All four characters have strong points and diversity. Andi- Chinese descent and a result of teen pregnancy Cyrus- is Jewish and LGBT AND has a boyfriend (in the series finale, of course; it should have gotten one more season) Buffy- is of African descent, a huge feminist, and an Army brat (someone whose parent(s) is active in the military) Jonah- suffers from panic attacks There's also Amber, who is fully aware that being mean has no positives to it and also has a family who is struggling financially. There's also Bex and CeCe who don't get along early in the series. This is the best Disney live-action sitcom in a long time, and no one will EVER change my mind.
@@zach_melik Oops I seen that once she said it (I'm in the middle of watching the video rn) and I couldn't remember what it was called, do u want me to edit my comment?
@thinking bout ariana maybe but what I have heard but honestly haven't seen any progress was that Disney+ was going to follow up Andi mack mainly bcuz it can make it PG and not TV-Y7 meaning more mature more for 10+/12+ depends, but haven't heard any other news so idk it's been months since I heard the news soo 🤷
I really like how realistic Amber’s character development was, it wasn’t just linear, she went back and forth on being good and bad for a bit. Until she finally got the help she needed and ended up becoming an actual good person, it was very realistic👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
What bothered me about girl meets world that i didn't realize until years later was how they handled autism. It was insensitive and they made it so the characters acted like farkle was going to die because of autism. But Andi Mack handled things perfectly. It didn't make Cyrus a stereotypical gay, it perfectly portrayed panic attacks in Jonah, and represented dyscalcula and Andi's culture and made Buffy such a strong character. Andi Mack just made me so proud of disney for once. Although they still haven't completely learned their lessons. Andi Mack was so important for young people
@@baylordiamond8819 just because it was fine for you in middle school, it isn't fine for autistic people. It gives people the wrong idea for autism. It isn't a disease and farkle is still the same person if he is or isn't diagnosed as autistic. But teaching kids that you should feel upset about someone being diagnosed as autistic like it's some kind of death sentence, is immoral and not actually true when it comes to autism. If anything, it is following the perspective of Autism Speaks who thinks autistic people need to be fixed and are a burden to their families. So no, it isn't fine
@@elipeeli The way I see it is that message of the episode is not to make autism a death scentence and just because he doesn't get diagnosed doesn't mean they were saying thats a good thing it was just maintaining the status quo and probably not trying to make farkle the rain man. People do "struggle with autism" autism isn't exactly all good, all the time thing that should not be treated. Like the "Nero diverse" crowd makes it out to be. Also my mother cried in the car like I was dead for hours so it's just feels like a show trying to be realistic rather than actually trying to promote acting like its a tragety seince that's what any realistic 30 something without any knowlage about what autism is would do. Autism speaks litterally tries to cure autism and frame it as just some "tragic thing that happens to you" so even though some of the episode is problematic its nowhere near autism speaks "I almost killed my self from this monster called autism why can't my kid be normal" levels of bad.
I agree so much about the diversity part. GMW missed the chance to have great diversity and representation since it was set in NYC, but they made the cast 99% white. 🤦🏿 Andi Mack had beautiful diversity with their Chinese lead and family, biracial friend, and Jewish lgbtq friend. It was just so good to see the representation and diversity and I hope to see more shows like it in the future.
@NANA DOTWA huh... GMW had TWO POC characters. Wdym in a “white place” diversity can sprout in all different locations. GMW’s diversity sucked and they tried to display a love everyone message yet had nearly every character white and every character straight for that matter.
@@victoriamusa8691 agreed I live in that particular area well a little bit further and most of us are brown and black and Latinos and Muslims and as well Jews and Asians basically where I live it's more black and Latinos the only white that lives in my town is basically white Latinos lmao
@NANA DOTWA But even then they could’ve done all that in a different part of America, the fact that the show takes place in New York yet there are barely any poc on the show is the real problem because NYC is known for having a high black and brown population. Plus when the show was made there was really no excuse for it not to have a diverse cast, right now all you’re giving me is excuses not reasons. Finally even if the point of the show was to talk about issues like bullying, being on the spectrum, coming from a broken family, etc. the show was pretty hit or miss with these topics. It never truly delved into them and sometimes handled these topics insensitively like on the episode where Farkle was questioning whether he was on the spectrum and show’s response to his dilemma was pretty ableist and insensitive.
I thought Bowie was pretty good. It’s like the moment he comes face to face with his daughter, he’s on the parent bandwagon. He’s in the game and happy to be there
YOOO I'm just now watching this review and I agree. That is what I found refreshing about Bowie, I loved his enthusiasm towards having a daughter he was so accepting and excited about getting to know and spend time with Andi
I like the fact that andi isn't white passing what I mean she mixed most of the time they would pick some one who doesn't look asian if the character is mixed (I hope you understand what I'm trying to say)
@@audreytheausllyologist502 I personally do not really like Maya that much (cuz I feel she kinda feels sorry for herself a lil too much). I really liked Riley and Farkle’s relationship in the show, there were so many hints, foreshadow, moments, stares, random looks in class, mature conversations, and many parallels to Cory and Topanga that I was just amazed by how good their relationship could’ve been if the show continued
I cried so many times watching andi mack, so many episodes just hit me so hard.. but especially showing panic disorder, around the time that episode came out i was recovering from a hospital stay
The scenes where Cyrus came out to Buffy and Jonah really just hit hard for me. I know how hard an emotionally exhausting that can be to say and even though Cyrus isn’t real I still felt like a proud mama 🥺🥺🥺
The thing with Girl Meets World for me is it felt like it was inventing a school of psychology. I'll never forget watching that one episode where they show basically said that Maya didn't like a cute boy because he was cute, but because her best friend liked a cute boy and she felt a compulsive need to protect her best friend so she convinced herself that she liked the cute boy to get the cute boy to like her so that she could make sure he was safe for her best friend to date. Even eleven year old me watched that and said "....what?"
the psychoanalysis of maya hart is wild EDIT to clarify my tone, @gmw's writers because jesus christ ToT I used to like gmw when I was younger because they looked like they clarified a lot of social constructions and behaviors, but... evidently not (plus the fact that how could they when the majority of their cast was white?)
