Phil Perry Weighs In on Jayden Daniels vs Drake Maye Debate - Who Fits Patriots?

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  • @PatriotsPressPass
    @PatriotsPressPass  10 месяцев назад +2

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  • @trnaughton
    @trnaughton 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great analysis. These guys are proper pundits.
    No hot take ranty nonsense.

  • @SD-zx1uh
    @SD-zx1uh 10 месяцев назад +3

    Lifelong Pats fan, first time listening to this podcast, clicked because I saw Phil Perry on (smart business move haha) but Taylor Kyle’s sounds very knowledgeable he should be a scout in the future! Will listen again to this podcast in the future!

  • @theworkingprogressive127
    @theworkingprogressive127 10 месяцев назад +48

    Can’t even express how much I hate the ads.

    • @Shadowolf2609
      @Shadowolf2609 10 месяцев назад +1

      I was thinking the same way

    • @anthonyterry7787
      @anthonyterry7787 10 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed. Its pretty gross

    • @TallestFiddle
      @TallestFiddle 10 месяцев назад +2

      Oh man I love the ads, you don’t like them? Weird

    • @jinavl
      @jinavl 10 месяцев назад +2

      yt is going down the toilet

    • @theworkingprogressive127
      @theworkingprogressive127 10 месяцев назад

      @@TallestFiddle 😂

  • @justinmurray1343
    @justinmurray1343 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the show Taylor!!!!! 2 of the best Patriots Beat reporters!!!!!

  • @5020maine
    @5020maine 9 месяцев назад +1

    May hasn’t proved anything to me he just have the size NFL teams love

  • @patman147
    @patman147 10 месяцев назад +7

    After a week of news crushing Drake, I appreciate the Drake Maye appreciation on this podcast.

  • @digginginthecards
    @digginginthecards 10 месяцев назад +3

    Taylor Kyles has a great voice and delivery.

    • @SD-zx1uh
      @SD-zx1uh 10 месяцев назад

      I agree, this is my first time listening to him just want him to slow down a bit

  • @stanleywalus9771
    @stanleywalus9771 10 месяцев назад +3

    Four years older. I witnessed three years watching JD playing QB @ ASU stadium. Had problem finding secondary targets. Prefered tucking ball and run. Suggestion get Herm Edwards on and get his oppion of his former QB. Luck @ Indy ran right out of football. JD frame would lead to injury??? How that would impact his career sitting on bench mending an injury.

  • @michaellalli7693
    @michaellalli7693 10 месяцев назад +5

    I like both Daniels and Maye. Jayden Daniels needs to add 15-20 pounds, looks like a stiff wind or linebacker could put this kid in the hospital. Maye has a high ceiling and is still a dual threat.

    • @stanleywalus9771
      @stanleywalus9771 10 месяцев назад

      When he adds 15-20 lbs will he lose his mobility. Then how effective will he be

    • @michaellalli7693
      @michaellalli7693 10 месяцев назад

      @@stanleywalus9771 significantly decreased

  • @kenm8436
    @kenm8436 10 месяцев назад +5

    Drake Maye is Cam Newton circa 2020. A big guy who can run and has the arm to throw a beautiful 50-yard pass, and the consistency to throw a 5-yard out in the dirt or to a WR in triple coverage right after that.

    • @justinevans182
      @justinevans182 10 месяцев назад +2

      Man Maye isn't a tenth of the runner that Cam was. It's not a fair comparison for Maye

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love Jaden and Drake. Either way, they are both playing in cold weather environments, Washington and New England. I believe Drake will be better in the cold, but eventually we’re going to find out regardless.

  • @theantandthebull
    @theantandthebull 10 месяцев назад

    excellent analysis l. Didn’t agree with the absolutes though such as what Drake or JD can or can’t physically do. They will both get stronger and for JD bigger. Everyone knows that a 23 or 21 year old male is not done maturing mentally and physically. SO what it boils down to is who will have the better coaching and team support- Oline, Wrs etc

  • @costo34ify
    @costo34ify 10 месяцев назад +2

    Maye is the guy.6 foot 5 huge hose.age. has some wheels.perfect to compete against J Allen.

