the mic. are there other factors I have to worry about
Bro it's cool is that portable
It did not make anything drastic but the idea gave me a better idea on what materials should i use and completely disregard.
For anyone reading this, just build the usual booth 4 corners but dont use any playwood just use what this guy use.
The microphone is picking up more of whats behind you then whats in front. ..
Yes that is true but in a music room/studio you should have already treated the space your working in. Then after adding this isolator, you would help stop the reflections from bouncing off the wall in front of you and bouncing around the room.
@@TrueSoundTV Really? So this is only a solution for someone who has a properly-built acoustic studio space? I don't think someone who's building an extreme budget vocal booth is putting this in an actual studio. I, for one, am trying to work out a solution for recording live vocals to perform over electronic tracks. No studio necessary for anything other than the vocals. A booth is all I need. This isn't a booth. It's half a booth at best. I'm not arguing that you haven't given a solution... but I don't think your premise is strong for who might need such a solution and, as such, it's just incomplete.
@@Salsuero is all you do going around this comment section and spreading your negativity? Just be thankful someone is trying to help.
And singing into a booth like this will prevent sounds from even entering the room, therefore also reducing reflections coming from behind the vocalist... It's obvious.
@@alexanderkorte-stapff6824 No. That's just all you've read. You can be thankful. But don't tell me how to react. That's what makes people unique.
As a professional, I'm gonna let your "this is obvious" revelation fall flat. No one said using something like this wouldn't reduce reflections at all. However, this definitely won't "PREVENT sounds from even entering the room." That logic may be obvious to you... but to me, it's just obviously incorrect.
You should have done a sound quality test
How much does it cost to build
That anberlin shirt though 👀
Is it possible to organize your videos on your playlist option by category? Its hart to find your DIY booth videos
Do u mix films in 5.1 surround?
What sound absorbing material (to reduce room reflections) should I go for, for a song booth frame, that also isn't crazy expensive? It can't be very heavy either, as the frame is made of plastic (pvc-pipes).
Is velvet fabric a good choice, or thick duvets? Or a combination?
I've heard "moving blankets" can do a good job too.
Source for the "blanket song booth":ruclips.net/video/9f9RUUt-tzc/видео.html
You made it yet?
@@donnyten2041 My booth simply fell apart. PVC-pipes aren't very rigid when thick duvets/blankets are placed on them. I made a doubled frame with the pipes and the duvets instead, leaning against my living room wall, which will be behind my back when I'm singing. I think this is a better solution. I've read a lot on Sound On Sound and they think these solutions are the best budget alternatives. A booth tends to result in a boxy and unnatural sound, they said, if it's not a premium and carefully designed booth. A frame doesn't take up much space either.
Great video. Are you going to do anything with the vocal booth? I would buy it from you if your willing to sell it?
Thank you! So yes i'm going to sell this after i do a video comparing all of these vocal booths. So where do you live anyways? I couldn't ship this, it's too massive.
TrueSoundStudios I live in michigan. I'm just not that good at building things but I am putting together my own studio and need a reflection filter or something like you just built. I must say you post some of the best videos I have seen on RUclips keep up the great work.
Lazy American lol
Sup bro i live in michigan too warren area am building a studio as well mybe we can link up create shit . i plan on building one of these too i dont mind doing building 2
outtaplace ! I would be interested in hearing qhat you all crwate together. im in Boston.
The beat at 5:52 tho
Nice video. How would I do this in 4x4x8 or 3x3x7 with a door and 4 sides?
+Sknee G hey, so are you asking me how to build a vocal booth with acoustic panels to that size?
yes that would be helpful
Hi. From your video it didn't appear to make much difference to the audio. I like how you constructed it though.
Thanks for the video. I'm gonna try to do this at home. However I think I'm gonna do two of them so I can have one behind me. Also I will probably use stone wool instead and wrap it in garden fabric like you've done in your later videos when you built your studio.
I have a Question someone said in the comments under A Video you don’t need completely dead room because of room ambience.
But when you see those Vocal booths they are always sound completely dead.
So what is now right im confused I always thought making it completely dead.
So what is right now?
you can add reverb back in if tis dead no biggie
Mr. Free Yeah thank you very much, I figured it out since but thanks for your efforts.
Why did you pick the material R13 fiberglass? That type of material was designed for thermal insulation inside a wall cavity. You don't want to breath the tiny fiberglass particles that will become airborne. R13 wasn't really designed for acoustic treatment for music and speech. So, why didn't you use another material that was designed for music and speech for acoustic treatment?
Instead of fabric how would thin carpet work? They sell the black carpet at menards
You need something breathable or it defeats the purpose of the insulation on the inside. Berlap is used a lot for acoustic panels because it is such a porous material (and cheap)
great job
Thank you!
Why would you use fiberglass ? Roxul? Roxul is way better. First hand experience. Doesn’t slump like fiberglass. Had better absorption for low Frequencies, hence most bass traps are made out of roxel in professional studios. It doesn’t itch when handling still use gloves but it’s also friendlier on your health. Once I switched to Roxul it was hands down better in everyday. For roughly 45 to 48 bucks you can get a huge roll of it at Home Depot . Just throwing my two cents in. Nice presentation
I heard the difference as soon as you walked into the booth
What booth? He walked up to the corner of an acoustically-treated wall.
