Rob from HotTubExpert.com reviews a Jacuzzi model J335 hot tub. He discusses the frame, proprietary Jacuzzi components, and other various aspects to a Jacuzzi spa.
He's been in the industry a long time? He looks no older than me. Not the largest Jacuzzi fan, but I would make the argument that cardboard doesn't make the spa bad. He doesn't say why cardboard is bad? It's simply just to keep the foam from expanding beyond its spray area into the equipment area. He doesn't say why it is bad. Would it be better they used wood? Pressure treated wood to prevent foam expansion? Why would that be so much better? Proprietary parts are a stupid reason not to buy something. My car is full of them, it doesn't stop it from being a good product. Actually quite contrary. My proprietary parts in my vehicle make it work perfectly. If the Jacuzzi parts are widely available, who cares? They are not $700-$1000. He is just blowing smoke. I just googled Jacuzzi replacement circuit boards, and they top out at $600, with most being around $300-$400. Balboa, who is arguably the biggest and best player of circuit boards, have priced them the same. Finally... last point. You are 100% wrong on Clear Ray. Clear Ray I agree with you is a joke. But it's not ozone. It's UV-C. It's based off light exposure. UV-C IMO (again opinion) is worthless in hot tubs. Your review is a rant. Not a true review. It is an opinion based on no performance. Just you looking at a hot tub coming to conclusions based off nothing. The spa isn't even filled! Again, not a Jacuzzi fan, but I feel like you would get more traction on your channel if you actually shared some more constructive criticism versus ranting on a product you don't like.
The main issue I have with cardboard is it molds... Any area in a hot tub that has a open barrier (like the equipment bay) will hold humidity. Cardboard molds, we had a customer with restricted lung disease which leaves you more prone to issues with mold who had to throw away a 3 year old jacuzzi. The correct way is to use a sheet of plastic as the foam is expanding, then cut excess.
Hey look, it's the Unique Pools Spas and Billiards in Florida warehouse. No wonder folks get so frustrated purchasing spas. He's got financial interest in trashing every brand other than the ones they sell, and doesn't disclose this in his videos. Hey Rob, do you still work for Unique Pools and Spas or not so much?
I repaired jacuzzi brand for years. The parts are covered for 5 years, including ozone. The cardboard is found on a lot of tubs, just as a dam for the foam, after that it serves no purpose. I have yet to see any wood rot on these tubs with the full belly pan. Any water that would get in will run down the inside of the panel and out the bottom
They main issue I have with cardboard is it molds... Any area in a hot tub that has a open barrier (like the equipment bay) will hold humidity. Cardboard molds, we had a customer with restricted lung disease which leaves you more prone to issues with mold who had to throw away a 3 year old jacuzzi.
Good morning, thank you for the Jacuzzi J535 review. It opened my eyes to a product that I thought was at the top. I live in Italy. In your opinion, currently in 2021 which is the product with the best quality ratio on the market? Yours sincerely . Massimo Sigolotto
Master Spas and Artesian Spas.are likely the best made. Both are all Made In USA with non proprietary parts, have self supporting shells, full foam insulation,..etc. Jacuzzi manufacturers their tubs in Mexico which is the biggest drawback. *Maybe Trump can get the Jacuzzi to move their production back in the USA if he gets back in office. And If we survive this idiot communist Biden distrasturous economic polices) Other than moving the factory to Mexico, I think the review was a a bit harsh and seemed biased. Jacuzzi uses great quality Balboa circuit boards but yes, they are made according to Jacuzzis's specs. Proprietary parts isn't always bad. The prices aren't that much more than OEM Balboa or Gecko and are supposedely custom tailored to perform better. Jacuzzi's shells are strong and jets are very therapeutic. The UV bulb is simple to change out and the access panel is simple to take off. The LX jets are a Chinese brand that are made in Mexico but are pretty good quality. Jacuzzi tubs are decently put together. Hot Springs is another brand with proprietary parts and a factory in Mexico. Their hot tubs are also pretty good. I like their new Freshwater Salt System.. Their Highlife series spas are still made in the USA. Me personally, I like Jacuzzi's and Hot Springs' designs but will only buy a tub made in the USA as a matter of principle. *Nothing against Mexican workers.. in fact, I was told that many of the workers at the Hot Springs California factory actually live in Mexico and commute every day. I just want the factory to be in the United States. I currently own a Hot Springs Highlife Envoy and am very happy with it. Seems very well made. So far so good in 2 yrs. We ll see as the years go by. However, if I buy a new tub, I will seriously consider a Master Spas Legend Series it they are still made in USA.
