They might not be tactical but thumbhole stocks just look cool to me. They modernize the silhouette of older rifles and, topped with an optic, give off an irresistible DMR vibe.
I had a thumb hole stocked Arsenal, and it was painful to shoot for me. The thumbhole slammed into my web of my hand. Of course, I was shooting a lot at a time, so there’s that.
I'm irrationally in love with the VSS for many reasons but the stock is number one. 9x39 integrally suppressed? Sick. Kalashnikov inspired platform? Getting harder. That stock? I came 5 minutes ago. The SVAL is arguably the better gun but it doesn't have that stock.
If I had to guess it's more the baggage they carry than their actual look. I imagine most just dislike them because of how their forced onto regulated guns, and therefore view non thumbhole configurations as being better
For me, it was more about how the government is dictating which product I am allowed to have and how it should look. For me, in my early 20's back in the 90's and seeing the dumbhole stock, it was a lesson in how our government works.
My father, being Hungarian, saw the 1st SA85M back in late 1985 at Turner's Sporting Goods store in Culver City, California for $339.99 and he just had to have it. When the 90's came around, we found more of them but in the post ban dumbhole configuration sadly. They were about $219.99 but still included a decent sling and a 5 round magazine but you can see in the box that it was meant to include 3 30 rd magazines, a cleaning kit and sling. Trying to find a pre-ban SA85m, they hit almost $2000! Since the expiration of the AWB,I have converted those thumbholes back to preban glory thanks to AK63F parts kits. Great looking rifles no matter what. Great video.
Both my parents were Hungarian. They came to USA after the 1956 revolution. Not sure how my dad got out but my mom had help escaping across the border into Austria. She was only 16 years old.
@VegasCyclingFreak You know you have Hungarian citizenship, right? You just need to apply. It allows you to stay in the EU as long as you want and live and work also.
I got a mak90 with a ban-era black polymer stock that looks similar to a dragunov stock (not quite exact, but pretty close) with an inch thick rubber extension on it and it's COMFY. I was gonna change it after I bought it but opted not to since it's more comfortable than anything else I could put on it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it
I’ve got one of these that I put an original stock and grip on. The fit and finish on these are so much nicer than what the Romanians and Chinese offered. It also feels lighter than my SAR1 and shoots better as well.
At 4:21 you say "...they couldn't have a thumbhole stock..." but I think you meant to say "...they couldn't have a pistol grip stock..." The advent of the thumbhole stocks was a ploy to get around the ban on pistol grip stocks.
Your description of the legal situation is wrong, Kalashnikovs were banned by name in 1994, but what happened is that in 1998 ATF changed the legal definition of something importable under 925(d)(3) to ban semi-auto rifles that used large capacity military magazines. Ergo the SA2000. Not sure that KBI actually did stop importing the SA-85 until then, because ATF didn't consider sporterized guns to be "copies or duplicates" of banned guns and certainly other companies imported them with double-stack magazines up until 1998. And thumbhole stocks weren't the only way to do it, the PSG-1 and SG550 Sniper for example were legal to import up until 1998.
I LIKE that stock! It looks funky, but i like it. Expecting US politicians to pass any laws on firearms is like asking a kindergarten glue eater to write a guide to a balanced diet. Neither one knows anything at all about the subject matter, and will just go with the feels.
I got an NHM-90 in that era and the thumb hole stock was so bad I spent a week with files, then sandpaper and formed it to my hand grip in the evenings. Stained all the wood arctic blue
Ian!! We all love you over here at SARCO, thank you for ordering a few items, I myself am a lover of French rifles, if you ever need any parts or anything just give us a call! And ask for the french rifle guy lol.
I owned one when they first came out here during the early AWB years. I traded it off, and it's one of my great regrets of those years. Yes, the stock was a bit goofy, but it was a good rifle.
I've always wondered why some semi auto AK variants have safety stops that prevent the safety from entering a traditional semi auto setting. Essentially turning the full auto notch to a semi auto notch when others just don't have a stop for full auto and allow the safety to fully rotate.
The 1994 law didn't ban receivers that take standard 30rd mags. It was a 1997 e.o. by President Billy Clinton that banned standard mag receivers. CAI and others had to modify imports to accept standard AK mags. Later Madi and SAR-1/2s are a good example.