I was honestly surprised when Andi and Bex actually moved out of Ceci’s house and lived alone. Typically in tv shows, they would have the main character wanting to move, but not end up doing it cuz they’ll miss their old environment (and also for the budget for the tv show). But I’m glad for this show, they actually made Bex and Andi move out permanently
Andi Mack handled their relationships really well, like all of the endgame ships made sense. Buffy and Marty had great banter throughout the show, and I like how mature he was. He really just made her better while allowing her to keep her good traits. I wish he was in the show more often and was a part of their friend group. Cuz I feel like he would’ve given them some source of wisdom, he was the best character on the show in my opinion. And the fact that he was paired up with Buffy made him even better, I wish they explained what made her miss him during his time away Bex and Bowie’s relationship was great as well, I just like how much they tried to become better for Andi and each other. They were both very like able and just deserved each other. They’re the only adult relationship in a kids/teen show that I actually enjoyed watching. Cyrus and Tj made sense, I liked that Tj wasn’t the first person Cyrus liked. Cyrus first dated a a girl (Iris) who was basically Cyrus in Girl form (like Smackle is to Farkle in gmw), but Cyrus clearly ain’t like her. Then we find out he actually likes Jonah and it is pretty realistic for Cyrus to like him first. But Jonah wasn’t really the one for Cyrus, he had way too many issues let’s be honest and he was also straight so it would never happen. I liked that they made him move on from Jonah and get closer to Tj. Tj didn’t really start off being the one for Cyrus (but he had potential to be). And as more time went by and more time they spent together, Tj ended up being a great match for him! Andi and Jonah were a hot mess in the show, I don’t ship it at all. They don’t have anything in common and they don’t make each other better at all. And I automatically assumed the writers would go the annoying route and make them end up together anyway. But they didn’t, instead they made them say that they won’t be together right now, but sometime in the future🤷🏾♂️who knows. That is a very mature way for them to handle it, and even though I don’t ship, I liked the way they handled that. I’m also glad that she wasn’t like obsessing over him throughout the whole show, she ended up not having feelings for him after he went away. And I liked seeing how free she felt, I wish she ended up with Walker since he shares the same passion for art. I kinda hope that he ends up going to the Art school that she will be attending
I hated how they treated Walker on the show. Andi was so mean to him, when all he was, was nice to her. And just because she was kinda Jonah's girl, doesn't mean that she couldn't have guy friends who were just friends. She didn't want to hang out with the group at the art event because Buffy and Walker started liking each other and she was jealous for no reason at all. The worse part is, they never brought up Andi's feelings about the situation and just iced over it.
I think it was never brought up because Buffy and Walker didn't end up working out in the end. So in a sense from the way it played out in the show, Andi's feelings about it didn't matter in the end.
In my eyes, I think they had Buffy reject him because they wanted them to end so Marty had room to return. The whole Buffy dating Walker saga was a way to anticipate if this was going to split Buffy and Andi up. And they wanted to leave room for Marty So in order to do that they had to have Andi and Buffy resolve their issues and then get rid of Walker. It’s unfortunate but I think I understand
I feel like Girl meets girl was just trying to become something it wasn’t in season 3. They were trying to become serious and yes it’s good to have important moments, but like it was just too much for what the show was. However Andi Mack was serious since the beginning, so it worked!
Some shows succeed at becoming more serious in later seasons like season 3 of Wizards of Waverly Place. Girl Meets World just kept trying to force it and it seemed like the writers might’ve had a big ego and thought they made a masterpiece (when really they didn’t)
@@growingupwithdisney I agree I feel like it was really the writer fault for the reason why Girl Meets World wasn’t so good like it was supposed to be.
GMW really suffered from being in a sitcom format, so it had to force in laughs. It could've worked more if the show bothered to actually have slice of life moments for the characters. I feel like we learn almost nothing about Riley and her relationship to HER MOM TOPANGA WHO IS A MAIN CAST MEMBER. We know nothing of these characters except for their drama
@@Danbo22987 But WOWP did it so well even for a sitcom tho... You can add seriousness and laughs and make it work, but the plots in GMW S3 were absolutely ridiculous
Honestly the show was trying to hard to be "deep" when it just forced lessons down our throats. I feel like it would've been better on Abc or something
Yea and like a Latino/Hispanic but honestly TOH fills it up by having a Afro Latina lead I think or just a brown latina but she's colored that's the important thing for me Lol
I honestly forget how crazy the show’s premise truly is, could you imagine being in Andi’s position? It would take me a minute to know that the girl that I thought was my sister is actually my mother, idk how I would handle the situation. *side note: They’re also basically saying that Bex and Bowie did a lil sum sum as teens Bex got pregnant real young😳that’s real crazy. But thank goodness Bex and Bowie stepped up and are happily in Andi’s life now
I don’t have Disney+, so exactly how many episodes are missing? Plus they have no problem with editing certain movies from the original footage so I don’t see why they couldn’t modify the episodes too
@@strawberry1948 I’ve watched the entire series when it was on air, I just wanted to know how many episodes were removed bc I didn’t realize the grandpa was that prominent in the episodes
@@BRIXXANY1 Disney+ has only two episodes from the 12 epsiode first season. There are 12 episodes streaming from the 25 episode second season, and 17 episodes from the 20 in the third season.
I agree with your point about GMW lacking diversity. There’s a good amount of Disney shows that don’t really represent colored people that well, or include them at all.
And I see a lot of people point to That's So Raven or Proud Family and 1) Those shows are older and 2) It's not enough to just have the "black show", it's important to just have diversity just naturally be a part of every show.