  • @williamveasey6801
    @williamveasey6801 10 месяцев назад +4

    Jayden Daniels reminds me of Robert Griffin III coming out of college. I know Washington has a new brain trust but I wonder if what happened with Griffin gives them second thoughts about Daniels. So Drake Maye to the Pats is questionable.

    • @ricocappucci4940
      @ricocappucci4940 10 месяцев назад +2

      RGIII was my fist thought watching J. Daniels, very talented with small frame. Also love Maye, reminds me of J. Allen.

    • @CapShotzVideo
      @CapShotzVideo 10 месяцев назад

      Football ain’t a game for fear !!! If he ain’t scared why should you be lol 😆

    • @RodneyMichael416
      @RodneyMichael416 10 месяцев назад

      Daniel run like a football player, RG3 ran like a track star and couldn’t slide. Daniel has the IQ to get down and avoid unnecessary hits.

  • @unrulybill
    @unrulybill 10 месяцев назад +2

    Alltop 3 picks will be playing in cold weather

  • @goldenbear8250
    @goldenbear8250 10 месяцев назад

    JJ McCarthy is the most complete pick.
    Arm, feet, legs, FB IQ, character, and a winner.

  • @aubrey44
    @aubrey44 10 месяцев назад +1

    90 plays of 20+ yards from Jayden Daniels.. Jesus Christ. Yall xan have Maye, we are taking Daniels with the #2 pick.. Hail to the Commanders

    • @bgorg1
      @bgorg1 10 месяцев назад +1

      Please no. Httr

    • @aubrey44
      @aubrey44 10 месяцев назад

      @@bgorg1 let me guess, you want Sam Howells understudy?

  • @BatManokov
    @BatManokov 9 месяцев назад

    Jayden needs to go to the Patriots!!!!

  • @michaelvoisine7075
    @michaelvoisine7075 10 месяцев назад

    I’m with Phil. Patriots get J Daniels and a big athletic offensive line. 😊

  • @Sincere1747
    @Sincere1747 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great way to say absolutely nothing new... It's Daniels or bust... Drake Meh? He must remind them of Brady or something if they're thinking of going that direction

  • @CapShotzVideo
    @CapShotzVideo 10 месяцев назад +2

    Mannn I hope we don’t take maye at 2 🙄😒😆

  • @youngpower24
    @youngpower24 10 месяцев назад +2

    Look at all the Super Bowl champion QBs and you will see one thing they all have in common is they are big body, resilient individuals (Brady, Mahomes, Manning, Stafford, Foles). Even Russ for a shorter guy is built solid. When was the last time some agile scrambling QB like Daniels won the Super Bowl? Can’t think of it.

  • @jaisriram295
    @jaisriram295 10 месяцев назад +5

    They need a QB just to give the fans something to cheer for after the past 2 years

    • @Mooseman327
      @Mooseman327 10 месяцев назад

      Nope. They need to fix the OL, get a couple of decent receivers (either by draft or trade), sign a free agent QB or two, and plug a couple of other holes on defense (edge rusher, nose tackle, another CB). Plugging Drake Maye into this crap will look like four more years of Mac Jones.

  • @jzm6403
    @jzm6403 10 месяцев назад

    Pass on them both. Maye is a long term prospect (if he makes it) and Daniels is a one read QB like Fields but with different mechanics. He can't run as fast as Fields either. Pats should trade down a bit and chose Bo Nix or Michael Penix instead of Daniels. Forget Maye anywhere in round one.

  • @jeanrwhite7068
    @jeanrwhite7068 10 месяцев назад

    Listen jaylen or Harrison with 3 pick is way too go. The problem with maye he seems to need more around him to be successful than the other 2. I know people want a quarterback and I get it. But smart patriots fan’s know we have a bunch of holes to fill. If you keep the 3 pick draft the best left on board regardless of position.

