Episode 17. Letter From My Jehovah’s Witness Mother And My Response (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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Jesus is not God - Repent from saying that.
God created all things - Ephesians 3:9
Master Worker was God’s only begotten Son through whom Jehovah performed his works of creation. Proverbs 8:22,30,31 Revelation 4:11
“The natural laws of the universe are so precise that we have no difficulty building spaceships to fly to the moon with precision of a fraction of a second. These laws must have been set by somebody” Wernher Von Brown
Jesus is not God - Philippians 2:5-11
God exalted him - to the glory of God the Father
Christ, who is the image of God 2 Corinthians 4:4 Jesus was a perfect man just as Adam was created perfect. Adam sinned and deserved to die as his penalty. Jesus Christ did not sin. He was still a perfect life when they killed him. - 1 Peter 2:22 He could have been resurrected as a perfect man, but because he did nothing to deserve death, Jesus sacrificed that perfect life and took all of Adams’ offspring. 1 Corinthians 15:12-28 The Son will also subject himself to the one who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone. Read Matthew 4:10 Revelation 20:9
Joh n 17:3 Jesus prayed to God. Psalm 65:2 and referred to his Father in heaven as the only true God. He prayed that the disciples be one just as they (He and God) are one. (Footnote at John 17:11 says or unity) John 17:21 Read the chapter. It’s the final prayer to his father before His arrest. Jesus also prayed to God for God to find another way. Luke 22:42
You like to quote John 10:30, read the context. Who was Jesus talking to? What did he mean in verses 33-36? Then again Jesus says in 10:38 “The Father is in union with me and I am in unity with the Father”?
Jesus explains John 14:9 in the next verse. He often uses the word “unity” then He tells his disciples he is going away. John 14:28 Jesus says “you should rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than me.”
Every time the words “I am” is not meaning God. It’s just part of the sentence.
That’s enough for now - Write back
Love you - Mom
I think its great that your mum writes to you. It means you are not totally shunned like so many who leave the JW faith. A relationship with your mum is so precious. You are blessed.
My dad was born in 1914, he died a faithful JW believing he would live to see the end. This year he would be 111 yrs old.. First lie that actually registered with me.
That's where you are wrong! Misunderstandings are NOT lies, they are merely speculations based on incomplete knowledge and as the knowledge increases then adjustments are made.
That is like saying scientists are all a bunch of liars because they have to correct their understanding as they learn more information! No one would make such a ridiculous assertion about scientists so why should JW's be any different? Hatred of truth, maybe, influenced by Satan?
Good message! I pray that your mother will get to know the real Jesus. Thanks also for sharing that cute image your your lovable dog!
People make worship hard when Jesus made it easy. He said above all things love one another and love him. We're in the last days and there's no time for people to argue over the word. It's loving the word Jesus that will save you or not. I'm an ex JW and my mom wanted to discuss our different beliefs which meant prove me wrong instead of hearing each other. As a witness I didn't know Jesus. I had a NDE and guess who I was going to? What a surprise. It was after that I knew I had to pull out they were wrong. Anytime a religion divides family it isn't of God. I could write a book on the cruelty of this religion (cult). They aren't wicked people but they are very indoctrinated to the point of fear if they question. They need prayers.
So going to war and killing each other would be wrong?? Catholics have been killing Catholics for years.. 99% of wars are all Catholics ..
It’s great seeing you again, but am sorry your family got so sick! I hope things are getting better now! About your mom’s letter. The thing I think that is good is that your mom seems to be doing biblical research hopefully! Even if she just copies scriptures, I bet she is increasingly getting into her bible😄🙏I can’t get my mom to go that far, so I think it’s good she’s actually TRYING to look into things. Once you wet your whistle, you just HAVE to go deeper and deeper! So, I would pray for that. 👍🙏This is encouraging that your mom is doing something more than words of what she heard or read. Hope it keeps progressing! If she gets into her bible more and more, the real Jesus Christ will show himself.
On jworg there is a new talk by brother… (GB helper) he talked about the Greatest Person, being Jehovah the Father for sacrificing his son. Not once does he mention Jesus’ name, but says the son or Christ, and says nothing about how Christ laid his life down, sacrificing himself. I think it all is intentional, to NOT credit him or worship him!
@@kdrazalotg-usa6345 No Jesus. All about the GB
Funny hoe they say Jesus is not God when thomas said my lord my God in john 20 20 the trinity is one God in three persons the jws have their own Bible and unity is actually translated union they deliberately changed I am to I have been they have changed many verses to make the Bible fit their doctrines dr Julius mantey has discredited the jw Bible along with dr bruce Metzger plus all leading Bible scholars dr walter martin exposes the jws in his book kingdom of the cults a must read for all ex jws
@@zigzagblack37Isaiah 8:10, 2Timothy 3:8-9.