@@Danbo22987 Thiiis! Obviously Raven and Proud family are freaking dope! But the other disney shows feel like "let's put in this random black kid and call it a day... perhaps we can make an asian cameo in season 3"
I think I prefer Tj’s character development over Amber’s slightly. Cuz his bad traits mostly were with words, while she actually did bad actions. It was Andi who Amber was being mean to the most, and Andi was the one giving her chances. While with Tj, it was Buffy who he was being the most mean to, but Cyrus gave him a chance, and ultimately changed Buffy’s perspective on Tj. I kinda like seeing that dynamic in tv shows more often, when it’s just that special someone that sees the good in you and helps others see it as well. Or at least I like it more than seeing someone you’re rude to giving you chance after chance, cuz that could get real toxic if it occurs in real life
I remember watching Cyrus first telling Buffy he was gay and being so excited! I also, as a discalculic myself, rlly felt for TJ. They were probably my fav characters simply bc I relate to them the most lol
What you said about this being the most mature Disney channel show since Lizzie Maguire makes a lot of sense. They were created by the same person, Terri Minsky.
i remember when the andi mack fandom was fighting like every other week over wether andi was a "good character or not", but looking back, i realised that andi was just like any other teenager/middle school kid. yeah she did some dumb things, but most of it was realistic for a teenager who was going through major life changes. that's why the characters of andi mack work so well, they make you annoyed or mad at them from time to time because you're SUPPOSED to get mad at them. with girl meets world, i felt like i was just screaming "what the fuck are you doing" at my screen 24/7. also: i loved how andi and jonah didn't end up together but still acknowledged their history with each other! it was a hot MESS, but their relationship was way better when they just stayed as friends.
I rewatched both GMW and Andi mack and andi mack is way better. GMW is very annoying especially riley. And they dialogue in GMW was really weird and also annoying.
15:50 not my amber’s character development video being name dropped 🤯 wow i didn’t expect it to be so impactful but yeah EMILY SKINNER PLAYED AMBER SO WELL edit: also i agree with most of your opinions and i think it’s funny that i made my a.m. compilations because disney plus doesn’t (and still doesn’t) have all the episodes.
Have you ever watched every witch way? It was a show on nickelodeon I used to really like and none of my friends have seen it. Have you noticed how most nickelodeon shows have that one guy that has a crush on the main character and the main character either acts oblivious towards it or if she is aware of it, she uses the guy for her own benefit since he's so loyal to her?
I know a lot of people don’t like Demma but I kind of felt like the whole point of the show was that a witch can date/love a human while keeping her powers no matter the obstacles in her way.
AnimeOtaku Girl Jax's development tho 👌. Emma annoyed me at times, she was kind of a Mary Sue, if she didn't have powers she would be pretty plain since she has no other traits that really define her.
The only thing Girl Meets World got right was with Riley and Farkle’s relationship (if they turned that into romantic, it would’ve been better). If those two were not planned to be together (had the show continued) then I’m glad the show got canceled
That's why i was so kind of ok with the love triangle at first, especially since Farkle was initially only a recurring character. They were obviously trying to throw Lucas off Riley since they just weren't becoming the new Cory and Topanga that people wanted them to be. Still, I doubt Riley would've ended up with Farkle because he has Autism™, and has to be with someone else who's 'weird' like him because DIsney can't have that kind of releationship for their teen star heroine.
I honestly 100% agree with you that andi mack is an amazing show and the most mature thing on Disney. Like, Cyrus was my favorite character as I could relate to him both, in personality and sexuality. Also, I'm so glad for you that you're getting more sponsors! Can't wait for your shop!!!
As someone with an anxiety disorder and panic attacks, seeing Jonah having a panic attack for the first time really hit me hard because I had never seen panic attacks and anxiety being represented in media before. It really hit close to home.
I feel like that one episode of Girl Meets World where Riley was being bullied and everyone was trying to figure out what was wrong with her then she had a breakdown was the only one the resembled real life but in some moments the laughing track was definitely not needed and it was annoying but personally that was one of the best episodes of the show
i really liked it when you added that you were allowed to criticize a show while liking it at the same time. just wish other ppl would understand that they can like something but also address its flaws too
If the Andi Mack storyline happened in GMW, after Bex revealed she was Andi's mom, Cory would walk in and say "ok class, so what have we learned today? Lucas ?" "That we should wait until marriage..."
Edit: it's called hunter street, thanks y'all! Ok, weird ass question but do any of y'all remember this show on either Nick or Disney about this family of foster kids solving mysteries and stuff? It was live action and had 5-10 kids as the siblings but the main character was the newest kid to join. I think his name was Max? I can't remember what it's called I just have vauge memories of it and it's really bugging me.
@NANA DOTWA yea :(( i wasnt sure if the third szn ever actually came out bc i remember hearing they passed the show off to teen nick but i never kept up with it after hearing that
I watched both of these shows, and let me tell ya, I would watch Andi Mack again. It's such a gem and I'm still shocked Disney actually made the show and centered the story on a Chinese American family and made Andi a quirky artsy kid.
Remember that one episode about Joan of Ark and the importance of religion? Ooh, I did not like how that whole thing went down! Basically, Riley and Lucas are religious people (probably some kind of christian) while Maya and Farkle aren't. And then the episode ends with Maya's successful conversion. Who thought that was a good idea? I'm not mad that there was a conflict about religion in a Disney show. It's actually the opposite: I think it was great to try and tackle on that subject. But the execution WAS AWFUL!!! The show basically said, "Hey kids! Not everyone practices Christianity, so if you know someone like that, be sure to downgrade their experiences and force them to convert. Spread the word of God!" A better way for the episode to have gone down would be as follows: the two parties argue a bit about what religion means to them. The Christians talk about why following God gives them a purpose in life and teaches them how to be morally conscious people. The Atheists talk about how you don't need to believe in a deity to be a decent human being and why they dont believe in God. Then the episode ends with the two parties being able to accept the fact that religion is a PERSONAL thing, and that they can still be friends even with their differences. You see how less problematic that was?
For anyone who wants to know, Stoney Westmoreland was caught trying to meet up with an underage, 13 year old boy in a hotel (which is a no no for Disney’s brand) so they did not include most of the episodes to avoid backlash from the public (just saying to inform not to put the 13 year old on the spot)
I’ve been looking for more videos on Andi Mack for ages! It looked like the show had been mostly forgotten after it’s finale, which would be such a shame. Had its flaws, and was a wonderful show all the same :)
When Andi Mack was premiering I didn’t like it because it was too confusing but I loved girl meets world. Now it’s the opposite cause I can understand Andi Mack more.
I've been stressed out for the last couple of days. Thank you for uploading this. Your videos are very fun to watch and you're a great person to listen to.
I enjoyed Andi Mack but it needed writing and it didn’t flow well at times. It just seemed clunky. Also ironically Amber turned out to be my fav character and Jonah turned out to be my least favorite and they started opposite for me. I also think Andi and Amber had some good chemistry and Jonah Buffy and Cyrus had great chemistry. Girl Meets World I have a whole idea of how I would have revamped Irene your hair and accessories are poppin!