@@jackdawson3276 Grazie per gli ottimi consigli. Lei è molto preparato! Complimenti! Buona giornata ed un affettuoso abbraccio, Ciao. Thanks for the great advice. She is very knowledgeable! Well done! Have a nice day and a warm hug, Hello
Could you recommend a small hot tub?. I've looking for a small 2-4 hot tub to fit on a kidney shaped patio. The hot tub industry it a bit overwhelming. My budget is 7 000 - 8,000 Canadian.
Thanks for the review but a couple points. The wood is pressure treated, pressure treated wood no longer has to be green. The cardboard doesn’t hold the foam in, it’s used to contain the expansion when spraying (it’s that our cut it). As to the panels I have yet to find a complaint they warp, while possible I guess, it doesn’t seem to be an issue. Finally, I agree Chinese products can be low in but they can also be high end like the iPhone I’m using. The buyer controls the specs. Proprietary parts are the biggest issue but they now seem readily available online.
Pressure treated with what? Looking at it, it appears to be simply dimensional lumber. I know it doesn't have to be 'green', but if not, what chemical is being used in this case?
Been to the factory, its not pressure treated. Simple lumber. Proprietary doesn't mean unavailable... Means the lack of competition leads to MUCHHHH higher pricing, and overall user cost.
Correct, they are not pressure treated, but the lumber on newer models is Borate dipped. Buy what you are happy with, but do your research. In this current Covid market, Jacuzzi is a good choice. They are the largest manufacturer which gives them a lot of buying power with vendors. Other manufacturers are struggling with shortages and may be substituting different components, quickly changing designs and who know what that will do for quality.
Both good hot tubs. Artesian aftermarket parts are expensive due to proprietary parts. Strongly suggest calling the dealers and researching a replacement part cost of say a heater.
Hot Tub Expert I can get a heater for a J300 series for 130 bucks online, the standard balboa M7 heater I got for my old master spa was 120. Their stuff isnt as expensive as you imply
My brand New J-475 just installent today is leaking from the 2 diverter valves pump 1 and 2, the air switch are all leaking and one whistling like crazy. I’m not impressed with Jacuzzi Quality and their QA/QC control. For a spa over 10 grants it’s really disappointing.
The Jacuzzi brand is now owned by Apollo Management per Wikipedia and is NOT affiliated with the Jacuzzi family who founded the original Jacuzzi company in 1915 and made their pump products in the USA. The original Jacuzzi family owned company has not been in business since 1979 when they sold the business to corporate conglomerate Walter Kidde, Inc. The Jacuzzi name is a trademark now recently owned by Apollo. Apollo also owns Sundance Spas, Dimension One Spas and Thermospas all of which are assembled in the same manufacturing plant in Mexico. Jacuzzi brand hot tubs are now assembled with LX Chinese pumps made in China by Guangdong LX Pump Company. Per online written Jacuzzi manufacturer's warranty, the wood frame and jets are warranted for only 2 years from the original date of purchase, not 5 years as only verbally promised by most Jacuzzi retailers. Warranty is only as good as what's written in warranty documentation from the manufacturer. Again, don't be fooled, Jacuzzi is now just a trademarked name owned by another company (Apollo) who assembles hot tubs in Mexico with the Jacuzzi logo, 2 year warranty and uses Chinese pumps.
Been a Jacuzzi/ Sundance salesman for the last 4 years. This man here is very i'll informed. He's using generalizations about other models to describe a Jacuzzi model hot tubs. At one point he says the products come from China and that is a completely false statement. They are made just over the border in mexico and assembled in Chino California. He does not tell you the shells on Jacuzzi are thick enough and strong enough to support the tub full of water without the wood frame and that the average lifespan of the Jacuzzi models is 20 years. Please I stress when you want to look at Jacuzzi models go to a qualified dealer and speak to a salesman, most times the salesman for Jacuzzi spas are trained extensively on the construction and operation of their models. This video appears to be almost a complete bash by someone who does not know the full details of how Jacuzzi manufactures their models.
