I removed my crashbars and changed them for lower ones that sit below the side covers. Handle bar take most of the beating when you drop it. Like these lower bars much better. Less weight, and the weight is down low, which together with some other modifications you definetely notice. Also, you can stick your leg out in a corner without hitting the crash bars.
On my T7 I mounted Puig high crash guards. They're not as firm like the bigger cages but they only weigh 3.4 kgs and they're only for radiator protection. I also have case protectors (+400 grams), barkbusters (+175 grams) and some plastic frame protectors. I think this is the best protection you can have whilst keeping weight at a minimum.
The crash guard from Puig is with only 2 mounting points and could easily bend and cause more harm than protection in the case of accident. This makes it pointless weight on your motorcycle.
Looks good, Pavlin. I think that crash guards on Adventure motorcycles make sense. Most of the times the bike will dropped at low speeds due to difficult terrain and/or rider error. They add weight but save money in the long run!
@@motorcycleadventures 11:43 how is holding clutch brake pedals you have spare with u all time? and how is new tires? better then continital from old tenere
It might be a unpopular opinion but I think the full guards look better. The bike already looks rally ready and sort of utilitarian and the full crash bars give it an even more rugged cool look.
Tenere 700 is so top havy and hard to stay upright. That i put heed top crashbars. I try to make it bulletproof. The best crashbars are from outbreck but they are extremly high priced. Heed crashbars can be used with small bags from heed. Its very usefull. I just go in way when i drop it , nothing bad happens. I have to change exhaust on top next, because oem protrude very much. Im 182cm tall and its too havy bike for me. And i have oem springs, where is inproper sag. When i change springs motorcycle will be yet taller. So i will be droping it anyway and live will go on :). One good option are givi crashbars BUT that before euro5 colector exhaust. They are not top heavy and have good mounting design. I would buy them for no euro5.
I see one big plus with top crashbars and bags on them. Its wind protection for knees and legs. Now with 7 deegres i can ride with decent heat comfort. And second. When it droped its not so flat on the ground. Its more "easy" to get it up.
I really appreciate your honest opinion and attitude, I would like to know what you think of new Honda Transalp for a mid weight adventure bike. Since u own a Tenere which is the main opponent.
Like your style in many aspects, have followed your channel for a long time, your upgrading of the bike has been complementary,👍 please don't tell me you doing the rear shock next😂😜⚡⚡⚡⚡
Nice !!does this heavy duties part hit the forks ,below the headlight,when are at full direction to left or right?? You know,like your friends t7 at previous video...
Hi, am recently become your content follower from Kenya. I have liked the article on crash guards. Kindly help me find out from your guard manufacturers if my bike a Yamaha xt 225 Serow has or can have a crash guard and if so, the best place to attach plus the best shape of this guard as I have liked their design. Kindly, Paul, Nairobi Kenya.
Pavlina the proof is behind us. Nike looks good. The extra weight is more than worth the protection. Now you have mounting points for auxiliary lights. Take care.
What about the issue you identified when mounting the lower crash bars that is the forks tend to bang on the upper crash bars when turning the steering to the max?
take a narrow motorcycle so that it does not touch the ground with its sides when falling, hang heavy upper bars on it so that they touch the ground. Logically! 👏
Upper crash bars have pros and cons: Pros: - Protect gas tank from sliding and getting on fire - Protect from plastic/cosmetic damage - In combination with metal spine hand guards, offer much better protection to bike during low and medium speed crashes - Works better than crash sliders, by dividing impact force on few points, crash slider will simply break bolt while screwed in engine. - Mounting point for led light or action camera Cons: - Can/may grab your knee or leg - Do not protect gear or brake foot lever in case of crash DURING INSTALLATION its very important to support engine/bike from under, with car lifter, to remove stress on bolts, otherwise, you may experience weird vibrations afterwards at certain RPM. Support engine from under and tighten bolts in star formation little by little. 11:35 - You can see why is important to have extended rear passenger foot pegs at all times, they help in crash to put more distance. 11:47 - You can see that brake lever will not survive crash, its touching wood, and there is more space to be lost once handlebar is turned to some side.