Just watched these two shows and totally agree! I first watched GMW and thought people were actually underrating it, but then realized how fake deep they tried to make it. I think that “hot mess” is a perfect way to describe it. Seems like they figured it out with Andi Mack!
Andi Mack is still the best Disney show for me, it’s so raw on how its characters are, the representation was actually amazing, if only Stoney didn’t try to fiddle with young boys. Then I could actually watch some of the most important episodes.
I remember being in panic when I watched Andi Mack because my family doesn’t like that fact that I watch stuff that includes lgbtq+. Now I’m just gonna enjoy this few minutes before saying good bye and get thrown into the girl meets world show
I remember earlier this year when my little sister was watching Andi Mack and I watched with her, I didn't like how Andi kept on pushing her friends to tell her something that they didn't want to tell her. Like, girl, people are allowed to have secrets and they will tell you when they feel comfortable enough to tell you.
GMW problem was too much focus on love and not a lot if teachings about life. It was always about "Who does Riley love?" missing the whole point of what BMW was originally about, which was going through life, being a kid, teen and to adult. While GMW had it's moments, it was a very sad missed opportunity.
you summed up my thoughts perfectly (although i really can't tolerate GMW, i think because i was fresh out of college when it came out, so wayyy too old to have any nostalgia for it). i think andi mack loses some representation points though for not casting a SINGLE asian male character on the show. like seriously, andi's supposed to be 3/4 white? it would be weird enough if this was just an isolated problem with the show, but this is part of a much larger problem where for some reason we're more likely to see an asian woman with a white dude than we are with an asian man. off the top of my head, all the boys i've loved before and pen15 do the same thing. east asian protagonists with white dads. we'd probably have the full series on disney plus right now if it wasn't for this weird bias
All four characters have strong points and diversity.
Andi- Chinese descent and a result of teen pregnancy
Cyrus- is Jewish and LGBT AND has a boyfriend (in the series finale, of course; it should have gotten one more season)
Buffy- is of African descent, a huge feminist, and an Army brat (someone whose parent(s) is active in the military)
Jonah- suffers from panic attacks
There's also Amber, who is fully aware that being mean has no positives to it and also has a family who is struggling financially. There's also Bex and CeCe who don't get along early in the series. This is the best Disney live-action sitcom in a long time, and no one will EVER change my mind.
YEP THE DIVERSITY😌🤚
Cyrus also has social anxiety.
and TJ who has dyscalculia
@@dayoldpizza It's TJ, and he has dyscalculia (dyslexia with math).
@@zach_melik Oops I seen that once she said it (I'm in the middle of watching the video rn) and I couldn't remember what it was called, do u want me to edit my comment?
I will never forgive Disney Channel for not renewing Andi Mack for a fourth season!
@thinking bout ariana I think it was mostly because of that actor! Damn him honestly! He ruined such a good thing!!!!
Ugh same-
I WON’T FORGIVE THEM EVEN MORE IF THEY DON’T RENEW SYDNEY TO THE MAX FOR A SEASON 4!
@thinking bout ariana maybe but what I have heard but honestly haven't seen any progress was that Disney+ was going to follow up Andi mack mainly bcuz it can make it PG and not TV-Y7 meaning more mature more for 10+/12+ depends, but haven't heard any other news so idk it's been months since I heard the news soo 🤷
Yessss!!!
I think the show ended at a good time honestly
I really like how realistic Amber’s character development was, it wasn’t just linear, she went back and forth on being good and bad for a bit. Until she finally got the help she needed and ended up becoming an actual good person, it was very realistic👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
right
Reminds me of how I used to be. Even when I got the help I needed I still wasn’t always perfect.
Yes because making your characters gay makes up for the abhorrent writing/acting.
@@RealestPoser amber wasn’t gay?
@@poker8100 and? i didnt specifically say her lmao i said "characters" if you could read you would have noticed
What bothered me about girl meets world that i didn't realize until years later was how they handled autism. It was insensitive and they made it so the characters acted like farkle was going to die because of autism. But Andi Mack handled things perfectly. It didn't make Cyrus a stereotypical gay, it perfectly portrayed panic attacks in Jonah, and represented dyscalcula and Andi's culture and made Buffy such a strong character. Andi Mack just made me so proud of disney for once. Although they still haven't completely learned their lessons. Andi Mack was so important for young people
I watched it in middle school it was fine
@@baylordiamond8819 just because it was fine for you in middle school, it isn't fine for autistic people. It gives people the wrong idea for autism. It isn't a disease and farkle is still the same person if he is or isn't diagnosed as autistic. But teaching kids that you should feel upset about someone being diagnosed as autistic like it's some kind of death sentence, is immoral and not actually true when it comes to autism. If anything, it is following the perspective of Autism Speaks who thinks autistic people need to be fixed and are a burden to their families. So no, it isn't fine
@@elipeeli Sorry I didn't follow the show closely bud damn i didn't know that there was a shitty autism episode i have to check that out.
@@baylordiamond8819 i said it in the comment you commented on...
@@elipeeli The way I see it is that message of the episode is not to make autism a death scentence and just because he doesn't get diagnosed doesn't mean they were saying thats a good thing it was just maintaining the status quo and probably not trying to make farkle the rain man. People do "struggle with autism" autism isn't exactly all good, all the time thing that should not be treated. Like the "Nero diverse" crowd makes it out to be. Also my mother cried in the car like I was dead for hours so it's just feels like a show trying to be realistic rather than actually trying to promote acting like its a tragety seince that's what any realistic 30 something without any knowlage about what autism is would do. Autism speaks litterally tries to cure autism and frame it as just some "tragic thing that happens to you" so even though some of the episode is problematic its nowhere near autism speaks "I almost killed my self from this monster called autism why can't my kid be normal" levels of bad.
I agree so much about the diversity part. GMW missed the chance to have great diversity and representation since it was set in NYC, but they made the cast 99% white. 🤦🏿 Andi Mack had beautiful diversity with their Chinese lead and family, biracial friend, and Jewish lgbtq friend. It was just so good to see the representation and diversity and I hope to see more shows like it in the future.
