www.twitch.tv/alexensual **UPDATE** THEY ARE NOW MASS REPORTING RECRUITERS FOR DEFIANT IN GAME, PICKLEGAMING NOW CANT CHAT BECAUSE HE GOT MASS REPORTED BY TIMELOST MEMBERS
Remember kids don't do any dungeons before we give you permission or we'll remove you from our welcoming "community". Also you're only allowed to run each dungeon one time death = deleet and remember to buy your leveling guide
Ah yes. Classic WoW community destroying itself yet again. The biggest problem of Classic are the community and the players. Be it Toxicity, GDKP, gold buying or the best: SoD Parsing. Classic Community is worse than Retail, especially if we talk about elitism.
i agree... as a new wow player in general (or more like returning after more than a decade) the lack of tolerance for a noob tank is depressing. everybody expects you to know the dungeons and raids inside out, but nobody is willing to help you learn
@@windblownleaf6450 i’m in the same boat but i have on this server at least never had anyone be a dick but i am mostly healing. i tanked one and no issues. but i definitely in the past have had people that if you don’t know everything already they can’t just help you
classic players in my experience just completely ignore you and don't even bother throwing a buff on you now and then. the community is worse than retail. it's a shame because the game itself is pretty fun.
I wanted to play this server so bad…i got to level 14 and all ready i see all the toxcitiy and drama involved with it i cant even. Which is what led me to your videos lol
This type of behavior is such an insane turn off for me to play Classic, and it happens time and time again. These people obviously have incredibly suppressed egos, that as soon as they get even a HINT of power, they take it to wild extremes. What's worse is, this is basically the same nonsense that happened when people tried to do Hardcore. They created what is effectively a leveling challenge at best. There are no hard rules here. Everyone has to agree to do it in good faith, and if they don't you can't stop them. Its meant to be FUN. But these people trying to pretend like they are kings of a kindergarden turn a fun idea about Classic into a joke, make themselves look like absolute clowns along the way, and probably show Blizzard this is not a movement to be respected. Why does this keep happening with Classic over and over? The game is amazing, but some how people just can't help but ruin it.
It's like Jordan Peterson said, "Abdicated responsibility is turned into the power wielded by tyrants." Most people just want to have fun with the game, so they're not going to do much. Unfortunately, that leaves only the power-hungry to take the positions of power in the communities. I think this is the inevitable fate of classic, as it always had this veneer of a nostalgic holiday resort rather than a serious experience. Consider: can you name me one person who is seriously trying to play Classic as a full-fledged game? I haven't really heard of anyone making their name in Classic, and most people in WoW sphere treat it as more of an event ("oh hey, we get to re-experience those old things and stuff! cool!")
I just cant find a fuck to give tbh. This is what the 6th or 7th? such fresh project attempted on Era servers. Hmmm wonder what happened to all the others. They are just like little events, all gone in a few months. But hey for SoD/Hc people I suppose that is a long time.
@@Alexensualtv I presume you mean back in the day before the official servers for HC. Bloodsail these days is VERY different and has no such nonsense going on. I've been there for months now in the only major alliance guild, which is VERY laid back and mostly just a leveling/social guild.
These guys are literally roleplaying as Gamemasters lmao, they can't control the server or what people do on the server, nor should they be allowed to get the entire server to blacklist people for playing the game normally outside of their self-made challenge. Blizzard should ban these guys for impersonating GMs.
This is why I'm not even bothering leveling on this server. If y'all accomplish a real fresh, that's great, but playing with these Timelost gatekeeping psychos doesn't sound like any fun at all. If you end up on the bad side of any these discord mods, you get kicked out of the movement and have your time wasted. It's very clearly not about whether you're going to abide or not, it's because they don't like you.
@@Jbarish It's not about that at all. It's the fact one of the overlords have the power to smite you and make you unable to be apart of Fresh if you get on their bad side. I shouldn't have to play politics and walk on egg shells to be able to play the game lol.
omg that gatekeeping will kill the movement. There have been several "fresh" movements in the past at EU whitout thease bullshit rules. Whit almost 10x population. Really exciting to do Aq20 and BWL whit fresh toons. Nobody wants to be stuck in MC for months for no-reason. I get the "fresh" appeal I really do but 3k pop will dwindle really fast belive me.
i seen this in the discord days ago and i just said i’ve played with defiant and people can play how they want and we can do the phase as it’s set up. like does it really matter 😂 issue is people with there little following started the movement and have to feel entitled over a video game.