  • @flyingelvis8850
    @flyingelvis8850 10 месяцев назад

    Taylor Kyles & Phil Perry both broke down the Pro's & Con's for QB's Drake Mayes & Jayden Daniels perfectly.
    ---Playing in cooler New England with a small frame and small hands could negatively effect Jayden Daniels.
    ---Drake Mayes has larger hands and a larger frame. But his footwork sucks.

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      you can fix bad mechanics, you can't fix small hands

  • @dennisbanks8606
    @dennisbanks8606 10 месяцев назад

    I think the smart move is to clean slate and draft QB at 3 and keep Mac. Have open competition for job. Need 2QBs in the league anyway. Idc about Zappe he can try too whatever. And Jacoby Brisket. All 4 battle with equal full support!!

    • @mikethomas4628
      @mikethomas4628 10 месяцев назад +1

      Mac is getting traded to the jags his hometown and I think we will also get a vet QB to train whoever we draft, get a few good receivers, fix the oline and grab a few defensive pieces

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      clean slate but keep Mac and Zappe lol brilliant take

  • @btspyglass4077
    @btspyglass4077 10 месяцев назад

    So whose arm does Daniel's compare?

  • @hopsnbarley8309
    @hopsnbarley8309 10 месяцев назад +2

    I wish someone would look into Daniel’s’ numbers vs pressure, which are apparently much worse than Caleb or Mayes’ numbers. When a very mobile guy also has bad numbers vs pressure I think that says that he’s not processing well.

    • @Gabepmarcx
      @Gabepmarcx 10 месяцев назад +1

      Daniels is the best of all Qb’s under pressure…
      PFF Article : In 2023, he faced pressure on 25.5% of his dropbacks and in these situations, he had a PFF grade of 82.2 and a passer rating of 123.5. While he didn’t face a ton of pressure, he was really effective when he did, and this is extremely important for quarterback prospects.

  • @Breyzn
    @Breyzn 10 месяцев назад

    Maye all day. The ability to drive the ball in the seem.

  • @Nighthawk-8050
    @Nighthawk-8050 10 месяцев назад

    Jayden Daniels will be the new franchise qb of the Washington Commanders end of story.

    • @justsaying3594
      @justsaying3594 10 месяцев назад

      I fear this may happen and we may have another RG# situation. I honestly don't know much about this kid and hope unlike RG# he can recognize defenses pre-snap? Can he keep his eyes down field? One positive is he doesn't appear to have the unearned ego Griffin had.

  • @carletonbate6269
    @carletonbate6269 10 месяцев назад

    After watching Chris Simms rank Maye 6th, I think I’m no longer sold on Maye. Penix though, got me overthinking. Dude looks the part.

    • @pete6705
      @pete6705 10 месяцев назад

      I don’t know why they change the rankings so much after the season is over. Everyone thinks Maye is #2 at the end of the season, so I’m not sure why he’s moving down now

    • @ChuchuJS
      @ChuchuJS 10 месяцев назад

      Maye is going to have a better career than all of them …

    • @bgorg1
      @bgorg1 10 месяцев назад

      Simms ranking seals Maye as best prospect- it’s like the Cortana effect- pick the opposite of Simms

  • @Chris-tf5ci
    @Chris-tf5ci 10 месяцев назад +3

    I think all Boston media crazy. Trade back get tackle and wide receiver and trade up for pennix. Get Barkley and Tyrone from Dallas. Run the ball this year. Probably still suck get QB next year if needed

  • @marway99
    @marway99 10 месяцев назад

    CALEB MUCH BETTER!! CALEB HAVE LOTS OF MOVES FOR PRESSURE! YOU CANNOT SEE THAT TO JAYDEN AND DRAKE MAYE! FOR ME CALEB IS BETTER!

  • @ald7248
    @ald7248 10 месяцев назад

    Jayden Daniels not wanting to come here is no cap. JD only walked it back because it sends the wrong message to GMs.

  • @lkark10
    @lkark10 10 месяцев назад +7

    Drake Maye sucks.. he is a taller Zach Wilson.

  • @ddavidone6538
    @ddavidone6538 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can’t understand why Penix isn’t top 3 talk. It’s either his age, injuries or his left hand because dude can place the ball like none other. Not as mobile but best overall arm talent by far in my book

    • @toddoswald6324
      @toddoswald6324 10 месяцев назад

      Injuries and isn't able to up his game when needed.