GMW was so whitewashed, like how is there only one black character in NYC ???? Also, no hispanics either ???
@NANA DOTWA huh... GMW had TWO POC characters. Wdym in a “white place” diversity can sprout in all different locations. GMW’s diversity sucked and they tried to display a love everyone message yet had nearly every character white and every character straight for that matter.
@@victoriamusa8691 agreed I live in that particular area well a little bit further and most of us are brown and black and Latinos and Muslims and as well Jews and Asians basically where I live it's more black and Latinos the only white that lives in my town is basically white Latinos lmao
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@NANA DOTWA But even then they could’ve done all that in a different part of America, the fact that the show takes place in New York yet there are barely any poc on the show is the real problem because NYC is known for having a high black and brown population. Plus when the show was made there was really no excuse for it not to have a diverse cast, right now all you’re giving me is excuses not reasons. Finally even if the point of the show was to talk about issues like bullying, being on the spectrum, coming from a broken family, etc. the show was pretty hit or miss with these topics. It never truly delved into them and sometimes handled these topics insensitively like on the episode where Farkle was questioning whether he was on the spectrum and show’s response to his dilemma was pretty ableist and insensitive.
I thought Bowie was pretty good. It’s like the moment he comes face to face with his daughter, he’s on the parent bandwagon. He’s in the game and happy to be there
YOOO I'm just now watching this review and I agree. That is what I found refreshing about Bowie, I loved his enthusiasm towards having a daughter he was so accepting and excited about getting to know and spend time with Andi
I like the fact that andi isn't white passing what I mean she mixed most of the time they would pick some one who doesn't look asian if the character is mixed
(I hope you understand what I'm trying to say)
@ANDRINA BALDEO it's just first letter of my name and last name
@@candylunaburst those are my initials
@Daktox lmaoo i was looking at it too like ik that doesn't say all lives...lmaoooo
Oh wtf My initials meant alm was abbreviate all lives matter what the frick how they didn't freaking notice that
And I don't support alm bs
I agree 100%. Andi Mack was so much better than GMW ever was. Girl Meets World was actually really awful.
It’s true, the show had so much potential, but fell flat (especially in season 3)
@@growingupwithdisney Maya/Sabrina Carpenter was the only good part of GMW. I love Sabrina so she was the only semi-redeeming quality of GMW.
@@audreytheausllyologist502 I personally do not really like Maya that much (cuz I feel she kinda feels sorry for herself a lil too much). I really liked Riley and Farkle’s relationship in the show, there were so many hints, foreshadow, moments, stares, random looks in class, mature conversations, and many parallels to Cory and Topanga that I was just amazed by how good their relationship could’ve been if the show continued
Periodt yes
@@audreytheausllyologist502 Maya was the only good thing about that show all the others was either boring or annoying or cringe
I cried so many times watching andi mack, so many episodes just hit me so hard.. but especially showing panic disorder, around the time that episode came out i was recovering from a hospital stay
when that episode came out i was having panic attacks all the time. i felt better knowing i wasn't alone.
Yes! This show covered such important and relatable topics and, unliked most shows, it paced them well instead of dumping them.
The scenes where Cyrus came out to Buffy and Jonah really just hit hard for me. I know how hard an emotionally exhausting that can be to say and even though Cyrus isn’t real I still felt like a proud mama 🥺🥺🥺
The thing with Girl Meets World for me is it felt like it was inventing a school of psychology. I'll never forget watching that one episode where they show basically said that Maya didn't like a cute boy because he was cute, but because her best friend liked a cute boy and she felt a compulsive need to protect her best friend so she convinced herself that she liked the cute boy to get the cute boy to like her so that she could make sure he was safe for her best friend to date. Even eleven year old me watched that and said "....what?"
the psychoanalysis of maya hart is wild EDIT to clarify my tone, @gmw's writers because jesus christ ToT I used to like gmw when I was younger because they looked like they clarified a lot of social constructions and behaviors, but... evidently not (plus the fact that how could they when the majority of their cast was white?)
I was honestly surprised when Andi and Bex actually moved out of Ceci’s house and lived alone. Typically in tv shows, they would have the main character wanting to move, but not end up doing it cuz they’ll miss their old environment (and also for the budget for the tv show). But I’m glad for this show, they actually made Bex and Andi move out permanently
Andi Mack handled their relationships really well, like all of the endgame ships made sense.
Buffy and Marty had great banter throughout the show, and I like how mature he was. He really just made her better while allowing her to keep her good traits. I wish he was in the show more often and was a part of their friend group. Cuz I feel like he would’ve given them some source of wisdom, he was the best character on the show in my opinion. And the fact that he was paired up with Buffy made him even better, I wish they explained what made her miss him during his time away
Bex and Bowie’s relationship was great as well, I just like how much they tried to become better for Andi and each other. They were both very like able and just deserved each other. They’re the only adult relationship in a kids/teen show that I actually enjoyed watching.
Cyrus and Tj made sense, I liked that Tj wasn’t the first person Cyrus liked. Cyrus first dated a a girl (Iris) who was basically Cyrus in Girl form (like Smackle is to Farkle in gmw), but Cyrus clearly ain’t like her. Then we find out he actually likes Jonah and it is pretty realistic for Cyrus to like him first. But Jonah wasn’t really the one for Cyrus, he had way too many issues let’s be honest and he was also straight so it would never happen. I liked that they made him move on from Jonah and get closer to Tj. Tj didn’t really start off being the one for Cyrus (but he had potential to be). And as more time went by and more time they spent together, Tj ended up being a great match for him!
Andi and Jonah were a hot mess in the show, I don’t ship it at all. They don’t have anything in common and they don’t make each other better at all. And I automatically assumed the writers would go the annoying route and make them end up together anyway. But they didn’t, instead they made them say that they won’t be together right now, but sometime in the future🤷🏾♂️who knows. That is a very mature way for them to handle it, and even though I don’t ship, I liked the way they handled that. I’m also glad that she wasn’t like obsessing over him throughout the whole show, she ended up not having feelings for him after he went away. And I liked seeing how free she felt, I wish she ended up with Walker since he shares the same passion for art. I kinda hope that he ends up going to the Art school that she will be attending
Probably because the people at andi mack did their research on what it meant to have diverse representation while girl meets world did not
I hated how they treated Walker on the show. Andi was so mean to him, when all he was, was nice to her. And just because she was kinda Jonah's girl, doesn't mean that she couldn't have guy friends who were just friends.