This is why I have lost nearly all of my love for modern Hardcore and Classic players. It's gatekept with increasingly politically oriented players, and streamers who ursurp servers by only supporting their viewership and attacking anyone not falling in line (aka PoS streamers in the style of Staysafe, which helped ruin original Hardcore and Classic). I hope for some of the new vanilla+ pservers to gain enough success to survive a couple years. An example is Project Epoch with systems and strong rules created in an attempt to mitigate the poison gatekeeping guilds bring to the game.
these unofficial "official" discords are cancerous, they are used most of the time to enforce arbitrary social rules, or to make sure some circle jerk of discord mommies has them locked down so no ones feelings can be hurt. i rolled on herod back in 2019, that "official" discord still has discord mommies starting drama in it, and the server has been shutdown since 2022.
Great video, I hope they don't find out that you are hard ressing me the zulian tiger in ZG...I hope my slow ass can get to 60 soon, cause lord knows my retail andy ass is taking forever. Shoutout to those that are supporting and hanging with having a good time PPC
14:54 Wait, so this Jay guy can be innocent until proven guilty but Alex and Defiant aren’t? Even though there’s no evidence that they have or will deviate from the fresh phases.
@@richard-wn2us it's not bullshit, alliance has been super chill. People are starting to branch out and make their own guilds and the AH activity is starting to pick up really well. Best classic experience I've personally had in a very long time
I genuinely think the classic community is so mentally ill from spending years and years being obsessed with this game. It has to be a genuine illness. Allodar would be VERY smart to "get ahead of this" like Jffty said and distance the fresh movement from Timelost. No small dad gamer channel thats barely surviving can hold up against being cancelled. When drama like this happens people only want one thing "blood". And Honestly Jfty couldnt scream more that there is literally ZERO proof lol. No one would be getting called out like this on youtube claiming to have evidence and not post it. I mean the constant back and forth of "well ill show you my proof when you show me yours" screams he doesn't have shit lmao. Straight up some shit a young child would say lol.
Every male wants power this is like some game on thrones power shit and people r worried about the power Alex maybe they are scared of losing control power = controlling other people this drama will kill the movement
Hoping asmon signal boosts this. Gatekeeping shit like this is just weird behavior. It seems like these guys have seen the growth / success of your channel on twitch since your comeback and don't want to see you succeed.
As soon he understood their rmt plans they tried to make him leave. I just dont get how he not anticipated this shit with all the experience he have. Guess he dont have choice and ended making content on all this cringe lords. And for them guess they try to turn the drama into pub stunt and gaslight people by accusing alex what they exactly do. 100% AWR again. Sadly. These people are insane and have only wow as income.
Lol. Imagine playing with someone and you get blocked and banned from the discord because you're not playing a game by their rules. If this doesn't scream how the world has been the last 4 years I don't know what. I'm willing to bet the people that are doing this are calling people fascists. Unreal
Glad to see the wow community isn’t fried since I left. Not cringe or lame at all. 🥱🥱🥱🥱 Edit: just to be clear OP is fine, the guy who tries to put these limits on is actually just sad. Imagine him irl. Putrid.
www.twitch.tv/alexensual **UPDATE** THEY ARE NOW MASS REPORTING RECRUITERS FOR DEFIANT IN GAME, PICKLEGAMING NOW CANT CHAT BECAUSE HE GOT MASS REPORTED BY TIMELOST MEMBERS
It's crazy how much drama can be funneled from 500 people dead server
Remember kids don't do any dungeons before we give you permission or we'll remove you from our welcoming "community". Also you're only allowed to run each dungeon one time death = deleet and remember to buy your leveling guide
imagine gatekeeping this. just wow.
Ah yes. Classic WoW community destroying itself yet again.
The biggest problem of Classic are the community and the players. Be it Toxicity, GDKP, gold buying or the best: SoD Parsing.
Classic Community is worse than Retail, especially if we talk about elitism.
i agree... as a new wow player in general (or more like returning after more than a decade) the lack of tolerance for a noob tank is depressing. everybody expects you to know the dungeons and raids inside out, but nobody is willing to help you learn
@@windblownleaf6450 i’m in the same boat but i have on this server at least never had anyone be a dick but i am mostly healing. i tanked one and no issues. but i definitely in the past have had people that if you don’t know everything already they can’t just help you
classic players in my experience just completely ignore you and don't even bother throwing a buff on you now and then. the community is worse than retail. it's a shame because the game itself is pretty fun.
I wanted to play this server so bad…i got to level 14 and all ready i see all the toxcitiy and drama involved with it i cant even. Which is what led me to your videos lol
IMO community events like the "We want Fresh" movement naturally lead to gatekeeping. It was the same with unofficial HC on bloodsail buccaneers.
This type of behavior is such an insane turn off for me to play Classic, and it happens time and time again.
These people obviously have incredibly suppressed egos, that as soon as they get even a HINT of power, they take it to wild extremes.
What's worse is, this is basically the same nonsense that happened when people tried to do Hardcore.
They created what is effectively a leveling challenge at best. There are no hard rules here. Everyone has to agree to do it in good faith, and if they don't you can't stop them.