I would strongly suggest researching other brands. Also, my comments were the pump is made in China, which it is. The LX pump is the preferred pump from LPI (comes out of the same factory in China). Jacuzzi is not a terribly made hot tub, however, it has problems. The shell is done through the same manufacturing process as $3,500 online hot tubs. MOST spas are self supporting shells. Doesn't make sense why Jacuzzis are around 30% more. I've been to several hot tub manufacturing plants, including Jacuzzi. Have you?
@@hottubexpert1137 Again , tell us what is wrong with LX pumps They are one of the biggest manufactures of spa pumps and motors fro spa pumps Even many US spa pump brands using LX motors in their pumps From your videos here and from all your answer it is very clear that you donno much about spa manufacturing
1. The skirt is imported from China in lengths from 6 meter long Assembling is IN MEXICO 2 . The screw in jets without ball bearings that you call better is a CHINESE INVENTION ........... 3 . Using cardboard to shield components from foam is more environmental friendly then plastic sheet 4 . What is wrong with using Chinese pumps ?
Thanks man I appreciate your honesty I was looking for help I have an FL1 Code which online says it's a "air pocket code" I removed the panel and to the right of the control box has a leak .....the control box you said is expensive to replace Do you know why the black box would leak??
Depends on where its coming from. You could submit photos at @t FL1 code is a flow error, make sure water line is proper, if you just drained and refilled it could be due to an air lock, dirty filters, or blocked suctions. If those don't fix the issues you may have a bad circulation pump, or bad first pump.
My brand New J-475 just installent today is leaking from the 2 diverter valves pump 1 and 2, the air switch are all leaking and one whistling like crazy. I’m not impressed with Jacuzzi Quality and their QA/QC control. For a spa over 10 grants it’s really disappointing.
I changed my UV bulb in less that 5 min. Only 4 small screws.
He's been in the industry a long time? He looks no older than me. Not the largest Jacuzzi fan, but I would make the argument that cardboard doesn't make the spa bad. He doesn't say why cardboard is bad? It's simply just to keep the foam from expanding beyond its spray area into the equipment area. He doesn't say why it is bad. Would it be better they used wood? Pressure treated wood to prevent foam expansion? Why would that be so much better?
Proprietary parts are a stupid reason not to buy something. My car is full of them, it doesn't stop it from being a good product. Actually quite contrary. My proprietary parts in my vehicle make it work perfectly. If the Jacuzzi parts are widely available, who cares? They are not $700-$1000. He is just blowing smoke. I just googled Jacuzzi replacement circuit boards, and they top out at $600, with most being around $300-$400. Balboa, who is arguably the biggest and best player of circuit boards, have priced them the same.
Finally... last point. You are 100% wrong on Clear Ray. Clear Ray I agree with you is a joke. But it's not ozone. It's UV-C. It's based off light exposure. UV-C IMO (again opinion) is worthless in hot tubs.
Your review is a rant. Not a true review. It is an opinion based on no performance. Just you looking at a hot tub coming to conclusions based off nothing. The spa isn't even filled!
Again, not a Jacuzzi fan, but I feel like you would get more traction on your channel if you actually shared some more constructive criticism versus ranting on a product you don't like.
The main issue I have with cardboard is it molds... Any area in a hot tub that has a open barrier (like the equipment bay) will hold humidity. Cardboard molds, we had a customer with restricted lung disease which leaves you more prone to issues with mold who had to throw away a 3 year old jacuzzi. The correct way is to use a sheet of plastic as the foam is expanding, then cut excess.
Hey look, it's the Unique Pools Spas and Billiards in Florida warehouse. No wonder folks get so frustrated purchasing spas. He's got financial interest in trashing every brand other than the ones they sell, and doesn't disclose this in his videos. Hey Rob, do you still work for Unique Pools and Spas or not so much?
I repaired jacuzzi brand for years. The parts are covered for 5 years, including ozone. The cardboard is found on a lot of tubs, just as a dam for the foam, after that it serves no purpose. I have yet to see any wood rot on these tubs with the full belly pan. Any water that would get in will run down the inside of the panel and out the bottom
They main issue I have with cardboard is it molds... Any area in a hot tub that has a open barrier (like the equipment bay) will hold humidity. Cardboard molds, we had a customer with restricted lung disease which leaves you more prone to issues with mold who had to throw away a 3 year old jacuzzi.