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      when he has time in the pocket he's better than everyone in the draft, the problem is when there's pressure he's below average

  • @Brian-ro7st
    @Brian-ro7st 10 месяцев назад

    Better question: why does it matter? Only one of these dudes is available at 3.

  • @dodu8281
    @dodu8281 10 месяцев назад

    there shouldnt be a debate at all. daniels is ascending, maye is declining. and there is still a month to go.

  • @Gbird71
    @Gbird71 10 месяцев назад

    You know another QB who was big, smart, and athletic and they said had a great arm? Jimmy G.

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      nobody except the cheerleaders thought jimmy was big

    • @Gbird71
      @Gbird71 10 месяцев назад

      @@lucascaron4145 The draft experts did

    • @ricocappucci4940
      @ricocappucci4940 10 месяцев назад

      LOL, 64th pick out of E Illinois, not even in the same solar system!

  • @lordm91
    @lordm91 10 месяцев назад

    It's not about the size of the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog. This is a fare question I'm about to ask every Patriots fan out there. If we had Lamar Jackson over these past few years. Where do you think we would be right now? Would you guys take Lamar or any Drake Maye Comparison?

    • @da_suntoucha7219
      @da_suntoucha7219 10 месяцев назад +2

      And that’s my entire point ..Due to Bills Bias we missed out on Lamar..I mean this is Boston and they’re still looking for that great white hope…Brady is gone the league has changed!!

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      @@da_suntoucha7219 brock purdy just made the super bowl, and lamar continues to choke, hasn't changed much!

  • @joshuat7171
    @joshuat7171 10 месяцев назад

    Do you really want to draft a QB now? Why not trade back for more draft capital and build your team for a year or two.
    Next year Shedur Sanders is coming out and the year after that is Arch Manning.
    I’d build the trenches and take my QB of the future when the team is ready to rock. That’s just me.

  • @stanleywalus9771
    @stanleywalus9771 10 месяцев назад

    Remember Eli Manning getting his preference

  • @ponce1741
    @ponce1741 10 месяцев назад

    If you will start tight now jayden….if is someone that gonna sit and learn slowly drake

  • @mrcaliguy8694
    @mrcaliguy8694 10 месяцев назад

    Maye is the way!

  • @Gbird71
    @Gbird71 10 месяцев назад +5

    I still don’t get the Maye hype.

    • @CapShotzVideo
      @CapShotzVideo 10 месяцев назад

      Me either all they say is he looks like a NFL Qb not he plays like one but looks like one 🙄🤔😆

    • @Gbird71
      @Gbird71 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@CapShotzVideo yep he’s big and strong about it

    • @kingyatya4798
      @kingyatya4798 10 месяцев назад

      Me to

  • @tuffyburton1258
    @tuffyburton1258 10 месяцев назад

    Daniels's arm strength concerns me. I'm not sure he's got a strong enough arm to play in the northeast climate.

  • @austinlowell8829
    @austinlowell8829 10 месяцев назад +2

    The answer is MHJ 🤷‍♂️

  • @da_suntoucha7219
    @da_suntoucha7219 10 месяцев назад

    No Maye…No Way!!!

  • @stanleywalus9771
    @stanleywalus9771 10 месяцев назад

    A 15 min interview. Your kidding me. That is what going to make your decision. One question to JD-why ASU players didn't miss himm when mhe left ASU. Good question to ask. Next Tyler Murray??? At 6'-4" and weighing 200 lbs. Injury about to happen. He is also 23, should have filled out by now.