The SA-85S has got to be a very interesting firearm with an odd-looking stock that helps it stand out from other Hungarian AK variants. Thanks for showing it to us Ian.
Usually, I give the guys on this kind of venue a pass when they cock up the political process involved in something. Most seem to have a ginormous blindspot when it comes to politics. However, a review of the basic workings of the United States Federal Government seems to be in order here. Before any legislation can be enacted, it must first pass the legislative branch of the government. This branch is composed of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Both of these entities are composed of legislators elected by bote in each individual state. Then the potential law is passed on to the Executive branch of the government where it can either be signed or vetoed by the president. With the exception of some very specific circumstances, the president DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENACT LAWS WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT. I learned this more than 50 years ago in primary school government class. The system hasn't changed since then. Although the level of stupidity in the average citizen seems to have increased. "Bush senior" was the final step in a long line of steps leading to the ban mentioned in the video. Don't believe me? Go ahead, Google it. Details matter.
Problem is your wrong, congress can create regulatory agency's which then can act under the direction of the president within the range of power allotted by congress. And this is a good thing, otherwise quite literally nothing would ever get done, if it was not for agencys like the EPA stepping in and passing blanket rulings than we might still have leaded gasoline, which was a real problem, some states would ban it but congress was unable to get it done FOR OVER 20 YEARS, because hold out states. A regulatory agency passing a ruling under presidential direction is not "Enacting laws without consulting congress" because the regulatory agency's range of power is directly given by congress, explicitly for that purpose. Like you said, details matter
Unfortunately, if I use "É" in the title it doesn't show up when people search for "FEG", and that's what almost everyone in the English-speak world would use.
@@ForgottenWeapons that seems like a pretty big oversight on google's part, considering that in normal google search it literally doesn't give a fuck so long as you use similar characters in english, it knows exactly what you meant with all the right spelling (because it asks you "did you mean ******?") every time I ask it anything in another language that uses some form of Latin alphabet. They could easily impart that same functionality onto youtube's search algorithm but they haven't. I bet you that you could even use normal google search to search youtube for it that way and it would work properly! The fact that youtube does not do it natively is a shame.
Had one of these. It was beautiful, but I wanted a Scope on it, and I wanted a JP Performance Muzzle Brake on it. It was threaded and then dead pinned. It was smooth but loud. The existing after market Scope mount was a project of trepidation, as there was some rule about any additional hole in the receivers. It got done. Still was a beautiful example, and shot nicely.
I like thumbhole stocks, they're aesthetically pleasing and that's a moral imperative
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In a recent video (I believe it was on the 'Classic firearms' channel) Ian mentioned that he was approached by officials from an unnamed country if he wanted to make some new videos using their stuff. I am beginning to suspect that the unnamed country was my home, Hungary. This is the 4th, 5th or I don't know video of Hungarian guns in the past week or two. So glad to see some of my people's history on the channel!
Well he is also trying to promote the book as well, Ian has said whenever he goes somewhere he films a slew of videos and releases them periodically. He learned this from the bergman series where we had like 9 days of the same family of gun,
Ah yes. The dark times. Pistols over 50 ounces. Any scary-looking semi-auto shotgun. That nefarious "pistol grip which protrudes conspicuously beneath the receiver". Something something "shoulder thing that goes up". Et cetera. That decade sucked for gun owners. If you missed that show, be thankful. It's a veritable paradise today by comparison, as much as we like to complain (myself included).
Ian - my 1st "AK" was a Clinton ban-era Norinco Mak-90. Unfortunately, the thumb hole stock on it looked awful (unlike this Hungarian one) and was terrible to shoot with.
Interesting that people don't talk more about the AWB being derived from George HW Bush' import ban. And also interesting that the cosmetics ban banned the SA-85, because it was just an akm with a bit of wood, and forced them to make fundamental changes to the rifle for it to adhere to the cosmetics ban. Maybe the anime girl wraps that fit the sa-85 couldn't fit the sa-2000?
The thumbhole stock, because it magically makes the gun.....safer.....or something. The ATFs arbirtary decisions often leave one pondering just who is in charge. Someone actually must have come to the conclusion that making these weapons less attractive would reduce people's desire to own them. I say this, because I cannot fathom how anyone would think such a change would reduce potential lethality.
their op-rod doesn't have a little bendy part in the middle. I'm not an AK guy by any stretch, but I've field stripped one or two in my life and always thought that was a neat feature. Why don't these ones have that?