She didn't want to hang out with the group at the art event because Buffy and Walker started liking each other and she was jealous for no reason at all. The worse part is, they never brought up Andi's feelings about the situation and just iced over it.
I think it was never brought up because Buffy and Walker didn't end up working out in the end. So in a sense from the way it played out in the show, Andi's feelings about it didn't matter in the end.
In my eyes, I think they had Buffy reject him because they wanted them to end so Marty had room to return. The whole Buffy dating Walker saga was a way to anticipate if this was going to split Buffy and Andi up. And they wanted to leave room for Marty
So in order to do that they had to have Andi and Buffy resolve their issues and then get rid of Walker. It’s unfortunate but I think I understand
I feel like Girl meets girl was just trying to become something it wasn’t in season 3. They were trying to become serious and yes it’s good to have important moments, but like it was just too much for what the show was. However Andi Mack was serious since the beginning, so it worked!
Some shows succeed at becoming more serious in later seasons like season 3 of Wizards of Waverly Place. Girl Meets World just kept trying to force it and it seemed like the writers might’ve had a big ego and thought they made a masterpiece (when really they didn’t)
@@growingupwithdisney I completely agree! The third season of Wizards of Waverly place has one of my favorite episodes, Wizards vs Werewolves!!!
@@growingupwithdisney I agree I feel like it was really the writer fault for the reason why Girl Meets World wasn’t so good like it was supposed to be.
GMW really suffered from being in a sitcom format, so it had to force in laughs. It could've worked more if the show bothered to actually have slice of life moments for the characters. I feel like we learn almost nothing about Riley and her relationship to HER MOM TOPANGA WHO IS A MAIN CAST MEMBER. We know nothing of these characters except for their drama
@@Danbo22987 But WOWP did it so well even for a sitcom tho... You can add seriousness and laughs and make it work, but the plots in GMW S3 were absolutely ridiculous
Low key GMW was just about a privileged white girl and as a little kid I really watched that believing all her struggles in life
Honestly the show was trying to hard to be "deep" when it just forced lessons down our throats. I feel like it would've been better on Abc or something
Musical Lover yh don’t really remember a single lesson tho only cared for the love triangle
I kinda wish they more black girl representation but andi mack is great
Yea and like a Latino/Hispanic but honestly TOH fills it up by having a Afro Latina lead I think or just a brown latina but she's colored that's the important thing for me Lol
I am still waiting for a black female lead set in middle school/high school show.
I agree-- also just black people in general but definitely black women
@@iqqyhassan2339 you mean like since Raven?
@@josuealopez3167 What is TOH?
I honestly forget how crazy the show’s premise truly is, could you imagine being in Andi’s position? It would take me a minute to know that the girl that I thought was my sister is actually my mother, idk how I would handle the situation.
*side note: They’re also basically saying that Bex and Bowie did a lil sum sum as teens Bex got pregnant real young😳that’s real crazy. But thank goodness Bex and Bowie stepped up and are happily in Andi’s life now
right
Yeah!!
Amber definitely had a redemption arc
It’s kinda makes me sad how many episodes that guy was in, he wasn’t important enough to the show to be in THAT many episodes, like come on now
tbh they really could have just edited him out all of the episodes.
I don’t have Disney+, so exactly how many episodes are missing? Plus they have no problem with editing certain movies from the original footage so I don’t see why they couldn’t modify the episodes too
@@BRIXXANY1 if you started watching from the beginning, around 2017 i think, you wouldnt be missing that much, but it depends
@@strawberry1948 I’ve watched the entire series when it was on air, I just wanted to know how many episodes were removed bc I didn’t realize the grandpa was that prominent in the episodes
@@BRIXXANY1 Disney+ has only two episodes from the 12 epsiode first season. There are 12 episodes streaming from the 25 episode second season, and 17 episodes from the 20 in the third season.
I agree with your point about GMW lacking diversity. There’s a good amount of Disney shows that don’t really represent colored people that well, or include them at all.
And I see a lot of people point to That's So Raven or Proud Family and 1) Those shows are older and 2) It's not enough to just have the "black show", it's important to just have diversity just naturally be a part of every show.
Exactly, also they were set in New York, the cast should’ve been the most diverse yet
@@Danbo22987 Thiiis! Obviously Raven and Proud family are freaking dope! But the other disney shows feel like "let's put in this random black kid and call it a day... perhaps we can make an asian cameo in season 3"
All the black characters in GMW were villians at first.
came for the andi mack discussion. stayed for the girl meets world slander
We really need to do a better job of protecting our child actors,
I think I prefer Tj’s character development over Amber’s slightly. Cuz his bad traits mostly were with words, while she actually did bad actions. It was Andi who Amber was being mean to the most, and Andi was the one giving her chances. While with Tj, it was Buffy who he was being the most mean to, but Cyrus gave him a chance, and ultimately changed Buffy’s perspective on Tj. I kinda like seeing that dynamic in tv shows more often, when it’s just that special someone that sees the good in you and helps others see it as well. Or at least I like it more than seeing someone you’re rude to giving you chance after chance, cuz that could get real toxic if it occurs in real life
Im just, surprised THAT disney did a complex topic with bex, a teenager pregnant :0
I actually forgot that Girl Meets World had a laugh track my goodness this new era of television/streaming laugh tracks do need to die!
i cant remember the last time i watched a show with a laugh track omg
Petition to remake the scenes with Andi's grandpa with a different actor and put them on Disney+
YES THATS BRILLIANT
They’re Disney, they can do that.
The only problem is the kids are older now
@@amanday3103 maybe they could work with some cgi and just edit in the new actor or the kids, like they did with Liv and Maddie
@@imdead9537 hold up what did they do with liv and maddie what happened ???