Ist seems the stuff Form heavydutys is realy good. If i wouldnt own the outback guards this one would be a Great Alternative. I wish i knew this Company earlier. By the way i only regognize heavydutys because of you. Maybe i get the luggagerack Form them. Greetings Tobi
Friendly advice, here is problem your way of thinking. We do not drive RR motorcycles to care about high centre of gravity. We already have gas tanks of 17-20 LITERS of fuel at high centre of gravity. Little by little you adjust to it, but peace of mind, that you have protection of gas tank cannot be compared to situations when you dont have it. And we speak about 6kg on 200kg bike... calculate percentage.
@@orion310591RS."we don't care about a high center of gravity"..that's just not true, it's probably the biggest complaint on the t7 by its owner's., and if you look at the modern adventure bikes( tuareg, 890 adv, t7 world raid) a lower COG is one of the main concerns, and 6kg even on a 200kg bike if it's placed higher on the bike afects it's handling. Offcorse if you only ride straight on the highway that probably Dosent matter
Thanks Pavlin I'm currently running about on two different motorcycles at the moment, (not at the same time🤣🤣) one is 2004 transalp finding it hard to brake. I've had the old Mitas endruro 07 on riden it quite hard and managed 11,000 so not bad, so I'm sticking with the front and going with the 07+ for the rear 👍
I remember times when Pavlin criticized such stuff as these heavy accessories. And now a huge skid plate and heavy crash bars. Soon we'll see a top box and side racks:) Advertisement...
March 2023; 'Tenere 700 Modifications Hype - This Madness Needs to Stop!' 🙂 yeah, you tried to explain in the video, but getting yourself covered from all angles, just sounds like an excuse. I'm sad to see your channel going more and more mainly about selling; sponsors, patreon, ... Good for you so you get some free stuff. But bad for viewers as I see that the contents is suffering because of it (yes my opinion and it is what it is...)
So you prefer to write this comment instead of just saying "Thanks for the information!" What I sell and what sponsors I have should not concern you in any way, but...it is what it is! Thanks for taking the time, anyway!
I removed my crashbars and changed them for lower ones that sit below the side covers. Handle bar take most of the beating when you drop it. Like these lower bars much better. Less weight, and the weight is down low, which together with some other modifications you definetely notice. Also, you can stick your leg out in a corner without hitting the crash bars.
Thanks for sharing!
True, and if the drop is hard, it bends the handlebar clamp (the incorporated bolt).😢 45€ to replace it.
Which ones You Have? @Gwiedert
Excellent camera mounts for different angles!
True!
You can attach small luggage bags to those crash bars to move some luggage weight forward...
No need!
On my T7 I mounted Puig high crash guards. They're not as firm like the bigger cages but they only weigh 3.4 kgs and they're only for radiator protection. I also have case protectors (+400 grams), barkbusters (+175 grams) and some plastic frame protectors. I think this is the best protection you can have whilst keeping weight at a minimum.
The crash guard from Puig is with only 2 mounting points and could easily bend and cause more harm than protection in the case of accident. This makes it pointless weight on your motorcycle.
@@motorcycleadventures True they're more of a one time use crash guards. They are also connected to each other at the front via a connection bar.
It's always soothing to hear the "if you have nothing to do........" Part
Good!
Very useful content as usual. Really enjoy what you do.
Much appreciated!
makes a great place to hang the washing overnite when you are camping as well :)
True
Regarding the upper hitch in the front part of the chassis, they have solved the problem that it had when hitting the fork bars
Yes
"It is what it is" is my new motto.
Good!
That's a good design.
Fits well and does exactly what it should.
Hopefully not put to the test too often!
Safe happy travels 👍
Fingers crossed!
Looks good, Pavlin. I think that crash guards on Adventure motorcycles make sense. Most of the times the bike will dropped at low speeds due to difficult terrain and/or rider error. They add weight but save money in the long run!
Agree
@@motorcycleadventures 11:43 how is holding clutch brake pedals you have spare with u all time? and how is new tires? better then continital from old tenere
Thank you Pavlin for the review. My opinion: upper guard also gives you more flexibility for the bike.
Fair enough!
Always interesting content, Pavlin! Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a CB 500X and both lower and upper crash guard from Givi. I never want to drop my bike. But safety is first!
Good!
Your Advices always logical dear !
Glad you think so!