This has to be either you, or a person with this channel playing ABI Arena Breakout infinite as many of my friends who love tarkov and other Milsims never heard of this gun and claimed it was made up for the game lol
Norinco reconfigured the stock with a thumb hole, renamed it a MAK-90 when the first assault weapons ban went into effect. They shipped in a couple of million before the ATF figured out what Norinco did and added it to the ban. I enjoy mine.
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I like this gun but it's very nice 😎👌
They might not be tactical but thumbhole stocks just look cool to me. They modernize the silhouette of older rifles and, topped with an optic, give off an irresistible DMR vibe.
This specific stock is actually VERY comfortable to shoulder, despite the grip being very thick
I want Ian to review an ADAR 2-15 from Tarkov lol
Looks like hunting rifle lol
I had a thumb hole stocked Arsenal, and it was painful to shoot for me. The thumbhole slammed into my web of my hand. Of course, I was shooting a lot at a time, so there’s that.
I'm irrationally in love with the VSS for many reasons but the stock is number one. 9x39 integrally suppressed? Sick. Kalashnikov inspired platform? Getting harder. That stock? I came 5 minutes ago.
The SVAL is arguably the better gun but it doesn't have that stock.
Aaah Wood and steel like its supposed to be
No idea why the thumbhole stock is considered ugly. Looks great IMO.
I love it
favourite
was thinking the same thing
If I had to guess it's more the baggage they carry than their actual look. I imagine most just dislike them because of how their forced onto regulated guns, and therefore view non thumbhole configurations as being better
For me, it was more about how the government is dictating which product I am allowed to have and how it should look. For me, in my early 20's back in the 90's and seeing the dumbhole stock, it was a lesson in how our government works.
My father, being Hungarian, saw the 1st SA85M back in late 1985 at Turner's Sporting Goods store in Culver City, California for $339.99 and he just had to have it.
When the 90's came around, we found more of them but in the post ban dumbhole configuration sadly. They were about $219.99 but still included a decent sling and a 5 round magazine but you can see in the box that it was meant to include 3 30 rd magazines, a cleaning kit and sling. Trying to find a pre-ban SA85m, they hit almost $2000!
Since the expiration of the AWB,I have converted those thumbholes back to preban glory thanks to AK63F parts kits.
Great looking rifles no matter what. Great video.
I live right next to culver city!
aha
$120 off for the ban, wow! And all you had to do was to switch out to pre ban parts and it's all there
Both my parents were Hungarian. They came to USA after the 1956 revolution. Not sure how my dad got out but my mom had help escaping across the border into Austria. She was only 16 years old.
@VegasCyclingFreak You know you have Hungarian citizenship, right? You just need to apply. It allows you to stay in the EU as long as you want and live and work also.
Something about that wooden stock/grip setup is so aesthetically pleasing.
The funny thing is that when these started coming in folks HATED it! I was selling during the Brady ban, things were ridiculous
Very Norinco
A little bit of embellishment on the stock/handguards, like factory-punk or soviet-punk would look rad as hell.
Like Cosmo Kramer once said "it's the wood that makes it good!"
And illegal in Kommiefornia.. **sigh**
Mah little Hungarian heart is melting for all the Hungarian AK variants on show lately :D
Its not a bad looking riffle just hope something similar doesn't happen again.... 😂😂😂 🤙
If people back then thought those stocks were hideous, Id love to show them one of the CA compliant AK/AR stocks.
Since you are doing alot of AKs atm how about a little video about the AK50 ? xD
I got a mak90 with a ban-era black polymer stock that looks similar to a dragunov stock (not quite exact, but pretty close) with an inch thick rubber extension on it and it's COMFY. I was gonna change it after I bought it but opted not to since it's more comfortable than anything else I could put on it.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
I’ve got one of these that I put an original stock and grip on. The fit and finish on these are so much nicer than what the Romanians and Chinese offered. It also feels lighter than my SAR1 and shoots better as well.
Dear Gun Jesus… Mr. Brandon Herrera’s AK50 reaction video please and a formal history and mechanics episode on the AK50 too.