@@hottubexpert1137 Not all cardboard molds
@@hottubexpert1137 you truly are BS lol
Good morning, thank you for the Jacuzzi J535 review.
It opened my eyes to a product that I thought was at the top.
I live in Italy. In your opinion, currently in 2021 which is the product with the best quality ratio on the market?
Yours sincerely . Massimo Sigolotto
Master Spas and Artesian Spas.are likely the best made. Both are all Made In USA with non proprietary parts, have self supporting shells, full foam insulation,..etc. Jacuzzi manufacturers their tubs in Mexico which is the biggest drawback. *Maybe Trump can get the Jacuzzi to move their production back in the USA if he gets back in office. And If we survive this idiot communist Biden distrasturous economic polices) Other than moving the factory to Mexico, I think the review was a a bit harsh and seemed biased. Jacuzzi uses great quality Balboa circuit boards but yes, they are made according to Jacuzzis's specs. Proprietary parts isn't always bad. The prices aren't that much more than OEM Balboa or Gecko and are supposedely custom tailored to perform better. Jacuzzi's shells are strong and jets are very therapeutic. The UV bulb is simple to change out and the access panel is simple to take off. The LX jets are a Chinese brand that are made in Mexico but are pretty good quality. Jacuzzi tubs are decently put together. Hot Springs is another brand with proprietary parts and a factory in Mexico. Their hot tubs are also pretty good. I like their new Freshwater Salt System.. Their Highlife series spas are still made in the USA. Me personally, I like Jacuzzi's and Hot Springs' designs but will only buy a tub made in the USA as a matter of principle. *Nothing against Mexican workers.. in fact, I was told that many of the workers at the Hot Springs California factory actually live in Mexico and commute every day. I just want the factory to be in the United States. I currently own a Hot Springs Highlife Envoy and am very happy with it. Seems very well made. So far so good in 2 yrs. We ll see as the years go by. However, if I buy a new tub, I will seriously consider a Master Spas Legend Series it they are still made in USA.
@@jackdawson3276 Grazie per gli ottimi consigli. Lei è molto preparato! Complimenti! Buona giornata ed un affettuoso abbraccio, Ciao. Thanks for the great advice. She is very knowledgeable! Well done! Have a nice day and a warm hug, Hello
Lol what brand of hot tubs do you sell hot tub expert?
What do you think of bullfrog or hydropool? Wish you did more viedoes thanks
Wish
Wish you would do More Reviews
Could you recommend a small hot tub?. I've looking for a small 2-4 hot tub to fit on a kidney shaped patio. The hot tub industry it a bit overwhelming. My budget is 7 000 - 8,000 Canadian.
who posts a video in portrait mode??
Thanks for the review but a couple points. The wood is pressure treated, pressure treated wood no longer has to be green. The cardboard doesn’t hold the foam in, it’s used to contain the expansion when spraying (it’s that our cut it). As to the panels I have yet to find a complaint they warp, while possible I guess, it doesn’t seem to be an issue. Finally, I agree Chinese products can be low in but they can also be high end like the iPhone I’m using. The buyer controls the specs. Proprietary parts are the biggest issue but they now seem readily available online.
Pressure treated with what? Looking at it, it appears to be simply dimensional lumber. I know it doesn't have to be 'green', but if not, what chemical is being used in this case?
Been to the factory, its not pressure treated. Simple lumber. Proprietary doesn't mean unavailable... Means the lack of competition leads to MUCHHHH higher pricing, and overall user cost.
Correct, they are not pressure treated, but the lumber on newer models is Borate dipped. Buy what you are happy with, but do your research. In this current Covid market, Jacuzzi is a good choice. They are the largest manufacturer which gives them a lot of buying power with vendors. Other manufacturers are struggling with shortages and may be substituting different components, quickly changing designs and who know what that will do for quality.
Film in landscape
Can you review dynasty?
What's your views on Bullfrog and Artesian spas? One better than the other and why? Currently looking for two person spa/hot-tub. Thanks.
Both good hot tubs. Artesian aftermarket parts are expensive due to proprietary parts. Strongly suggest calling the dealers and researching a replacement part cost of say a heater.
Hot Tub Expert I can get a heater for a J300 series for 130 bucks online, the standard balboa M7 heater I got for my old master spa was 120. Their stuff isnt as expensive as you imply
What a useless review. I get the feeling he is not authorized to sell Jacuzzi and so he slams them. No good info here.