I get letters from my lds mother that sound a lot like this. They believe so much that their cult is true and fear for our eternal salvation. I get it. I was all in until 2 years ago.
Intetesting that quote from Brown was included. He's saying the earth is flat, not a spinning ball. That verse is on his tombstone.
what a special mother , she risk her JW life for her son as they are told to not have contact and not to share religious teachings , hope that you are also an understanding son , it is more much more important to have love for each other and to put that family bond first
Well, not quite. They didn't let you associate with those who left because they said it was divine revelation from Jehovah given through Bethel (mother society) in NY. But now they say they got new divine revelation that you can talk to disfellowshipped family according to your own conscience. So it sounds like they think maybe God made a mistake the first time and corrected it. Shesh they make me crazy.
@@theravenleichan2905 agreed they take things from scripture , like the two witness rule , this clearly aids a certain sort of person , also the scripture not even to eat with the person , we all have different brains but you would think family ties could not be broken
Touching ! I had never thought that religious people would write to their children like that , with Bible verses and all . But now that I hear it I say : " of course they do that , it must be normal for them " .
it s actually great.
@@thethinker6257 😊
Well moms letter shows her mind is still good at 86, that’s great. She put a lot into that letter.
Thank you for sharing this. 🙏🏽
We never went to the moon. Impossible.
Jesus deity is not the life saving message. In my opinion, you are wasting valuable time. She needs the true life saving gospel. Currently, she believes in a wrong gospel and leaders who are cursed. Gal 1: 8,9
Aw your dog is so cute 🐶 🐾
Darling dog!❤❤
I don't ever remember them reading one of those scriptures about Wisdom being female at the Kingdumb Hall. Maybe they changed them? Or maybe they just never covered them. I don't know.
@cultytalk they are there in their bible. They just don’t address it.
Jesus has the spirit of Wisdom and Understanding, Counsel and Mightiness/power and knowledge. Isa 11 - The spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
The spirit of counsel and of mightiness,
The spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.
Jesus has the same attributes as Wisdom in Prov 8. with KNOWLEDGE AND FEAR
v12 - I, wisdom, dwell together with shrewdness;
I have found knowledge and thinking ability.
with the Fear of GOD.
v13 - The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad.
Jesus has the spirit of WISDOM and understanding and power same as Wisdom in Prov 8
v14. I possess good advice and practical WISDOM;
Understanding and power are mine.
Jesus also has the Spirit of COUNSEL, as he is the WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR. Isa 9:6. same as Prov 8:14, this Wisdom possess GOOD ADVICE.
ALL these attributes of Wisdom in Prov 8 are ALL the exact attributes of Jesus, in Isa 11, so this is for Jesus, the WISDOM OF GOD
Remember a CONCEPT does not have Wisdom, does not have FEAR , as fear requires FEELINGS, does not have KNOWLEDGE, as Knowledge requires MIND, a concept does not have UNDERSTANDING , as understanding requires MIND. And Wisdom as ONE CONCEPT does not have or contain other/different attributes such as FEAR, KNOWLEDGE, LOVE, UNDERSTANDING, POWER, and again another WISDOM.
@cultytalk Kingdumb Hall. I just got it. 😂
I am a JW. I'm a person who wants to know the truth and so I listen to everyone who has a different opinion. A truthseeker would not ignore anything. I have followed your rebuttal with interest. All was fine until I read
Proverbs 8:30 (Young's Literal Translation) 30 Then I am near Him, a workman, And I am a delight -- day by day. Rejoicing before Him at all times,
It says "a workman"! What happened?
Who cares - you’re in a cult.
Here is a profound truth. A very unique end time prophecy that has always been in every Christians bible which, can only be fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses and yet, few are the ones finding it:
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Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: “YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame.”
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[Name of person] is no longer one of JEHOVAH's Witnesses ---->> "excluding YOU by reason of MY NAME"
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What Jehovah said would happen at the time of the end, is really happening!
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Did you see Jehovah's promise to disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses?
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"He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part"!
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Do you want to know more truth?
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@@JedApama-g8q Remember that we are reading Hebrew poetry in this book. And wisdom is also personified in the effeminate. Portraying wisdom as beautiful and graceful. The book isn’t written to prove the creation of Jesus, but it is written to know wisdom.
Does that make sense?