  • @HiTuab
    @HiTuab 10 месяцев назад

    Ill take Tom Brady

  • @dewittfiala5021
    @dewittfiala5021 10 месяцев назад +3

    Horribly overrating everything about Maye
    Big arm? When? Lol.
    Great runner? Show me one time he ran away from any defense
    He’s lucky if he’s Sam Darnold

  • @lordm91
    @lordm91 10 месяцев назад +6

    I keep saying this. If Jayden Daniels isn't there at pick #3, take MHJ, then trade up for a OT with the next pick either way. If we can't get Jayden at Qb this year. Bet the farm for Sanders next year but I really want Jayden Daniels for our team because of everything he will fix asap

    • @da_suntoucha7219
      @da_suntoucha7219 10 месяцев назад

      Thk u…. Their will never be another Brady… we need a mobile qb

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      @@da_suntoucha7219 Daniels has smaller hands and a smaller brain

  • @eriks.uperpatriot5817
    @eriks.uperpatriot5817 10 месяцев назад +5

    Jayden Daniels has the frame of Tom Brady when he was a rookie. I have a Tom Brady rookie card that lists him at 199 lbs. 🤣
    Except Tom was a pocket passer.

    • @obarbeito
      @obarbeito 10 месяцев назад

      That's the problem, Jayden takes a lot more hits than Brady because he runs a lot and breaks the pocket a lot. That's exactly the problem...

    • @Phil_Williamson
      @Phil_Williamson 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@mattHutch26Daniels is 6'4" as well.

    • @mattHutch26
      @mattHutch26 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Phil_Williamson seriously shit my fault continue

    • @lucascaron4145
      @lucascaron4145 10 месяцев назад

      @@Phil_Williamson doesn't look it

  • @fredranahan8976
    @fredranahan8976 10 месяцев назад

    wait..years ago was it Peyton Manning who was drafted in the first round..and refused to play for that team???

  • @ricocappucci4940
    @ricocappucci4940 10 месяцев назад

    JJ McCarthy is NOT a top 4, not even close. McCarthy had a great team, Michigan did NOT win because of him. If the Patriots trade down to get him they are only saving money, it is that simple.

  • @stanleywalus9771
    @stanleywalus9771 10 месяцев назад

    When a running QB wins a SB then I will get on board. When it is fourth and four on four yard line and his natural instinct is to run the four yards for TD to win game. I will every day take TB and the four yards over any running QB. The mental part of game over physical ability every day of the week. The rules of the game protects the QB today. Can't touch them. Watch Mahomes get extra yardage when near sideline because defense eases up.

  • @eriks.uperpatriot5817
    @eriks.uperpatriot5817 10 месяцев назад +1

    I edge Drake Maye over Daniels because of where they would be playing football, outside in the northeast weather of New England.
    I do not want to rush Maye into playing this season. Especially if the O-Line is not in a good situation yet.

  • @ricocappucci4940
    @ricocappucci4940 10 месяцев назад

    Mac Jones the 2nd with JJ McCarthy, another kid that has not shown that he has NFL talent.

  • @abraham4961
    @abraham4961 10 месяцев назад

    Neither, best to draft MHJ.

  • @paulieprinceton4550
    @paulieprinceton4550 10 месяцев назад

    Maye. How is this even a question. Daniels seems like an inferior version of Justin Fields. He is relatively old, skinny, has a tendency to take big hits, doesn’t have a strong arm and doesn’t really attack the middle of the field like most successful NFL QB’s. Daniels also had a good OL and elite skill players that helped make him look good. He is less than a year younger than Justin Fields which doesn’t bode well for his ability to add size while maintaining his athletic ability. Being skinny and taking big hits is not a good combo for a dual threat QB.

  • @da_suntoucha7219
    @da_suntoucha7219 10 месяцев назад

    I’m convinced that y’all want another Mac Jones… SMH

  • @2Loco4U
    @2Loco4U 10 месяцев назад

    Maye is a bust. I'm kinda of sick of the media 😂

  • @obarbeito
    @obarbeito 10 месяцев назад +1

    None, pick JJ and move on. He's a hybrid between Maye and Daniels. Big, accurate, runs, players and coaches love him, has a cannon of an arm and is younger. He's the future.