I remember watching Cyrus first telling Buffy he was gay and being so excited! I also, as a discalculic myself, rlly felt for TJ. They were probably my fav characters simply bc I relate to them the most lol
What you said about this being the most mature Disney channel show since Lizzie Maguire makes a lot of sense. They were created by the same person, Terri Minsky.
i remember when the andi mack fandom was fighting like every other week over wether andi was a "good character or not", but looking back, i realised that andi was just like any other teenager/middle school kid. yeah she did some dumb things, but most of it was realistic for a teenager who was going through major life changes. that's why the characters of andi mack work so well, they make you annoyed or mad at them from time to time because you're SUPPOSED to get mad at them. with girl meets world, i felt like i was just screaming "what the fuck are you doing" at my screen 24/7.
also: i loved how andi and jonah didn't end up together but still acknowledged their history with each other! it was a hot MESS, but their relationship was way better when they just stayed as friends.
I rewatched both GMW and Andi mack and andi mack is way better. GMW is very annoying especially riley. And they dialogue in GMW was really weird and also annoying.
15:50 not my amber’s character development video being name dropped 🤯 wow i didn’t expect it to be so impactful but yeah EMILY SKINNER PLAYED AMBER SO WELL
edit: also i agree with most of your opinions and i think it’s funny that i made my a.m. compilations because disney plus doesn’t (and still doesn’t) have all the episodes.
re: tj being the male version of amber, there's actually a pretty widespread headcanon that tj and amber are siblings!!!
Kipper siblings
Have you ever watched every witch way? It was a show on nickelodeon I used to really like and none of my friends have seen it. Have you noticed how most nickelodeon shows have that one guy that has a crush on the main character and the main character either acts oblivious towards it or if she is aware of it, she uses the guy for her own benefit since he's so loyal to her?
I remember that show!! Me and my cousins were so obsessed with it we would always get excited and talk about it whenever there a new episode lol
Beyonce Encarnacion I was team Jax! But I feel like it was annoying to watch Emma chasing after Daniel after she chose Jax over him.
I remember that show, I voted for Emma to get with Jax best decision ever!
I know a lot of people don’t like Demma but I kind of felt like the whole point of the show was that a witch can date/love a human while keeping her powers no matter the obstacles in her way.
AnimeOtaku Girl Jax's development tho 👌. Emma annoyed me at times, she was kind of a Mary Sue, if she didn't have powers she would be pretty plain since she has no other traits that really define her.
The only thing Girl Meets World got right was with Riley and Farkle’s relationship (if they turned that into romantic, it would’ve been better). If those two were not planned to be together (had the show continued) then I’m glad the show got canceled
Most likely in a parallel world they're together
That's why i was so kind of ok with the love triangle at first, especially since Farkle was initially only a recurring character. They were obviously trying to throw Lucas off Riley since they just weren't becoming the new Cory and Topanga that people wanted them to be. Still, I doubt Riley would've ended up with Farkle because he has Autism™, and has to be with someone else who's 'weird' like him because DIsney can't have that kind of releationship for their teen star heroine.
@@Danbo22987
Disney has cheap boring ships least Cory and Topanga was something better than Rucas was trying to copy
Andi Mack was lowkey realistic and down to earth, GMW was on some Ecstasy
I love Andi mack I was sad when it ended
I still really love the show I grew up watching it . Hopefully we can get a spin-off one day and all the episodes on Disney + 💗
I honestly 100% agree with you that andi mack is an amazing show and the most mature thing on Disney. Like, Cyrus was my favorite character as I could relate to him both, in personality and sexuality. Also, I'm so glad for you that you're getting more sponsors! Can't wait for your shop!!!
Thank you for promoting me. 🙏🏿
no problem! great working with you!
As someone with an anxiety disorder and panic attacks, seeing Jonah having a panic attack for the first time really hit me hard because I had never seen panic attacks and anxiety being represented in media before. It really hit close to home.
I feel like that one episode of Girl Meets World where Riley was being bullied and everyone was trying to figure out what was wrong with her then she had a breakdown was the only one the resembled real life but in some moments the laughing track was definitely not needed and it was annoying but personally that was one of the best episodes of the show
I'm not a huge fan of 16 and Pregnant and Teen Mom does MTV still promote the shows feel like they support teenage girls being pregnant
Yes
i really liked it when you added that you were allowed to criticize a show while liking it at the same time. just wish other ppl would understand that they can like something but also address its flaws too
If the Andi Mack storyline happened in GMW, after Bex revealed she was Andi's mom, Cory would walk in and say
"ok class, so what have we learned today? Lucas ?" "That we should wait until marriage..."
Edit: it's called hunter street, thanks y'all! Ok, weird ass question but do any of y'all remember this show on either Nick or Disney about this family of foster kids solving mysteries and stuff? It was live action and had 5-10 kids as the siblings but the main character was the newest kid to join. I think his name was Max? I can't remember what it's called I just have vauge memories of it and it's really bugging me.
yes!! that was the show 'hunter street.' it was on nick and had like 2 seasons i think ??
@@babycat0619 THANK YOU
@NANA DOTWA THANK YOU MAN
@NANA DOTWA yea :(( i wasnt sure if the third szn ever actually came out bc i remember hearing they passed the show off to teen nick but i never kept up with it after hearing that
HUNTER STREET WAS SO GOOOD :(
Cyrus is the king of wholesome friendship/relationships
i actually never realized that i didn’t hate any characters in and i mack😭
I HATE Jonah
I hate the dad in real life
I loved the diversity in the show. Plus, the gay representation is great to see 🏳️🌈
Andi Mack will forever have a place in my heart !! 🥺🤍
Same!
This isn't an order or a request, rather an inquiry: do you plan on talking about Stuck in the Middle?
I feel like people defend Girl Meets World because of "OG Disney".
To be fair, I'm pretty sure by the time GMW came out, OG Disney was already long gone... unless you're referring to its origins in BMW, of course.
I've been ecstatic waiting for this video all day like there was no tomorrow
Girl Meets World plus High School Musical: The Musical: The Series are what Andi Mack truly was😌☝🏾
I've been anticipating on this video since the livestream from yesterday 😭🙏🏾
I watched both of these shows, and let me tell ya, I would watch Andi Mack again. It's such a gem and I'm still shocked Disney actually made the show and centered the story on a Chinese American family and made Andi a quirky artsy kid.
I remember watching girl meets world and not liking it, it just felt so preachy and condescending
Remember that one episode about Joan of Ark and the importance of religion? Ooh, I did not like how that whole thing went down!