It might be a unpopular opinion but I think the full guards look better. The bike already looks rally ready and sort of utilitarian and the full crash bars give it an even more rugged cool look.
Fair enough!
Tenere 700 is so top havy and hard to stay upright. That i put heed top crashbars. I try to make it bulletproof. The best crashbars are from outbreck but they are extremly high priced. Heed crashbars can be used with small bags from heed. Its very usefull. I just go in way when i drop it , nothing bad happens. I have to change exhaust on top next, because oem protrude very much. Im 182cm tall and its too havy bike for me. And i have oem springs, where is inproper sag. When i change springs motorcycle will be yet taller. So i will be droping it anyway and live will go on :). One good option are givi crashbars BUT that before euro5 colector exhaust. They are not top heavy and have good mounting design. I would buy them for no euro5.
Thanks for sharing!
I see one big plus with top crashbars and bags on them. Its wind protection for knees and legs. Now with 7 deegres i can ride with decent heat comfort. And second. When it droped its not so flat on the ground. Its more "easy" to get it up.
Another great video Pavlin….what bash plate are you using?
ruclips.net/video/kC7r8m50Z1U/видео.html
Great thumbnail! 😀
Thanks! 😁
I really appreciate your honest opinion and attitude, I would like to know what you think of new Honda Transalp for a mid weight adventure bike. Since u own a Tenere which is the main opponent.
I still haven't see it in real and cannot say much.
Camel ADV makes a radiator frame guard that protects the sides of radiator. $180, let’s you ride without crash bars, but the fairing is unprotected
Like your style in many aspects, have followed your channel for a long time, your upgrading of the bike has been complementary,👍 please don't tell me you doing the rear shock next😂😜⚡⚡⚡⚡
I won't! I already changed the spring on it.
@@motorcycleadventures dam I must have missed that one😜
ruclips.net/video/7GhCd0euGGA/видео.html
@@motorcycleadventures Thanks I've seen it 👍👍👍 I mentioned the rear shock (back)
I told that I changed you only the spring of the shock.
Nice !!does this heavy duties part hit the forks ,below the headlight,when are at full direction to left or right??
You know,like your friends t7 at previous video...
Not any more. This problem was fixed after my first video.
Hola se ha solucionado el tema del soporte delantero de las defensas que al girar la dirección golpea la horquilla?
Yes
Hi, am recently become your content follower from Kenya. I have liked the article on crash guards. Kindly help me find out from your guard manufacturers if my bike a Yamaha xt 225 Serow has or can have a crash guard and if so, the best place to attach plus the best shape of this guard as I have liked their design. Kindly, Paul, Nairobi Kenya.
Check their website Paul. Link in the description.
Nice 👍🏼, now you can mount LED pods.
No need them.
Pavlina the proof is behind us. Nike looks good. The extra weight is more than worth the protection. Now you have mounting points for auxiliary lights. Take care.
Thanks for watching, Sam!
Omg Pavlin is this guard also connected to the spider that hold your front light?
Yes
What about the issue you identified when mounting the lower crash bars that is the forks tend to bang on the upper crash bars when turning the steering to the max?
It is fixed from the company. No problems any more.
Have lower crash bars on my Tiger 900… do I need uppers for riding mostly gravel and dirt rides. I am thinking not. Thoughts?
Whatever works for you.
Hi, I noticed you have removed the upper crash bars completely. What makes you change your mind?
I never liked it, but mostly weight. I feel it much lighter now.
take a narrow motorcycle so that it does not touch the ground with its sides when falling, hang heavy upper bars on it so that they touch the ground. Logically! 👏
Yes, it does not touch the ground on the flat terrains, on the dirt roads it is a different story.
How did you extended the engine protection? Welded a piece of aluminum?
Yes
Upper crash bars have pros and cons:
Pros:
- Protect gas tank from sliding and getting on fire
- Protect from plastic/cosmetic damage
- In combination with metal spine hand guards, offer much better protection to bike during low and medium speed crashes
- Works better than crash sliders, by dividing impact force on few points, crash slider will simply break bolt while screwed in engine.
- Mounting point for led light or action camera
Cons:
- Can/may grab your knee or leg
- Do not protect gear or brake foot lever in case of crash
DURING INSTALLATION its very important to support engine/bike from under, with car lifter, to remove stress on bolts, otherwise, you may experience weird vibrations afterwards at certain RPM. Support engine from under and tighten bolts in star formation little by little.