I Second this
Ian doing a dissasembly video on the AK 50 would probably benefit both him and Brandon, its a cool idea
is Brandon getting phone calls from a certain mid European country ( backdoor of dourse?
Elbonian ceremonial sidearm?
At 4:21 you say "...they couldn't have a thumbhole stock..." but I think you meant to say "...they couldn't have a pistol grip stock..." The advent of the thumbhole stocks was a ploy to get around the ban on pistol grip stocks.
Honestly it's pretty sweet looking I wouldn't mind it something different looking on what is a very well known rifle
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Your description of the legal situation is wrong, Kalashnikovs were banned by name in 1994, but what happened is that in 1998 ATF changed the legal definition of something importable under 925(d)(3) to ban semi-auto rifles that used large capacity military magazines. Ergo the SA2000. Not sure that KBI actually did stop importing the SA-85 until then, because ATF didn't consider sporterized guns to be "copies or duplicates" of banned guns and certainly other companies imported them with double-stack magazines up until 1998. And thumbhole stocks weren't the only way to do it, the PSG-1 and SG550 Sniper for example were legal to import up until 1998.
Still have one of these, now with Magpul furniture. Surprisingly accurate little rifle.
Alright this AK has some of that drip.
the Ban is now "Retro Cool".. lol
I'm old... 😂
That bayonet plug restriction seems strange. Here's a gun, it shoots bullets, but you can't put a knife into it, someone might get hurt?
I LIKE that stock! It looks funky, but i like it.
Expecting US politicians to pass any laws on firearms is like asking a kindergarten glue eater to write a guide to a balanced diet. Neither one knows anything at all about the subject matter, and will just go with the feels.
Great, ban style thumb hole stocks are gonna make a comeback due to hipsters and Gen Z seeing Ian’s videos…
Some crazy firearms regulations in the US, but at least you can own military style (or any gun), in your country.
My first AK was a thumbhole from Arsenal, then I got one of these, blast from the past!
I definitely don't miss those goofy stocks
They are niche and highly sought after these days. People like to rebuild the ban era models for nostalgia
@@Anon-greyman back in the day we used to throw them out and put proper ones on them from parts kits. Funny how things change.
@@alexholdren4009 the underfolder is my personal favorite
I have one of these. Anybody know if they are rare or anything lol. Cause I was gonna take the wood stock off.
I got an NHM-90 in that era and the thumb hole stock was so bad I spent a week with files, then sandpaper and formed it to my hand grip in the evenings. Stained all the wood arctic blue
Ian!! We all love you over here at SARCO, thank you for ordering a few items, I myself am a lover of French rifles, if you ever need any parts or anything just give us a call! And ask for the french rifle guy lol.
KBI also brought in most of the FEG hipower variants during that same time period. Some of which they sold under the Charles Daly brand.
Back in the 1990s, we absolutely loathed the thumbhole stocks. Now... they aren't so bad.
Ducking the pistol grip ban...so THAT'S where the thumbholes came in. THEY were later banned as a marker of 'paramilitary' guns.
I owned one when they first came out here during the early AWB years. I traded it off, and it's one of my great regrets of those years. Yes, the stock was a bit goofy, but it was a good rifle.
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I have a 10000 serial number kbi its a really well made rifle
I've always wondered why some semi auto AK variants have safety stops that prevent the safety from entering a traditional semi auto setting. Essentially turning the full auto notch to a semi auto notch when others just don't have a stop for full auto and allow the safety to fully rotate.
The 1994 law didn't ban receivers that take standard 30rd mags. It was a 1997 e.o. by President Billy Clinton that banned standard mag receivers. CAI and others had to modify imports to accept standard AK mags. Later Madi and SAR-1/2s are a good example.
1998.
We converted a Romanian 99.1 to accept standard double stack magazines. Worked out great.
The SA-85S has got to be a very interesting firearm with an odd-looking stock that helps it stand out from other Hungarian AK variants. Thanks for showing it to us Ian.