  • @Nick98765
    @Nick98765 10 месяцев назад

    100% Maye
    bean pole daniels will be a bust

  • @fernandojr.5064
    @fernandojr.5064 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jayden is way more elite than maye.....Maye reminds me to much of a Baily ZAPPE

    • @6XNEPATS6X
      @6XNEPATS6X 10 месяцев назад

      I would be concerned about how who would potentially performs better in bad weather. Whose game fits that better. I think maye is the better fit

  • @mikemurray726
    @mikemurray726 10 месяцев назад

    Jayden will be gone 💯

  • @TheOmengod
    @TheOmengod 10 месяцев назад

    I think the NFL is going through a terrible trend of falling in love with the running quarterback. A passer that can also scramble is not a running quarterback. Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson Patrick Mahomes are not running QBs.I don't want my quarterback to have any intention of running the ball and I don't think his receivers want either. The quarterbacks job in the NFL is to throw the ball. Will we ever see high-level quarterback play in the NFL again? Doubtful. Remember Tom Brady?

    • @Ellis_Hugh
      @Ellis_Hugh 10 месяцев назад +1

      Fortunately, Daniels isn't a 'running quarterback', given that his passing statistics bury Caleb Williams and Drake Maye's alike.
      Jayden Daniels numbers are SO much better than Drake's AND it happened against a tougher level of competition. They're better than Caleb Williams as well and it's not even close. Seriously, look at this:
      Jayden Daniels - QBR 208.0 (highest in CFB history)
      236 of 327 (72.2%) for 3,812 yards (11.7 ypa), 40 TD's and 4 INT's
      Drake May - QBR 149.0
      269 of 425 (63.3%) for 3,608 yards (8.5 ypa), 24 TD's and 9 INT's.

  • @toddoswald6324
    @toddoswald6324 10 месяцев назад

    No, Marvin Harrison Jr, then move back up in the draft for JJ McCarthy. Marvin Harrison Jr is a generational wide receiver. He may be the best wide receiver in the NFL once he arrives.
    Everyone says the quarterback is the most important position, the receiver makes the quarterback. (except Mahomes and Brady) I'm certain that Daniels style of play will land him on the injury list. If you look at JJ McCarthy he has escape ability and can throw dimes on the run. When he scrambles it is to buy time to find someone open. If he does have to run he is more than capable. We discount what JJ can do because he was part of an offense and not the whole offense while they were on their way to a championship.

  • @kenm8436
    @kenm8436 10 месяцев назад

    I don't quite get why Phil says "Imagine Drake Maye in two years playing with Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas". In two years Nabers and Thomas will still be with the teams that drafted them, probably in the 1st round. No matter which QB we pick. It's highly unlikely Nabers & Thomas will ever be on the Pats. When their rookie deal is up they'll probably be re-upped by their original team, cost a king's ransom in free agency or bust, in which case we probably would want them.

    • @da_suntoucha7219
      @da_suntoucha7219 10 месяцев назад +1

      I believe they were just referring to a league where all those guys are playing

    • @talanosvyr8166
      @talanosvyr8166 10 месяцев назад +2

      He was making a hypothetical scenario. If Maye was at LSU and the same age as Daniels (2 years older) playing with those WRs, how would he perform?

  • @Mooseman327
    @Mooseman327 10 месяцев назад +5

    Trade down. Fix the roster with the extra pick (or picks). THAT'S what you do here. Unless you're an idiot. Then, you take Drake Maye at #3 and become the NY Jets.

    • @donaldrowe8460
      @donaldrowe8460 10 месяцев назад +1

      exactly!

    • @mikemurray726
      @mikemurray726 10 месяцев назад +2

      So when your in need of a Quarterback like we certainly are. Where do you draft them if not in a top pick? Supposed to grab a 5th rounder? Or the third overall pick?

    • @mikemurray726
      @mikemurray726 10 месяцев назад +1

      Welp looks like we are definitely in need of a Quarterback unless you wanna ride with Zappe. Mac is gone. Post did not age well but you were incorrect from the jump anyways. It’s a Quarterback league. So we need one of those.

  • @mrcaliguy8694
    @mrcaliguy8694 10 месяцев назад

    Daniels gone be a BUST

  • @fernandojr.5064
    @fernandojr.5064 10 месяцев назад

    DONT NOT DRAFT MAYE HE IS A NOTHER ZAPPE