Probably could have used sound insulation and it woulda been a little better, good video and idea though!
Joshua Yusuf I’m currently building a brand new studio and working with a studio designer and the only difference in insulation is whether to use fiberglass or mineral wool insulation. “Sound” insulation is usually just a difference in density and in some cases can actually negatively effect the panels
4:28 a square ayy?
yes....it is called square in mathematics :)
@@theincorporateartist8422 I knowwwww, it was a joke homie, cause its shaped like a triangle
@@theincorporateartist8422 I knowwwww, it was a joke homie, cause its shaped like a triangle
acoustic room or vocal booth?
Vocal booth!
thanks, discovered acoustic foam on the wall cost a little to much for my liking anyhow
DO NOT BUILD THIS... Insulation will get all over your studio 💯
it does not address the issue of reflections from the front of the microphone/booth. you could have built dual corners and had one in the front and in the back and it really would have made a difference.
Sell it?
Hello from Orchard Park!
Hey!!!! That's awesome!!
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Nice video but instead of spending 60€, I'm spending 120€ and I'm building a complete booth with 4 walls. Plus, mine will be filled with acoustic foam attached to the inner parts of the walls. If my vocals don't sound clean with this I'll probably jump off the window xD
Foam? That's the worst
You are funny ) Why do you need stay faced to this panels man? If you have shotgun mic on your cam,which capturing the sound just in front of you,so your panels in front of you do zero job,cuz your shotgun mic or typical condenser or dynamic mic which have cardiod diaphragm capture sound only in front of you,so all you need to do stay with your back to this panels,so the sound not bouncing of the walls in front of your mic,and for more effective,you put a small panel on mic stand behind your mic,that will be the most effective way using this kind of rig for record vocals
No difference, really. I listened through headphones... no difference.
4:22 square?
Yeah it's that orange 90 degree tool!
It's called a speed square
Playback @ 2x speed...
It looks like a monolith...like off of 2001...lol...
Can you mix and master my track ?
Hey, so yes i can but unfortunately i'm waiting on my new studio to be built. It will be at least a month but i can do that for sure!
So Vocal Booth #2 was better than #1 because you enclosed the space. But #3 is better because you used fiberglass insulation and somehow didn't need to enclose the space as a result? I'm calling shenanigans. If you want a "booth" -- it needs to be enclosed. Otherwise, you simply built a couple walls to a booth. I'm not saying it won't be effective, but why is this better than #2 other than using thicker insulation than blankets if the entire back is exposed?
Younnever test them!. Why would i want to hear drill sounds bro
I don't understand why you built the walls with spaces for 15 inches of insulation, when the insulation is manufactured for 16" on center home framing. Why not just make your openings to be 16" on center (yes even with the 1 by pine boards), then there would be no need to cut any insulation except at the ends. The flaps built into the insulation could just be flipped and then stapled. That fiberglass insulation gets nasty when it flies around. You really should use gloves and long sleeves when doing any exposing of the fiberglass.
Claude Albertario 16 on center framing is only the from the center of a 2x4 to the next center. The actual space between the two 2x4s is 14.5 inches which is why insulation is 15 inches so it fits snuggly. No matter what, handling isolation makes the fibers fly around, even gently unrolling it. Also, the more wood you put into an absorber, that makes more reflection points which your trying to avoid.
@@TrueSoundTV Then why is there all the cutting along the edge of the fiberglass insulation showing the pink? It is supposed to be encapsulated. The space was too small, so the sides had to be cut? I don't get it.
LMFAO
Lol that’s a wall. I couldn’t hear the difference.
Do it on 2x....thank me later
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it's not a booth fella ... what about the isolation behind you ? you just spent a lot of money doing this and you could just buy those useless front shields they selling everywhere for the same result ... when you press rec, the sound will travel behind you as fast as possible and your booth will be useless cuz the sound will bounce back into you cardioide microphone ...
So, you used time, money, space, tools, ... for ... nuttin
“Booth”
how to make your reording boxy and muddy 101. alone the fact, you tell to use BLACK fabric like blue sounds different. those boxboothes are the ebola of audioyoutube. it is at the same time more sibliance while more rumble and will be way worse if you layer 3-4 takes. it gotta sound like those amateurthings sound-worse.
Im h oing to vet 4 v clothes ra ls snd use the auilts and lankets thst i havr at home to see i g it deadrn som d of the d ounds anf a. Amping light for my light
...half a vocal booth ;)
weezna? really?
I did it too. This is what I used Woodglut designs for
Waste of time
Professional booth my arse dont give up your day job
This tutorial is ineffective and DANGEROUS. Rock wool is toxic and should be covered with more than just fabric. On a second note, rock wool isolates sound, it doesn't dampen it. So it will do nothing to your reverberation. So I'm sorry but no, no, no. Don't imitate this guy, he clearly doesn't know what he's doing.
ur doing it wrong.