My first firearm bought in ‘95 and still sitting right here in the safe
Hungarian sees hungarian ak, Hungarian happy
Look at how they massacred my boy
Usually, I give the guys on this kind of venue a pass when they cock up the political process involved in something. Most seem to have a ginormous blindspot when it comes to politics. However, a review of the basic workings of the United States Federal Government seems to be in order here. Before any legislation can be enacted, it must first pass the legislative branch of the government. This branch is composed of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Both of these entities are composed of legislators elected by bote in each individual state. Then the potential law is passed on to the Executive branch of the government where it can either be signed or vetoed by the president. With the exception of some very specific circumstances, the president DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENACT LAWS WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT. I learned this more than 50 years ago in primary school government class. The system hasn't changed since then. Although the level of stupidity in the average citizen seems to have increased. "Bush senior" was the final step in a long line of steps leading to the ban mentioned in the video. Don't believe me? Go ahead, Google it. Details matter.
Today's brain teaser :
Find the word " sporting " , ANYWHERE in our Constitution or it's numerous Amendments .
Have fun .
Problem is your wrong, congress can create regulatory agency's which then can act under the direction of the president within the range of power allotted by congress.
And this is a good thing, otherwise quite literally nothing would ever get done, if it was not for agencys like the EPA stepping in and passing blanket rulings than we might still have leaded gasoline, which was a real problem, some states would ban it but congress was unable to get it done FOR OVER 20 YEARS, because hold out states.
A regulatory agency passing a ruling under presidential direction is not "Enacting laws without consulting congress" because the regulatory agency's range of power is directly given by congress, explicitly for that purpose.
Like you said, details matter
I thought Mak 90 was the only ones who did the thumb hole stock. Learn something new everyday.
Everyone got in on it. I've had thumbhole AKs from Bulgaria, China, Egypt, Hungary, Russia & Romania.
@@donwyoming1936Thanks Old Bill for that.
I have one of these with the classical furniture. 82' production, still factory packed when i bought it.
It’s so good to see a ton of FÉG (Fegyver és Gépgyár) guns here and never ever seeing one here in Hungary. (Please edit the title to FÉG)
Unfortunately, if I use "É" in the title it doesn't show up when people search for "FEG", and that's what almost everyone in the English-speak world would use.
@@ForgottenWeapons Yeah, real shame.
Bojler eladó.
@@ForgottenWeapons that seems like a pretty big oversight on google's part, considering that in normal google search it literally doesn't give a fuck so long as you use similar characters in english, it knows exactly what you meant with all the right spelling (because it asks you "did you mean ******?") every time I ask it anything in another language that uses some form of Latin alphabet. They could easily impart that same functionality onto youtube's search algorithm but they haven't. I bet you that you could even use normal google search to search youtube for it that way and it would work properly! The fact that youtube does not do it natively is a shame.
"Young whipper snappers" lmfao
My buddy has one of those. The Monte Carlo stock is on a shelf in his garage covered in dust.
I'm not sure what it was supposed to accomplish.
Had one of these. It was beautiful, but I wanted a Scope on it, and I wanted a JP Performance Muzzle Brake on it. It was threaded and then dead pinned.
It was smooth but loud. The existing after market Scope mount was a project of trepidation, as there was some rule about any additional hole in the receivers. It got done. Still was a beautiful example, and shot nicely.
stocks like this look so good on the ak's.
I'm currently in the process of converting my mak90 got a galil style stock and just and pistol grip for now
I used to be able to pick those up for $275 brand new in Butler Georgia for many years. They must’ve bought 50 of those things.
looks kinda like a ChiCom NHM-90... how retro..
I like thumbhole stocks, they're aesthetically pleasing and that's a moral imperative
In a recent video (I believe it was on the 'Classic firearms' channel) Ian mentioned that he was approached by officials from an unnamed country if he wanted to make some new videos using their stuff. I am beginning to suspect that the unnamed country was my home, Hungary. This is the 4th, 5th or I don't know video of Hungarian guns in the past week or two.
So glad to see some of my people's history on the channel!
Well he is also trying to promote the book as well, Ian has said whenever he goes somewhere he films a slew of videos and releases them periodically. He learned this from the bergman series where we had like 9 days of the same family of gun,
I bought one of these in the 90's. Terrible trigger slap and about twice the group size of my Norinco MAK90. The wood was beautiful though.
I get the impression looking at AK disasembly close-ups that an AK and a Last Ditch AK would be indistinguishable from each other.
Ah yes. The dark times.
Pistols over 50 ounces. Any scary-looking semi-auto shotgun. That nefarious "pistol grip which protrudes conspicuously beneath the receiver". Something something "shoulder thing that goes up". Et cetera.