Thank you for the comment. ❤️
@@isaiah30v8 Isaiah 66 is talking about the Jewish nation. Not Jehovah’s Witnesses.
@@zigzagblack37 I'm a JW and yes, that part makes sense
Older people generally have a "better" understanding of the bible. I was born in 1991, and I remember having more scriptures memorised. I remember the times before the Governing body were z-list celebrities, and when all the "old-light" books from kingdom hall libraries were burnt. These days, it's all about the GB telling people how now women can wear trousers, and men can have beards, but before it made God sad.
The whole religion is nonsense.
I no longer believe in God or the bible, so it doesn't matter to me anymore, but I had a better knowledge of it as a child than I do now. Ironically, Jehovahs witnesses are taught to be childlike and obedient.
They're contradictions make me nuts.
Att least you recieve letters from your mother that's good i recieve nothing but anyway' but i get the impression someone helped her with the letter'
If JW's believe Jesus whas just a perfect man or a created angel then they are in transgression Psalm 146:3
Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.Colossians 2:18
18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. And if they say Jesus is a god they are in heresy Exodus 23;13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. By the way ask a JW where in NT does Jesus say Jehova is his Father or "my Fathers name is Jehovah" where? nowhere!!! they get stucked if you ask them .
Following your arguments, I was surprised to find other translations that use the word "created".
Proverbs 8:22 (Common English Bible)
22 The Lord created me at the beginning of his way,
before his deeds long in the past.
Would the Lord create wisdom?
@@JedApama-g8q good question. The word could potentially mean created but in this context I doubt it. I think it could more accurately be “brought forth” or “possessed”
Because if God created wisdom then there was a time He did not have wisdom.
@@zigzagblack37 The Lord "brought me forth" rather than "created me"
That is so funny, Prov 8: 22 - 25, was the scripture that prompted me to leave the organization. Please tell your Mom to read Prov Ch 9: 1 write her back and ask her to read it. Then say Mom, same subject, what does it say. Then simply ask her to read any other bible of clarification the same verse. then say, Mom, since when did Jesus become a female?? ....ooops now I see you handled this well. What a sweet lady, she's been manipulated by the cult. I hope she wakes up soon.
How damn boring is all that JW rigmarole. Thank god I went out through the window and never went back
No windows should tell you something.
Honestly, does it even matter if God is Jesus, Jesus is the son? Would it change anything ? OR is it just a distraction? Like wether or not Jesus died on a stake or a cross? What does it matter?
Moreso, shouldn't the oneness be on the so called author of the Bible to have been more accurate?
Santa is real
Brother brother brother!!
Stop sharing with the world your intimate conversation woth your mother. Why would you do such a thing. Your mom wont always be around and you'll likely regret not keeping these conversations between just you two. Dont use your mother for content. Thats just sad brother. Make content responding to points bht dont mention your own mother.
Isnt there a scripture somewhere about honoring your mother?
I understand your point. But this is the sentiment of many JW’s. I am not roasting my mom but rather sharing something that may explain someone else can share with their JW family.
Sorry about your Dad, don't think you quite listened hard enough. If you had perfect recall, you were looking for an opt out, alright by me. Your mum is too good for you. Hope you find something better. Let me know if you do.
I can not believe that your mother does not realize the extreme danger she is in communicating with a dreadful son like you We can only hope that Her elders watch this video and put the pieces together for your mothers protection. The Elders; what a wonderful protection in situations such as this. Lets all pray that they get on this right away. Some of 16 and 17 year old elders are very Tec saviey; So I suppose there is still hope. The older elders more than likely would completely miss this one. JUST SAY'en ! ! ! They are SO dumb ! ! ! ! ! ! !
@@Gerald-jn4dn Do your elders know that you are watching apostate material?
There is no need to worry - this young man will be fine. (I say young because I am a Senior). He is not dreadful at all. I find that Jehovah Witnesses judge others too much, sometimes they judge people they don't even know.
So sad. The conversation the two of you are having is like a student and a teacher, not a mother and her son. The battle of words and convictions, not love . Hope both of you can get past that, 😓
Luke 11:11 Jesus defamed Yahweh.
@@Des7iny7 Explain please.
@ Which fathers among you would give your child a serpent, when asking for food?
Yahweh did.
Numbers 21:5-9
YT Yahweh The God Of Murder.
sorry but your mom is right and you re wrong. Your letter is extremely ambiguous, and mis interpreted.
@@thethinker6257 can you explain where I am wrong from the text?
You should listen to your mother she knows best! You being a son should know what a son is, you are NOT your own mother or father, duh.