Its meant to be FUN.
But these people trying to pretend like they are kings of a kindergarden turn a fun idea about Classic into a joke, make themselves look like absolute clowns along the way, and probably show Blizzard this is not a movement to be respected.
Why does this keep happening with Classic over and over? The game is amazing, but some how people just can't help but ruin it.
It's like Jordan Peterson said, "Abdicated responsibility is turned into the power wielded by tyrants." Most people just want to have fun with the game, so they're not going to do much. Unfortunately, that leaves only the power-hungry to take the positions of power in the communities.
I think this is the inevitable fate of classic, as it always had this veneer of a nostalgic holiday resort rather than a serious experience. Consider: can you name me one person who is seriously trying to play Classic as a full-fledged game? I haven't really heard of anyone making their name in Classic, and most people in WoW sphere treat it as more of an event ("oh hey, we get to re-experience those old things and stuff! cool!")
I just cant find a fuck to give tbh. This is what the 6th or 7th? such fresh project attempted on Era servers. Hmmm wonder what happened to all the others.
They are just like little events, all gone in a few months. But hey for SoD/Hc people I suppose that is a long time.
The 9th crusade 😅
Literally watched one vanilla stream and saw a rogue in that guild with r9 or r10 wearing pvp gear 😂
You can take the private servers away from the classic player… but you can’t take the private server drama out of the classic player
some people have told me this reminds them strongly of the gatekeeping on hardcore wow on bloodsail buccaneers
@@Alexensualtv I presume you mean back in the day before the official servers for HC.
Bloodsail these days is VERY different and has no such nonsense going on. I've been there for months now in the only major alliance guild, which is VERY laid back and mostly just a leveling/social guild.
ROFL we have nothing like this on pservers
These guys are literally roleplaying as Gamemasters lmao, they can't control the server or what people do on the server, nor should they be allowed to get the entire server to blacklist people for playing the game normally outside of their self-made challenge. Blizzard should ban these guys for impersonating GMs.
You don't get it. We don't care if you do whatever on the server, but we will NOT play with you.
i'd reroll alliance and perma camp them. Clearly words aren't doing the job and they will not listen to reason.
maybe you guys should do that xD
Old Alex style vid 😮
Alex was right. Always has been.
This is why I'm not even bothering leveling on this server. If y'all accomplish a real fresh, that's great, but playing with these Timelost gatekeeping psychos doesn't sound like any fun at all. If you end up on the bad side of any these discord mods, you get kicked out of the movement and have your time wasted. It's very clearly not about whether you're going to abide or not, it's because they don't like you.
There’s multiple guilds no, can always just hop in one of the other ones lol
@@Jbarish It's not about that at all. It's the fact one of the overlords have the power to smite you and make you unable to be apart of Fresh if you get on their bad side. I shouldn't have to play politics and walk on egg shells to be able to play the game lol.
@@hesssy How are you not able to be a part of Fresh? Theyre just a guild..
turtle sisters!?
So much for a "tight-knit community". Neckbeard levels are off the charts. Imagine the smell.
omg that gatekeeping will kill the movement. There have been several "fresh" movements in the past at EU whitout thease bullshit rules. Whit almost 10x population. Really exciting to do Aq20 and BWL whit fresh toons. Nobody wants to be stuck in MC for months for no-reason. I get the "fresh" appeal I really do but 3k pop will dwindle really fast belive me.
This is one of the cringiest and most childish WoW drama I've seen and heard of even in a while.
i seen this in the discord days ago and i just said i’ve played with defiant and people can play how they want and we can do the phase as it’s set up. like does it really matter 😂 issue is people with there little following started the movement and have to feel entitled over a video game.
Now you just need to get mass reported and false banned for a month to complete the modern classic experience
this aged well
Is there a Zandalar Tribe discord? ( or what is the discord for EU fresh? )
The drama seems to always come back…
"Its not what they have broken, its what they are going to break in the future." 🤣 whats this minority report
As if classic wow didnt already have an insane ammt of gatekeeping.. these guys say "hold my beer"
This is why I have lost nearly all of my love for modern Hardcore and Classic players. It's gatekept with increasingly politically oriented players, and streamers who ursurp servers by only supporting their viewership and attacking anyone not falling in line (aka PoS streamers in the style of Staysafe, which helped ruin original Hardcore and Classic). I hope for some of the new vanilla+ pservers to gain enough success to survive a couple years. An example is Project Epoch with systems and strong rules created in an attempt to mitigate the poison gatekeeping guilds bring to the game.
How old is this server?