That decade sucked for gun owners. If you missed that show, be thankful. It's a veritable paradise today by comparison, as much as we like to complain (myself included).
Thanks Republican politicians! The good guys right?!
Hope to see SA2000 m video!
Can't wait to check my serial number when i recieve the book!
Ian - my 1st "AK" was a Clinton ban-era Norinco Mak-90. Unfortunately, the thumb hole stock on it looked awful (unlike this Hungarian one) and was terrible to shoot with.
thumbhole stocks like that are going to become cool. nostalgia and retro vibes become valuable
Interesting that people don't talk more about the AWB being derived from George HW Bush' import ban. And also interesting that the cosmetics ban banned the SA-85, because it was just an akm with a bit of wood, and forced them to make fundamental changes to the rifle for it to adhere to the cosmetics ban. Maybe the anime girl wraps that fit the sa-85 couldn't fit the sa-2000?
The thumbhole stock, because it magically makes the gun.....safer.....or something. The ATFs arbirtary decisions often leave one pondering just who is in charge. Someone actually must have come to the conclusion that making these weapons less attractive would reduce people's desire to own them. I say this, because I cannot fathom how anyone would think such a change would reduce potential lethality.
That stock style always reminds me of the original (1968) version of “Planet of the Apes”…
So, slight error, but the F in the AK-63F stands for Fa tus, or wooden stock. The under folder was the AK-63D for deszant or paratrooper.
As hideous as you think that Hungarian stock may be, it has much more style and elegance than the thumbhole chunk of lumber on my Norinco MAK-90.
I could see somebody today making new mags for the 2000s with a short single stack leading to a double stack mag
The Yugos swear on their rifles, the fact is (was) that the Germans (East Germans and the Soviet Union had the best)!
A long story
their op-rod doesn't have a little bendy part in the middle. I'm not an AK guy by any stretch, but I've field stripped one or two in my life and always thought that was a neat feature. Why don't these ones have that?
Man your not old. If you're old I'm old. Wait. Damn. We're old. Ok continue.
This is a gun that everyone use at Arena Breakout
Thank you for this information. I have a Kassnar FEG SA-85 m underfolder with bayonet. No box unfortunately. I will have to find that book.
Ikr why but that gun looks BEAUTIFUL
My only question about Hungarian small arms, is does the ammo have Paprika in it? ^-^
Thumbhole stocks are almost cool looking. I feel like they just need a little more work and they'd look alright.
This is how I had to buy an AK during the late 90’s only mine was Chinese Norinco.
I actually like that style of stock for AKs for the looks.
Our federal gun restrictions are such a senseless hodgepodge of random regulations with no logic involved.
I actually really like the stock and grip on this.
The *SA-85S* is the reason why UFOs dare not hover near Hungary.
This has to be either you, or a person with this channel playing ABI Arena Breakout infinite as many of my friends who love tarkov and other Milsims never heard of this gun and claimed it was made up for the game lol
My FEG Hi Power was imported by KBI. I wonder if it was at the same time.
It's not a military rifle!
Serial and country =as less as possible!
No markings at all in a military situation
Ian I’ve watched your videos for awhile did u ever say what your favorite all time firearm is?
Oh hey, I have one of those!
Wooden thumb hole stocks on AK rifles make them so much safer for society in general lol
Ian, you are not old enough to use the phrase you young whippersnappers
This sayeth the boomer
Holy shit thats one unique rifle
🇨🇿❤️🇺🇲
Didn't Ahnold use this to liberate Valverde and save his daughter?
As a left handed norinco MAK 90 this is a much nicer ban stock
omg, what is that? AK, but without pistol grip for some weird law complience?
Beautiful plumage, I mean wood stock.
Excuse me, "I'm dating myself"?
Man ... that's a sweet Hungarian boomstick
I really love wood stocks but this one looks to strange sadly...
Norinco reconfigured the stock with a thumb hole, renamed it a MAK-90 when the first assault weapons ban went into effect. They shipped in a couple of million before the ATF figured out what Norinco did and added it to the ban. I enjoy mine.
Do I spot an M4 Spectre on the wall behind you?
I actually like the way the stock looks.
This is literally one of the guns from Last of Us Part 2.