Actually, just finding out they use non=pressure treaded wood was worth the review.
My brand New J-475 just installent today is leaking from the 2 diverter valves pump 1 and 2, the air switch are all leaking and one whistling like crazy. I’m not impressed with Jacuzzi Quality and their QA/QC control. For a spa over 10 grants it’s really disappointing.
The Jacuzzi brand is now owned by Apollo Management per Wikipedia and is NOT affiliated with the Jacuzzi family who founded the original Jacuzzi company in 1915 and made their pump products in the USA. The original Jacuzzi family owned company has not been in business since 1979 when they sold the business to corporate conglomerate Walter Kidde, Inc. The Jacuzzi name is a trademark now recently owned by Apollo. Apollo also owns Sundance Spas, Dimension One Spas and Thermospas all of which are assembled in the same manufacturing plant in Mexico.
Jacuzzi brand hot tubs are now assembled with LX Chinese pumps made in China by Guangdong LX Pump Company. Per online written Jacuzzi manufacturer's warranty, the wood frame and jets are warranted for only 2 years from the original date of purchase, not 5 years as only verbally promised by most Jacuzzi retailers. Warranty is only as good as what's written in warranty documentation from the manufacturer.
Again, don't be fooled, Jacuzzi is now just a trademarked name owned by another company (Apollo) who assembles hot tubs in Mexico with the Jacuzzi logo, 2 year warranty and uses Chinese pumps.
They are not owned by Apollo anymore
Shot vertically:/
Get your facts straight. So many errors its hard to count. Clearray is not ozone.
Been a Jacuzzi/ Sundance salesman for the last 4 years. This man here is very i'll informed. He's using generalizations about other models to describe a Jacuzzi model hot tubs. At one point he says the products come from China and that is a completely false statement. They are made just over the border in mexico and assembled in Chino California. He does not tell you the shells on Jacuzzi are thick enough and strong enough to support the tub full of water without the wood frame and that the average lifespan of the Jacuzzi models is 20 years. Please I stress when you want to look at Jacuzzi models go to a qualified dealer and speak to a salesman, most times the salesman for Jacuzzi spas are trained extensively on the construction and operation of their models. This video appears to be almost a complete bash by someone who does not know the full details of how Jacuzzi manufactures their models.
I would strongly suggest researching other brands. Also, my comments were the pump is made in China, which it is. The LX pump is the preferred pump from LPI (comes out of the same factory in China). Jacuzzi is not a terribly made hot tub, however, it has problems. The shell is done through the same manufacturing process as $3,500 online hot tubs. MOST spas are self supporting shells. Doesn't make sense why Jacuzzis are around 30% more. I've been to several hot tub manufacturing plants, including Jacuzzi. Have you?
@@hottubexpert1137 Again , tell us what is wrong with LX pumps
They are one of the biggest manufactures of spa pumps and motors fro spa pumps
Even many US spa pump brands using LX motors in their pumps
From your videos here and from all your answer it is very clear that you donno much about spa manufacturing
@@heckdi LOL, It sounds like you don't.
1. The skirt is imported from China in lengths from 6 meter long
Assembling is IN MEXICO
2 . The screw in jets without ball bearings that you call better is a CHINESE INVENTION ...........
3 . Using cardboard to shield components from foam is more environmental friendly then plastic sheet
4 . What is wrong with using Chinese pumps ?
Thanks man
I appreciate your honesty
I was looking for help
I have an FL1 Code which online says it's a "air pocket code"
I removed the panel and to the right of the control box has a leak .....the control box you said is expensive to replace
Do you know why the black box would leak??
Depends on where its coming from. You could submit photos at @t FL1 code is a flow error, make sure water line is proper, if you just drained and refilled it could be due to an air lock, dirty filters, or blocked suctions. If those don't fix the issues you may have a bad circulation pump, or bad first pump.
This guy does not know what he is talking about. Obviously connected to another manufacturer with significant less worldwide sales
So many lies and misrepresentations in this. Not Chinese parts
Yes, some Chinese parts, but assembled in Mexico.
This guy is a joke.
My brand New J-475 just installent today is leaking from the 2 diverter valves pump 1 and 2, the air switch are all leaking and one whistling like crazy. I’m not impressed with Jacuzzi Quality and their QA/QC control. For a spa over 10 grants it’s really disappointing.