11:35 - You can see why is important to have extended rear passenger foot pegs at all times, they help in crash to put more distance.
11:47 - You can see that brake lever will not survive crash, its touching wood, and there is more space to be lost once handlebar is turned to some side.
Fair enough!
@@motorcycleadventures I have Honda CB500X and I have upper crashbars since I got new motorcycle.
Its just me and my way of thinking...
Good!
What brand are the lower crash guards ?
Ist seems the stuff Form heavydutys is realy good. If i wouldnt own the outback guards this one would be a Great Alternative. I wish i knew this Company earlier. By the way i only regognize heavydutys because of you. Maybe i get the luggagerack Form them. Greetings Tobi
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Your bike is cleaner than mine 😀
Ok
You dont need the lower crash bar to save your case when falling.. thats what your leg is for
👍
Thanks!
Hey, how is the comfort after this change? Is your knees toutching the guard ?
No! The same as before.
do you have any plans to put a higher seat?
Not for now.
The problem is adding 6 kg so high on the motorcycle, when it already has a high centre of gravity, but it is what it is..
I can live with it. It is much better than 40kg on the tail (panniers and top box)
Friendly advice, here is problem your way of thinking. We do not drive RR motorcycles to care about high centre of gravity. We already have gas tanks of 17-20 LITERS of fuel at high centre of gravity. Little by little you adjust to it, but peace of mind, that you have protection of gas tank cannot be compared to situations when you dont have it.
And we speak about 6kg on 200kg bike... calculate percentage.
@@orion310591RS."we don't care about a high center of gravity"..that's just not true, it's probably the biggest complaint on the t7 by its owner's., and if you look at the modern adventure bikes( tuareg, 890 adv, t7 world raid) a lower COG is one of the main concerns, and 6kg even on a 200kg bike if it's placed higher on the bike afects it's handling. Offcorse if you only ride straight on the highway that probably Dosent matter
@@man87907 OK, for clarification, I dont own T7, I own CB500X, what I wanted to say is pros are over cons. In my opinion.
Hi Pavlin
This is a tyre question in you opinion how many miles do you expect to get out of the Mitas 07+ on you bike at the moment
Not less than 10,000km
Thanks Pavlin I'm currently running about on two different motorcycles at the moment, (not at the same time🤣🤣) one is 2004 transalp finding it hard to brake. I've had the old Mitas endruro 07 on riden it quite hard and managed 11,000 so not bad, so I'm sticking with the front and going with the 07+ for the rear 👍
Какая смешная превьюшка на ролике 😀
I remember times when Pavlin criticized such stuff as these heavy accessories. And now a huge skid plate and heavy crash bars. Soon we'll see a top box and side racks:)
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I thought that I explained my decision very well in the video, but...
Hi. I was wondering if you are on discord so I can follow you there. Ty. Enjoy your videos.
Yes, I am
Could you please let me know how to find you on there. I’m fairly new to discord. Ty.
Between a rock and a hard place when looking for endurance...
Good!
nice mod to do m8
Good!
U changed so much, u used to not like to put crash guard on your bike, at this rate, u will end up with R1250GS
If you say so...
your test is on the flat surface. On the off-road is complete different situation
True and I never said the opposite.
10:56 you just said ".... impossible to hit the ground" but in off-road situation everything is possible.
March 2023; 'Tenere 700 Modifications Hype - This Madness Needs to Stop!' 🙂 yeah, you tried to explain in the video, but getting yourself covered from all angles, just sounds like an excuse.
I'm sad to see your channel going more and more mainly about selling; sponsors, patreon, ... Good for you so you get some free stuff.
But bad for viewers as I see that the contents is suffering because of it (yes my opinion and it is what it is...)
So you prefer to write this comment instead of just saying "Thanks for the information!" What I sell and what sponsors I have should not concern you in any way, but...it is what it is! Thanks for taking the time, anyway!
@@motorcycleadventures ' the contents is suffering because of it ' was my feedback to you. you can do something with it... or not...
If I was listening to people I wouldn't even have this RUclips channel, thanks anyway!