Basically, Riley and Lucas are religious people (probably some kind of christian) while Maya and Farkle aren't. And then the episode ends with Maya's successful conversion. Who thought that was a good idea?
I'm not mad that there was a conflict about religion in a Disney show. It's actually the opposite: I think it was great to try and tackle on that subject. But the execution WAS AWFUL!!! The show basically said, "Hey kids! Not everyone practices Christianity, so if you know someone like that, be sure to downgrade their experiences and force them to convert. Spread the word of God!"
A better way for the episode to have gone down would be as follows: the two parties argue a bit about what religion means to them. The Christians talk about why following God gives them a purpose in life and teaches them how to be morally conscious people. The Atheists talk about how you don't need to believe in a deity to be a decent human being and why they dont believe in God. Then the episode ends with the two parties being able to accept the fact that religion is a PERSONAL thing, and that they can still be friends even with their differences.
You see how less problematic that was?
For anyone who wants to know, Stoney Westmoreland was caught trying to meet up with an underage, 13 year old boy in a hotel (which is a no no for Disney’s brand) so they did not include most of the episodes to avoid backlash from the public (just saying to inform not to put the 13 year old on the spot)
Wow the BGL pieces are gorgeous!! The earrings are so cool
The only way GMW stayed a float was through the toxic shipping wars on tumblr lol
Yess the andi mack video 🤸🏾♀️im so happy
This show is phenomenal!!
I’ve been looking for more videos on Andi Mack for ages! It looked like the show had been mostly forgotten after it’s finale, which would be such a shame. Had its flaws, and was a wonderful show all the same :)
YESSS SEEING U POP UP IN MY NOTIFACATIONS JUST MADE MY DAY😫
When Andi Mack was premiering I didn’t like it because it was too confusing but I loved girl meets world. Now it’s the opposite cause I can understand Andi Mack more.
Sis Bowie is fine👀😂
I was too happy when I found out he the actress that played Manny from Degrassi got married lol
Girl I will never move past the fact that your hair looks amazing in every video always gorgeous
I've never watched either of these shows. I'm just here for Harriyanna's commentary 🤷🏾♀️
Same but I really wanted check out Andi Mack I don’t care for girl meets world at all I’ll stick to the original series
You should watch Andi Mack you might like it
Yes! I’ve been looking forward to this one!!! 🤗✨
I’ve been waiting for this but I’m in the process of moving😭 I’ll watch as soon as I can
Andi Mack does have a special place in my heart. I would love to see a talk of Gravity Falls. Another nostalgia bit for me. c:
I really wish GMW would’ve had new writers. Things would’ve been so different if they had different writers.
I've been stressed out for the last couple of days. Thank you for uploading this. Your videos are very fun to watch and you're a great person to listen to.
THANK YA SM FOR TALKIN ABT THIS I MISS ANDI MACK FR
OMG YOU LOOK SO CUTE IN THIS !!
Andi Mack is one of my very favorites, along with the classics
I enjoyed Andi Mack but it needed writing and it
didn’t flow well at times. It just seemed clunky. Also ironically Amber turned out to be my fav character and Jonah turned out to be my least favorite and they started opposite for me. I also think Andi and Amber had some good chemistry and Jonah Buffy and Cyrus had great chemistry. Girl Meets World I have a whole idea of how I would have revamped Irene your hair and accessories are poppin!
I always love your character talks harriyanna!
Andi Mack was my show!
Still is my favorite show 🙈🥺
17:31 her leaving andi alone on that ferris wheel: um...
I agree though, she deserved that redemption arc
Dang it! I'm in the car rn imma have to put this vid on hold 😭😭
Love the channel fam 🙌🏽❤
Harriyanna is her own first mate, also lovin' the fit
i miss andi mack so much it was genuinely really good
i love your outfit omfg!
Just watched these two shows and totally agree! I first watched GMW and thought people were actually underrating it, but then realized how fake deep they tried to make it. I think that “hot mess” is a perfect way to describe it. Seems like they figured it out with Andi Mack!
Andi Mack is still the best Disney show for me, it’s so raw on how its characters are, the representation was actually amazing, if only Stoney didn’t try to fiddle with young boys. Then I could actually watch some of the most important episodes.
I was waiting for this one
"I won't say that for the child's safety-"
I already have a clue of the crime.
I MISS ANDI MACK💔 never been so excited for mondays in my life (when the days switched to mondays)
I remember being in panic when I watched Andi Mack because my family doesn’t like that fact that I watch stuff that includes lgbtq+. Now I’m just gonna enjoy this few minutes before saying good bye and get thrown into the girl meets world show
I loved this show with all my heart
11:18 I think they should include a trigger warning before the episodes that he was featured in instead of just getting rid of them.
I loved buffy she was so strong and smart.
She is such a queen 👑.
Andi Mack gave what girl meets world thought it was giving
I remember earlier this year when my little sister was watching Andi Mack and I watched with her, I didn't like how Andi kept on pushing her friends to tell her something that they didn't want to tell her. Like, girl, people are allowed to have secrets and they will tell you when they feel comfortable enough to tell you.
GMW problem was too much focus on love and not a lot if teachings about life. It was always about "Who does Riley love?" missing the whole point of what BMW was originally about, which was going through life, being a kid, teen and to adult. While GMW had it's moments, it was a very sad missed opportunity.
I wanted Andi and amber to be come best friends
you summed up my thoughts perfectly (although i really can't tolerate GMW, i think because i was fresh out of college when it came out, so wayyy too old to have any nostalgia for it).
i think andi mack loses some representation points though for not casting a SINGLE asian male character on the show. like seriously, andi's supposed to be 3/4 white? it would be weird enough if this was just an isolated problem with the show, but this is part of a much larger problem where for some reason we're more likely to see an asian woman with a white dude than we are with an asian man. off the top of my head, all the boys i've loved before and pen15 do the same thing. east asian protagonists with white dads. we'd probably have the full series on disney plus right now if it wasn't for this weird bias
there was that boy in the new years episode
but yeah the shows really white.
the plot to andi mack is so real cuz my mom told me this was the case with one of my cousins. im surprised disney made something as real
OH HELL YEAH LETS DO THIS, we’re my Andi Mack stans at. AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAJAJKAKA
I was so suprised when they said that Bex was a teen mom in the first episode