Good old era and classic crowd.. always drama though the roof
Bunch of angry, lonely boomers
i’m in the discord and i’m pretty sure most people still just play with whoever least i do lol. seemed after some backlash they just stopped caring
these unofficial "official" discords are cancerous, they are used most of the time to enforce arbitrary social rules, or to make sure some circle jerk of discord mommies has them locked down so no ones feelings can be hurt. i rolled on herod back in 2019, that "official" discord still has discord mommies starting drama in it, and the server has been shutdown since 2022.
Grown adults btw. :)
For true community in wow classic /who Legacy on Grobbulus Era.
Shine the light Alex, expose it all 🔥
whats funny is that all of them are mostly 40-50 years old man smh.
Great video, I hope they don't find out that you are hard ressing me the zulian tiger in ZG...I hope my slow ass can get to 60 soon, cause lord knows my retail andy ass is taking forever. Shoutout to those that are supporting and hanging with having a good time PPC
I hope this is satire
@@Barneyfife5998how dense are you?
@@Barneyfife5998 brotherrrr
private servers>classic wow. less toxic
Definitely not Warmane😂
skyfury was the real fresh server moment.
I was there bro. Best wow vibe I've ever seen.
14:54 Wait, so this Jay guy can be innocent until proven guilty but Alex and Defiant aren’t? Even though there’s no evidence that they have or will deviate from the fresh phases.
Yup
🐢
Turtle sisters?
Man, horde side has gotten so dramatic. Glad I rolled alliance, people are starting to make their own guilds and no one cares. Community feels great
Agreed, 100%
You should come play on the new felmyst server! :D
Turtle is the only way.
Seeing free for all pvp between "factions" is stupid.
Alex was right once again... How can one man be never wrong. Truely the main character of Classic WoW.
if i was defiant i would just start raiding naxx this is dumb
Alex - can you run your own Discord? We can all join there =D
They just can't help but bring the drama to you
Gotta love the guild drama in classic wow. Immature but entertaining at times.
Went back to Turtle WoW and will not return.
We don't have this BS on alliance 😂
That’s bullshit
@@richard-wn2us Example, please:
@@richard-wn2us it's not bullshit, alliance has been super chill. People are starting to branch out and make their own guilds and the AH activity is starting to pick up really well. Best classic experience I've personally had in a very long time
@@jibbone-leelong1657 i’m jealous lol
@@justinboyd4097 come on over homie!
Bro we just want to play classic wow. Fuck all this other shi
You just know the next piece of drama is going to be people receiving gold from possum characters left on DD to buy their epic mounts.
I genuinely think the classic community is so mentally ill from spending years and years being obsessed with this game. It has to be a genuine illness. Allodar would be VERY smart to "get ahead of this" like Jffty said and distance the fresh movement from Timelost. No small dad gamer channel thats barely surviving can hold up against being cancelled. When drama like this happens people only want one thing "blood".
And Honestly Jfty couldnt scream more that there is literally ZERO proof lol. No one would be getting called out like this on youtube claiming to have evidence and not post it. I mean the constant back and forth of "well ill show you my proof when you show me yours" screams he doesn't have shit lmao. Straight up some shit a young child would say lol.
Great vid title...
good watch keep calling em out fuck em
I am happy that i play on cata with no drama
Every male wants power this is like some game on thrones power shit and people r worried about the power Alex maybe they are scared of losing control power = controlling other people this drama will kill the movement
in other words Alex hasn't done anything wrong.. for once :P haha jk
Every male? Why specifically male?
yeahhh they should have stuck with HC
AWR
Hoping asmon signal boosts this. Gatekeeping shit like this is just weird behavior. It seems like these guys have seen the growth / success of your channel on twitch since your comeback and don't want to see you succeed.
As soon he understood their rmt plans they tried to make him leave. I just dont get how he not anticipated this shit with all the experience he have. Guess he dont have choice and ended making content on all this cringe lords. And for them guess they try to turn the drama into pub stunt and gaslight people by accusing alex what they exactly do. 100% AWR again. Sadly. These people are insane and have only wow as income.
they just dont like you and looking for reach arounds to get you annexed.
crazy nerd drama
Cmon Alex just come to twow and be done with blizzard + shit community
Yeah, so he can hang out with panda bears, learn kung fu, and train his Pokémon pets?
@@russelladams9147 it’s like you help to make my argument stronger
JUICY
Lol. Imagine playing with someone and you get blocked and banned from the discord because you're not playing a game by their rules. If this doesn't scream how the world has been the last 4 years I don't know what. I'm willing to bet the people that are doing this are calling people fascists. Unreal
4 years lol more like 25
Good
The biggest enemy to classic are the idiots that treet it like this. Its leveling right now and there acting like you guys are doing Nax
Glad to see the wow community isn’t fried since I left. Not cringe or lame at all. 🥱🥱🥱🥱
Edit: just to be clear OP is fine, the guy who tries to put these limits on is actually just sad. Imagine him irl. Putrid.
AWR